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    rim width advantages and some tire questions. Please be gentle with the newbie

    hey guys,

    first time poster in the fat section. im pulling the trigger this weekend and was confused with the plethora of rim widths.

    apparently there is wide, wider and hella-wide rim widths.

    im based in the Philippines where we can only dream of snow. we do have lots of xc stuff and lots of mud during during the rainy season. i was thinking of getting reasonably fast rolling wheelset and tire combination that would be great for this purpose.

    question: what rim width would make sense? would the marge lite's be ok? with a 65 width they are sort of in the middle of the rim width options. but the orange color is calling to me! would skinnier rims be better for me say 50mm?

    also what tires would be great for this application?

    thanks all and have a fat filled weekend ahead.
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    I think the Marge Lites are awesome on dirt. I also have a Rolling Darryl wheelset, but I prefer my lighter, narrower ML setup. Tread pattern probably has more effect in mud than rim width.

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    How much do you weigh?
    I'm 260 and recently, I got to ride a bike with Darryls (82mm) and Marge Lites (65mm)
    on the same day on the same trail.
    Both bikes had Husker DU tires. I had awesome floatation over soft sand on both bikes.
    I was very surprised and it may have changed my mind about getting Clownshoes (100mm).
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    If riding mostly dirt, then the 65mm Marge Lites or even the 45-55mm rims would be fine. The wider rims are really only an advantage on softer surfaces IMHO.
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    XC and mud spells marge lite to me. That said it spells 29+ in big neon numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    How much do you weigh?
    I'm 260 and recently, I got to ride a bike with Darryls (82mm) and Marge Lites (65mm)
    on the same day on the same trail.
    Both bikes had Husker DU tires. I had awesome floatation over soft sand on both bikes.
    I was very surprised and it may have changed my mind about getting Clownshoes (100mm).
    That's interesting. I have Clownshoes with BFL tires, and I have to bring the pressure down to about 4-5# to feel good on soft sand. I only weigh 170.
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    there's going to be a clyde on this fatty.
    i weigh about 230 or more with all the gear and water.
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    Nope, they're all wrong. Get the orange rims. They're the proper width for you.
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    the orange rims are out of stock every where. My life is over. oh well.

    maybe ill do a marge lite front with a rabbit hole out back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrybomber View Post
    the orange rims are out of stock every where. My life is over. oh well.

    maybe ill do a marge lite front with a rabbit hole out back.
    I would think you would be better with the opposite (rabbit hole front, marge in the rear)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrybomber View Post
    the orange rims are out of stock every where. My life is over. oh well.

    maybe ill do a marge lite front with a rabbit hole out back.
    I would recommend Marge Lite front and rear, Rabbit hole is designed for 29+ 3 inch tires with Knards rather than full 4inch fatness.

    If you get the black rim's then just get them powder coated Orange if you want them in that colour.

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    26" Rabbit hole rims are due soon, as fitted to instigator.

    Me, I would prob go for 50mm rims from what you have described.
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    Before you spend a lot of $$ I would verify that you have a fat tire solution that will work with your local variety of mud. In the photo above those tires had minimal tread and picked up a lot of mud. With a set of fat knobbies I would have been brought to a halt in a few pedal strokes. However, the minimal tread tires wouldn't have got me up a slick mud covered hill.



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    If I was building a mud bike I'd go with a conventional MTB with big tire clearance and some dedicated knobby mud tires with tread designed to shed mud. If you can ride SS that would be a big help keeping your drivetrain running without a lot of attention.



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    You could build up a fatbike with 29er wheels and mud tires - it would have a ton of clearance, but it would also be a very expensive custom build relative to buying something like a Karate Monkey and adding mud tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrybomber View Post
    the orange rims are out of stock every where. My life is over. oh well.
    Cheer up buckaroo, they'll be back...

    Have you checked with mikesee (Lace Mine 29 - Big Bicycle Wheels) to see if he has any in stock? He usually has a stash of goodies.
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    I wouldn't go over 80mm unless you do a fair bit in snow or bogs.
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    Definitely stick with 65mm. I ride my fatbike primarily on dirt. The Rolling Darryls are too wide, they flatten out the tire too much for singletrack.
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