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    Salsa Carbon Beargrease First Ride

    I swung a leg over one Tuesday, and then again Wednesday. Here's some first ride thoughts...

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    It's going to be interesting watching fat bikes grow up. Talk to some people, and the only possible future for fatbikes is heavy steel adventure machines, talk to others and the future is lightweight trail bikes.

    Personally, I don't know, hope there's room for both and some spots in between for folks like me who don't want to commit to either end of the spectrum.

    After falling off a raised platform a couple weeks ago, I don't know if I'd want a carbon bike, but I gotta admit, it does look purty.

    That cassette looks positively insane.

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    Nice write-up. I personally like your dollar bill example for the size of the downtube. Haven't seen that anywhere yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Nice write-up. I personally like your dollar bill example for the size of the downtube. Haven't seen that anywhere yet!
    Yeah, you know normally, I'd be using a Benjamin, but I'm tryin' to keep it real...

    But seriously, I like to give an example that you can relate to. My hand is different from your hand, and saying that it's 3.XYS inches wide is abstract. Everyone can envision a dollar bill.

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    As usual great write up.
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    I rode one about 10 miles - it's a damn big down tube. I'm glad that no one else attending the same demo that I did seemed visibly put off, because my bamboo frames of the future are going to have an enormous down tube also.

    Good review, lawfarm. My two cents:

    I agree, the bike is a rocket of a fat bike. Picking it up is an exercise in disbelief. The steering for summer riding - perfect. I got lucky that the M size fit me perfectly, I'm usually a fan of narrower alt bars but the cockpit worked awesome. The XX1 drivetrain muddied my opinions on drive trains (I hate derailleurs) as it worked really very well and was quiet.

    That said, I'm used to my front suspended fat bike - I'll take the lighter weight, and acknowledge that suspension will never get me as feather light as this bike. But I'm not going rigid for summer use again any time soon. This thing only got up to speed a bit faster than usual and I kept having to yell at myself to brake earlier going into corners, not only because I'd accelerated faster but because the front tire would be comparably skipping around choppy corners.
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    Was that build right at 26 lbs (Test Ride: Salsa Carbon Fat Bike | Gear Review | Gear Junkie), or do you think it was lighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooSteep View Post
    Was that build right at 26 lbs (Test Ride: Salsa Carbon Fat Bike | Gear Review | Gear Junkie), or do you think it was lighter?
    Don't know about lawfarm, but I didn't see a scale handy. So, I cannot answer objectively.

    Subjectively, it was WTF feeling. Like picking up an Appleman bike with fat tires on it.
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    Nice review But it seems my old Beargrease is now officially obsolete:



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    Quote Originally Posted by TooSteep View Post
    Was that build right at 26 lbs (Test Ride: Salsa Carbon Fat Bike | Gear Review | Gear Junkie), or do you think it was lighter?
    It had to have been lighter. The Spearfish I rode was 23.6 pounds, and subjectively, the Beargrease felt lighter. I didn't throw the Beargrease on a scale (d'oh), but will do so in a couple weeks when I see mine show up.

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    Gorgeous bike! Great review!
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    I rode one last weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it...
    Only thing was it was an XL and felt too small for me.
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    Heading out to buy a lottery ticket right now... I feel a little choked up about Salsa, man they deserve to sell the beelzebub out of that bike, it's a beauty. Curse you for writing about it, I was trying to ignore it! Must keep head. in. Sand.

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    Hey, hold on a sec... 23.6 lb Spearfish? Dang that's an XC weapon...tell all on 29er thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    Hey, hold on a sec... 23.6 lb Spearfish? Dang that's an XC weapon...tell all on 29er thread?
    I haven't gotten to writing anything beyond the split pivot review for the Spearfish, but yeah. Bone stock, 23.6 pounds with XX1.

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    Ah yes, I see--I managed to scroll down past the beargrease centerfold pics...thanks for the write-ups!

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    I'm having a hard time understanding the article. There are a lot of references to a Mukluk or Pugsley. Is that what the author is comparing the carbon Beargrease with?

    For example.. The weight between the alu. Beargrease and the carbon Beargrease is actually fairly close, but the article seems to say it is a revolutionary difference?

    I think I'm missing something.

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    Salsa Carbon Beargrease First Ride

    I asked my lbs to put the lower-spec carbon Beargrease on the scale. 28 lbs. I'm sure the XX1 version is lighter, but it's not a 4-pound difference.

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    Re: Salsa Carbon Beargrease First Ride

    Yeah, the frame weight isn't drastically different either. Borealis takes the win on lightest fat bike at 21.9 lbs, that's with carbon rims.
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    That's a beautiful review! I think it's ready to go paperback. Awesome use of photos.

    Thanks. :-)

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    Anyone know what the geometry is on this bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor View Post
    Anyone know what the geometry is on this bike?
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    Thanks! Checked the website two days ago and couldn't find anything. I think I'm blind:-) or the website have been updated.

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    I wonder if weight can be lost the same way the previous bear grease could lose weight. Example: lighter tubes, etc.

    I'm more interested in ride quality and I think that thru axles are a great start.

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    Not going to lie, but a bit sad its only got a 27.2 seat post i like using a dropper on my on one fatty makes it much more trail/chuckable on singletrack.
    still loverly though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bat on a bike View Post
    Not going to lie, but a bit sad its only got a 27.2 seat post i like using a dropper on my on one fatty makes it much more trail/chuckable on singletrack.
    still loverly though.
    I love dropper posts too. There are 27.2 options available, my favorite post (KS Lev) is now available in that size. The most functional-in-cold-weather post, the Gravity Dropper, is easily available 27.2 and has been for some time.
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    I know but still a shame, spesh with such a thick seat tube anyway it's got a 35 mm seat clamp. It is still a lovely looking bike though lol.

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    Another customer of NCC! They treat me better than any of my local LBS. Hence why I drive 70 miles to them for a new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 43st View Post
    I'm having a hard time understanding the article. There are a lot of references to a Mukluk or Pugsley. Is that what the author is comparing the carbon Beargrease with?

    For example.. The weight between the alu. Beargrease and the carbon Beargrease is actually fairly close, but the article seems to say it is a revolutionary difference?

    I think I'm missing something.
    I don't have a frame of reference to compare to a carbon Borealis...I am comparing to fatbikes that I have ridden. The geometry has the 'mountain bike' feel of a Pugsley, as compared to the more relaxed Mukluk feel. The weight reduction from the last year's aluminum Beargrease to this year's carbon Beargrease is pretty substantial. The handling and feel difference is pretty substantial, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXTless View Post
    I asked my lbs to put the lower-spec carbon Beargrease on the scale. 28 lbs. I'm sure the XX1 version is lighter, but it's not a 4-pound difference.
    I'll be curious to throw an XX1 on a scale. The stock wheels are marginally lighter (annodized vs. powdercoating), the brakes are marginally lighter, the seatpost and bars are lighter, and the drivetrain is substantially lighter.

    HED's carbon rim'd version comes in at 22 pounds, with tubes. I'm guessing the stock version is probably right around 24.

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    Anyone know if this bike will be avaible as a frame only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor View Post
    Anyone know if this bike will be avaible as a frame only?
    Yes, the carbon BG will be offered in a Frame/fork combo.
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    Not sure if this is new or not but I had to change frame size as it appears Salsa has updated there sizing chart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNBN View Post
    Not sure if this is new or not but I had to change frame size as it appears Salsa has updated there sizing chart?
    Are you basing your need to change frame size by the sizing chart, or have you been able to test ride the bike? I tested one at a demo and my typical size frame (XL) felt fine with the Beargrease.
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    Having been looking at these and really thinking of pulling the plug on one I'm just would've ring about sizing?? Spesh after this comment on page one!! I rode one last weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it...
    Only thing was it was an XL and felt too small for me.
    It's got a 640mm top tube = 25.4 inches how tall are you how do they size up as there is no demo's available in the uk that I can find so far anywhere near me. I'm 6.3 about 191cm. Any help from you guy would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot View Post
    Are you basing your need to change frame size by the sizing chart, or have you been able to test ride the bike? I tested one at a demo and my typical size frame (XL) felt fine with the Beargrease.
    When I first ordered the bike they told me to use the 2013 bear grease sizing guideline. This put me right in the sweet spot on a large frame.
    Now posted on there website is a totally different size chart that puts me in the top end of a medium frame but definitely not a large. Wish I could test ride one but no such luck. Sounds like there is no issue changing size but there certainly not letting out any information as to when they will start shipping?

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    I'm 6'2" and the XL felt fine. You're only an inch taller but maybe your torso/legs ratio is different. If the XL feels small maybe you could try a lay-back seatpost. I don't know how long the stem is on an XL bike but you could try a longer stem as well.
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    Is there web site right? Over 29 inches standover height for a medium frame.
    I'd love to get one but that's too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majack View Post
    Yes, the carbon BG will be offered in a Frame/fork combo.
    I think it is frame/fork/hubs...

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    I just ordered a Beargrease XX1.
    I hope to get it around Thanksgiving, It's already starting to snow here.
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    Salsa Carbon Beargrease First Ride

    Makes me tempted to sell both my mukluk and anthem for one. Then again have two is always nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    I think it is frame/fork/hubs...
    Yes Law, it is frame, fork and hubs. I just forgot to add the hubs in when I posted.
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    I hope I am wrong Rock Dude, but better plan on December/January for delivery unless you bought from a shop that did a HUGE pre-season order early!


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    You aren't giving me much hope Mike. I don't want to wait that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyonthemadone View Post
    I hope I am wrong Rock Dude, but better plan on December/January for delivery unless you bought from a shop that did a HUGE pre-season order early!


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    I called Salsa and spoke to Brian, he gave me a couple of dealers that have ordered a lot of them. I was lucky enough to find a medium that had not been sold.
    It's true that all of the first batch has been sold and the second batch won't be available until at least December/January.

    Special thanks to Brian @ Salsa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barefoot40 View Post
    You aren't giving me much hope Mike. I don't want to wait that long.
    Check out Freewheel Bike in Eden Prairie Minnesota, I think they may have 1 large left.
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    Did he say when they would be arriving or shipping out to the dealers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnymac View Post
    Did he say when they would be arriving or shipping out to the dealers?
    Salsa told me the dealers should have them around Thanksgiving.

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    Our shop will have a large and a medium and X9 build that are not spoken for yet.

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    I got a call from the shop that I ordered my Beargrease from and they received it yesterday. They got it a lot sooner than I thought they would.
    Now I having them order a dropper post and build a extra front wheel (Clown shoe, hope hub with a Bud).
    I guess I dropped the ball and should have ordered the dropper and front wheel sooner now they have to wait to get the parts before they can ship me the bike.
    That's alright I will still get it before my birthday, Thanksgiving day.
    I'm very excited, we are starting to get some snow here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I got a call from the shop that I ordered my Beargrease from and they received it yesterday. They got it a lot sooner than I thought they would.
    Now I having them order a dropper post and build a extra front wheel (Clown shoe, hope hub with a Bud).
    I guess I dropped the ball and should have ordered the dropper and front wheel sooner now they have to wait to get the parts before they can ship me the bike.
    That's alright I will still get it before my birthday, Thanksgiving day.
    I'm very excited, we are starting to get some snow here.
    Which shop did you buy from? I'm hearing that mine will arrive soon. Gonna be a fun winter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot View Post
    Which shop did you buy from? I'm hearing that mine will arrive soon. Gonna be a fun winter!
    Freewheel Bike in Eden Prairie Minnesota. Great guys to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Freewheel Bike in Eden Prairie Minnesota. Great guys to deal with.
    They're a bunch of clowns

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    I saw something truly awesome today at Freewheel in Eden Prairie. Custom build of an XX1 Beargrease with a Clownshoe/BUD on the front. Drool worthy. They have a medium XX1 model on the floor too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Roads View Post
    I saw something truly awesome today at Freewheel in Eden Prairie. Custom build of an XX1 Beargrease with a Clownshoe/BUD on the front. Drool worthy. They have a medium XX1 model on the floor too.
    That ones mine. I haven't seen it yet. Any pics?
    There shipping it to me on Monday. I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    That ones mine. I haven't seen it yet. Any pics?
    There shipping it to me on Monday. I can't wait.
    No pics. It was in back with the mechanics, they just pointed it out to me. I would say that you're are gonna LIKE IT though :-)
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    what are you running in the rear? picking up my XX1 this morning ...can't wait.....

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    Sounds like deliveries are very limited at this time? The only mention of size is medium and only in the XX1. Any word on the X9 and anyone in the West taken delivery of a Beargrease?

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    They are all trickling in by size. The med xx1 were first... but the X9 are still on schedule to ship mid November. I am pretty sure they come built and in the box already, so ship after they have passed QC at QBP - so there isn't much delay once they hit the warehouse.

    In ship window 1 our shop has 1 large and 1 medium that are not spoken for yet. We have been taking deposits on them for the past 2 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    That ones mine. I haven't seen it yet. Any pics?
    There shipping it to me on Monday. I can't wait.
    Now you owe us a bunch of pictures when you get it!
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    I wonder how many xx1's were pre sold. I thought by now we would have seen some ride reports but maybe they are to busy riding or not many have actual been sold?
    I'm on the West coast and have pre ordered an x9 and all Ive heard is November shipping. Getting a little antsy as I have sold my Muk and we already have enough snow to be riding the fat.

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    I preordered a Large XX1 build in the summer but so far haven't not heard anything from my local dealer in Columbus, OH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNBN View Post
    I wonder how many xx1's were pre sold. I thought by now we would have seen some ride reports but maybe they are to busy riding or not many have actual been sold?
    I'm on the West coast and have pre ordered an x9 and all Ive heard is November shipping. Getting a little antsy as I have sold my Muk and we already have enough snow to be riding the fat.
    Link won't be live until 7AM CST, but here you go...preliminary ride report.

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    Salsa Carbon Beargrease First Ride-10700941993_a1d8286109_z.jpg

    Aww...yeah!!!

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    Aww...yeah!!!
    Yeah! oh hell yeah! Did you weigh it yet Dean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    Yeah! oh hell yeah! Did you weigh it yet Dean.
    Right at 26 pounds, as shown with pedals, bottle cages, bottles, etc., ready to ride.

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    What saddle is that?

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    Our shop got 6 Medium sized XX1 bikes in last Wed and because of a big local race we had I've ridden it only twice so only about 20 miles of actual riding and all on single track. Compared to aluminum bear grease I'd say it has a slightly more mountain bike feel to it and is a touch more agile. You can tell it's a bit lighter but the biggest difference for me is the XX1 drivetrain which I'm in love with. I do wonder in the really tough snow conditions if I'm going to want smaller than a 28 up front but seems fantastic so far.

    Will ride it more in the upcoming weeks and I'm sure some people will give you a better idea of the bike. It's 26 lbs without pedals out of the box. Looks gorgeous, tons of fun. Nice to see more people on them and I'm excited for winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnymac View Post
    What saddle is that?
    ERGON SM3 Pro Carbon.

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    is it comfy? looks nice....
    how tall are you? it's a large saddle....is there a big difference between large and med?

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    I will have mine on Monday, it's in the hands of UPS. I hope they take care of it!
    Will post pictures when I get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    I will have mine on Monday, it's in the hands of UPS. I hope they take care of it!
    Will post pictures when I get it.
    If you don't mind, what size frame & is it the X9 or XX1 build?
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    It appears that there's only medium xx1's out there and only in the USA. If anyone knows any different please let us know. Wow Mazzmond how many fat bikes do you sell in a year. 6 xx1 mediums, impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot View Post
    If you don't mind, what size frame & is it the X9 or XX1 build?
    It's a medium XX1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNBN View Post
    It appears that there's only medium xx1's out there and only in the USA. If anyone knows any different please let us know. Wow Mazzmond how many fat bikes do you sell in a year. 6 xx1 mediums, impressive.
    Damn my height! If I were a normal sized dude I'd be riding my new Beargrease. Right now I hate being 6'2"
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    Hmm, Interesting that we have only heard of beargrease delivery to a couple of locations and only in medium. I wonder if the delivered bikes were actual preproduction bikes that they built up and sent out to keep the interest alive??? Hard to believe that we haven't seen any other activity on the forums.
    I guess it would be to much to ask if anyone has ridden both the beargrease and yampas? I would been interested to hear peoples thought on the rear triangle on the yampas. They talk about the vertical movement (flex) that they have incorporated into the designed.
    If I don't hear soon that the beargrease is been shipped in numbers, I may have to jump ship.

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    keep pedalling in the UK are advertising that they have a small and medium?

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    Well, not everyone who's into Fatbikes hang out on internet forums so it's possible that there are bikes out there that those of us who frequent MTBR haven't heard about. I would think that Salsa would ship more than one size or build level of the BG within a reasonable time frame. Of course, I have no idea how Salsa or any other brand does business.
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    One of LBSs here has quite a few of the carbon Beargreases. There were 3 of them at a ride last night, not sure on the groupsets/sizes of the bikes though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wetpaint View Post
    One of LBSs here has quite a few of the carbon Beargreases. There were 3 of them at a ride last night, not sure on the groupsets/sizes of the bikes though.
    Where are you located? I'm trying to get a bead on where these bikes are showing up.
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    Traverse City, MI

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    We have XX1 and X9 Beargreasers in Des Moines, IA

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjtort2 View Post
    We have XX1 and X9 Beargreasers in Des Moines, IA
    Can you tell us if there are frame sizes other than medium?
    Good news to see that the x9 build is starting to show up.

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    Just finished putting it together.
    Have to change the saddle and put Enve bars on it.
    Right at 27lbs with the dropper and pedals.

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    That's a beauty! Post your thoughts after you've had some time in the saddle if possible?

    Thanks for sharing!

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    Salsa Carbon Beargrease First Ride-10807102575_14aec20296_z.jpg

    A little Beargrease photoshoot.

    And some more review-type thoughts, now that I have about 150 miles on her.

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    Dean, I'm just about there on getting a Mukluk2 but I keep reading your post here and on FB and I'm about to change mi mind put the 2012 SF1 up for sale to get the BG. your thoughts please! I thinking I might miss the fish come Spring but then Spring doesn't get here till June 1st Summer starts on the 4th of July and ends on Aug.25th.

    The Beragrease is a bike I could go do a 24hr solo on. I think the Wausau 24 has a fat bike class, that would be fun. also with the BG I'll less up-keep.

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    The Ski Hut in Duluth, MN got some Beargrease love in today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnymac View Post
    is it comfy? looks nice....
    how tall are you? it's a large saddle....is there a big difference between large and med?
    I'm 6'.

    The saddle is a Large, yes. I use both Large and Medium Ergons. For bikes that I do longer rides on (e.g. my gravel bike), I use the Large and find it more comfortable. However, it is large enough to be a bit challenging to slip between your legs quickly on a mountain bike, so on a mountain bike, I use a medium, so I can slide around it more quickly when I need to shift my weight back.

    On the Fatbike, I use a Large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    Dean, I'm just about there on getting a Mukluk2 but I keep reading your post here and on FB and I'm about to change mi mind put the 2012 SF1 up for sale to get the BG. your thoughts please! I thinking I might miss the fish come Spring but then Spring doesn't get here till June 1st Summer starts on the 4th of July and ends on Aug.25th.

    The Beragrease is a bike I could go do a 24hr solo on. I think the Wausau 24 has a fat bike class, that would be fun. also with the BG I'll less up-keep.
    I don't think you can go wrong with the Beargrease. It's an amazing bike. I like having the right bike for the conditions--and there's no doubt that in the middle of summer, I can rip faster on the Spearfish than I will be able to on the Beargrease. That said, if you can't have a bike for each condition, there's no doubt that the Beargrease can do everything that the Spearfish can do...but the Spearfish cannot do everything that the Beargrease can do. If I could only have one of the two, it would have to be the Beargrease.

    And frankly, the speed differential between the BG and SF on dry conditions will probably not be that great. The BG rips! You don't have suspension, but you have 4" of tire under you, and unending grip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    Dean, I'm just about there on getting a Mukluk2 but I keep reading your post here and on FB and I'm about to change mi mind put the 2012 SF1 up for sale to get the BG. your thoughts please! I thinking I might miss the fish come Spring but then Spring doesn't get here till June 1st Summer starts on the 4th of July and ends on Aug.25th.

    The Beragrease is a bike I could go do a 24hr solo on. I think the Wausau 24 has a fat bike class, that would be fun. also with the BG I'll less up-keep.
    But really, I think you need both.

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    Thanks Dean, That's what I'm thinking, we had 7 months of Winter this last one, I love my SF but it doesn't get any love till May and this year it was June we even had snow late June this year. I would anyways most likely sell the SF1 next year to buy a newer 29er F/S so if I do it now I'll get more out of it than waiting a year to sell a bike that I'm only going to ride maybe four months. So yeah! thank-you! thank-you! thank-you!
    Dino.

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    All Medium frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    The Ski Hut in Duluth, MN got some Beargrease love in today.
    Any sizes besides M? (I have an XL X9 ordered)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilboy View Post
    Any sizes besides M? (I have an XL X9 ordered)
    I don't know for sure on just what size they have in the Beargrease, he just said they got some in and the guys are putting them together right now I had called to ask about the Muk2 and the Fatboy. that's all the info I have you should give them a call.
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    Made a few changes, Enve bars and stem, grips and a new saddle.
    Getting ready for the first ride.

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    Salsa Carbon Beargrease First Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Made a few changes, Enve bars and stem, grips and a new saddle.
    Getting ready for the first ride.

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    Wow, looks amazing. Still waiting on my Large.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock dude View Post
    Made a few changes, Enve bars and stem, grips and a new saddle.
    Getting ready for the first ride.

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    And a dropper post!!! KEV?

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    OK, enough already with you normal sized dudes & your damned medium Beargrease's

    Seriously, I understand why Salsa has released the medium sized bikes first, but I sure as heck wish they could sneak in a few XL's so us Clydesdales wouldn't have to suffer like this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot View Post
    OK, enough already with you normal sized dudes & your damned medium Beargrease's
    Not that it will make you feel any better, but some of us non-behemoths are still waiting. Namely, those of us without the cash for XX1.

    Heard from my shop today. Ship date moved from today to 11/18.

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