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    Specialized Fatboy vs. Trek Farley

    I live in Belgium ans I am new to Fatbiking.
    These bikes look awsome though and I am working on a strategy to justify buying. I would keep my sub 26lbs Ti 29er hartail for the hardcore trail /xc business.
    I would be buying a fatbike for fun biking in general but also for trail riding. It's generally flat over here, winters are muddy and we got a lot of very sandy trails, rarely with snow. So no sandy beaches and snowy plains over here.
    I am looking at a alu frame/bike just for stiffness reasons but also having light wheels (going tubeless = a must) as this is what worries me most.
    looking overall to go sub 28lbs
    Question for the specialist crowd over there : which of these two bikes is most likely to fit my intended us.

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    Welcome,
    I rode the Trek and truly it would fit your type of riding except the weight might be a little heavier than you want. The Spesh seems like a great bike and lighter but that is pretty much armchair cycling because there have been none released out into the wild yet. Have you checked into Sandman at all, kind of a mystery company and would fit your needs as well and over on you side of the world, I think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Welcome,
    I rode the Trek and truly it would fit your type of riding except the weight might be a little heavier than you want. The Spesh seems like a great bike and lighter but that is pretty much armchair cycling because there have been none released out into the wild yet. Have you checked into Sandman at all, kind of a mystery company and would fit your needs as well and over on you side of the world, I think?
    Sandman is really nextdoor but don't find it attractive propositions :
    The Atacama is steel , heavy, triple crank and as expensive as above bikes.
    The Gobi is alu but 1000 more expensive, heavy, triple crank, suspended fork.
    Why do you call it a mystery company except that is not well known ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigrolino22 View Post
    Sandman is really nextdoor but don't find it attractive propositions :
    The Atacama is steel , heavy, triple crank and as expensive as above bikes.
    The Gobi is alu but 1000 more expensive, heavy, triple crank, suspended fork.
    Why do you call it a mystery company except that is not well known ?
    Yeah over here the information is pretty limited and from my experience they where very hard to get in touch with actually they never returned my emails, love their bikes though!
    And I love beer!!

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    I hear that the Trek has clearance issues and may not fit Nates, which sound like they'd be better for your conditions than the stock Knards.

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    I picked up the trek on Friday and there is plenty of room for nates. The bike shop will be slapping on some nates for it as a matter of fact on tues. I'll post some pics when it's done. I have a specialized on order too. I'll report back once I get both.

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    The question I had as to how Nates fit on the rear of a Trek Farley was just a simple one. Several well-intentioned people have said that they should fit - I appreciate that.

    Before I go farther with deciding to buy a Farley, I just want to know 1) if Nates actually do fit (which I suspect they do), and 2) when pressurized to around 20 lbs or so, what the actual clearances are at the chain stay, seat tube, seat stay, and between the tire and the body of the front derailleur. That's it: do they fit, and what are the clearances.

    I was looking at a Farley again yesterday, and the impression I came away with was that Trek designed the bike somewhat tightly around 4" tires on the 82mm rims. As opposed to some other bikes, I don't think one could run a BFL on the rear on the stock RD rim. I also doubt one could run a Clownshoe rim in the rear with a Nate or a Knard, but who knows. As for what will fit up front, the fork looks like it will take a Nate/RD combination no problem, but I haven't seen it yet.

    My conclusion is that for running around on dirt and singletrack trails, and for somewhat packed/groomed snow trails and snow roads, I think the Trek would be awfully snappy, fast, and a lot of fun to ride. Nates on the stock HD rims would give a lot of grip and climbing hookup in the snow, and the Knards would be wonderful tires for most everything else I'd want to do in non-snow months.

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    The limiter will be the front derailleur. That's where the tightest clearance is by far. I'll post some pics with the nates mounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithrider View Post
    The limiter will be the front derailleur. That's where the tightest clearance is by far. I'll post some pics with the nates mounted.
    That's what I figured - thanks in advance for posting the pics!

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    Sandman is really hard to get in contact with the distributor in Japan gave up and refunded all the money to the customers, canceled all orders and have just given up and no longer carry the bikes.

    He was beyond disappointing because he loved the bikes and almost bought one for himself

    tl:dr can't get in contact. mystery company. good bikes bad business.

    original topic. I'd go with the Trek. Fan of the geometry. I've even had thoughts of selling my Mukluk to get a Farley

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    Quote Originally Posted by thing View Post
    Sandman is really hard to get in contact with the distributor in Japan gave up and refunded all the money to the customers, canceled all orders and have just given up and no longer carry the bikes.

    He was beyond disappointing because he loved the bikes and almost bought one for himself

    tl:dr can't get in contact. mystery company. good bikes bad business.

    original topic. I'd go with the Trek. Fan of the geometry. I've even had thoughts of selling my Mukluk to get a Farley
    It shouldn't be too hard. They seem to be up and running. They are a. Small company , maybe some cashflow issues. Setting up and maintaining a dealer network for such a small company isn't straightforward.

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    Re: Specialized Fatboy vs. Trek Farley

    Quote Originally Posted by Northernbreed View Post
    Before I go farther with deciding to buy a Farley, I just want to know 1) if Nates actually do fit (which I suspect they do), and 2) when pressurized to around 20 lbs or so, what the actual clearances are at the chain stay, seat tube, seat stay, and between the tire and the body of the front derailleur. That's it: do they fit, and what are the clearances.
    Not sure why in the world you would ever want a fat bike tire at 20psi... let alone over 10. Also - don't discount the Knards... they are actually a very good all-around tire for all seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Not sure why in the world you would ever want a fat bike tire at 20psi... let alone over 10. Also - don't discount the Knards... they are actually a very good all-around tire for all seasons.
    The 20 psi number was just intended to maximize the size of the tire for the sake of checking clearances. And there are times that having the pressure over 10 psi works (for me anyway) if I'm doing a bunch of pavement or smooth dirt road riding.

    Knards - yeah, I like the way they look a lot, and will have them on whatever I end up with. I do think that Nates would be better for some conditions we get here in the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I hear that the Trek has clearance issues and may not fit Nates, which sound like they'd be better for your conditions than the stock Knards.
    Tired hearing all the "rumors" of Nates not fitting on Farleys. Here you go folks!
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    Haven't ridden a Farley but did get on the Fatboy...what a nimble, solid and light-feeling ride...I was giggling the whole time...much better balance than Pugs, Muks, KHS, or thw Charge Cooker...all of which I test rode. For the money, the basic Fatboy is a wicked bargain in my estimation. I haven't rode carbon bikes but between cost and minor weight differential, I don't see the benefit if I'm not racing or merely trying to impress all of you. And, I "apologize" for not listing all my bikes on the bottom of my posts like so many need to do...seems juvenile to me. If you need to know what my other bikes are, feel free to ask...otherwise, have fun on whatever wheels you have under you!!!
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    Specialized at 28 lbs is going to be a costly trick. Better off to look for a Beargrease.

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    A Fatboy starting at 30 lbs. is a better deal any day than a Beargrease...if you're a weight-weenie and money is no problem, carbon is always lighter but not so much better performing or important if you just want to have fun...anyway, enjoy whatever you ride!
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    i rode the fatboy expert the other day and couldn't wait to get back on my charge. steel really does make a difference. the charge has better trail manners as well, imo.

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    To each his (or her) own...that's why we test-ride...glad you like your bike!!!
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    Re: Specialized Fatboy vs. Trek Farley

    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    Specialized at 28 lbs is going to be a costly trick. Better off to look for a Beargrease.
    No.

    My Fatboy is 30# stock.

    Qtubes will drop 1 pound at least over the stock tubes. $9

    = 29#

    Options to drop the other pound...

    Go 1x10. $100

    Get lighter cranks (the Samox cranks weigh a tonne, switching to Turbines will almost get you there). $300

    Replace bar and seat post with carbony stuff. $250

    Any one of these..

    = 28#


    And none of these options costs anywhere close to the cost of a beargrease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iscariot View Post
    No.

    My Fatboy is 30# stock.

    Qtubes will drop 1 pound at least over the stock tubes. $9

    = 29#

    Options to drop the other pound...

    Go 1x10. $100

    Get lighter cranks (the Samox cranks weigh a tonne, switching to Turbines will almost get you there). $300

    Replace bar and seat post with carbony stuff. $250

    Any one of these..

    = 28#


    And none of these options costs anywhere close to the cost of a beargrease.
    2850 for a Fatboy Expert here at 31 lbs. 3600 for a BG at 28 lbs.

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    The LBS down the street has a BG on for 2900 Canadian if anyone is looking.

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    I would love to have a Farley but the delivery date here in California is March 2015. So I picked up a Specialized Fatboy. Had 3 rides 75 miles on it. I'm #happyhappyhappy
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    Rode these two bikes back-to-back. Sex appeal, I wanted the Farley soooo bad. I must be a sucker for all the anodized green bits that I would end up changing out anyway.

    The Farley rode lighter than the Fatboy. Felt like more compact ergos made steer quicker, borderline twitchy. I still cannot believe the Farley weighs more.

    The Fatboy was a bunch smoother.....a huge plus in my book! And I really liked the look and feel of the GC tires.

    At the end of the day, going fat, on the Farley was a compromise. The Fatboy has room for the big tires, plus some extra. And as with everything, I voted with my wallet. The Fatboy was cheaper, and left me with a slightly bigger grin when riding it.

    Months later, no regrets. Still love the Fatboy! Love XC trails on it. Still ride with the wifey on the paved trails.

    Jason

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