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    Salsa Beargrease

    They've shipped and are arriving at LBS, the Salsa Beargrease! Here is a photo of mine being built at the shop. Post a photo of yours as well. I can't wait for snow!!
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    That is interesting that they ship with the RD rim. I would have thought Marge Lites would be stock on the Salsa fat bike racer.

    That'll be a good looking machine after it's finished! Updates are required!

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    The shop owner s building up a bike with Marge Lites, powder coated yellow, carbon bars, Hope brakes, it'll be a trick bike when complete. I'll post photos of mine, and his bike as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black cross View Post
    The shop owner s building up a bike with Marge Lites, powder coated yellow, carbon bars, Hope brakes, it'll be a trick bike when complete. I'll post photos of mine, and his bike as well.
    Sounds like he's shooting for a 25-26 pound fatty.
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    I'll weigh mine at the shop when I pick it up. I've not ridden a 'regular' fat bike, so I won't know the difference between the two.

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    I'm planning on buying mine next week when they arrive at my shop. It will be my first fatty...I was thinking about the mukluk 2, and am planning on making a final decision when I can ride them side by side, but dang the bg looks sweet. (muk looks like it can run bud and lou, bg would be bud/nate for when speed is not the objective, but that seems like the only think pointing towards the muk. I'll probably end up with the beargrease!

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    Quote Originally Posted by black cross View Post
    I'll weigh mine at the shop when I pick it up. I've not ridden a 'regular' fat bike, so I won't know the difference between the two.
    We need to get all the Wichita Fatbikes together for the Global Fatbike Day ride on the 1st. Where do we ride? Millers Meadow? The dried up Little Arkansas River? I doubt that Air Capital will be ready to ride yet. Some urban fatbiking?
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    what kind of hopes?
    i just ordered some race evo for my MUK....

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    I've almost made the decision to order a frame set. Can anyone help me decide between medium or small?

    I'm 5'8, 160 lbs. with average proportions but I don't actually know my inseam. I plan to build it with Rolling Darryl's and Husker Du's for year-round riding.

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    The Mukluk's run quite big. I am 5'9" with a 31" inseam and quite average arm and leg length. I have a medium 2012 Mukluk 2 with a 100mm stem and feel quite stretched out. But the 2012 has the Salsa bend 2 11 degree bar which bends forward and then back keepong it closer to a straight or 5 degree bar. Could probably go to a 90mm stem. You may be between sizes or closer to a small. It would really be good if you could find one to ride. If you like to ride with a short stem, you could probably go with the medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnymac View Post
    what kind of hopes?
    i just ordered some race evo for my MUK....
    Yu keeping that thing??? or getting a Beargrease??

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    I'm 5'11, 160 lbs, 32" inseam, bought a medium complete build and fits fine, after 1 ride.

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    i'm waiting to hear back from you?
    i guess i am going to keep the MUK unless i can sell it for a good price....

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    Waiting my frame to arrive!

    Will be build up with Sram X0, Rolling Darryls (orange), Hope hubs, Husker Du´s, 3T carbon bar and seatpost, Selle Italia Flite, Middleburn cranks...

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    Just found out my BG is on its way to the Yukon, shipping today.
    No radical changes as of yet to bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat alberto View Post
    If you like to ride with a short stem, you could probably go with the medium.
    My road bike setup is a very compact frame with a long stem and it's just right for me so I think I'll go with the small Beargrease frame.

    How does a long stem affect handling on single track vs. a short stem?

    Edit: Just found a fitting chart here: Salsa Unveils 2013 Lineup – New Fatbikes, Travel Bikes, Gravel Racers & More - Bike Rumor

    I fall just below the recommended height range for a medium frame set. So my plan is to go with a small frame set, carbon setback seat post, and stem length of 90-110 mm or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrY10cK View Post
    My road bike setup is a very compact frame with a long stem and it's just right for me so I think I'll go with the small Beargrease frame.

    How does a long stem affect handling on single track vs. a short stem?
    I cannot quantify this from a physics standpoint, however in real time the longer stem = slower and shorter = quicker.

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    Can anybody give a ride report yet on their BG? Would love to hear about improvement in climbing efficiency of the BG versus a heavier fatbike.

    I have a BG on order, but still on the fence on whether the 3.5 pounds difference is worth the cost of the upgrade and the loss I will take on selling my Mukluk 2. I'm figuring that the BG will be 29.5 stock with pedals. My ML is currently 33 with pedals.

    The Mukluk 2 will never be able to ovecome the pound in the fork and the pound in the frame that the BG sheds, but I just read that a lighter cassette and chain netted someone a half pound reduction in their Mukluk. Maybe it is possible to get it down to a 2 pound difference.

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    all my parts have arrived. Large Beargrease frameset. XTR shifters, brakes, deraileurs, eThirteen double crank, hope hubs, Schlick 47mm rims, thomson post, salsa promoto bar and stem....

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    have a BG on order, but still on the fence on whether the 3.5 pounds difference is worth the cost of the upgrade and the loss I will take on selling my Mukluk 2. I'm figuring that the BG will be 29.5 stock with pedals. My ML is currently 33 with pedals.
    Would never try to dissuade anyone from buying such a cool new toy, but you do have options with your (2012?) Muk 2 that will get you to Beargrease weights. None of the options are cheap, unfortunately. Mainly you can drop a pound plus in the fork getting a Carver carbon, and if you build a wheelset along the lines of Marge Lite/hope hubs/dt comps and put HuDu's or UL nates on you could lose 2-3lbs in rotation weight. Change the cassette, put a light bar and seat on, and you'd be there.

    The plus side is that you can set up the bike porky for the winter, and switch to the summer dress and presto, like having a brand new bike. The downside is it's not a brand new bike. The geo, however, is basically identical between '12 Muk and '13 BG according to Salsa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottytheoneandonly View Post
    all my parts have arrived. Large Beargrease frameset. XTR shifters, brakes, deraileurs, eThirteen double crank, hope hubs, Schlick 47mm rims, thomson post, salsa promoto bar and stem....
    thats gonna be light

    awaiting pics and specs once done !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    Would never try to dissuade anyone from buying such a cool new toy, but you do have options with your (2012?) Muk 2 that will get you to Beargrease weights. None of the options are cheap, unfortunately. Mainly you can drop a pound plus in the fork getting a Carver carbon, and if you build a wheelset along the lines of Marge Lite/hope hubs/dt comps and put HuDu's or UL nates on you could lose 2-3lbs in rotation weight. Change the cassette, put a light bar and seat on, and you'd be there.
    Thanks Montana for thr suggestion on the fork. Hadn't known about the carbon Carver. I see that it is lighter than the BG fork, fits on the 2012 Muk 2 and is really not that expensive. Feel a lot better now about the potentail for getting my Muk's weight down.

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    What's the MSRP on the Beargrease?
    There are three kinds of people: those of us that are good at math and those that are not.

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    A lot of the hype around this bike was the weight, can anyone confirm the stock Meds are actually 28lb ?

    I reckon they look awesome, those blue wheels are sensational !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    A lot of the hype around this bike was the weight, can anyone confirm the stock Meds are actually 28lb ?

    I reckon they look awesome, those blue wheels are sensational !
    Cycle haven weighed their XL, 29 lbs.

    I'm sure they will be getting a medium soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    Cycle haven weighed their XL, 29 lbs.

    I'm sure they will be getting a medium soon.
    Thats pretty good then. The Med will be in the ballpark hopefully.

    Is the 29lb with pedals ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Thats pretty good then. The Med will be in the ballpark hopefully.

    Is the 29lb with pedals ?
    No pedals if I recall from reading their Facebook page correctly.

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    Sell '12 Muk 2 for '13 BG?

    I thought long and hard about that. I rode the BG this summer. Is it AWESOME--loved it for single track fun. I also rode the Spearfish and others at the same time. If you are looking for a do-it-most bike for trail and snow, the BG is pretty sweet.

    I tried to figure the $$$ I would need to pony up when selling the Muk2 and buying the BG. It was pretty close to $1000. Maybe more, maybe less, depending on the deals you can swing and your buyer.

    In the end I decided not to go for it. The BG is really cool; if I didn't have a fat-bike I'd buy it over the MUK2.

    Of course, I also like the cheaper Surly offerings for nearly half the dough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    Cycle haven weighed their XL, 29 lbs.

    I'm sure they will be getting a medium soon.
    I bought one of the mediums from Derrick at Cycle Haven. Adding a couple of personal touches to it. Probably pick it up next week some time. I'll let you know the true weight set up tubeless.

    He has a couple more mediums if anyone wants one...a small & a couple of XLs too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadTony View Post
    I'm planning on buying mine next week when they arrive at my shop. It will be my first fatty...I was thinking about the mukluk 2, and am planning on making a final decision when I can ride them side by side, but dang the bg looks sweet. (muk looks like it can run bud and lou, bg would be bud/nate for when speed is not the objective, but that seems like the only think pointing towards the muk. I'll probably end up with the beargrease!
    Rode the bg yesterday. Amazing looking bike, and I loved how it felt. Deposit placed. I pick it up tomorrow! That's something to be thankful for!

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    Beargrease frameset Large
    XTR deraileurs, shifters brake levers & calipers
    XT cassette, chain and rotors
    eThirteen double (from fatbikes.com.. this is the old style crank arm & bb)
    Hope Hubs
    Schlick rims 47mm (wheelset was built by Schlick in Milwaukee)
    Cane Creek headset (40 upper, 110 lower)
    Salsa Pro Moto stem (110)
    Salsa Pro Moto carbon bar
    Salsa skewers
    Salsa seat collar
    Thomson elite post
    Flite Ti saddle
    Crank Bros 3 pedals

    This bike weighs just barely over 27lbs with pedals and everything you see in the picture.

    The two reasons I didn't buy a stock Beargrease was that I don't like Sram 10sp and I didn't want the heavy wheelset that comes stock.

    I'm using a Larry and Endo tire combo with tubes. Still waiting for the new batch of 45Nrth tires, which I will run tubeless. I'm also going to swap out the stem for a Thomson and replace the saddle with an SLR.

    This bike could be a lot lighter. I decided to save a few dollars on rotors, cassette and chain and use XT. That meant a heavier cassette. But this bike will see a lot of gravel roads this winter and plenty of wet riding. I knew I'd thrash the cassette and chain, so the prospect of ruining $400 worth of drivechain in under 16wks made me err on the side of value instead of weight. For my neck of the woods I could also get away with a 1x10 and save half a pound at least. But I plan to do all of the Great Lakes Fat Bike Series races as well as some fun riding in the northcountry this winter and I know I'll need a granny to get through it. I had originally purchased a Carver O'Beast fork. Its 200grams lighter than the Beargrease fork. But after riding a Beargrease Demo bike I decided against using the Carver. There are also lighter bits and pieces out there.. like carbon posts and ti pedals. However, I've long been riding a combo of Thomson/Salsa parts and stainless steel pedals. I think it's the best combination of value/durability/weight.

    On single track this bike handles an awful lot like my Mamasita hardtail (which has the same drivetrain & brakes). Handling is like a hardtail mountain bike and much different from the Stock 2011 Mukluk 3 I was riding last winter. The Schlick rims, even with heavy wire bead tires and tubes make the wheels feel amazingly light. They also narrow the contact patch a lot, which makes for better rolling on gravel roads. The Beargrease fork is amazingly stiff. Stiffer than any of the carbon fat forks available and lighter than all but one of them. The tapered headtube and steerer are a big part of that. I've used many rigid forks on my 29ers over the years, everything from a Niner to White Bros to several custom steel ones. This fork is the best rigid one I've ever had. The Beargrease frame is also amazingly stiff. The drawn tubing and wide bb and headtube make this bike feel like riding a high end MTB. Compared to all the steel frames (stock & custom) and even last year's Muks this thing is hands down the best fatbike I've ever pedalled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottytheoneandonly View Post


    Beargrease frameset Large
    XTR deraileurs, shifters brake levers & calipers
    XT cassette, chain and rotors
    eThirteen double (from fatbikes.com.. this is the old style crank arm & bb)
    Hope Hubs
    Schlick rims 47mm (wheelset was built by Schlick in Milwaukee)
    Cane Creek headset (40 upper, 110 lower)
    Salsa Pro Moto stem (110)
    Salsa Pro Moto carbon bar
    Salsa skewers
    Salsa seat collar
    Thomson elite post
    Flite Ti saddle
    Crank Bros 3 pedals

    This bike weighs just barely over 27lbs with pedals and everything you see in the picture.

    The two reasons I didn't buy a stock Beargrease was that I don't like Sram 10sp and I didn't want the heavy wheelset that comes stock.

    I'm using a Larry and Endo tire combo with tubes. Still waiting for the new batch of 45Nrth tires, which I will run tubeless. I'm also going to swap out the stem for a Thomson and replace the saddle with an SLR.

    This bike could be a lot lighter. I decided to save a few dollars on rotors, cassette and chain and use XT. That meant a heavier cassette. But this bike will see a lot of gravel roads this winter and plenty of wet riding. I knew I'd thrash the cassette and chain, so the prospect of ruining $400 worth of drivechain in under 16wks made me err on the side of value instead of weight. For my neck of the woods I could also get away with a 1x10 and save half a pound at least. But I plan to do all of the Great Lakes Fat Bike Series races as well as some fun riding in the northcountry this winter and I know I'll need a granny to get through it. I had originally purchased a Carver O'Beast fork. Its 200grams lighter than the Beargrease fork. But after riding a Beargrease Demo bike I decided against using the Carver. There are also lighter bits and pieces out there.. like carbon posts and ti pedals. However, I've long been riding a combo of Thomson/Salsa parts and stainless steel pedals. I think it's the best combination of value/durability/weight.

    On single track this bike handles an awful lot like my Mamasita hardtail (which has the same drivetrain & brakes). Handling is like a hardtail mountain bike and much different from the Stock 2011 Mukluk 3 I was riding last winter. The Schlick rims, even with heavy wire bead tires and tubes make the wheels feel amazingly light. They also narrow the contact patch a lot, which makes for better rolling on gravel roads. The Beargrease fork is amazingly stiff. Stiffer than any of the carbon fat forks available and lighter than all but one of them. The tapered headtube and steerer are a big part of that. I've used many rigid forks on my 29ers over the years, everything from a Niner to White Bros to several custom steel ones. This fork is the best rigid one I've ever had. The Beargrease frame is also amazingly stiff. The drawn tubing and wide bb and headtube make this bike feel like riding a high end MTB. Compared to all the steel frames (stock & custom) and even last year's Muks this thing is hands down the best fatbike I've ever pedalled.
    Awesome build and super light, great job. I can't blame you for doing a custom build, I don't think the stock version is a good bang for the buck.

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    Great build. I am getting ready to buy a beargrease if i can get my hands on one. I have found a size Large but was looking for an XL. Just curious, what is your saddle height in this picture? Measured from the center of BB to top of saddle. Enjoy that new bike.
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    Beargrease frameset Large
    XTR deraileurs, shifters brake levers & calipers
    XT cassette, chain and rotors
    eThirteen double (from fatbikes.com.. this is the old style crank arm & bb)
    Hope Hubs
    Schlick rims 47mm (wheelset was built by Schlick in Milwaukee)
    Cane Creek headset (40 upper, 110 lower)
    Salsa Pro Moto stem (110)
    Salsa Pro Moto carbon bar
    Salsa skewers
    Salsa seat collar
    Thomson elite post
    Flite Ti saddle
    Crank Bros 3 pedals

    This bike weighs just barely over 27lbs with pedals and everything you see in the picture.

    The two reasons I didn't buy a stock Beargrease was that I don't like Sram 10sp and I didn't want the heavy wheelset that comes stock.

    I'm using a Larry and Endo tire combo with tubes. Still waiting for the new batch of 45Nrth tires, which I will run tubeless. I'm also going to swap out the stem for a Thomson and replace the saddle with an SLR.

    This bike could be a lot lighter. I decided to save a few dollars on rotors, cassette and chain and use XT. That meant a heavier cassette. But this bike will see a lot of gravel roads this winter and plenty of wet riding. I knew I'd thrash the cassette and chain, so the prospect of ruining $400 worth of drivechain in under 16wks made me err on the side of value instead of weight. For my neck of the woods I could also get away with a 1x10 and save half a pound at least. But I plan to do all of the Great Lakes Fat Bike Series races as well as some fun riding in the northcountry this winter and I know I'll need a granny to get through it. I had originally purchased a Carver O'Beast fork. Its 200grams lighter than the Beargrease fork. But after riding a Beargrease Demo bike I decided against using the Carver. There are also lighter bits and pieces out there.. like carbon posts and ti pedals. However, I've long been riding a combo of Thomson/Salsa parts and stainless steel pedals. I think it's the best combination of value/durability/weight.

    On single track this bike handles an awful lot like my Mamasita hardtail (which has the same drivetrain & brakes). Handling is like a hardtail mountain bike and much different from the Stock 2011 Mukluk 3 I was riding last winter. The Schlick rims, even with heavy wire bead tires and tubes make the wheels feel amazingly light. They also narrow the contact patch a lot, which makes for better rolling on gravel roads. The Beargrease fork is amazingly stiff. Stiffer than any of the carbon fat forks available and lighter than all but one of them. The tapered headtube and steerer are a big part of that. I've used many rigid forks on my 29ers over the years, everything from a Niner to White Bros to several custom steel ones. This fork is the best rigid one I've ever had. The Beargrease frame is also amazingly stiff. The drawn tubing and wide bb and headtube make this bike feel like riding a high end MTB. Compared to all the steel frames (stock & custom) and even last year's Muks this thing is hands down the best fatbike I've ever pedalled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    Great build. I am getting ready to buy a beargrease if i can get my hands on one. I have found a size Large but was looking for an XL. Just curious, what is your saddle height in this picture? Measured from the center of BB to top of saddle. Enjoy that new bike.
    I run 30.25" measured that way. I'm 6'1" tall. That's a 410mm Thomson setback post. Not sure how many MM are in the frame, but there's plenty left. My wife rides a medium frame and runs a 410mm post set 31" above the bb spindle.

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    ok

    Thanks, that helps. I run 32" center of BB to top of saddle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottytheoneandonly View Post
    I run 30.25" measured that way. I'm 6'1" tall. That's a 410mm Thomson setback post. Not sure how many MM are in the frame, but there's plenty left. My wife rides a medium frame and runs a 410mm post set 31" above the bb spindle.

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    Very nice !! Congrats on the custom build.
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    Scotty, very nice build, thanks for posting the pictures. I'll be fun to get some time on snow with our BG's

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    Got my new beargrease out for a ride today on dry Denver area singletrack. (16.5 mi, 1300 feet of climbing, lots of fast descending and twisty gravel-over-hardpack. I love the traction and predictable break-away of the tires. The gearing was great. I did take note that it was less jumpy and more pumpy than my stumpjumper, and much harder to accelerate, but it was a blast to ride! This will be my new social ride bike, and I can't wait to get it on snow!

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    Very soon...

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    FYI I just got my large Beargrease last night. Had preplanned a little and swapped tubes for Qtubes ultralight 3" ers and my specialized toupe saddle. Borrowed saddle and $20 in tubes for a weight of 28.1 lbs. not bad huh. Glad I didn't go another route and spend my self to death just to get "close". Now I can put some into a bar, lighter cassette and maybe lighter rims and hubs/wheel set and get into serious territory. Meanwhile it's freakin amazing as is. Rolls up way better than the twenty2 bully and surly versions I've ridden. Now for some snow.............

    And that's without pedals.
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    First ride of the year at -32c on my new BG

    Looks like we might have different weather here. My first ride today on my new Bear was at -32c. A quick loop on our local river trail was enuf to get a great feel for this awesome bike! WOW...
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    I recommend the Medium...I am 5'5" and ride the small, with the seatpost jacked up as high as it safely should go. It fits great, but with those extra 3" you should go medium.

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    Here's mine. Only mod so far was swapping out the blue hoops and setting up the black ones tubeless. Gonna roll it Saturday for the first boogie session
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    Quote Originally Posted by GT554 View Post
    Here's mine. Only mod so far was swapping out the blue hoops and setting up the black ones tubeless. Gonna roll it Saturday for the first boogie session
    That looks much much better with the black rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by custardninja View Post
    That looks much much better with the black rims.
    naaaaa no way, blk is well blk and meh.

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    I'm loving these reviews. I ride a Mukluk 2 and LOVE IT!! If anyone has ridden both and can compare it would be great. My Mukluk 2 weighs in at 34 pounds, sounds like the Beargrease could be brought in under 30 pounds rather easily. I'm glad my LBS doesn't have one in stock or I would own two fatbikes right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek.Endress View Post
    Looks like we might have different weather here. My first ride today on my new Bear was at -32c. A quick loop on our local river trail was enuf to get a great feel for this awesome bike! WOW...
    that reeks freekin COLD and that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by custardninja View Post
    That looks much much better with the black rims.
    Thanks Custard, I'm lovin' the look so far. I have a few more goodies on order but nothing to "blingy"
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    2009 Cannondale Super Six Red

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly1 View Post
    I'm loving these reviews. I ride a Mukluk 2 and LOVE IT!! If anyone has ridden both and can compare it would be great. My Mukluk 2 weighs in at 34 pounds, sounds like the Beargrease could be brought in under 30 pounds rather easily. I'm glad my LBS doesn't have one in stock or I would own two fatbikes right now.
    A med frame is 28 pounds out of the box.
    2012 Cannondale Scalpel 29'er Carbon 1

    2009 Cannondale Super Six Red

    2013 Salsa Beargrease

    2012 Surly Pugsley

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