status of all the new forks coming out

[yxan]

I am curious if people have the full low down on the new 5" capable forks. Please comment and I can update this table.

Fork brand	Material	Qr style(s)	Available as fork only	Tapered	A/C	Offset	Weight	Price
Specialized	Carbon	135x9mm	not annouced	yes	?	?	not annouced	not annouced
Borealis	Carbon	135x15mm	yes	yes	468mm	45mm	575 grams	$449
Salsa	Carbon	142x15mm	yes	yes	483mm	?	700grams	not annouced
Salsa	Al	135x9mm	yes	yes	483mm	?	?	not annouced
Carver	Carbon	135x9mm	yes	no	465mm	45mm	570 grams	$299
9:zero:7	Carbon	135x15mm	yes	yes	?	?	not annouced	not annouced
Muru	Ti/Al	135x10mm	yes	both	470mm	?	705/768 gram	$299/179

[FlowinFlo]

Good idea!

Looking on the pictures the Salsa carbon fork should have 15mm qr.
All the new forks you mentioned will be tapered, right?

[OUWxGuesser]

I ran into the Salsa guys at their booth at the Dirty Kanza last June. Iasked about the availability of the carbon fork. They a) couldn't confirm availability by itself (initially) and b) told me the geometry was wrong for their current 2013 Mukluks.

[Lars_D]

It'd be interesting to know AC distance on each model.

[yxan]

I added the additional columns, but would love to have some people with knowledge about the more detailed specs chime in

[duggus]

Awesome chart... I'm in the market for a carbon fork for my moonlander this fall. Kind of a bummer they are all tapered. But I've heard you can't go wrong with the weight and quality of the Carver forks. I'm 225 geared up... so carbon still scares me. I don't really jump my moonlander though... so...

[ScaryJerry]

based on pictures and the announcement of the new fargo, it looks like Salsa is switching all their new rigid forks to 490mm a2c (suspension corrected for 100mm).

[MuruCycles]

Muru (currently) offer two rigid forks that fit the 5" tyres. (suspension is coming)

The Swale [Ti] has a regular 135/10mm axle and 140mm between the upper legs. (it swallows a Bud on a Clown shoe with space to spare)

Our Swale [Al] is alloy and has the same dimensions.

The Swale ti is available in either straight or tapered steerer. The Swale alloy is in tapered only for now.

[yxan]

Muru (currently) offer two rigid forks that fit the 5" tyres. (suspension is coming)

The Swale [Ti] has a regular 135/10mm axle and 140mm between the upper legs. (it swallows a Bud on a Clown shoe with space to spare)

Our Swale [Al] is alloy and has the same dimensions.

The Swale ti is available in either straight or tapered steerer. The Swale alloy is in tapered only for now.

would you guys consider doing a suspension fork with a crown wide enough for a CS with Lou front? that to me is the holy grail = instant purchase

[mochunk]

Still stuck to just the Carver for the Surlys. It's ok, just a little concerned about the brake facing inconsistencies posted. I haven't pulled the trigger yet so we'll see. I need to rebuild my wheel or build an all new one. The latter preferred but just means a bigger initial investment with a second rim and hub. The ability to put back on the stock fork and wheel in a pinch or for winter is an added bonus probably worth the extra cost.

[MuruCycles]

would you guys consider doing a suspension fork with a crown wide enough for a CS with Lou front? that to me is the holy grail = instant purchase

the current fork is 122mm between the upper legs.

however we're already at work on the wider model. and all the hard work (the damper etc) has been done...

[shoo]

Fatback does have a wider carbon fork coming soon. There have been pictures floating around.

Cheers,
Steven

[yxan]

updated the salsa fork specs, my god 142x15

[Stevob]

Throw an extra column in there for offset.

[yxan]

Throw an extra column in there for offset.

Just added, not sure where I can find those values (are some calling that rake?)

[bdundee]

updated the salsa fork specs, my god 142x15

I sure hope RS doesn't follow suite!!

[yxan]

I sure hope RS doesn't follow suite!!

I am afraid they just might. Which would suck

[Vighor]

I certainly don't understand why after everybody (hub and fork manufactors) is stepping on the 135mm train a company comes up with a 142 fork ..

That said, one reason i didnt go for a Sandman fatty was their use of a 165 rear hub.

[yxan]

bummer really as I would have loved the suspension corrected fork in carbon

[shoo]

I wonder if it is a typo. Standard front hubs did not go wider when they went to 15 mm through axel.
I understand having 170 and 190 rears, it makes sense. Keep 135 front.

On the front I use a 10 mm 135 DT RWS and it is very rigid. I do not see the need or the logic to go to another standard.

I am afraid they just might. Which would suck

[caminoloco]

I certainly don't understand why after everybody (hub and fork manufactors) is stepping on the 135mm train a company comes up with a 142 fork ..

That said, one reason i didnt go for a Sandman fatty was their use of a 165 rear hub.

A 170mm hub fits in any Sandman. The whole hub dimension issue is often more a marketing spin than anything else. In a properly designed rear frame you can fit very wide rim/tire combo's and use a 165mm hub in combination with offset chainrings. But then that "wasn't good enough", so on came the 170mm hub (which, when you look at it brings only a miniscule extra tiny bit of chain/tire clearance... neglegible in fact).
If we now have to believe all the marketing spin, even wider is the only way to go...

Same now with the front hub. I do understand the 135mm standard, it's a pain to remove/put in a wide tire into a 100mm-hub fork due to the brake caliper. I do think that a rigid 135mm fork is somehow "uglier", but because form has to follow function in my book...

I often compare what's currently happening with fatbikes to the mtb craze in the earlu to mid '90ies: in a flurry of the wildest designs, everybody is trying to convince the rest that their hurried and sometimes poorly-thought-over design is the next best thing - instead of stepping back, taking a deep breath and properly thinking it over.

[Sand Rat]

Perhaps I am missing something about the new Salsa 142 fork, but isn't the 7mm increase over a 135 just to accommodate the thru axle? From the Bike Rumor article, that is what I gathered, and there was no implied increase in tire clearance?

Do very much like seeing a trend to thru axles in the front, a much safer concept.

[yxan]

Perhaps I am missing something about the new Salsa 142 fork, but isn't the 7mm increase over a 135 just to accommodate the thru axle? From the Bike Rumor article, that is what I gathered, and there was no implied increase in tire clearance?

Do very much like seeing a trend to thru axles in the front, a much safer concept.

It is not exactly clear, I hear something about endcaps coming with their hub so im guessing something changes

[ScaryJerry]

read up on 142x12 rears, it's the same idea.

[Volsung]

also include a column for front or rear disc spacing. i think most aftermarket forks are going to front, but it's good to know for sure

[Stevob]

Just added, not sure where I can find those values (are some calling that rake?)

Yes, rake is the same as offset

[formicaman]

I'm waiting until a suspension fork is available before pulling the trigger on a Krampus.

[duggus]

I'm waiting until a suspension fork is available before pulling the trigger on a Krampus.

There's a thread on this... Krampus with Front Suspension!

The RH/K combo will fit in either of the Fox forks, barely, with zero clearance for mud or even much tire runout. If I really wanted this to work I'd do a teeny bit of dremeling of the arch and call it good.

Only pic I took of the RH/K in a Fox 32:

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Didn't fit in a Revelation.

Fit with some room to spare in both the WB Loop and the Manitou Tower. Both could also use some dremeling to gain precious mud clearance.

[yxan]

anyone know when the Salsa forks will be for sale? after having waited all year its time to start buying stuff

[spaniardclimber]

The Salsa carbon fork that is used on the carbon Beargrease is for 4", not for 5".

[seewhatididther]

Muru (currently) offer two rigid forks that fit the 5" tyres. (suspension is coming)

The Swale [Ti] has a regular 135/10mm axle and 140mm between the upper legs. (it swallows a Bud on a Clown shoe with space to spare)

Our Swale [Al] is alloy and has the same dimensions.

The Swale ti is available in either straight or tapered steerer. The Swale alloy is in tapered only for now.

What's the deal with the ti fork on singletrack etc.? Why do you recommend the al fork instead?