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    On the subject of genre busting...

    Rode my new bike in Crested Butte last weekend--slogged up to 12,200', camped, woke, rode some more, then blasted back to town.










    Rode it unladen on an Ewok-approved trail the next day. So sweet.











    Brought it home and changed shoes, then headed out for some wash bashing and dry creek exploring.














    Currently poring over maps and thinkering up some places to take this'n. Places I'd not have thought about riding--until now...


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    are those 3.0 knards on blunts in the last few pics??

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    Si.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Si.
    does Si = yes?

    Since Lenz doesn't list this unit is it safe to say a custom build??
    Last edited by nvphatty; 07-26-2013 at 05:51 AM.

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    Ok, so spill the beans already and details please!

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    Sweet looking frame. I would love to know how you got the finish to look like that!!


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    My jaw is on the floor..

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    Meh.


    J/K- Holy Crap! What a perfect combination of F/S and 29+. A little more detail on the amount of travel and geo, plus fork if you please. Also, tried this with Rabbit Holes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    Meh.


    J/K- Holy Crap! What a perfect combination of F/S and 29+. A little more detail on the amount of travel and geo, plus fork if you please. Also, tried this with Rabbit Holes?
    Mike has a pic on pg1 of this thread but there's numerous others showing RH/knard on sus forks.

    Krampus with Front Suspension!

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    THIS is the bike that Salsa could have/should have produced for 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishpeming View Post
    Ok, so spill the beans already and details please!
    I built a Krampus this spring. Loved the sportiness, loved the float, loved the suppleness afforded by those pillowy 120tpi casings at ~15psi. Hated the hardtail nature of it. What can I say--I'm getting old and soft.

    Every time I got off the Krampus I went back to my Mammoth, loving the geo and general FSiness of it. Talked to Devin Lenz and he agreed to make what you see in the pics above.

    Pretty sure he made a handful of extras in this batch, and I know he plans to make many more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnroyal View Post
    THIS is the bike that Salsa could have/should have produced for 2014.
    absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    I built a Krampus this spring. Loved the sportiness, loved the float, loved the suppleness afforded by those pillowy 120tpi casings at ~15psi. Hated the hardtail nature of it. What can I say--I'm getting old and soft.

    Every time I got off the Krampus I went back to my Mammoth loving the geo and general FSiness of it. Talked to Devin Lenz and he agreed to make what you see in the pics above.

    Pretty sure he made a handful of extras in this batch, and I know he plans to make many more.
    Glad to hear so i sent an email.

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    Great job Mike, love the forward thinking. I'm tying to figure out how I can put a Lou on the back of my FatBox with a 70mm rim.

    Were you able to ride it in anykind of snow or sand? Was just wondering how it compared to full fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolan17 View Post
    Great job Mike, love the forward thinking. I'm tying to figure out how I can put a Lou on the back of my FatBox with a 70mm rim.

    Were you able to ride it in anykind of snow or sand? Was just wondering how it compared to full fat.

    -Nolan
    I've never cared for full fat in summer, other than beach riding. Fat wheels and tires are too heavy to be "fun", plus too expensive to thrash on the way I like to ride in summer.

    I lead with that preamble so that you understand my intent with this bike was to blur the lines between full fat and 29". Light, nimble, capable, and fast on fun trails. Good float in sand. No idea on snow, nor do I really plan to use it there--that's where full fat shines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    I've never cared for full fat in summer, other than beach riding. Fat wheels and tires are too heavy to be "fun", plus too expensive to thrash on the way I like to ride in summer.

    I lead with that preamble so that you understand my intent with this bike was to blur the lines between full fat and 29". Light, nimble, capable, and fast on fun trails. Good float in sand. No idea on snow, nor do I really plan to use it there--that's where full fat shines.
    Encouraging to hear, and good to see a long travel FS bike in this format.

    One of the reasons I went fat a few years ago was based on wanting to avoid repeating the worst bike accident I'd had, involving an unexpected sand pit on an otherwise familiar trail for the first ride of a season, immediately followed by a creek bridge. How I walked away from that I still don't know.

    What I've found riding fatties in summer and trying to increase my subjective level of aggression, is that fat didn't really solve the whole sand-handilng-at-speed problem. At speed you can still shear sand while cornering even if your wheel is pointed where you intend.

    You know what solves that problem better? Not pushing it way too fast around a blind corner.

    On the other hand I somewhat routinely test ride a friend's or a shop's FS 29er and find them too fidgety.

    So, yes, FS 29+ is what I want to try next and I'm glad to hear it's working for you.
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    That looks sweet!This may be my next bike!Do we know if any other tires are gonna be available in this size?

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    what does the 29x5.0 mean? surely not 5" tire width?

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    I'm still so confused, people wanted bigger than 26" so along came the 29er. Well then a angry horde came along and decided a 29er was to much tire to have fun on so along came the 27.5. Now comes the 29er plus which in theory atleast with the angry horde should be less nimble yet which in turn equals less fun. Ok rambling and confused. Cool bike btw!
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    companies need to continue to make money on such basic technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I'm still so confused, people wanted bigger than 26" so along came the 29er. Well then a angry horde came along and decided a 29er was to much tire to have fun on so along came the 27.5. Now comes the 29er plus which in theory atleast with the angry horde should be less nimble yet which in turn equals less fun. Ok rambling and confused. Cool bike btw!
    There's one aspect of life that is forever constant, thats change.

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    Glad to see it in the flesh, that means mine can't be far behind!

    Only, I think mine will be rocking a SuperMax, gotta build up the wheel and verify clearance....

    Mike, did you need to run the narrower rims, or will RH's work too?

    Diggin' the new graphics too, Devin told me he was paying around with a new look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    There's one aspect of life that is forever constant, thats change.
    I get change but with Mike running one and liking it gives it validity at least in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I'm still so confused, people wanted bigger than 26" so along came the 29er. Well then a angry horde came along and decided a 29er was to much tire to have fun on so along came the 27.5. Now comes the 29er plus which in theory atleast with the angry horde should be less nimble yet which in turn equals less fun. Ok rambling and confused. Cool bike btw!

    Bicycles have been done 36 along with unicycles and there is more than one rim extrusion and tire in that size...history seems to say that we will continue to attempt to reinvent the wheel and various contraptions under which the wheel is mounted.

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    On the subject of genre busting...

    Quote Originally Posted by boogman View Post
    what does the 29x5.0 mean? surely not 5" tire width?
    29" tire, 5" of delightful travel.
    Riding Fat and still just as fast as I never was.

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    Looks good mike !

    Quote Originally Posted by boogman View Post
    what does the 29x5.0 mean? surely not 5" tire width?
    Mammoths are 29" wheels with 5" travel, 29x5 is just the way Lenz say it.
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