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    Any one else hear that thunder ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    Any one else hear that thunder ?
    It's the sound of a fat rolling bandwagon.
    As little bike as possible, as silent as possible.
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    Stoked for those SpecialiZed tires! And that fork. $500 for a yampa fork? No thanks... Not with this puppy out. Competition is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Stoked for those SpecialiZed tires! And that fork. $500 for a yampa fork? No thanks... Not with this puppy out. Competition is a good thing.
    maybe. but I'd prefer a 15mm thu axle myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    those SpecialiZed tires!
    Are Bud and Lou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBR.com
    The rear end is quite wide and we hit or heel on seatstay sometimes.
    With an unchanged BB width and a 190mm rear axle I was wondering how that wouldn't happen.
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    Valve stems

    Rear. Well, that's different.
    Specialized Fatboy-p1010268.jpg


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    Out to ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by collideous View Post
    With an unchanged BB width and a 190mm rear axle I was wondering how that wouldn't happen.
    Exactly. I guess they wanted plenty of clearance for any tires, but still I think 170mm would be enough. Where does it say the bb is "unchanged"? Why wouldn't they go with at least a 100mm with the 190mm? We figured that out years ago.
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    Hmmm...

    Nice looking machine. Highly manipulated tubing. Nice style. Looks like they've put a lot of thought into it. Well... except for that rear valve stem placement. The real question is... how did they get that electrical tape to stick to the tire sidewall?
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    They dropped the ball on thru-axle. Not sure how much I feel I've needed it on my fatty but it will be nice to have. Really stoked for their tire offerings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    Are Bud and Lou.
    * "Our test bike came with Surly tires but Specialized Ground Control tires are coming soon."

    I'm not a Specialized fan but I am pretty excited to see this after the lame output from Kona. They are at least bringing a fatbike spec'd with a carbon fork and aluminum frame for the same price as bikes without it. And now another tire option... and another rim/wheel option. This is a win.

    In a side note: I hope Surly comes out with a full suspension fat bike first or something crazy to surprise everyone again... otherwise I'm a little worried for them. Getting to be some really strong competition. This coming from a Surly fan.

    Now we wait for a quality review from our local experts at fat-bike.com
    No offense... but that was just a very quick-over generic review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    Exactly. I guess they wanted plenty of clearance for any tires, but still I think 170mm would be enough. Where does it say the bb is "unchanged"? Why wouldn't they go with at least a 100mm with the 190mm? We figured that out years ago.
    With unchanged I meant 100mm. Increase the rear dropout spacing to 190mm vs. 170mm results in 10mm of reduced heel clearance. Probably not a huge issue with long s-bent chainstays. Seems like the MTBR folks hit the chainstays of the Specialized a lot, though. To keep enough heel clearance a 190mm rear axle would call for a 120mm BB, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    Why wouldn't they go with at least a 100mm with the 190mm? We figured that out years ago.
    It looks like it is... http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/u...7/P1010265.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    It's the sound of a fat rolling bandwagon.
    I wonder how many people the big S sued for name rights on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collideous View Post
    With unchanged I meant 100mm. Increase the rear dropout spacing to 190mm vs. 170mm results in 10mm of reduced heel clearance. Probably not a huge issue with long s-bent chainstays. Seems like the MTBR folks hit the chainstays of the Specialized a lot, though. To keep enough heel clearance a 190mm rear axle would call for a 120mm BB, imho.
    This has me wondering if this bike is as pedal strike prone as the Mukluk. If they went with a 120mm BB shell it would be even worse than the Muk I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    I wonder how many people the big S sued for name rights on that one.
    Name rights for Fatboy? Specialized have been using that for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    Name rights for Fatboy? Specialized have been using that for years.
    You are right, I do recall them using that somewhere else, just can't remember where?
    It was meant more as an expression of dislike for the way that the big S has conducted themselves over the years. That being said, there is no denying the fact that they are able to produce a superior product.

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    Re: Specialized Fatboy

    This makes the Kona offering look like a half-baked cash in.

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    Geo? Is this more trail or adventure-oriented?

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    Looks good. I bet a couple locals buy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    You are right, I do recall them using that somewhere else, just can't remember where?
    A slick tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    In a side note: I hope Surly comes out with a full suspension fat bike first or something crazy to surprise everyone again... otherwise I'm a little worried for them. Getting to be some really strong competition. This coming from a Surly fan.
    Surly will never come out with a FS fat bike. How long have they been selling MTBs and have they come out with a single suspension equipped bike yet? No.

    Salsa [Surly's sister company at QBP] has said they'll sell a FS fat bike as soon as there is a production fat fork from one of the NA suspension companies.

    Personally I'm not worried about Surly at all. They've continued to thrive selling steel rigid bikes in a market with tons of high tech alternatives. I don't see anything changing.

    So far neither the Kona or the Specialized fatbike has broken any new ground that the existing smaller bike companies haven't been already providing.

    The only real concern I have is that if the fatbike market gets divided amongst too many players will there be enough incentive for companies like Surly to spend the $$$ to do the R&D and produce new products that can then be copied? If the incentive is too small you see lots of similar fatbike product from everyone and slowed product development.

    That won't be bad for Surly they'll keep investing where they have an advantage [ie. Krampus/29+], but it would be bad for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Surly will never come out with a FS fat bike. How long have they been selling MTBs and have they come out with a single suspension equipped bike yet? No.
    That's why I said something crazy to surprise us... it would be a surprise right? I was just saying... their niche hold on the fat bike realm keeps getting smaller and smaller. I love my Moonlander, but at the same time would I like something that doesn't take all my energy to get it on top of the car? Yes.

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