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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    Salsa Cycles introduces there New Full-Suspension Fat Bike at Sea Otter Classic!

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    My wife is going to kill me. I thought I wanted the Blizzard. Nope.

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    Well blow me down! (in my best popeye voice)

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    Nicely executed, IMO.

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    full squish fat bike? so not really necessary in snow or sand..

    on the trail, will the fat tires provide meaningful benefit over a traditional tyred FS bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogman View Post
    full squish fat bike? so not really necessary in snow or sand..

    on the trail, will the fat tires provide meaningful benefit over a traditional tyred FS bike?
    yes necessary and looooooong over due.

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmattcor View Post
    I'm all in!
    dammit i wanted to raise!!

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    I think we're past that point now....

    Quote Originally Posted by boogman View Post
    full squish fat bike? so not really necessary in snow or sand..

    on the trail, will the fat tires provide meaningful benefit over a traditional tyred FS bike?

    Sweetness, bit surprised they didn't go for more tire clearance, wonder if they are offering frame-only?

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    I think its great news they designed the bike around 4" tires. Their intended purpose looks to be more all purpose trail (off trail?) than powder (as with the other front suspension bikes released today). This tells me a major fatbike manufacturer is staying committed to 170/7mm rear spacing so they'll keep making hubs that size and more 4" tires. My new mukluk is not obsolete!

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    This could be a super fun bike set up as a 29+ also I imagine.
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    now i do not know, what i want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    This could be a super fun bike set up as a 29+ also I imagine.
    it opens up pandoras box so to speak with all sorts of options soon to blossom.

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    The gold rush color is quite sexy....

    In case anyone scrolled right past the other cool link in there:

    Salsa Cycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogman View Post
    full squish fat bike? so not really necessary in snow or sand..

    on the trail, will the fat tires provide meaningful benefit over a traditional tyred FS bike?
    On packed dirt/rock trails I typically ride at home and on my travels to Sedona/Moab I'd say no.

    I can see it being useful for folks who encounter a bunch of varied conditions like soft sand....loose gravel and then proper techy MTBing.

    and for folks that want to ride a fat bike just because.

    A big chunk of the "bike thing" is not about need or optimization it's about being stoked about something.

    With a FS fatty I could ride a bunch of terrain on a fatbike that in the past I would have been trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

    Like a lot of bike innovations time will tell what works and what doesn't. There may be a role for the FS fatty we haven't really thought of yet.

    I'm glad to see the FS fatty come to realization in a production package from a major brand.

    Let 'em roll and let's see what happens...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    now i do not know, what i want.
    Ha, neither do I and I am totally confused. I thought I wanted a cheap simple fat bike for dorking around on, and now I'm lusting after full suspension fatties and all sorts of swanky new parts.

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    So what's the guess on weight of bucksaw 1...37 lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    This could be a super fun bike set up as a 29+ also I imagine.
    I wonder if Rockshox took that into account when designing the fork. 4" fatbike tires are a hair under 29" while 29+ tires are considerably larger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I wonder if Rockshox took that into account when designing the fork. 4" fatbike tires are a hair under 29" while 29+ tires are considerably larger.
    Aren't the borealis and RM front suspension bikes specd for 5" tires? If they fit, a 29+ should fit too right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I wonder if Rockshox took that into account when designing the fork. 4" fatbike tires are a hair under 29" while 29+ tires are considerably larger.
    Good point, I sure hope so
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    So much going on today i don't know what to read i don't know what to read i don't know what to read!!!!!
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    Recently I have been trying to decide if I wanted a fatbike or a new full suspension bike. I guess I can have both.

    This would probably be great where I do most of my riding with the variety of terrain I encounter.
    Flotilla or Buffet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yakkoTDI View Post
    Recently I have been trying to decide if I wanted a fatbike or a new full suspension bike. I guess I can have both.

    This would probably be great where I do most of my riding with the variety of terrain I encounter.
    having a 2nd wheelset would answer this.

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    man, these are so rad!

    but will anybody buy the BS2 when the BS1 comes with SO MUCH better components for $1000 more? Reverb, xx1, etc?

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    wow, that bikes looks like so much fun!

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    I can see everyone owning two fat bikes one 5" for float full rigid and this thing for everything else.

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    Re: Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    I'm glad they went with a reasonable tire/rim size instead of taking the size queen route. Nates on Marge Lites are great for the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    I'm glad they went with a reasonable tire/rim size instead of taking the size queen route. Nates on Marge Lites are great for the trail.
    Agreed, for this bike the 3.8's seem like the way to go. Lots of fun, still fat, but fast. Dannngit I really want to ride one of these but will probably never get the chance. Maybe at a group ride, but too rich for my blood. This thing is seriously a stable-killer... and with all the tire options available now. Bike porn right here.
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    If this could be run 29+ ... wowzer.

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    How many new bikes in 3 years is too many? I don't know that my wife would have the same answer I would. I bet if I painted it the same color as a previous bike she would never know.

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    the great thing is that it's a great suspension design, too. Not only are they one of the first, they didn't half-ass it either.

    Not sure I'm in the market for such a beast, but they really couldn't have done a better job for this niche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    How many new bikes in 3 years is too many? I don't know that my wife would have the same answer I would. I bet if I painted it the same color as a previous bike she would never know.
    Rent a storage shed and HIDE IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Rent a storage shed and HIDE IT!
    i possess such a shed

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    lol classic
    I have specifically not upgraded anything major (aside from forks) on the bike since I bought it....just for this opportunity.
    Who-ever has a frame-only option first is going to get my cash Salsa, 11nine, or...?....

    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    How many new bikes in 3 years is too many? I don't know that my wife would have the same answer I would. I bet if I painted it the same color as a previous bike she would never know.

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    Man I am missing my nap time, this is all just to exciting!!

    What is really cool is the lack of bickering!!

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    Will the proto be at sea otter? If so, can someone weight it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Man I am missing my nap time, this is all just to exciting!!

    What is really cool is the lack of bickering!!
    Just wait, the WalGoose-steppers will be over to complain about the price any minute.

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    It looks great and I know I am in the minority but I will wait till next year when they widen out the stays.

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    Total weight?
    Geometry chart?
    Frame only option? Price?
    Frame weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Man I am missing my nap time, this is all just to exciting!!

    What is really cool is the lack of bickering!!
    Amen to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post
    It looks great and I know I am in the minority but I will wait till next year when they widen out the stays.
    Look what happens in gcappy's kitchen!!


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    I really happy Salsa came out with this bike and I hope it sells well. I have had a 6" travel FS fatty for over 3 years and it is really great in the dirt or when there is wet rocks and roots out here on the east coast. Not the best at everything but the best all around bike I own for every condition. Plus it is a blast on the down hills, it just eats up everything.

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    bravo bravo bravo, well done Salsa. Should be able to run the bigger tire in front maby. 27.5+ would be an awesome summer option too.
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    Fat bike suspension to bring peace to the forums.....who'da thunk it?



    Today is a good day! I am taking the fatty out for a ride to celebrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Man I am missing my nap time, this is all just to exciting!!

    What is really cool is the lack of bickering!!

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    That frame would look nice with a set of 50mm carbon hoops wrapped in 27.5 x 3.25 rubber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich View Post
    the great thing is that it's a great suspension design, too. Not only are they one of the first, they didn't half-ass it either.

    Not sure I'm in the market for such a beast, but they really couldn't have done a better job for this niche.
    exactly, spot on as the brits say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    Look what happens in gcappy's kitchen!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post
    How did you get past my dogs for that picture?
    fed them the cat

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    fed them the cat
    How did you know my dogs ate my cat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post
    How did you know my dogs ate my cat?
    yutes left the doggie door open for all to see

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    If any of you are at Sea Otter Classic this weekend, the Bucksaw models will be able to be seen from time to time at our booth, #443 (Endless Cycles & Salsa teamed up for a NorCal booth at Sea Otter this year....) The bike has been there for a while today - but Mike ("Kid") will be having it out for a while for media stuff at various times. I haven't been there to check it out myself, but it sounds like it's pretty damn cool.... I too, like the orange/gold look!
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    So - word is the Bucksaw 1 (at Sea Otter, with Carbon Rims) is right about 30 lbs. Figure a little more with Marge Lights...
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    Looking forward to seeing geometry. The HTA looks slack... I sure hope that its closer to 67 degrees than 69. It also looks like they kept the chainstays pretty short for a FS fatbike. I bet it's gonna be a hell of a fun bike to ride.

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    These look great. Nice job Salsa.

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    If I say it often enough it might come true..

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    ^ negative ghost rider....YOU need this bike.

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    Can't wait till my frame shows up, so I can put a Lefty on it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Can't wait till my frame shows up, so I can put a Lefty on it....

    That will be awesome! I will probably have to drive over there to see it.

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    'Scuse my stupidity, are the Bucksaw's TA the same as the carbon Beargrease?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sisu View Post
    'Scuse my stupidity, are the Bucksaw's TA the same as the carbon Beargrease?


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    According to the specs yes but the front hub is now 150mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Can't wait till my frame shows up, so I can put a Lefty on it....

    That's my plan, if I can get the frame separately

    Edit....yes, I guess it'll be possible, from the bottom of their blog comments:

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    Kid Riemer | April 11th, 2014

    Lucas - Bucksaw 1 and the Frame Only option will be the Blue color. Bucksaw 2 will be the Gold color.

    Stefan - No, the bike is not 29+ compatible. The Bluto fork can fit it, but not the rear end of the Bluto. The difference in outer tire diameter from 3.8” fatbike tires to 29+ tires is too large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATBScott View Post
    So - word is the Bucksaw 1 (at Sea Otter, with Carbon Rims) is right about 30 lbs. Figure a little more with Marge Lights...
    That is pretty darned good!

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    Bucksaw back for public viewing @ Sea Otter

    Just got word that the blue Bucksaw just landed back at booth #443 and will be there for the next few hours...
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    You are required to take stay and yolk clearance close-up pictures. Bonus points for including a ruler in the shots.

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    What's the chainstay length on the Bucksaw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8R View Post
    What's the chainstay length on the Bucksaw?
    Using the rim diameter to scale off of the above image, I'm coming up with about 19.5"

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    Love at first sight! This bike is going to rip on the tore up Jeep trails and rocky/loose routes here on the east slope of the Cascades! Going to start seeing Fatty's in allot more places now!!

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    Clearances

    Here are a few shots with the clearance(s) on the tires of the Bucksaw... Bluto fork has a ton of clearance, upper stay clearance looks decent, lower looks like even more...
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    Anyone ever get the actual a-c of the Bluto?

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    I've heard a few places around that it is 483mm... Can't say that I have seen that officially yet tho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATBScott View Post
    I've heard a few places around that it is 483mm... Can't say that I have seen that officially yet tho...
    @ 80mm travel without sag?

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    Borealis didn't know it, but they were making a Salsa FS fatty promo video.
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    The part where they can't make the turn because fatbike gyroscopic force is dragging them out and they lock up the brakes is classic.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    I was actually looking at buying a Horsethief and an Ice Cream Truck this fall. Looks like Salsa just saved me over 3k by combining them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    The part where they can't make the turn because fatbike gyroscopic force is dragging them out and they lock up the brakes is classic.
    perhaps thats the riders style? ala motorcross.

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    Look crazy fun to ride, can't wait to demo.

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    Anyone know the tube length for a large sized frame??

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    Hi All,

    Tim K and Mike R (Kid) from Salsa Cycles will have the Bucksaw models at our Booth #443 at the following times this weekend:

    Saturday: 10AM, Noon, 2PM

    Sunday: 10AM, Noon

    They'll be there to talk about the bike(s) and answer any questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post
    Using the rim diameter to scale off of the above image, I'm coming up with about 19.5"
    Man, that's a shame. Anything over 17" is way too long for me.

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    What are the chances that this will be a carbon bike in 2015 a la Beargrease?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8R View Post
    Man, that's a shame. Anything over 17" is way too long for me.
    How do you expect them to get 17" of chainstay length with 26" rims, 3.8" tires, and a suspension pivot in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post
    How do you expect them to get 17" of chainstay length with 26" rims, 3.8" tires, and a suspension pivot in there?
    With



    If specialized can design a 16.9" chainstay 29er that still has gobs of clearance back there, then Salsa can make normal-sized chainstays for this bike...if they choose to do the engineering (like probably not BB30, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post
    How do you expect them to get 17" of chainstay length with 26" rims, 3.8" tires, and a suspension pivot in there?
    New math?
    Flotilla or Buffet.

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    Lenz bikes have room for big 2.4"+ 29er rubber and 16.7" CS.

    The OD of those 29er tires should be larger than a 3.8" tire on a 26" rim.
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    Lenz fatmoth = 18" chainstay......lunchbox and behemoth are the only ones i see with 16..75 chainstays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    Lenz fatmoth = 18" chainstay......lunchbox and behemoth are the only ones i see with 16..75 chainstays
    and to boot custom so far away from the mass produced units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    and to boot custom so far away from the mass produced units.
    Indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    Lenz fatmoth = 18" chainstay......lunchbox and behemoth are the only ones i see with 16..75 chainstays


    Yes. That's why I said 2.4"+ 29er rubber not 29+ rubber. I think there is room for a DH style 2.5" 29er tire in there on the 16.7" CS Lenz bikes.

    That's comparable to a 3.8" 26er tire height wise if not a bit taller than the fat tire.

    The FS Salsa can't fit 29+ so no point going there and hoping for short CS.
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    I agree Vik, the salsa wont have the short stays like the Lenz but I hope they are not too long. So far I have enjoyed the split pivot bikes I have tried and hope the bucksaw is as dialed in as the others.

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    I brought an image into a CAD program, my calculations show 17.6" chainstays on the Bucksaw. That's assuming the Nate on ML has a 29" diameter. I'll bet they are in the 17.5" range plus or minus a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    I agree Vik, the salsa wont have the short stays like the Lenz but I hope they are not too long. So far I have enjoyed the split pivot bikes I have tried and hope the bucksaw is as dialed in as the others.
    I haven't tried a Split Pivot bike, but if there is one guy I trust with suspension design it's Dave W.

    As far as CS is concerned other Salsa SP bikes are in the ~17.2" range.

    It should also be noted Lenz gets the uber short CS on dedicated 1x frames. So no front derailleur allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I brought an image into a CAD program, my calculations show 17.6" chainstays on the Bucksaw.
    Could be, that is t i t e tight! Good work.

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    I did it again for a screen capture and using the aligned dimension function, this time it came out to exactly 17.5". Of course camera angle, where I pick line start and end points and the exact size of the tire all could contribute to that estimate being off, but not by too far I don't think.

    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike-capture-20140412-210110.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I did it again for a screen capture and using the aligned dimension function, this time it came out to exactly 17.5". Of course camera angle, where I pick line start and end points and the exact size of the tire all could contribute to that estimate being off, but not by too far I don't think.

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    17.5" is not crazy talk for a FS bike with fat tires and a front derailleur option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I did it again for a screen capture and using the aligned dimension function, this time it came out to exactly 17.5". Of course camera angle, where I pick line start and end points and the exact size of the tire all could contribute to that estimate being off, but not by too far I don't think.

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    Thanks man! seems reasonable to me, cant wait to ride it!

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    I'm sure the optimum alternate wheel size for this frame hasn't yet been invented. But it will be soon enough. 650b+ is right around the corner. The ability to go fat and semi-fat will make a quiver killer for sure.
    I don't know what trail we're on, but at least it's getting dark

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    Yep,regular 29'er,semi-fat and fat all in one.Sign me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregB406 View Post
    I'm sure the optimum alternate wheel size for this frame hasn't yet been invented. But it will be soon enough. 650b+ is right around the corner. The ability to go fat and semi-fat will make a quiver killer for sure.
    Yep, and should work in any existing fat bike frame. Bring it!

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