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    Suzi Q with Barbegazi 27.5x4.5

    I thought I would post this up as I had trouble finding this info when I was researching fatbikes.

    I bought my first fat bike 2 Weeks ago and I have to say it is a blast. I decided I wanted all carbon to keep it somewhat lighter, the 27.5 wheel size was intriguing me and I didn't really want a super wide Q factor and rear end as I would like to run it as a 29+ bike in the summer when trail-a-biking the kids. Pedaling comfort and sportyish feel were somewhat of a priority. I bought the Suzi Q as soon as I saw it. It is a awesome and fun.

    The Maxis Minion FBFs came on it and I have to say they are a great rolling tire. I was curious if I could squeeze a little bigger tire in the Suzi Q. A little more width would be good for float in the snow we have here in CT now but I also wanted to take advantage of the 27.5 wheel size and get a larger wheel diameter.

    I could not find any info on the Barbegazi fitting on the Suzi Q and published specs by RM indicated it might not. I figured I would give it a shot and I was happy to find out it fits easily. There is at least 10mm in all directions including chain clearance in the big cog.

    Below are some fit pictures. I will get some better pictures as soon as the blizzard snow and 50mph winds die down here.

    Some other size references that might interest folks. These are all on a Mulefut 65sl 27.5" wheel and at 15 PSI set up tubeless.

    Stock Minion FBF 27.5 x 3.8
    Casing: 92mm
    Tread to Tread: 95mm
    Overall Diameter: 750mm

    Bontrager Barbegazi 27.5x4.5
    Casing: 107mm
    Tread to Tread: 110mm
    Overall Diameter: 776mm

    I will try and give a ride report if I can get out tomorrow.

    Some pictures to try and show clearance.
    Suzi Q with Barbegazi 27.5x4.5-img_0568.jpgSuzi Q with Barbegazi 27.5x4.5-img_0574.jpgSuzi Q with Barbegazi 27.5x4.5-img_0573.jpgSuzi Q with Barbegazi 27.5x4.5-img_0569.jpgSuzi Q with Barbegazi 27.5x4.5-img_0572.jpg

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    thanks for the useful info and good pics

    those are some tall tires at 29.5" and 30.5"

    hope the nor'easter calms down and you can get outside

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    Those are the Barbegazis on your bike? Looks like they fit fine.
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    Yes. The pictures show the Barbegazi on the Carbon Framed Suzi Q.

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    Thanks for the pics and the testing. I knew the front would fit but i wasn't sure about the back. I have been thrilled with my Suze Q so far and this just put it over the top. Those will be perfect tires for the snow!

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    very interesting, thanks OP!
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    Will those fit on my -30 Alum. frame?

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    tg-

    I only have access to my carbon model but RM lists the same limitations on tire size for both Alum. and Carbon models. My guess is it would fit but can't try it for you.

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    Cool!
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    Very cool. Thanks for posting. I decided to go with the Blizzard -50 for the sake of better winter performance, but if I'd seen this, I might have made a different choice. Good on you for trying it out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tg View Post
    Will those fit on my -30 Alum. frame?
    I work for a RM dealer and when the Suzi-Q came out a memo came as well. Basically there is a bit less seat stay clearance on the aluminum frames so they explicitly said that 29+ does not fit on anything except the carbon versions of the bike. This *probably* means that it won't fit on alloy sadly.

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    any updates on the tire fitment?

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    Anyone get the chance to try a Gnarwhal in a Suzi Q?

    Reports seem to be all over the place as to whether it's bigger than the Barbegazi or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoCo View Post
    Anyone get the chance to try a Gnarwhal in a Suzi Q?

    Reports seem to be all over the place as to whether it's bigger than the Barbegazi or not...
    I have no idea if it will fit or not, but everything I've read is that they use the same casing but the Gnarwhal has bigger knobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoCo View Post
    Anyone get the chance to try a Gnarwhal in a Suzi Q?

    Reports seem to be all over the place as to whether it's bigger than the Barbegazi or not...
    The fatbikes canada guy did and it wont fit the back.
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    I'm looking at a Suzi Q too, thanks for sharing this info! Did you get a sense of the weight difference between the aluminium frame and the carbon one? The -50 looked like a possibility for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by giantone View Post
    I work for a RM dealer and when the Suzi-Q came out a memo came as well. Basically there is a bit less seat stay clearance on the aluminum frames so they explicitly said that 29+ does not fit on anything except the carbon versions of the bike. This *probably* means that it won't fit on alloy sadly.

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    If anyone knows of a shop selling a left over or anyone selling a used 2017 XL suzi Q carbon or aluminum let me know.

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    I have a 2017 size carbon Medium I will be posting for sale shortly. if anyone is interested PM me.

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    Oh man. I just pit a deposit down on the aluminum.

    Pm'd anyway

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    XL guy- this guy might have what you need: isaac@neffcycleservice.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by uwprunner View Post
    XL guy- this guy might have what you need: isaac@neffcycleservice.com
    I will try getting in touch with him. Appreciate it.

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    I measured my barb on my 80mm wheels on my farley 9.6. Its 4.25.... not sure if it stretches as my bikes only a month old but i know they seem to clear the bluto fresh then develop a tire rub.
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    Have they stretched at all?? Looked tight to the chain stays.

    Just looking for an update thanks!!

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    Anyone with a Suzi Q comment on what its like to ride? What conditions it works/doesnt work?

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    Does anyone know of a shop with a size large Suzi Q 70 in stock? I�m trying to find deals. But I can�t seem to find a shop with one in stock and to order one, no one is going below msrp.

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    I know of a shop that has a Large -90 from 2017, the cool red one. You could get it for a great deal. I bought it until I realized I thought it was a Medium, so I had to order one instead. But the price I got on the -90 was great. Not much more than a 2018 -70 would have been, but with XTR, carbon everything, killer bike. PM me if you want their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curtlo-dork View Post
    I know of a shop that has a Large -90 from 2017, the cool red one. You could get it for a great deal. I bought it until I realized I thought it was a Medium, so I had to order one instead. But the price I got on the -90 was great. Not much more than a 2018 -70 would have been, but with XTR, carbon everything, killer bike. PM me if you want their name.
    May be too much for me. Even with a discount. Trying to stay under $2.5k if possible. Or even lower. A local shop said all of the 2017 models RM has in stock is going for 25% off?? But unfortunately, no 70 available.

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    Suzi Q with Barbegazi 27.5x4.5

    Quote Originally Posted by DevinciSean View Post
    Anyone with a Suzi Q comment on what its like to ride? What conditions it works/doesnt work?
    I have to say. After a few weeks of riding my farley 9.6... i hate the barbs. If your after float on fairly flat groomed singletrack that fly. Great tire. If you want to ride boot packed single track with hills and such your going to want to fbf and fbr or wait for the new 3.8x27.5 gnarwhals to be available in jan.

    I have so far spun out on every hill my 26x3.8 gnarwhals didnt on. Ive washed out on several corners.

    I feel the huge contact patch and small lugs have zero bite.
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    I got my -50 for $2K. But that was a Rocky Mountain deal, not the dealer. Rocky did not have any 2017 -70 models anymore, only -30 and -50. Oh well, worth a shot. That said, i do love my -50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    I have to say. After a few weeks of riding my farley 9.6... i hate the barbs. If your after float on fairly flat groomed singletrack that fly. Great tire. If you want to ride boot packed single track with hills and such your going to want to fbf and fbr or wait for the new 3.8x27.5 gnarwhals to be available in jan.

    I have so far spun out on every hill my 26x3.8 gnarwhals didnt on. Ive washed out on several corners.

    I feel the huge contact patch and small lugs have zero bite.
    Thanks, this is exactly the type of feedback I was looking for.

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