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    salsa...where is it? I can't wait any longer ;)

    Come on salsa, you tease us with the squishy prototypes....then you finally say will be putting them into production....but when!
    When can I buy one!!

    I have been saving my bonus $$ all year...can't wait! I sure hope there is a carbon version....mmmmmmm
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    I'll bet you a dollar they release a fs 29+ first
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    I'll take that bet
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    They will be released in october.

    Salsa Mukluk 3 in red and black:
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    Surly Nate 4″
    Surly Rolling Darryl 80mm
    Avid BB7 Black
    SRAM X5/X7 med SRAM X5 fatbike krank
    Updated geometry to handle 100mm suspension
    New Salsa Bearpaw tapered alu fork

    Salsa Beargrease Carbon:
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    Weight 13,5kg
    45NRTH Dillinger 4″
    Surly Rolling Darryl w. cutouts
    Sram X9 med SRAM X9 fatbike crank
    Avid BB7 black
    Front- and rear thru-axles
    Frame weighs 1245 grams and 700 grams without fork (M)

    Salsa Beargrease XX1 Carbon:
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    Weight 11,5kg
    45NRTH Dillinger 4″
    Surly Rolling Darryl 80mm w. cutouts
    Sram XX
    SRAM XX1 med custom Salsa SRAM XX1 krank
    Front- and rear thru-axles
    Frame weighs 1245 grams and 700 grams without fork (M)
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    ^^ uhhh those are the latest offerings however without squish. Shark is referring to the Full suss FAT prototypes Salsa has had in their grubby lill hands for over a yr awaiting a major fork manuf to produce one for it.

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    Oh, didnt get that. Need to up my reading skills a bit it seems.
    Still nice bikes though!

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    Wasn't there a rumour that Rock Shox was bringing out a fat bike fork later this year based on the reba/revelation. That would probably be the best mass produced result for FB sus forks so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybelline View Post
    Oh, didnt get that. Need to up my reading skills a bit it seems.
    Still nice bikes though!
    no worries as they are squishy just not quite as squishy.

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyjose View Post
    Wasn't there a rumour that Rock Shox was bringing out a fat bike fork later this year based on the reba/revelation. That would probably be the best mass produced result for FB sus forks so far.
    yessir there is/was some chat of it but i've heard nuttin as of late.

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    Until Rock Shox releases that fat fork there will be no FS Salsa fat bike. We are pretty close to Interbike so it will either happen shortly or likely not at all this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    I'll bet you a dollar they release a fs 29+ first
    Both projects have the same issue - no production fork [from a major brand in North America] that will work with those rims/tires.

    The 29+ is close, but would require some mods to both RS or Fox forks to work safely.

    Although I am a big 29+ fan and would like to see a FS rig from Salsa fat bikes are far more numerous and if I was at RS or Fox I'd work on that project before the 29+ one.

    If you don't mind the funky fatbike standards a fat Salsa FS bike will probably be 29+ compatible. You just won't be able to use "normal" MTB hubs.
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    I think getting the fork to market is really the limit. They're likely riding a prototype FS fat bike and fork to get the frame 100% ready to ship when forks are readily available. It'll likely be their next big bike to make you trade in your year or two old fat bike for a new one while they can keep the rest of their fleet the same. That's likely when they'll add the Powderkeg tandem as well. Hopefully that goes FS before it hits the market.

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    Yes no doubt that they are waiting on the fat fork. I'm sure they have it planned to release it all at the same time. Will be exciting.
    I am curious how the future rockshox fat fork will perform. Going to be hard to beat the lefty, I love my fat lefty on the 9zero7 right now.

    Just need the rear sus.
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    Soooo let me get this straight- the super duper carbon awesomeness that's gonna change the world and is definitely 100% better than trek... weighs the same as the new trek.

    13.5kg=29.75 pounds. And since the frame is the same, the only thing that's knocking off the remaining 3.5 pounds on the super light version (11.5kg= roughly 25.5 pounds) is the components.

    So what salsa has managed to build is a carbon frame that weighs about as much as an aluminum frame. But costs 3 times more. Bravo, salsa. Bravo.
    Last edited by buckfiddious; 08-15-2013 at 09:22 AM. Reason: math was off.

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    Yeah, but TREK sucks...so blah.

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    I think it is funny that I read all of buckfiddious's posts in Benders voice.
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    I don't understand that... how did the aluminum 2013 Beargrease weight less than the new carbon?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Until Rock Shox releases that fat fork there will be no FS Salsa fat bike. We are pretty close to Interbike so it will either happen shortly or likely not at all this year.
    Why not go with this?
    "Ride what you love, love what you ride"

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    I don't understand that... how did the aluminum 2013 Beargrease weight less than the new carbon?
    Because carbon isn't that fantastic a material perhaps?

    Seriously, it might be that a first generation carbon fatbike has absolutely no optimization yet- it's probably overbuilt as hell.

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    Cone on Bender! We don't care about the hard tails.... Lol
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    I agree with Shark, Salsa..... just build it, it WILL sell !

    The Carver TransFat is great but is also Fat $$$.
    A Fatback'd Lefty for who life IS a Beach

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    Yeah, but TREK sucks...so blah.
    Trek stands behind their products and doesn't sue everyone...unlike some other large bike companies.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Cone on Bender! We don't care about the hard tails.... Lol
    Bite my shiny metal hardtail.

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    Haha awesome, I love futurama so much.
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    Duggus I see a front derailleur on that carbon bike pictured. I thought the super light carbon Beargrease was going to be XX1 style. I would say "parts spec" would answer your question.

    But yeah aluminum frames with hydroformed tubes seem to be getting rather light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybelline View Post
    They will be released in october.

    Salsa Mukluk 3 in red and black:
    Name:  Mukluk3 2014.png
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    Surly Nate 4″
    Surly Rolling Darryl 80mm
    Avid BB7 Black
    SRAM X5/X7 med SRAM X5 fatbike krank
    Updated geometry to handle 100mm suspension
    New Salsa Bearpaw tapered alu fork

    Salsa Beargrease Carbon:
    Name:  beargreasexx1 (Mobile).jpg
Views: 1265
Size:  38.5 KB
    Weight 13,5kg
    45NRTH Dillinger 4″
    Surly Rolling Darryl w. cutouts
    Sram X9 med SRAM X9 fatbike crank
    Avid BB7 black
    Front- and rear thru-axles
    Frame weighs 1245 grams and 700 grams without fork (M)

    Salsa Beargrease XX1 Carbon:
    Name:  beargrease (Mobile).jpg
Views: 1264
Size:  36.6 KB
    Weight 11,5kg
    45NRTH Dillinger 4″
    Surly Rolling Darryl 80mm w. cutouts
    Sram XX
    SRAM XX1 med custom Salsa SRAM XX1 krank
    Front- and rear thru-axles
    Frame weighs 1245 grams and 700 grams without fork (M)
    Hmmm, frame weights seem off a bit. 700 grams = a 1.5 lb frame and 545 for the fork which is 1.2 lbs. The 1245 grams for the frame only would be more realistic. The Salsa carbon bike was at a LBS and they were told it was a 2.9 lb. frame.
    Maybe the 700 grams is for the fork only. The Carver carbon fork is 565 - 570 grams with a carbon steer tube. I have one and the weights are acurate.

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