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    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post
    How did you know my dogs ate my cat?
    yutes left the doggie door open for all to see

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    If any of you are at Sea Otter Classic this weekend, the Bucksaw models will be able to be seen from time to time at our booth, #443 (Endless Cycles & Salsa teamed up for a NorCal booth at Sea Otter this year....) The bike has been there for a while today - but Mike ("Kid") will be having it out for a while for media stuff at various times. I haven't been there to check it out myself, but it sounds like it's pretty damn cool.... I too, like the orange/gold look!
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    So - word is the Bucksaw 1 (at Sea Otter, with Carbon Rims) is right about 30 lbs. Figure a little more with Marge Lights...
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    Looking forward to seeing geometry. The HTA looks slack... I sure hope that its closer to 67 degrees than 69. It also looks like they kept the chainstays pretty short for a FS fatbike. I bet it's gonna be a hell of a fun bike to ride.

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    These look great. Nice job Salsa.

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    If I say it often enough it might come true..

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    ^ negative ghost rider....YOU need this bike.

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    Can't wait till my frame shows up, so I can put a Lefty on it....

    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Can't wait till my frame shows up, so I can put a Lefty on it....

    That will be awesome! I will probably have to drive over there to see it.

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    'Scuse my stupidity, are the Bucksaw's TA the same as the carbon Beargrease?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sisu View Post
    'Scuse my stupidity, are the Bucksaw's TA the same as the carbon Beargrease?


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    According to the specs yes but the front hub is now 150mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Can't wait till my frame shows up, so I can put a Lefty on it....

    That's my plan, if I can get the frame separately

    Edit....yes, I guess it'll be possible, from the bottom of their blog comments:

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    Kid Riemer | April 11th, 2014

    Lucas - Bucksaw 1 and the Frame Only option will be the Blue color. Bucksaw 2 will be the Gold color.

    Stefan - No, the bike is not 29+ compatible. The Bluto fork can fit it, but not the rear end of the Bluto. The difference in outer tire diameter from 3.8” fatbike tires to 29+ tires is too large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATBScott View Post
    So - word is the Bucksaw 1 (at Sea Otter, with Carbon Rims) is right about 30 lbs. Figure a little more with Marge Lights...
    That is pretty darned good!

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    Bucksaw back for public viewing @ Sea Otter

    Just got word that the blue Bucksaw just landed back at booth #443 and will be there for the next few hours...
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    You are required to take stay and yolk clearance close-up pictures. Bonus points for including a ruler in the shots.

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    What's the chainstay length on the Bucksaw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8R View Post
    What's the chainstay length on the Bucksaw?
    Using the rim diameter to scale off of the above image, I'm coming up with about 19.5"

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    Love at first sight! This bike is going to rip on the tore up Jeep trails and rocky/loose routes here on the east slope of the Cascades! Going to start seeing Fatty's in allot more places now!!

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    Clearances

    Here are a few shots with the clearance(s) on the tires of the Bucksaw... Bluto fork has a ton of clearance, upper stay clearance looks decent, lower looks like even more...
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    Anyone ever get the actual a-c of the Bluto?

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    I've heard a few places around that it is 483mm... Can't say that I have seen that officially yet tho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATBScott View Post
    I've heard a few places around that it is 483mm... Can't say that I have seen that officially yet tho...
    @ 80mm travel without sag?

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    Borealis didn't know it, but they were making a Salsa FS fatty promo video.
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    The part where they can't make the turn because fatbike gyroscopic force is dragging them out and they lock up the brakes is classic.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    I was actually looking at buying a Horsethief and an Ice Cream Truck this fall. Looks like Salsa just saved me over 3k by combining them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    The part where they can't make the turn because fatbike gyroscopic force is dragging them out and they lock up the brakes is classic.
    perhaps thats the riders style? ala motorcross.

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    Look crazy fun to ride, can't wait to demo.
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    Anyone know the tube length for a large sized frame??

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    Hi All,

    Tim K and Mike R (Kid) from Salsa Cycles will have the Bucksaw models at our Booth #443 at the following times this weekend:

    Saturday: 10AM, Noon, 2PM

    Sunday: 10AM, Noon

    They'll be there to talk about the bike(s) and answer any questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post
    Using the rim diameter to scale off of the above image, I'm coming up with about 19.5"
    Man, that's a shame. Anything over 17" is way too long for me.

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    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike

    What are the chances that this will be a carbon bike in 2015 a la Beargrease?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8R View Post
    Man, that's a shame. Anything over 17" is way too long for me.
    How do you expect them to get 17" of chainstay length with 26" rims, 3.8" tires, and a suspension pivot in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post
    How do you expect them to get 17" of chainstay length with 26" rims, 3.8" tires, and a suspension pivot in there?
    With



    If specialized can design a 16.9" chainstay 29er that still has gobs of clearance back there, then Salsa can make normal-sized chainstays for this bike...if they choose to do the engineering (like probably not BB30, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post
    How do you expect them to get 17" of chainstay length with 26" rims, 3.8" tires, and a suspension pivot in there?
    New math?
    Flotilla or Buffet.

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    Lenz bikes have room for big 2.4"+ 29er rubber and 16.7" CS.

    The OD of those 29er tires should be larger than a 3.8" tire on a 26" rim.
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    Lenz fatmoth = 18" chainstay......lunchbox and behemoth are the only ones i see with 16..75 chainstays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    Lenz fatmoth = 18" chainstay......lunchbox and behemoth are the only ones i see with 16..75 chainstays
    and to boot custom so far away from the mass produced units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    and to boot custom so far away from the mass produced units.
    Indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    Lenz fatmoth = 18" chainstay......lunchbox and behemoth are the only ones i see with 16..75 chainstays


    Yes. That's why I said 2.4"+ 29er rubber not 29+ rubber. I think there is room for a DH style 2.5" 29er tire in there on the 16.7" CS Lenz bikes.

    That's comparable to a 3.8" 26er tire height wise if not a bit taller than the fat tire.

    The FS Salsa can't fit 29+ so no point going there and hoping for short CS.
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    I agree Vik, the salsa wont have the short stays like the Lenz but I hope they are not too long. So far I have enjoyed the split pivot bikes I have tried and hope the bucksaw is as dialed in as the others.

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    I brought an image into a CAD program, my calculations show 17.6" chainstays on the Bucksaw. That's assuming the Nate on ML has a 29" diameter. I'll bet they are in the 17.5" range plus or minus a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    I agree Vik, the salsa wont have the short stays like the Lenz but I hope they are not too long. So far I have enjoyed the split pivot bikes I have tried and hope the bucksaw is as dialed in as the others.
    I haven't tried a Split Pivot bike, but if there is one guy I trust with suspension design it's Dave W.

    As far as CS is concerned other Salsa SP bikes are in the ~17.2" range.

    It should also be noted Lenz gets the uber short CS on dedicated 1x frames. So no front derailleur allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I brought an image into a CAD program, my calculations show 17.6" chainstays on the Bucksaw.
    Could be, that is t i t e tight! Good work.

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    I did it again for a screen capture and using the aligned dimension function, this time it came out to exactly 17.5". Of course camera angle, where I pick line start and end points and the exact size of the tire all could contribute to that estimate being off, but not by too far I don't think.

    Salsa Cycles BUCKSAW FS Fat Bike-capture-20140412-210110.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I did it again for a screen capture and using the aligned dimension function, this time it came out to exactly 17.5". Of course camera angle, where I pick line start and end points and the exact size of the tire all could contribute to that estimate being off, but not by too far I don't think.

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    17.5" is not crazy talk for a FS bike with fat tires and a front derailleur option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I did it again for a screen capture and using the aligned dimension function, this time it came out to exactly 17.5". Of course camera angle, where I pick line start and end points and the exact size of the tire all could contribute to that estimate being off, but not by too far I don't think.

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    Thanks man! seems reasonable to me, cant wait to ride it!

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    I'm sure the optimum alternate wheel size for this frame hasn't yet been invented. But it will be soon enough. 650b+ is right around the corner. The ability to go fat and semi-fat will make a quiver killer for sure.
    I don't know what trail we're on, but at least it's getting dark

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    Yep,regular 29'er,semi-fat and fat all in one.Sign me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregB406 View Post
    I'm sure the optimum alternate wheel size for this frame hasn't yet been invented. But it will be soon enough. 650b+ is right around the corner. The ability to go fat and semi-fat will make a quiver killer for sure.
    Yep, and should work in any existing fat bike frame. Bring it!

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