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    Sarma Shaman

    Anyone own a Shaman? It seems the Naran wheels get good reviews, but I haven't found any bike reviews. I am looking to go full carbon and they have a black Friday deal on a rolling chassis.

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    Just got my Shaman delivered on cyber Monday.
    So impressed with the quality and overall value that I took advantage of their special pricing and ordered a second bike for my son. With their Black Friday/ cyber Monday pricing on the Shaman "set" ($1262 for frame, fork, handle bars, seat post, carbon wheels) my son will end up with a full carbon bike for well under $2000!
    I've found Dmitry (the owner) very responsive to emails. In fact, you may notice they now offer a GX build. This was in response to my request to have a lower price 1X11 drivetrain on the Shaman. I was also able to further customize mine with grip shift and mechanical brakes. Just had to ask.

    Hope you pulled the trigger on cyber Monday.

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    Nice, glad to hear. I waffled a few times and waited until Monday to order. By that time, mediums were in pre-order status, available December 15th.

    I also ordered a spare set of hubs which arrived from Grand Rapids last night. The engagement on the rear hub is almost instant and the bearings are very smooth.

    I have an xt 1x11 setup waiting to be installed, so I'm hoping to get the frameset before the snow flies!

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    I am also waiting for my Shaman frame. I placed my order on Sunday night, now the wait begins. I'll be taking the parts of my Mukluk and moving them over to the Sarma. I can't wait to get the frame!
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8b5150 View Post

    I also ordered a spare set of hubs which arrived from Grand Rapids last night. The engagement on the rear hub is almost instant and the bearings are very smooth.
    I too think the hubs are super quality, they're a bit noisy when free-wheeling though!
    I want to build up a second wheel set. Which rear hub did you order? It seems all the 170 rear hubs are "pre-order" status...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBRTS View Post
    I too think the hubs are super quality, they're a bit noisy when free-wheeling though!
    I want to build up a second wheel set. Which rear hub did you order? It seems all the 170 rear hubs are "pre-order" status...
    I messaged them through Facebook. Dmitry told me that they may have stock in Grand Rapids, confirmed the next day. I paid through paypal and the hubs arrived the following day (Grand Rapids, MI to Toledo, OH). I haven't decided on what rims to pair with them yet, or if I will just replace my existing hubs on my Moto Boris wheelset. I won't have time to build the wheels until Christmas break anyway.

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    Awaiting my Shaman Build Kit that was purchased during the Black Friday deal....Messaged Dimitry and he reassured me that my purchase would be shipped out as soon as possible. It's been over a week though, so I`m a little excited/nervous about the whole thing...But I`m sure it will be worth the wait.

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    I know what you mean about the nervous excitement. My bike took 7 days from order to shipping. No updates during that time, so I bugged Dmitry a few times and he assured me things were progressing. Part of that delay was due to the changes I requested.

    Once shipped, you'll get a tracking number from EMS China.
    The tracking info will be mostly in Chinese, and the updates will be frustratingly infrequent.
    You can plug the tracking number into USPS tracking and it will actually give you updates in English.

    Once the package leaves China, there may not be any updates until the package clears Customs in the US. This took about 7 days for my bike, with no news during that time. Once my bike cleared customs, USPS attempted delivery the next day.

    Note you will need to sign for the bike at the time of delivery. If you're not there to sign, they won't leave it! I wasn't home the first time, so I had to wait over the weekend to retrieve it from the Post Office.

    So basically two weeks from order placement/payment to delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBRTS View Post
    I too think the hubs are super quality, they're a bit noisy when free-wheeling though!
    Noisy hubs scare the bears away.

    I got mine about a month ago and am loving it. A few minor issues... I bought the Bluto version and the spacers around the front hub are quite prone to falling off when mounting/unmounting the front wheel. I really hope I don't lose them.

    Otherwise I'm pretty impressed with build quality and design. So far I've installed some Next SL cranks, a dropper post, and will throw on some studded tires as soon as they arrive.

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    [QUOTE=Vancity;12350417

    Otherwise I'm pretty impressed with build quality and design. So far I've installed some Next SL cranks, a dropper post, and will throw on some studded tires as soon as they arrive.[/QUOTE]

    Which dropper post did you go with , and did you route it internally?

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    My Shaman frame comes this week. Can't wait to get the parts transferred over to it and put it thru it's paces. I hope you all get what you are waiting for from Sarma soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBRTS View Post
    Which dropper post did you go with , and did you route it internally?
    X-Fusion Hilo 100, only because it was easy to source locally and quickly. The Shaman's 27.2 seatpost size is a little uncommon so the choices are limited.

    Yes, I did run it internally, though I did have a lot of trouble removing one of the port covers on the Shaman. It was stuck in pretty good and I eventually got it to move by sticking a hex key through the cable port and wedging the cover off. I checked all the other ports and of course they were fine, it was just my luck that the only one I really needed was troublesome.

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    I too, am waiting for the rolling chassis I purchased on Black Friday. I am excited to build/ride it! Majack, I am curious what was the time frame from when you placed your order till it physically shipped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HES View Post
    I too, am waiting for the rolling chassis I purchased on Black Friday. I am excited to build/ride it! Majack, I am curious what was the time frame from when you placed your order till it physically shipped?
    I placed my order on Sunday night before cyber monday. And I just got an email stating the frame was shipped on this past Sunday. So all in all it has been a week for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HES View Post
    I too, am waiting for the rolling chassis I purchased on Black Friday. I am excited to build/ride it! Majack, I am curious what was the time frame from when you placed your order till it physically shipped?
    I finally got a reply today that stated "we shall send it soon. Sorry for the delay."

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    I ordered a set of carbon Naran wheels on black Friday. Took a week to get shipped out. Just got notification they are in NY.
    I know it's hard to wait but your stuff will get here.

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    My frame comes today. I'll be moving parts over tonight and trying to get out for a ride this weekend.
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    That's awesome Majack. Let us know your thoughts on overall quality and ride. Mine still has not shipped. Order was placed two weeks today.

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    Got my wheels yesterday. Rode them last night and wow what a difference! Felt like a different bike. I really like them so far!
    Looking forward to a review of what you think about it.
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    I'm happy that people seem to be getting their orders but a little annoyed about my situation. I`m still waiting for a guestimate on when my frame and wheels might be shipped (other than "soon"). A tracking number would put my worries at ease or a simple "hey we're on backorder..." but I've only really heard "we shall send it soon. Very sorry for delay." on the 8th.

    Hope it's all worth the wait! Anybody got some photos at least?

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    After a positive experience with my first order, I'm in the same boat with my second order. Just hope it arrives in time for Christmas for my son.

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    Yesterday during my 45 mile ride with the new Naran wheelset. Unusually warm here this time of year.

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    I ordered a frameset/wheels etc and a Bluto with extra front wheel on cyber monday and was told right away that everything was backorder and expected to ship on 12/16/15. I just hope it is here and built by Xmas so that I can ride with my son's on the Fatboy 24's I ordered for them. Lots of new fat fun in my household this year.

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    Sarma Shaman-s4022134.jpgSarma Shaman-s4022135.jpg

    Well I got my Shaman built. The build went well with the transferring of the parts off my Salsa Mukluk. The only hang up was in the rear wheel. I have I9's with thru axles and that makes them 177mm wide. This was fine in my mukluk, but not in the Shaman. The Shaman is only 168mm per my measurements, so I had to spread the rear stays open to make the wheel fit. But the problem with that is I have no free space to move my brake caliper. The caliper was resting on the rotor tight with no more room to move it. So I took one of my other QR I9 adapters and put it in my drill press and drilled out the hole big enough to fit the thru axle for the Shaman. It is right at 170mm and I'm still 2mm over but I'm far better off then how it was when I started. The wheel slips into the frame much better and I feel better about how well the wheel is in the bike now.

    Here is my build spec:

    Frame: Sarma Shaman Medium
    Fork: Rock Shox Bluto 100mm
    Headset: CaneCreek 40
    Handlebar: Syntace Vector Carbon
    Stem: Syncros FL
    Grips: Ergon GA2
    Wheels: HED Big Deal w/ I9 Hubs
    Tires: 45NRTH Vanhelgas
    Brakes: Shimano XTR Trails
    Cranks: RaceFace Next SL w/ RF BB
    Bash ring: Straitline 32-34T
    Chainring: Absolute Black 32T Oval
    Pedals: Shimano XTR
    Chain: Wipermann Black Edition 10 spd
    Shifter: Shimano XT 10spd
    Rear der: Shimano XT Shadow 10spd w/ Wolf Tooth Goat Link
    Cassette: Shimano XT 10spd 11-36 w/ Wolf Tooth 40T GC and Wolf Tooth 16T cog
    Saddle: Fizik Tundra 2 Carbon rail
    Seatpost: Syntace P6 HiFlex
    Seatpost clamp: Box Flip
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    Nice Build Majack. Mine will be similar build but going rigid, with 80mm Naran's, 1 x 10 XO drivetrain, SLX brakes ,RF Turbine Crankset and Husker Du's. Should be a fun bike. Let us know how you like the ride.

    Abbeytrails, I got shipping confirmation today. It looks like it shipped Priority Express International so with any luck I should see this week.

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    Gents, how is the rear for tire clearance? I'm on the fence about ordering one, but the aluminum frame will accommodate 4.fat tires, which is a requirement. I would be running 80mm rims.

    Skeered to order the Shaman without knowing.
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    4.7 tires (bulldozer) on 80mm rims no problem and still room for bigger, with 1X drivedrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBRTS View Post
    4.7 tires (bulldozer) on 80mm rims no problem and still room for bigger, with 1X drivedrain.
    I would like nothing more than to find out that my Shaman will fit Jumbo Jim 4.8's and Juggernaut Pro 4.5's on 80mm Naran rims for snow use. Right now I am planning for 4" tires until I can test for myself.

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    Love the new Sarma!!

    Quote Originally Posted by n8b5150 View Post
    Anyone own a Shaman? It seems the Naran wheels get good reviews, but I haven't found any bike reviews. I am looking to go full carbon and they have a black Friday deal on a rolling chassis.

    Nothing but good things to say about my new Sarma frame. Shipped out next day and to my door in Alberta in 2 weeks (minus the Canada Customs time). Frame was packed well and I was thrilled with the quality. Finally finished my build and now have a nice 23 lbs fatty. Had to dial in a Hope Fatsno rear hub to fit the 170 TA but other than that, easy enough build up. Super happy with how it turned out.

    - China Carbon 80mm wheels
    - Hope Fatsno rear 170 TA hub
    - Fat Back carbon fork
    - Race Face Turbine Cinch cranks (28T)
    - Formula T1 brakes
    - X9 shifter
    - Race face NEXT bars/ post
    - Race Face saddle
    - One up 42t 1x10 cog expander
    -45 NRTH D4 with grip studs
    -Ergon grips

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Gents, how is the rear for tire clearance? I'm on the fence about ordering one, but the aluminum frame will accommodate 4.fat tires, which is a requirement. I would be running 80mm rims.

    Skeered to order the Shaman without knowing.
    I have Vanhelgas in mine on HED 85mm wheels and 4.0 is as large as it will take. Sarma says a 4.3 tire would fit, but I wouldn't want to run the risk of tire rub.

    The Vortex Alum frame will take the big meats per the website.
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    Still waiting for an eta here. Do any of you have extra 10mm QR 135mm end caps for the front Sarma hub?
    Last edited by n8b5150; 12-15-2015 at 10:10 AM.

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    Got my confirmation this morning that it was shipped out on the 12th....Odd but I`ll take it! Getting excited now....FWIW, I`ll be rolling some Vanhelgas on the Naran 80mm wheels along with some SLX goodness. Still deciding on a new crankset because I just can`t bring myself to put an X5 on there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCohen View Post
    Nothing but good things to say about my new Sarma frame. Shipped out next day and to my door in Alberta in 2 weeks (minus the Canada Customs time). Frame was packed well and I was thrilled with the quality. Finally finished my build and now have a nice 23 lbs fatty. Had to dial in a Hope Fatsno rear hub to fit the 170 TA but other than that, easy enough build up. Super happy with how it turned out.

    - China Carbon 80mm wheels

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    Nice bike.

    Very curious about the details of the China Carbon wheels. I'm a roadie and I've had 3-4 wheelsets and I don't mind getting one for my fatty.

    Care to share the specs + weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBRTS View Post
    4.7 tires (bulldozer) on 80mm rims no problem and still room for bigger, with 1X drivedrain.
    Can you post pix of the bike showing the clearance? I would be highly disappointed to not be able to use my Bud/Lou on 80's.

    Quote Originally Posted by RENCRN8 View Post
    I would like nothing more than to find out that my Shaman will fit Jumbo Jim 4.8's and Juggernaut Pro 4.5's on 80mm Naran rims for snow use. Right now I am planning for 4" tires until I can test for myself.
    Keep us posted on your build! Anticipation... *tips the Heinz Ketchup bottle*


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    Sure! Got them through a contact who deals with XMIPlay in China. 80mm/ 32 hole. 660g per rim. They use T700 Carbon. Got them for 500 bucks CAD for the pair. Not shabby. Pretty good bang for buck as far as I am concerned.

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    Anyone gotten any more updates on shipping? The December 15 availability date has come and gone with no updates for me. I have emailed and FB messaged with no reply (which happened to be very fast before I paid). Still have my fingers crossed....

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    Check out the pictures I posted on the Sarma Vortex page. MY HUBS CAME IN! Going to lace them up with Mulefut 80SLs at work tmr. I am getting excited for my build.

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    I got an email response from Dmitry saying so sorry for delay. All will be shipped out this week.
    That was on Tuesday. No confirmation yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBRTS View Post
    I got an email response from Dmitry saying so sorry for delay. All will be shipped out this week.
    That was on Tuesday. No confirmation yet.
    What did you order? I haven't even gotten a response after multiple various attempts. Frustrating.

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    Ordered the Shaman "set" - frame,fork,wheels,handlebar,etc size Large.

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    Mine just showed up...Box looked a little rough so I was worried. Opened it up and they did an excellent job packaging it up. Wish I had better mechanic skills because I`d be out riding it by now.

    What is the best way to set these wheels up tubeless? My LBS Suggested a strip of Scotch Tough Clear Duct Tape instead of Gorilla Tape.

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    Gorilla tape is fine. I found one layer was enough.
    Be prepared for a battle getting the tires on and off. They're really tight!
    Once on, mine were inflatable to 20psi with no sealant. Slowly deflated overnight so I then added some Stans.
    BTW I'm still waiting for shipping notification for my son's Christmas present bike ordered on Cyber Monday.

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    Received my frameset today which included 80mm carbon wheels. Mine came with tubeless rim strips and valves. Overall, impressed with initial quality for $$. Perfect bike for midwest trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HES View Post
    Received my frameset today which included 80mm carbon wheels. Mine came with tubeless rim strips and valves. Overall, impressed with initial quality for $$. Perfect bike for midwest trails.
    HES, where in the Midwest are you? I have a funny story if you're in Michigan, specifically the Detroit area!

    As for the tubeless setup, I'm not looking forward to putting these tires on. It will be like me trying to put my jeans on after thanksgiving...

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    Abbeytrails, I am from the metro area. White Lake. Humor me please.

    I am curious, what cranks are people installing on their Shaman? Options seem limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HES View Post
    I am curious, what cranks are people installing on their Shaman? Options seem limited.
    Limited how? I put on a Next SL crankset using the Race Face BSA30 BB.

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    I have a Turbine Cinch crank waiting for the frameset. Between Race Face, Truvativ, Sram, and others, there are plenty of options for a 170mm spaced crank and threaded bottom bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HES View Post
    Abbeytrails, I am from the metro area. White Lake. Humor me please.

    I am curious, what cranks are people installing on their Shaman? Options seem limited.
    I sent you a personal message, but the morale of the story is that the person who dropped off your frame also dropped mine off. I guess when they were given the packages, all the delivery people had a bet as to what was in the boxes....Most of the people thought it was a children's tea set even though the paperwork on the box clearly stated it was bike related. Anyways, I thought it was pretty cool that someone only a few miles away was getting an awesome xmas gift just like me....even though I'm a horrible mechanic and can`t seem to figure out what cranks I want to put on my bike. Toying with having Sarma ship me one of their cranks. Seem super light and reasonable....thoughts?

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    Glad to hear people are getting their stuff and things are looking good. Conversely, I haven't been this frustrated with post sale customer service since I flew Frontier Airlines. Before they got my money I got a response to all my questions almost immediately, since I sent money they have blatantly ignored many Facebook messages and emails with zero responses. It better be damn worth it....

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    Keep in mind it is the holiday season. Allow for a little more delay in everything you buy this time of the year. If they are as small an operation as they portray themselves to be, they are probably swamped worth sales and clawing to find family time.

    Your order may very well be delayed on transit. The entire world is.

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