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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    What do you find lacking with the ML? How do you think the ICT will help that issue?

    I wouldn't call ML "old tech". Just a bike with a different purpose. Still a great ride.
    Other than being a 40+ pound tank i love it. I don't think the Ict will do anything other then give me a bit of versatility in the fork/rim dept.

    My riding style has changed and I'm doing way less agressive trails. I was looking to build up another set of wheels to trim off some excess weight. Thinking of Mulefut rims and some new hubs. Going tubeless with some 4.0 Jumbo Jims. I figure this should help keep my speed up on the gravel road type trails i ride most of the time.
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    forgot to mention I'm looking to do more bike packing stuff.
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    I'd think going ICT or any other bike is a mistake, then. ICT still has the same Clown Shoe wheels. You won't gain much or any performance, unless you change out the wheels. It's a fine bike, but definitely not worth the $ in the lateral move. Change the wheels to something lighter. Much better bang for buck.

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    "Lateral move" that sums it all up and puts it into perspective. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    Anyone go from a Moonlander to a ICT? Whats your long term impression. I ask because i was thinking of building a lighter set of wheels for my lander. Im wondering if I'm throwing good money at old tech. Don't get me wrong I have loved that bike since 2012.

    I use my Moonlander as a snow bike. I think the steep geo of the Moonlander is great for snow, especially when doing slow-style climbing where balance and stability are crucial. Getting a slacked-out bike would make no sense for me. Would just make the wheel wander more on the climbs. The ICT is a great bike though. If you plan to use it year round might not be a bad option.

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    More Moonlander porn for you all.
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    Nice pics. What kind of bag is that? Can we see some pics of the fit and inside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    Nice pics. What kind of bag is that? Can we see some pics of the fit and inside?
    It is a Revelate frame bag designed for Pugsley and Moonlander. I don't have any close-up pics right now but I can say holds a lot of things. I can even stuff clothing in there when I want to layer-down.
    I like to keep my center of gravity low when I snow bike and keep things off my back because sweating + wind = no fun.
    They are kind of expensive (~$175) but very well-made with large zipper teeth that are not break-prone. I bought mine used from a buddy so I got lucky as far as cost goes.
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    4th winter on my Moonlander, still going strong!Show off your Moonlanders-img_0721.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    4th winter on my Moonlander, still going strong!Click image for larger version. 

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    Kris, that's the point of a Surly! They are heavy, yes, they are tough as a dump truck and will be in service for many years longer than a weight weenie special.
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    Show off your Moonlanders-img_0502.jpg

    Some new parts for my Moonie. 4.0 JJ lite skin tires and a new Revelate seat bag. The tires make a huge difference in how the bike rolls. It sits at 37lbs as pictured. I have some Sun Mule fat rims waiting for hubs also.

    No idea why my pic is like this.
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    5 years old in May, still get tons of use out of my Moonlander and has been my only bike for quite some time now!

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    Surly bikes and the people who ride them make me smile.

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    Who else is getting excited to take their Moonies out for some snow rides? Does anyone else even ride these anymore? I still love my Moonlander and have no plans to "upgrade" to anything else (even though mine is heavily upgraded lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    Who else is getting excited to take their Moonies out for some snow rides? Does anyone else even ride these anymore? I still love my Moonlander and have no plans to "upgrade" to anything else (even though mine is heavily upgraded lol).
    I can't say I am getting excited for snow but once its here I will be riding my Moonlander in it! I still love this bike and it is my go to bike anytime I ride trails, snow or not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizman View Post
    I can't say I am getting excited for snow but once its here I will be riding my Moonlander in it! I still love this bike and it is my go to bike anytime I ride trails, snow or not!
    I am right there with ya. I am not a big fan of the super cold weather but my fat bike has made the winters a bit more tolerable here in cold Wyoming. Still love my Moonlander!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    Who else is getting excited to take their Moonies out for some snow rides? Does anyone else even ride these anymore? I still love my Moonlander and have no plans to "upgrade" to anything else (even though mine is heavily upgraded lol).
    NIce bike. How it weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalpine View Post
    NIce bike. How it weight?
    I got it to around 31 lbs or so with wide 100 m rims and chunky Bud and Lou tires. Not bad considering it was sitting around 37 lbs new.

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    Just picked up a small moonie frame! Woo-hoo!
    Now I'm wading through old threads to plan the build project...

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    Ready for Rock Climbing

    I replaced the stock fork with a Jones Truss fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripower View Post
    I replaced the stock fork with a Jones Truss fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    What are your impressions?
    I like the truss fork. I did not like the flex the stock fork had. It also allows me to swap wheels on my other Jones bikes.

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    Spent a day a raglan pits

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    Hi everyone! I am the new owner of a moonlander -- it's been a blast so far. The previous owner built it up from the frame and has set it up as a single speed, with salsa bars (not sure if aluminum or carbon, but i dont think they're steel) and an Ice Cream Truck fork (150mmx15mm Thru Axle) With pedals she weighs in right at 32lb with clown shoes, even with Bud/Lou on the ICT fork, and stock surly tubes.

    I have calculated that I should be able to shave at least a pound per wheel for summer if I swap to Jumbo Jims, maybe even tubeless. I'm also playing with the idea of a 29+ front wheel (keeping the rear fat) for a versatile gravel bike setup but I don't know enough yet how much of a difference that would make (I have all winter to daydream about it, heh).

    The bike came geared 28x22 (with the Surly NarrowWide 58mm chainring), which was a dream for trail riding (before the snow came) and climbing snowy hills. I'm currently running 28x18 which has been perfect for my winter commutes to work at a reasonable pace on snowy pavement. I'm considering a dingle speed setup, or just throw a light 1x setup on there for some more varied summer conditions.

    A few questions for the moonie crowd:

    - Earlier it was mentioned that someone has a carbon fork on their moonie. My understanding is that the fork would need to be non-tapered, since the moonlander does not have a wide enough steering tube for a tapered fork (did I get that terminology right?). I've had a hard time finding examples of non-tapered carbon forks (ideally, for me, 150mmx15mm width). Curious what everyone else has found that fits the Moonlander (150mm or 135mm).

    - Has anyone tried the bike with a 29" front wheel?

    - Just for fun: Which do you think would be better for an endurance gravel race: 4.0" jumbo jims with light tubes, or 4.8" jumbo jims tubeless? (My assumption is that if I want to go tubeless on 100mm clown shoes, I should go as wide as possible to keep it easy).

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    If the steer tube is 44mm, you can run a tapered steer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    Who else is getting excited to take their Moonies out for some snow rides? Does anyone else even ride these anymore?
    We had early snow north of you here in Saskatchewan, but then crazy warm temps in December have melted it all leaving it an icy mess. The moonie saw several good rides, now it needs studs if I was to ride it more. Hopefully we get more snow soon.

    Even though the Moonlander is old-school it can still teach the new bikes a thing or two. Last weekend me and buddy were out riding, we hit the local singletrack, rode the frozen creek and lake and climbed up the dirt side of an urban hill when we say some guy doing hill repeats on the gravel road riding a 2017 Farley 7. I love those bikes so it pained me to see it religated to a winter road bike. I said to my friend, "let's show him what a fat bike ride is supposed to be!" As Farley dude was descending the gravel road we passed him bombing down the groomed snow that paralleled the road. It's not the bike, it's what you do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    We had early snow north of you here in Saskatchewan, but then crazy warm temps in December have melted it all leaving it an icy mess. The moonie saw several good rides, now it needs studs if I was to ride it more. Hopefully we get more snow soon.

    Even though the Moonlander is old-school it can still teach the new bikes a thing or two. Last weekend me and buddy were out riding, we hit the local singletrack, rode the frozen creek and lake and climbed up the dirt side of an urban hill when we say some guy doing hill repeats on the gravel road riding a 2017 Farley 7. I love those bikes so it pained me to see it religated to a winter road bike. I said to my friend, "let's show him what a fat bike ride is supposed to be!" As Farley dude was descending the gravel road we passed him bombing down the groomed snow that paralleled the road. It's not the bike, it's what you do with it.
    Hehe awesome. Love what these fat bikes can do!

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