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    Redemption of the Ice Cream Truck

    Since December 2015 I've been rocking my trusty Surly Ice Cream Truck. Thousands of miles and hundreds of rides, as well as a lot of craziness, falling through ice, hitting huge snow jumps, mountain biking, rim strikes, you name it.

    In February I picked up a 9:Zero:7 frame for a killer deal and threw all the parts from the ICT on it. I thought I was done with the Ice Cream Truck and even put it for sale, to receive lots of interest but no buyer.

    Yesterday I decided it's time to build Big Blue back up and use her some more. I miss my heavy steel bomber bike. This time however, it will be a slow careful build as I already have a bike to ride.

    I've already thoroughly cleaned the frame/fork/cranks of all grease and grime. The bottle cage bolts were stuck pretty tight in the frame even though I greased them last year (presumably breaking through ice into deep water in singe digit temps helped clear out the grease).

    Stay tuned for pictures and updates, this will not be a quick build. I'll be buying parts as deals present themselves. Maybe she'll be even better than before

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    I should add that a major part of why I ditched the ICT was the lack of SRAM compatible MDS chips and the fact that Surly kept throwing fake dates into the air. Around February they began ignoring my emails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    I should add that a major part of why I ditched the ICT was the lack of SRAM compatible MDS chips and the fact that Surly kept throwing fake dates into the air. Around February they began ignoring my emails.

    What is "SRAM compatible" about the MDS chips? Serious question.

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    Maybe he means the extended direct-mount arm that eliminates the need for the B-link? Not sure that is SRAM specific though.

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    Mike, what I meant is that Surly makes two different sets of thru axle MDS chips.

    1) Shimano direct mount ONLY. This chipset will only take a Shimano direct mount rear derailleur.

    2) Just a standard derailleur hanger that is compatible with SRAM, Shimano, Box, chain tensioners, you name it. It also has 14mm of fore/aft making it singlespeed compatible. The "quiver killer" chip if you will.

    The second is what I meant by "SRAM compatible". This chip is finally available after over two years of waiting. I was becoming increasingly frustrated with Surly for always projecting about three months out for the chips time after time. Eventually I voiced my concern about this to them, which is when they decided to start ignoring me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    This chip is finally available after over two years of waiting. I was becoming increasingly frustrated with Surly for always projecting about three months out for the chips time after time....
    How it was in the early days. Maybe they were just playing you, for old times sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Mike, what I meant is that Surly makes two different sets of thru axle MDS chips.

    1) Shimano direct mount ONLY. This chipset will only take a Shimano direct mount rear derailleur.

    2) Just a standard derailleur hanger that is compatible with SRAM, Shimano, Box, chain tensioners, you name it. It also has 14mm of fore/aft making it singlespeed compatible. The "quiver killer" chip if you will.

    The second is what I meant by "SRAM compatible". This chip is finally available after over two years of waiting. I was becoming increasingly frustrated with Surly for always projecting about three months out for the chips time after time. Eventually I voiced my concern about this to them, which is when they decided to start ignoring me.
    Are you referring to the Surly FS2009 dropout? I thought that has been available for well over a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    Are you referring to the Surly FS2009 dropout? I thought that has been available for well over a year?
    I am and no they have not been available over a year at least in the USA.

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    yup,i just picked up a set after owning my ict for like 1 1/2 years,seemed like a big oversight on their part to release a bike frame you couldnt buy parts for...and like you ive ended up getting another fat bike,in my case a bucksaw...

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    Does anybody know off the top of their head what Chris King headset is correct for the ICT?

    My CC 40 is a little rough and while I could get new bearings I may just dive in to the anodizing pool (hehe).

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    for the stock fork?
    i think an inset2? not sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    for the stock fork?
    i think an inset2? not sure...
    Interesting, looks like an internal headset on the bottom unlike the CC. I'll look into it.

    Thanks Hamster

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    Update time!

    I have a few goodies for the ICT!

    1. Thomson Elite 30.9x367 post. This post will replace my old scratched up post, will be lighter (I could care less) and will look nice. Thomson is also made in the US and is known for its strength which is something I appreciate.

    2. I am replacing all the rusted steel bolts with Ti ones (must remember the Ti anti-seize).They are blue and super trick, lighter (yawn) and will not rust even though I ride my bike in salt daily in the winter months.

    I would like some opinions on wheels though:

    Should I run the original 26x100 Clownshoe wheels with Vee 2XLs? Or Bontrager Wampa wheels with 27.5x4.5 Gnarwhals? Both should be killer, open to any and all input.

    Stay tuned for pics!

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    27.5! 26 is so 4 years ago!

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    Looking for some corrosion protection for your frame?

    On my last frame i used "Fluid Film". It's awesome stuff. I use it on my chain too.

    It dries to a waxy oily film but it is all natural and lanolin based. Highly recommended.

    Be sure to wipe all excess off chain and let dry before a ride for best results. I'll wipe it down again after a ride as some gets pressed out during ride.
    Last edited by Kirkerik; 08-10-2017 at 08:58 PM.
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    27.5! 26 is so 4 years ago!
    You got it Hamster!

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    UPDATE: Bontrager Wampa Carbon (O_o) wheels have been acquired at a great price. They sure are light and purdy.

    On a trial smasher I'd be worried about cracking them but this bike will mostly see 8+" of fresh snow, or hardpack snow. Going to run 27.5x4.5 Gnarwhals which should be great.

    I also still have the original silver Clownshoes, and I got a set of 3.8" studded Gnarwhals for the ice. Couldn't pass them up! $80 for a PAIR with under 10 miles on them

    And as a side note, I also got a pair of bar mitts. Pics of the complete bike will be coming soon!

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    Where did you get the Wampa wheels from? I have been thinking of going that route.

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    Smart man. The Wampa's are the most durable carbon rims I've seen or ridden to date. Bomber tubeless interface too, and so easy to tape and inflate. They are, truly, the way tubeless should always have been, and the way more (most) rims should be designed and implemented in the future.

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    So I've been slacking off building the ICT and enjoying the 100* weather on other bikes...

    I have a three hour race Saturday and I got new wheels for the bike I was gonna race and they sent me the wrong endcaps!

    My old wheels are sold

    I need to get this baby together and rollin' ASAP! Wish me luck, I should be able to pull it off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Smart man. The Wampa's are the most durable carbon rims I've seen or ridden to date. Bomber tubeless interface too, and so easy to tape and inflate. They are, truly, the way tubeless should always have been, and the way more (most) rims should be designed and implemented in the future.
    I agree Mike. I put on some Hodags, gave 'em a nice hard slap and I they sealed up before the pump was even on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    Where did you get the Wampa wheels from? I have been thinking of going that route.
    Craigslist!

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    I got the bike together, raced it, and got third place! Not bad at all

    I'd say that's a pretty dang good redemption... now for some snow in a few months.

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    What did you pay for your Ice Cream Truck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6foot4 View Post
    What did you pay for your Ice Cream Truck?
    God only knows, I've had it for years. It was originally $1600 new but I've thrown way to many upgrades at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    I got the bike together, raced it, and got third place! Not bad at all
    congrats on the finish!

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    Any pictures of the revamped ICT?!

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    Yea, pictures please.

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    Pictures will be coming very soon... a few blingilicious goodies early next week and then into the studio for pics (by studio I mean my local MTB trail).

    Current setup!

    20" Surly ICT frame (blue)
    Wren Dual Air 120mm 15x150 fork
    Nextie 50mm rims with Framed Pub Hubs (This setup is about to change)
    Bontrager Hodag 27.5x3.8 tires
    Random 180/160 rotors (getting Hope Floating 180/180s next week)
    Magura MT8 Raceline brakes
    Shimano SLX rear derailleur
    Shimano SLX shifter
    Shimano XT 11 speed cassette with 11-13-16 instead of 11-13-15-17 so I have 11-42T 10 speed. Works great.
    SRAM PC-1031 chain
    Surly OD crank with 30T chainring from I don't remember anymore.
    Bontrager Line Pro pedals
    Shimano Saint bottom bracket
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Bontrager Line Pro 35 70mm stem (40mm has been purchased)
    Controltech Lynx 800mm bars
    ESI grips
    2x Specialized Zee cages

    Yup, I likely forgot half the parts on the bike. I'm not in front of it right now.

    I'm putting on a SRAM GX 1x11 setup with gripshift soon, temps get cold in winter and gripshift is nice with thick gloves/mittens. Shoutout to Rodney Jekyl for the hookup on the ultra rare unicorn X01 grip shifter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Jekyl View Post
    congrats on the finish!
    Thanks

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    Redemption of the Ice Cream Truck-22219469_302325696911786_481674260_o.jpg

    She's done!

    Sneak photo.

    20" ICT frame
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Wren 150 fork
    Controltech Lynx 40mm stem
    Controltech Lynx 800mm bars
    ESI black grips
    Magura MT8 NEXT brakes
    Hope blue floating 180mm rotors
    Shimano Saint BB
    Surly OD crankset sandblasted
    30T chainring
    Shimano XT 11 speed 11-40 cassette modded to be 10 speed.
    Shimano SLX M675 derailleur
    Shimano SLX M675 shifter
    SRAM PC-1031 chain
    Nextie Asym 38 laced to Framed Pub Hub with Wheelsmith DB spokes front
    Nextie Asym 38 laced to Stans hub with Wheelsmith DB spokes rear
    Onza Canis 2.85 skinwall tires
    Bontrager Line Pro pedals
    Specialized Zee cages
    Specialized Romin Expert saddle
    Thomson 30.9x367 seatpost (soon to be Fox Transfer, thanks Rodney Jekyl!)


    Also has Surly Rolling Darryl/Salsa hub wheelset with studded Gnarwhals
    SunRingle Mulefut 80/Salsa hub wheelset with 4.8 Minions
    Clownshoe/Salsa hub wheelset with no tires
    Bontrager Wampa wheelset with 4" Cake Eater (tires have not yet arrived)

    If I forgot some parts let me know and I will put them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
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    She's done!

    Sneak photo.

    20" ICT frame
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Wren 150 fork
    Controltech Lynx 40mm stem
    Controltech Lynx 800mm bars
    ESI black grips
    Magura MT8 NEXT brakes
    Hope blue floating 180mm rotors
    Shimano Saint BB
    Surly OD crankset sandblasted
    30T chainring
    Shimano XT 11 speed 11-40 cassette modded to be 10 speed.
    Shimano SLX M675 derailleur
    Shimano SLX M675 shifter
    SRAM PC-1031 chain
    Nextie Asym 38 laced to Framed Pub Hub with Wheelsmith DB spokes front
    Nextie Asym 38 laced to Stans hub with Wheelsmith DB spokes rear
    Onza Canis 2.85 skinwall tires
    Bontrager Line Pro pedals
    Specialized Zee cages
    Specialized Romin Expert saddle
    Thomson 30.9x367 seatpost (soon to be Fox Transfer, thanks Rodney Jekyl!)


    Also has Surly Rolling Darryl/Salsa hub wheelset with studded Gnarwhals
    SunRingle Mulefut 80/Salsa hub wheelset with 4.8 Minions
    Clownshoe/Salsa hub wheelset with no tires
    Bontrager Wampa wheelset with 4" Cake Eater (tires have not yet arrived)

    If I forgot some parts let me know and I will put them down.
    Wow! That looks nice. How does it ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benmcgill View Post
    Wow! That looks nice. How does it ride?
    It rallies! I love it!

    That being said, I, er, MUST GET MY HANDS ON A SET OF SUNRISE BARS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post

    Nextie 50mm rims with Framed Pub Hubs (This setup is about to change)
    what ya doing w them?
    29x50?
    how ya like the pub hubs?
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    your ride looks pretty sweet w the plus tires!

    you using an 11s cassette w a 10s shifters? Did you have to drill the rivets and change the spacing or was it close enough?

    My guess is it is close enough
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    what ya doing w them?
    29x50?
    how ya like the pub hubs?
    I like em! 27.5x38mm. Gonna do 27.5x50mm.

    If you want them they're for sale actually!

    They work great with plus tires and handle awesome but I'm into the super low pressures and so a wider rim works better for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    your ride looks pretty sweet w the plus tires!

    you using an 11s cassette w a 10s shifters? Did you have to drill the rivets and change the spacing or was it close enough?

    My guess is it is close enough
    Thanks!

    I removed the 15 and 17 cog and replaced with a 16. So it is 11-13-16 blah blah instead of 11-13-15-17.

    Spacing is bang on, it shifts great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    I like em! 27.5x38mm. Gonna do 27.5x50mm.

    If you want them they're for sale actually!

    They work great with plus tires and handle awesome but I'm into the super low pressures and so a wider rim works better for me.
    Huh? I don't quite follow. You have 38mm x 27.5 but want 50mm x 27.5?

    i thought you had 50mm already. Or is that in 29"?
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Huh? I don't quite follow. You have 38mm x 27.5 but want 50mm x 27.5?

    i thought you had 50mm already. Or is that in 29"?
    Oh that was a booboo...

    if you look at the second parts list in the post with the picture you'll see I made it 38mm.

    Hope that helps

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    And yes, I want to sell the 38 for 50s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Thanks!

    I removed the 15 and 17 cog and replaced with a 16. So it is 11-13-16 blah blah instead of 11-13-15-17.

    Spacing is bang on, it shifts great.
    i was wondering 'bout that spacing difference. Makes sense if ya want the range of 11s but want to run the 10s shiter ya have. Sweet!
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    i was wondering 'bout that spacing difference. Makes sense if ya want the range of 11s but want to run the 10s shiter ya have. Sweet!
    Yeah it was a spur of the moment hack, but it turned out to work great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    And yes, I want to sell the 38 for 50s.
    The 38's are 27.5? Right?
    I'm actually interested in some 29's
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    The 38's are 27.5? Right?
    I'm actually interested in some 29's
    Wayne at Speedgear Bike Shop is your guy. Best prices in this galaxy.

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    You run your truck w the axle all the way forward with your 27.5+ setup?

    Chainstay get any shorter than 450mm?
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    450 is shortest and yes it can run slammed forward even with 29+ wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Wayne at Speedgear Bike Shop is your guy. Best prices in this galaxy.
    I'll check it out! thanks
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    450 is shortest and yes it can run slammed forward even with 29+ wheels.
    Cool. I'm sure it handles great! I was real close to getting ICT but ended up on a 907 Whiteout. That has 467mm stays and it rides great! Rails the turns too. Very stable and climbs like a goat.

    I bet that ICT is real nice. Fits the 2xl too!
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Cool. I'm sure it handles great! I was real close to getting ICT but ended up on a 907 Whiteout. That has 467mm stays and it rides great! Rails the turns too. Very stable and climbs like a goat.

    I bet that ICT is real nice. Fits the 2xl too!
    I had a Whiteout for a short while and didn't like it as much, but still an awesome bike.

    I love me a Surly

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    What the?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    What the?
    Inverted photo + inverted fork = regular fork?

    #altfacts #fakenews
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    Quote Originally Posted by tims5377 View Post
    Inverted photo + inverted fork = regular fork?

    #altfacts #fakenews
    YEAH!!! Got me a Mastodon just like that!

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    fixedRedemption of the Ice Cream Truck-charge_ict_flip.jpg

    sweet ass rig yo

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    sweet ass rig yo
    Thanks and thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Thanks and thanks!
    Very tempting to do something like this to my ICT. Still climbs and handles well with fork raked out like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benmcgill View Post
    Very tempting to do something like this to my ICT. Still climbs and handles well with fork raked out like that?
    Climbs better than ever because I can really get the weight over the front end. Handles great.

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    The ICT is gonna get torn down again very soon, but for a good reason:

    She's going to Walt's place!

    1/ getting seat tube brace removed
    2/ getting BB shell reamed to fit RF170 cranks
    3/ getting dropper port installed
    4/ getting cable guides installed
    5/ getting swanky new paint job

    WOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!


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    Sweet! That's awesome.

    One thing that kept me away from the ICT was the press fit BB shell

    Going with the threaded adapter on the BB?
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Hey Cooker,
    have you tried both b+ and 29+ on your ICT?

    I'm having a hard time deciding on which set up to go on my fatty. I know I'd like to try the plus for summer.
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post
    Hey Cooker,
    have you tried both b+ and 29+ on your ICT?

    I'm having a hard time deciding on which set up to go on my fatty. I know I'd like to try the plus for summer.
    I have tried B+ and 29+! 29+ is great on a bike like a Krampus, but on a fatbike it makes the BB too high for fast trail riding in my opinion.

    B+ all day (at least for me).

    29+ is absolutely great, but only on a 29+ bike.

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    Redemption of the Ice Cream Truck-walt.jpg

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    That looks awesome!

    What dimension has the bb been reduced to? PF bearings in order or are you adapting something?
    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact with the trail.

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    cool! what color you going with? green, i like green....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkerik View Post

    What dimension has the bb been reduced to?
    Very interested to hear this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    I have tried B+ and 29+! 29+ is great on a bike like a Krampus, but on a fatbike it makes the BB too high for fast trail riding in my opinion.

    B+ all day (at least for me).

    29+ is absolutely great, but only on a 29+ bike.
    I love 29+ on my truck. I prefer it to full fat except on snow. Rolls over everything. BB does not feel way too high to me. I've had a blast on that setup in Colorado and Michigan. From rocky technical to both tight and fast woods. Have not ridden it in B+ though, I have a dedicated bike for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    cool! what color you going with? green, i like green....
    Pretty pumped to see how this turns out! Wouldn't be surprised if Surly did something like this to the ICT in future but with a threaded bottom bracket and shorter chainstays. Hope they keep the ICT around, I love mine.

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    I'd like to see the clearance for the stays once you put in the PF RF Cinch cranks. You're improving a pretty cool ride to begin with, so it will be exciting to see the finished project.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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