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    shreddy fun fat bikes?

    I'm looking for a fat bike mostly to get me through winter, and more for goofing around on in the summer, though who know's, could end up being a go to bike in summer too.

    Anyway, I've only really ridden one fat bike, that was a boreas echo. I was really impressed with it, opened my eyes to what a fat bike can do. it was actually pretty damn fun and nimble, i'd consider one, but not having ridden anything else, i want to see what else is out there.

    I mostly want the most fun, "shreddy" fat bike i can find, think fat bike DJ style.

    So far the Matter Benefat or chromag nice dreams are the best looking that i've found. a little on the pricey side for steel, but IMO high quality steel frames ride as well as carbon.
    I've seen a couple deals on the salsa beargrease, just not sure its what i'm looking for.

    Anything else out there i'm missing?

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    The shred is in the rider padawan, not the bike

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    I can't speak for winter in my part of NC it snows here about once every 2 years an inch if we are lucky. However I bought a Bucksaw for the very reason you are describing. I wanted a bike that was jut plain fun to ride. Turns out the bike can climb, it's fast, it corners and just plain fun to ride. It has been my choice bike to ride this year. Not to mention I love the looks I get when I pull into the parking lot with it (priceless). Not many fat bikes in my area. That look is only surpassed when I pass people on the trail. I see the trails in a whole different light when I am on the bucksaw compared to my Camber.
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    shreddy fun fat bikes?

    Salsa Beargrease. I ride it with the rigid carbon fork and love it. The Salsa bucksaw is surprisingly agile for a full suspension fatty.

    I ride without suspension because it is too cold in MN to have those components and Im not going to switch back and fourth with the seasons.


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    Kona Wozo fits the bill if you are good with aluminum. I have a carbon farley 9.8 and it rips.

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    When I was looking at fat bikes in October last year I tried a few traily fat bikes Scott Big Jon Spesh Fatboy and a Cube Nutrail.

    They were all quite normal tbh. I'd expected them to be like dragging a boat anchor but I think they were all intended to be ridden on dirt.

    We don't have much snow in central England so for me the grip-without-drag thing had a not-so-obvious benefit - nearly all my effort is translated into forward motion and it's surprising when I dip back into thin tyres how much slip-grip is going on at a very low level. Like being in a permanent state of slightly wheelspinning

    The upshot of this is Strava says I'm in the top 30-40 of many segments that have 1000s of attempts. The bike (Big Jon) climbs like an animal it really is a monster truck uphill and apart from sustained ugliness it's very fast everywhere else. The motorised feel at anything above walking space is quite addictive click 4th-click 5th-click 6th woh we're moving now - click 7th-click 8th holy crap - click 9th-click 10th faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

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    I haven't ridden one but the On-One fatty is supposed to be just what you're looking for. I have a Bucksaw and a Borealis Yampa and love them both. The Yampa does not have super short chainstays but you wouldn't know it the way it rides.

    I would like to try out a Wozo.

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    rocky mountain blizzard -50, now i advent ridden it yet but it is on the way. look at their website vids they are making fat bikes for exactly what you describe.

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    I have a ICT and Beargrease, my wife has a Wednesday. I have the most time on my ICT and it just is a hoot. With a Wren 110 fork on there, it has a 66 degree HT angle. It makes the DH extremely fun. Don't have much time on the BG, but it's a rocket with how light it is. Wednesday is also really fun with the short CS.

    I was lucky enough to score a Wozo frame that should show up today. ...I think the Beargrease should be scared it's getting sold soon...

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    It's hard to go wrong with a Wednesday.

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    I really like the On One Fatty Trail. 67 degree head tube with 120mm bluto, 450mm chainstays (which are not real short, but better than a lot of the options out there) long top tube. I ride mine on everything from summer single track to the local downhill park. I jump it often, and it handles well.

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    Well I am going to chime in for my Farley 7. It is quick and climbs great. Very nimble and rolls over about anything.
    Weighs around 28 with my dropper on it so not to heavy. I rode a lot of bikes before I settled on this one. Thinking about an EX next year.
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    Canyon Dude if you're outside of the US, good geo and value that beats other brands to a pulp.

    If I hadn't been on one I'd be on a Wozo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegard View Post
    Canyon Dude if you're outside of the US, good geo and value that beats other brands to a pulp...
    I'm liking that Dude. Nice components and geometry seems great. I haven't heard much else, but isn't Canyon coming to US in 2017? That's not far away...

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    If you're looking for a jumpy, agile bike you can beat on, without being too expensive(relative), I would think the Kona Wozo or Surly Wednesday would be the answer. Both are pretty bomber bikes with fun geometry.

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    One bike to rule them all... farley ex either spec is killer the only thing that might hold it back from being one bike quiver is the shock doesnt like extreme cold temps. Funnest bike ive ever been on. It climbs extremely well and is awesome on the downs

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    i looked at the geometry for all these bikes, the 17' RM Blizzard is the most aggressive in my opinion, 67* HA and 435mm cs with 4.8 tires and a 120mm fork. anyhow i don't have the bike yet but it is good math

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    I happen to have an On-One Fatty Trail for sale if the OP is interested. Fit's a 4.7" Vee Bulldozer in the rear, which is quite impressive for a 170 rear end.

    The Wozo is quite intriguing as well. My long term fatty will be a Walt Works ultimate warrior type Fat/29er with an 83mm BB.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Don't get TOO hung up on the numbers. I'm used to super slack in front and short out back, but even my 68°; 450mm stay bike manuals fine and jumps great. I really think fat tires can compensate for a couple degrees of slackness on the downs. They eat the trail right up.

    Pat Smage shreds on a Fatback Corvus, and the Pivot Les Fat is marketed that way as well.

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    Wednesday. New carbon Mukluk is fun too.

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    Beargrease is a nice all around bike, light and playful, but if you want a trail ripper, you need to look at frames like the Wozo: long, low, short cs.

    You can also buy my large barely used Beargrease

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustyduke22 View Post
    I have a ICT and Beargrease, my wife has a Wednesday. I have the most time on my ICT and it just is a hoot. With a Wren 110 fork on there, it has a 66 degree HT angle. It makes the DH extremely fun. Don't have much time on the BG, but it's a rocket with how light it is. Wednesday is also really fun with the short CS.

    I was lucky enough to score a Wozo frame that should show up today. ...I think the Beargrease should be scared it's getting sold soon...

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    Look at the trek farley. I got one last winter and was super impressed with it. I put a Bluto on this spring and it became my light FR bike. Numbers are very similar to wozo which is getting all the recent attention. I have ridden my farley as a 27.5x3.8 , 26x5.0, and now 27.5 x4.5 which is just awesome. I have also ridden one with 29+ which was also quite fun. The bike will do just about anything, even single speed. I have always sneered at the big brands, esp. trek, but I have to say I am VERY impressed with the farley.
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    +1 Wednesday. mine has 68 degree HTA, and has noticeably short chainstays. i've been super happy with mine so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    Don't get TOO hung up on the numbers. I'm used to super slack in front and short out back, but even my 68°; 450mm stay bike manuals fine and jumps great. I really think fat tires can compensate for a couple degrees of slackness on the downs. They eat the trail right up.

    Pat Smage shreds on a Fatback Corvus, and the Pivot Les Fat is marketed that way as well.

    Manualing a 450mm cs bike? You must be a beast.

    Pat Smage could shred on a barstool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Manualing a 450mm cs bike? You must be a beast.

    Pat Smage could shred on a barstool.
    I think it's the high POE hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zowie View Post
    I think it's the high POE hub.
    More likely the pixie dust.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsa101 View Post
    fat bike DJ style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
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    "Fully rigid" isn't a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    suddenly all other bikes named in this thread seem inferior.

    I was thinking something similar, last weekend, while charging down Portal on Saturday and Porcupine Rim on Sunday. My buddy on his Evil Wreckoning was none too pleased when I tried to come around him on Portal. I was tickled the whole day, but especially when linking a series of 3 ~six foot drops on Porc.

    Calling it a fatbike somehow seems wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    I was thinking something similar, last weekend, while charging down Portal on Saturday and Porcupine Rim on Sunday. My buddy on his Evil Wreckoning was none too pleased when I tried to come around him on Portal. I was tickled the whole day, but especially when linking a series of 3 ~six foot drops on Porc.

    Calling it a fatbike somehow seems wrong.
    any rider can pass any rider on any bike depending on skillset so lets not insinuate you are gonna be faster on a fat bike than a wreckoning.....your buddy just needs more skills......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    any rider can pass any rider on any bike depending on skillset so lets not insinuate you are gonna be faster on a fat bike than a wreckoning.....your buddy just needs more skills......

    I didn't give you enough info to go on, so I can understand your perspective.

    But then you weren't there, and don't know either of us, so how can *you* insinuate that he lacks skills? Or that the bike isn't an equalizer? You can't, is the simple answer.

    And I can tell you that he doesn't lack for skill. He rips. He ripped before his Wreckoning, and he rips even more on it. I can rarely stay with him, and rarely for long. Our skills are probably fairly similar, but he spends more time trying to go fast where I typically couldn't care less about speed.

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    I say get a Salsa Bucksaw. Mine handles just as great in the winter as the summer.

    Of course I am in Florida and our winter is just a dustier, less sweaty version of summer.

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    Late to the party....

    I've been riding a rigid Canyon Dude since May last year. I also ride a 26" Specialized Stumpjumper S-works, with carbon wheels. Most of my PRs on anything but long climbs on fire roads are owned by the Dude. The fatbike was supposed to be my 2nd bike, but every time I go to the shed to get the bike for today's ride, I end up on the Dude. Fun and fast, and incredible value for money.

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    Otso Voytek for the win. Whether in fat or + mode it is sweet. Love the narrow BB!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustyduke22 View Post
    Love the narrow BB!

    There's something to be said for a narrow BB in super chunky places.

    There's lots more to be said for FS in those same places! To each their own tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    suddenly all other bikes named in this thread seem inferior.
    Indeed, pure bike porn. No envy at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustyduke22 View Post
    Otso Voytek for the win. Whether in fat or + mode it is sweet. Love the narrow BB!

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    Checked out their website and really like this tire compatibility chart they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    There's something to be said for a narrow BB in super chunky places.

    There's lots more to be said for FS in those same places! To each their own tho...
    narrow Q is also great if the standard wide fat bike Q causes hip and/or knee pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    There's something to be said for a narrow BB in super chunky places.

    There's lots more to be said for FS in those same places! To each their own tho...
    Thanks for that deep insight Mike! What would we do without it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustyduke22 View Post
    Thanks for that deep insight Mike! What would we do without it?

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    From reading your post, I can only assume you'd do something silly like buy a hardtail. Maybe I should be reading your mind?!

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    No love for "FRAMED" Fat bikes? I have an Alaskan Carbon and dig the sh*t out of it. Guys I know and have been dealing with for over 20 yrs got a Framed dealership and I decided to support them.

    I run it rigid with 80mm rims and studded Dillingers in the winter, in the summer/fall I have a Bluto I slap on there and a set of 65mm carbon wheels with 3.8 Hodags and use as a hard tail. Don't regret the purchase at all.

    I know there are better more shreddy bikes out there with quicker geometry but I don't mind the little extra effort it takes to wheel it around tight trails and in the winter all that stuff don't matter any how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank daleview View Post
    Look at the trek farley. I got one last winter and was super impressed with it. I put a Bluto on this spring and it became my light FR bike. Numbers are very similar to wozo which is getting all the recent attention. I have ridden my farley as a 27.5x3.8 , 26x5.0, and now 27.5 x4.5 which is just awesome. I have also ridden one with 29+ which was also quite fun. The bike will do just about anything, even single speed. I have always sneered at the big brands, esp. trek, but I have to say I am VERY impressed with the farley.
    Ummm, the Farley is not really that similar to a Wozo.

    The Farley chainstays are nearly an inch longer than the wozo; they're even longer than a Beargrease. Not to mention, that 197mm rear hub makes for quite a wide load.

    Lile it's namesake (Honzo), the Wozo is a fat capable trail bike. It can run 29 x 3 to 26 x 4.8, with 420mm chainstays it manuals with ease. And if a long chainstay is your thing, the chainstays can be lengthened to 440mm.

    The Voytek and Dude are in the ballpark, Voytek is $$, the Dude ain't available here yet.

    The Fatillac is in a totally different league; I'm working on getting one

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    I also think the Rocky Mountain Suzi Q and Kona Wozo would be fun bikes.

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