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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    So I did some measuring on the ICT fork. Spacing is obviously 150mm, and the fork ends measure 5mm thick on both sides. So the the axle needs to be about 160mm long, not including the threaded portion that will thread into the Paul Components nut.

    The Paragon Machine Works DT025 thru axle is 175mm long from under the skewer head to the end of the axle, with about 15mm threaded portion at the end. That equates to 160mm thru axle portion, perfect! So I ordered one to try out, and already have the Paul nut. I'll report back when I get it to confirm that it actually works.

    Link to the thru axle:

    https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/...tion&key=DT025

    Link to the Paul nut (You want the 15mm one for the fork):

    https://paulcomp.com/shop/components...-axle-end-nut/

    Stay tuned!
    Nice! If it works I'll probably get one F&R. The less tools I need to take the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    So I did some measuring on the ICT fork. Spacing is obviously 150mm, and the fork ends measure 5mm thick on both sides. So the the axle needs to be about 160mm long, not including the threaded portion that will thread into the Paul Components nut.

    The Paragon Machine Works DT025 thru axle is 175mm long from under the skewer head to the end of the axle, with about 15mm threaded portion at the end. That equates to 160mm thru axle portion, perfect! So I ordered one to try out, and already have the Paul nut. I'll report back when I get it to confirm that it actually works.

    Link to the thru axle:

    https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/...tion&key=DT025

    Link to the Paul nut (You want the 15mm one for the fork):

    https://paulcomp.com/shop/components...-axle-end-nut/

    Stay tuned!
    Just to follow up, the above mentioned parts are indeed correct for replacing the front thru axle on an ICT fork. Works perfectly.Surly ICT thread-img_3332.jpgSurly ICT thread-img_3333.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    Just to follow up, the above mentioned parts are indeed correct for replacing the front thru axle on an ICT fork. Works perfectly.Click image for larger version. 

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    Awesome info! Thanks!

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    Just got my ICT on Tuesday and took it out 3 days in a row. I rented one a few weeks back and fell in love with it. I ordered the last XXL complete bike, which only comes in yellow. After the shop started looking at it, the thing was all jacked up, rear hub was shot, rotors were roasted, paint chips all over it the frame and fork, rear tire sidewall looked like it was rubbing, on end of box it had a sticker on it "batch test". LBS called Surley and they sent out a black frame and fork and new parts. I prefer the black any day. Rear wheel is a loaner in pic so I could get it out and ride. Will build up a 29+ wheelset and get a frame bag made with that Nice large triangle.

    Absolutely love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarygary View Post
    Nice bike man!
    What wheels are on that sweet ride! I've got an ICT and am thinking of some 27.5 or 29ers. Haven't decided yet and would love some input as to which would be best for single track trails and some xc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    mines still solid after a year of abuse
    Looking at 2 years of a great working bb. No problems here.

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    I'm building a ICT spec ops, I have the surly od crank and was wondering what chain ring and cassette people are for a 1x10 drive. I have a shimano compatible rear hub, was thinking I needed about a 32t front but whose? I'm new to the fat bike world and any help would be greatly appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixshooter44 View Post
    I'm building a ICT spec ops, I have the surly od crank and was wondering what chain ring and cassette people are for a 1x10 drive. I have a shimano compatible rear hub, was thinking I needed about a 32t front but whose? I'm new to the fat bike world and any help would be greatly appreciated
    Wolftooth chainring, whatever cassette you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pkovo View Post
    Not the best pics, but this is the setup with Turbines and a 170 spindle. Again, no spacers, the pre-load ring sanded down to function as the spacer.





    I just tried this on my bike and it doesn't work! Your BB was made narrower! But how the hell did they do it perfectly flat?! I want to try this. Any advice?

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    Is it even close Charge? Any decent machine shop should be able to mill it down for you, if that's really what you want to do. I guess that's one upside of the press in bearing cups.

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    Pretty darn close! .75mm off each side and I'd be rolling fo sho!

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    hey gang...I just ordered a surly ict frame. this will be my first bike build of any kind. I hope you guys will be willing to help me with all my questions....I got the medium Jack Frost frame...everything is new to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestude View Post
    hey gang...I just ordered a surly ict frame. this will be my first bike build of any kind. I hope you guys will be willing to help me with all my questions....I got the medium Jack Frost frame...everything is new to me.
    Sweet and fire away with questions!

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    you won't regret it. ❤❤❤ my ICT!!

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    thanks charge....I do have a question about the bottom bracket....this is my first bike build, and I want to find a good durable bottom bracket that will not need modifications...I don't think I can afford if I screw up parts, and then have to rebuy...I like the idea of doing right, doing it once...what do you suggest

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestude View Post
    thanks charge....I do have a question about the bottom bracket....this is my first bike build, and I want to find a good durable bottom bracket that will not need modifications...I don't think I can afford if I screw up parts, and then have to rebuy...I like the idea of doing right, doing it once...what do you suggest
    What crankset are you planning on running? If you run a 24mm spindle I recommend a Shimano BB as they are cheap and durable, 30mm spindle and you should run a RaceFace BB.

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    Another thing you need to keep in mind is the extra BB width that the ICT has. Any 100mm spindle crankset will *not* work. Nothing from SRAM, no RaceFace ride or RaceFace 170mm cranksets. Pretty much only the Surly OD crank, and the RaceFace 190 cranks.

    Shoot me a PM if you need any parts for your build, I have an extensive parts bin selection.

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    I'm running the surly od crank 1x10 with shimano slx

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    i believe both Hope and Chris King have pressfit bb that will fit the ICT now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    What crankset are you planning on running? If you run a 24mm spindle I recommend a Shimano BB as they are cheap and durable, 30mm spindle and you should run a RaceFace BB.
    How to I learn about these different components. Is there a reference guide somewhere that would tell me what fits, and why I might want to 24mm over a 30mm.
    I'm a big stocky guy, 5.10. 265lbs. Will that make a difference in parts I should choose.

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    Depends on how much you want to spend. The Surly/cheaper RaceFace 190 crank will use a 24mm spindle and the expensive Turbine/Next carbon cranks will run 30mm spindles. Supposedly the 30mm spindle is stiffer but very marginally. Like 0.000000000000001% stiffer when you are putting down 1000 watts.

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    I'm thinking about shedding some wheel weight for the summer on my ICT and have been debating getting a 60-80mm fat wheelset (26") that will shed some weight, or maybe going 29+. My fear is that with 29+ I will end up also wanting a bluto because the ride will get too rigid. I am 200 lbs or so, and ride some rocky trails so I'm not a huge fan of going carbon rims.

    I've been leaning towards the Swiss Br2250 wheelset. In some searching around, it appears this will save 2+ lbs from my wheel weight (clownshoes w/ salsa hubs). More if I switch to 4" tires and go tubeless.
    Will 4" lower my BB too much vs 4.8? Would I see a dramatic improvement in climbing etc. ?

    Up for any suggestions. Basically I will have some money burning a hole in my pocket after I sell my plus bike, and the most logical way to spend it is upgrading the ICT :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrduford View Post
    I'm thinking about shedding some wheel weight for the summer on my ICT and have been debating getting a 60-80mm fat wheelset (26") that will shed some weight, or maybe going 29+. My fear is that with 29+ I will end up also wanting a bluto because the ride will get too rigid. I am 200 lbs or so, and ride some rocky trails so I'm not a huge fan of going carbon rims.

    I've been leaning towards the Swiss Br2250 wheelset. In some searching around, it appears this will save 2+ lbs from my wheel weight (clownshoes w/ salsa hubs). More if I switch to 4" tires and go tubeless.
    Will 4" lower my BB too much vs 4.8? Would I see a dramatic improvement in climbing etc. ?

    Up for any suggestions. Basically I will have some money burning a hole in my pocket after I sell my plus bike, and the most logical way to spend it is upgrading the ICT :P
    I recently built up a pair of Surly Other Brother Darryls for my 197mm fat bike. (Not an Ice Cream Truck) MUCH lighter and faster than my Clownshoes.
    I also have a 29+ wheelset that I love. Currently, I have 3" Chupacabras on it, fully rigis. I weigh about 255. I run 14-15 psi. I also have Jones bars and Wolftooth foam grips so I don't feel the need for a suspension fork.
    I want to try Duro's Crux tire. It's 29x3.25". May be even better.
    I still run 4.8" tires on my OBDs.
    I like turtles

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I recently built up a pair of Surly Other Brother Darryls for my 197mm fat bike. (Not an Ice Cream Truck) MUCH lighter and faster than my Clownshoes.
    I also have a 29+ wheelset that I love. Currently, I have 3" Chupacabras on it, fully rigis. I weigh about 255. I run 14-15 psi. I also have Jones bars and Wolftooth foam grips so I don't feel the need for a suspension fork.
    I want to try Duro's Crux tire. It's 29x3.25". May be even better.
    I still run 4.8" tires on my OBDs.
    Thanks for sharing your experience. I really like the new MOBD's too - They come stock on the 2017 ICT. I hear setting them up tubeless is also a snap?

    Do you find yourself using the 29+ or MOBD more often? Have you tried 4" on the MOBD set?

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    I run 4" on the original Darryls over the summer, and 5" over the winter. The bottom bracket is noticeably lower, but it isn't terrible. It isn't bad enough to prevent me from doing it every year (bought my ICT in early 2015, so this is my 3rd season). In my opinion, the bike rides really well with a fast rolling 4" tire (I use Husker Dus). It's a pretty good compromise without the cost of a second wheelset.

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    a second wheelset is a nice addition to an ICT though...im in the desert though so the only change in conditions is how hot it is,the nature of the surfaces doesnt change,its always loose and rocky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrduford View Post
    Thanks for sharing your experience. I really like the new MOBD's too - They come stock on the 2017 ICT. I hear setting them up tubeless is also a snap?

    Do you find yourself using the 29+ or MOBD more often? Have you tried 4" on the MOBD set?
    I have not put any 4" tires on the MOBDs. No point, in my opinion. Depending on the conditions, I'll ride full fat, 29+ or sometimes, fat front and 29+ on the rear. Bike is awesome like that. faster and tears up corners. Place near my house is very sandy. Works well there.
    MOBDs are super easy tubeless. When I originally built them, I had no faith and I set them up split tubeless. Used Bud and Lou since it was winter and we had snow. When I swapped Lou for the 4.8 Knard, I took a chance and used Whiskey Tape and set it up straight tubeless. Tire seated instantly and has not given me a single problem in two months.
    I like turtles

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrduford View Post
    I'm thinking about shedding some wheel weight for the summer on my ICT and have been debating getting a 60-80mm fat wheelset (26") that will shed some weight, or maybe going 29+. My fear is that with 29+ I will end up also wanting a bluto because the ride will get too rigid. I am 200 lbs or so, and ride some rocky trails so I'm not a huge fan of going carbon rims.

    I've been leaning towards the Swiss Br2250 wheelset. In some searching around, it appears this will save 2+ lbs from my wheel weight (clownshoes w/ salsa hubs). More if I switch to 4" tires and go tubeless.
    Will 4" lower my BB too much vs 4.8? Would I see a dramatic improvement in climbing etc. ?

    Up for any suggestions. Basically I will have some money burning a hole in my pocket after I sell my plus bike, and the most logical way to spend it is upgrading the ICT :P
    I bought the Borealis tubeless wheelset and used FattyStrippers w/4" Jumbo Jims. The difference was night and day. Took my ICT from fun fat trail bike to a bike that could actually accelerate. Monet well spent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Depends on how much you want to spend. The Surly/cheaper RaceFace 190 crank will use a 24mm spindle and the expensive Turbine/Next carbon cranks will run 30mm spindles. Supposedly the 30mm spindle is stiffer but very marginally. Like 0.000000000000001% stiffer when you are putting down 1000 watts.
    So which bottom bracket, spindle and cranks should I get. Which will fit without a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestude View Post
    So which bottom bracket, spindle and cranks should I get. Which will fit without a problem
    that would depend on what you mean by "without a problem"...
    the surly crank/bb would no doubt be the easiest to install,good cranks,pretty bombproof,maybe a tad heavy,but like most surly products it will stand up to a lot of abuse...
    the aeffect is a good crank as well,dont have any experience with them in the context of an ICT though...
    i have a turbine crank/bb...its a great crank/bb so far except for having to pull it apart and clean and re-grease everything about every three months when it starts creaking again,so you need the cinch cap tool,and you can expect to have to replace the nylon pre load collar once a year or so...but aside from that no complaints!

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