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    No good People who don't like fat bikers

    Sometimes you meet people who hate the very idea of fat biking and would love to give you a piece of their mind about it. People who have no sense of decency and berates a stranger for their mode of transportation. This is particularly a phenomenon if you ride in the winter and travel in the habitat of the skiers, who are under the illusion that they are the sole proprietor of all things winter.

    So blow off some steam, tell us your stories about fat bike hate, and revel in the glory of the haters ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy-jeff View Post
    don`t not doesn`t
    And here we have someone who doesn't like poor grammar.

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    I was riding my 29er on the road and some roadies going the other way didn't wave back. The next day I was riding my fat bike on the trail and some 26ers didn't say hi back to me. I am so butt hurt right now I may just bin all my bikes and become a runner.

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    I'm inventing a self powered winter Zorb.
    The hate will be simply exquisite!
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    Our trails and XC ski trails cross paths a few times and has led to many rude comments. One night I was climbing a long slow hill with 3 T6 lights blazing when 2 XC skiers almost T boned me and a friend, they had no lights on a dimly lit ski trail. I stopped about 100' later for hydration and to ask friend what they said. I could hear them talking about how fat bikes don't belong in the woods and how he had six pairs of ski's and would not even think of buying one of those things. The funny thing was the guy he was talking to said he had one and they are a blast, shut him up real fast.

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    Moose don't like fat bikers. They're big bullies and they chase me with the intention of beating me up, just because of my bike.

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    Well, not exactly fat biking, but about 28 years ago, some drunks in a beater dodge spun some donuts around me in a gravel parking lot when I was getting a sixer on my old Schwinn cruiser. One of 'em even shouted "Yeehaw!" out the window. Then they headed up the road... Not knowing how much I hate bike haters....

    I found their car parked outside of the tavern where I suspected that they might be headed. I looked thru the window, and they were all sitting at the bar with their backs to the window and parking lot, and swilling on their beers.
    I figured these drunken idiots should not be driving.
    It was starting to rain, and that meant that visibility would be poor for any drunken drivers whose eyes were trying to focus on the raindrops on the windshield (a known phenomenon).
    I knew that I had to take action, for the safety of all concerned.
    I had a pocket knife.
    When the tav closed, I would have loved to have been there to see the expression on their faces, but I was probably already home sleeping. There was a tire dealer just on the other side of the parking lot, so I'm sure they could replace all four of those flats!

    So bike haters of any kind will be better off if they stay out of my face.

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    After hanging out here for the past year, I'm of the mind that I don't like fatbikers either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    After hanging out here for the past year, I'm of the mind that I don't like fatbikers either.
    Be thy the pot or the kettle, there's no place like home.

    Anyone with such attitudes about relative rights-of-usage will be told to fork off. Simple. Never heard any of it. Not to my face.
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    On a good note, a buddy of mine always gets roosted and receives negativity from snowmobilers. He is now on a 907 fatty, and his first time out with it, the snowmobilers stopped to chat about his cool fatbike.

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    I was riding my 29er on the road and some roadies going the other way didn't wave
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    I was riding my fat bike on the trail and some 26ers didn't say hi
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    Hey: let's remove fat bikes from the conversation here.

    CHANGE

    A good portion of people dislike change. A portion of that portion are very vocal. A portion of the portion of the original portion cannot recognize that a change is inevitable and subsequently deal with it in their heads.

    These folks will latch onto one particular noun as the CAUSE of the CHANGE and therefore it is the ENEMY. US vs THEM. Remember how the majority of us have the debating skills of a rhesus monkey once we get a little shot of adrenaline flowing.

    I've been chewed out for doing volunteer trail maintenance, on the notion that it provides a path through the woods for kids to go hide and do ILLICIT DRUGS (someone came unglued on me, little did she know I was raised by people like her and was not impressed or scared). I gave a spiel, city wanted more through traffic to discourage drug users in the woods at a family park, another opportunity for families to do fitness things together in a safe place, etc etc.

    It doesn't matter how cordial you are sometimes. Doesn't matter your reasoning, however sound it may be. You should still try to reach out - but someone is eventually going to be an ass to you for petty reasons.

    Don't let that stop you from trying to be cordial.

    Also use the following thought as something to ease your mind: people who hate you are the distressed party in your little micro relationship with them. They are spending negative energy on you. Meanwhile, you are just riding your bike. It has taken me a long time to find fundamental reasons why I should be nice when a good portion of society motivates me to be nasty. That is one reliable reason: that some jerk is flailing, suffering on my account, simply by my existence?

    Yes, that will do. A fine form of revenge.
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    Some people always have to hate something - it gives them something to focus on.

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    I don`t like fatbikers who pick faults with fatbikers grammer

    Here in the UK we have a cycling forum for fatbike haterz. It is called STW
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    Re: People who don't like fat bikers

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    don`t not doesn`t
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    And here we have someone who doesn't like poor grammar.
    And that uses ` (backtick) instead of the proper ' (apostrophe).....

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    There`s people who hate fatbikes ?

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    People who don't like fat bikers

    Everyone I've come across on the trails have been very interested in my FB and many would love to get one. It helps to always be friendly and yield the right of way if appropriate.

    I've dealt with hikers, joggers, snowmobiles, dog walkers and skiers with no issues at all.

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    Fat Bike Haters...nah...Some people just hate life.

    As a truck driver, stories could be told about autos, bicycles, and people on foot. And yes, about fellow drivers.

    One of the unbelievable was told to me the other day from a fellow driver, he had been in a downtown section of Eugene Or. delivering rock with a set of doubles. As the site was quite muddy, water was sprayed on the tires upon exit to reduce the tracking of mud onto the street; the truck speed was quite slow.

    People would step over the connecting reach while the truck was moving...slip and fall...?

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    If I hate myself, and am a fatbiker, does it then follow that I hate fatbikers?

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    It is strange that people have do much hate. My riding bud almost went toe to toe with someone who was making fun of his truck because it was a Toyota and anti American (which was made in Tennessee). He was driving a Dodge (made it Mexico). Why the hate? Love everybody!!!

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    My fat bike hates fat bikers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Hey: let's remove fat bikes from the conversation here.

    CHANGE

    A good portion of people dislike change. A portion of that portion are very vocal. A portion of the portion of the original portion cannot recognize that a change is inevitable and subsequently deal with it in their heads.

    These folks will latch onto one particular noun as the CAUSE of the CHANGE and therefore it is the ENEMY. US vs THEM. Remember how the majority of us have the debating skills of a rhesus monkey once we get a little shot of adrenaline flowing.

    I've been chewed out for doing volunteer trail maintenance, on the notion that it provides a path through the woods for kids to go hide and do ILLICIT DRUGS (someone came unglued on me, little did she know I was raised by people like her and was not impressed or scared). I gave a spiel, city wanted more through traffic to discourage drug users in the woods at a family park, another opportunity for families to do fitness things together in a safe place, etc etc.

    It doesn't matter how cordial you are sometimes. Doesn't matter your reasoning, however sound it may be. You should still try to reach out - but someone is eventually going to be an ass to you for petty reasons.

    Don't let that stop you from trying to be cordial.

    Also use the following thought as something to ease your mind: people who hate you are the distressed party in your little micro relationship with them. They are spending negative energy on you. Meanwhile, you are just riding your bike. It has taken me a long time to find fundamental reasons why I should be nice when a good portion of society motivates me to be nasty. That is one reliable reason: that some jerk is flailing, suffering on my account, simply by my existence?

    Yes, that will do. A fine form of revenge.
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    Awesome post applicable to so much of life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    If I hate myself, and am a fatbiker, does it then follow that I hate fatbikers?
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    People who hate fat bikers just need to realize we eat so much to fill a certain emotional need. Maybe if they were nicer to us we wouldn't be so fat. But you know, it's always "hey fatty" or "that tire is huge" (making fun of your spare tire around the gut). It's just rude. I wish people would leave our weight out of it. We are good people.
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    I've yet to really run into any hate. But then, I'm not really an @sshole when I ride.

    Mostly I get folks who want to talk about fatbikes. Many times these people are actually on XC skis.

    If I may, if you are getting hate, it might be because you are being a d!ck. I XC ski. And it sucks when some inconsiderate prick destroys the groomed trail with boots, snowshoes or a bike. If you are gonna ride on groomed trails (which is about the only place yer gonna get grief for riding), be courteous. Ride as far to the side of the groomed trail as possible, opposite the classic ski tracks. Don't ride in the middle of the skate ski section, just stay to one edge. Don't pass skate skiers without saying "on yer left" or something- they are not expecting you to be behind them. Don't pass skiers on downhill sections. just be polite.

    And remember, you ARE on their turf. They're used to having it all to themselves. They've got a view of their sport as silent and peaceful. Don't make a spectacle of yourself, be polite. There are times when a deferential attitude will go a long way to getting you invited back. And also remember, when you're a d!ck, you make the rest of us look like d!cks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckfiddious View Post
    I've yet to really run into any hate. But then, I'm not really an @sshole when I ride.
    You know, that's the expectation that I'd like to see. This should be the norm.

    Sounds like Innota's experience was more like unprovoked hate. I actually haven't seen it either when around skiers! But some friends have had it happen unprovoked, and I believe them, as the particular guys I'm thinking of are decent people. Sometimes it does just happen.

    Innota it sounds like you would benefit more from a beer with a friend and a rant about this one. I've tried describing confrontations on that net before and sometimes it goes... not smoothly. Take this as friendly advice rather than a lecture, as the former is intended...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iscariot View Post
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    Awesome post applicable to so much of life...

    *slowclap
    Yeah now maybe if I could live by my own words better... THEN it might be awesome.
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    Every single skier I've come across has been friendly and curious about my bike, except for one guy. He said he would appreciate it if I wouldn't ride on the ski trails. I calmly explained to him that I'm actually causing less of a footprint than skier poles. He responded with, "Well, I'm not going to argue with you. These are ski trails." He just didn't care to listen, much less consider that I might be right. He just wanted to be legalistic. So I said, "Okay, I'll leave." I let him take off for a bit and followed him pretty far back until I came to a road crossing I could return to my vehicle by. This was a couple weeks ago, but I'm going to try the same place again tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetiski View Post
    I could hear them talking about how fat bikes don't belong in the woods and how he had six pairs of ski's and would not even think of buying one of those things. The funny thing was the guy he was talking to said he had one and they are a blast, shut him up real fast.
    I imagine the first guy's ego to be the small cat in this rendering of your situation.
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    Sorry

    Sorry, I meant to add this after that sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marathon marke View Post
    Every single skier I've come across has been friendly and curious about my bike, except for one guy. He said he would appreciate it if I wouldn't ride on the ski trails. I calmly explained to him that I'm actually causing less of a footprint than skier poles. He responded with, "Well, I'm not going to argue with you. These are ski trails." He just didn't care to listen, much less consider that I might be right. He just wanted to be legalistic. So I said, "Okay, I'll leave." I let him take off for a bit and followed him pretty far back until I came to a road crossing I could return to my vehicle by. This was a couple weeks ago, but I'm going to try the same place again tomorrow.
    I dunno how it is in Milwaukee but...up here in Duluth, the xc skiers DO own the ski trails in the winter. they pay for a pass that pays for the grooming. legalisticly (??) the bikers don't have the right to be on the trails, along w/ walkers and runners.

    you, my friend, may be the reason bikes will always have a bad reputation....
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    Ski pass in Duluth $20 yearly all the revenue they contribute is used up in 1 day of grooming and lights and they own the ski trails ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbykr©™ View Post
    I dunno how it is in Milwaukee but...up here in Duluth, the xc skiers DO own the ski trails in the winter. they pay for a pass that pays for the grooming. legalisticly (??) the bikers don't have the right to be on the trails, along w/ walkers and runners.

    you, my friend, may be the reason bikes will always have a bad reputation....
    You, my "friend", may be wrong. These trails I am referring to are actually used by hikers, dog walkers, snow shoes, and skiers. These are not trails that skiers pay to get groomed. These are trails that every taxpayer in the county pays for. I skied for 20 years (classic and skate) back when we used to have consistent snow, I know what ruins trails for skiers and what doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innota View Post

    So blow off some steam, tell us your stories about fat bike hate, and revel in the glory of the haters ignorance.




    No. Why perpetuate it?

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    IMO, it's a case of people having enough of the fatbike fanboys.

    From all I've seen written (especially over the past year), fatbikes are the end-all to any less-than-perfect trail situation. I hear repeatedly how they can float over any surface with ease, where 'normal' MTBs fear to tread; "This ride is for fatbikes only, I don't think you can ride it on your MTB". On almost every mixed-bike snow rides I've been on, we all hike the same sections, MTB & fatbike alike. The mantra of "Just lower the pressure & go anywhere" rings in my ears constantly from real-life mates & those online.

    I love the bikes themselves (versatility is their best asset), but the idolization/adoration by the fan-boys is too over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    It's not just people.
    I wonder where Yahweh's favorite ski trail is? I haven't seen any ghosts in my neck of the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johanneson View Post
    I wonder where Yahweh's favorite ski trail is? I haven't seen any ghosts in my neck of the woods.
    He randomly picks a different trail every day. Then he rains down a plague of self-steer or brake howl upon any fat biker who dares to venture there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosefFritzl View Post
    IMO, it's a case of people having enough of the fatbike fanboys.

    From all I've seen written (especially over the past year), fatbikes are the end-all to any less-than-perfect trail situation. I hear repeatedly how they can float over any surface with ease, where 'normal' MTBs fear to tread; "This ride is for fatbikes only, I don't think you can ride it on your MTB". On almost every mixed-bike snow rides I've been on, we all hike the same sections, MTB & fatbike alike. The mantra of "Just lower the pressure & go anywhere" rings in my ears constantly from real-life mates & those online.

    I'm not sure if I agree that the rabid fanboy mentality is responsible for hatred from the general public. I don't think they're even aware of this blind behavior, since they all have "normal" lives to live. JMHO

    I love the bikes themselves (versatility is their best asset), but the idolization/adoration by the fan-boys is too over the top.
    I agree that may trails can be ridden with a standard mtn bike when some people claim only a fat bike will work. OTOH, I have personally witness even the difference in how well a fat tire can perform, given on tire width alone. In a recent race, I was riding through several sections with my 4.8" Bud/Lou combo, when many of the standard 3.8" tires had to dab and even walk at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marathon marke View Post
    I agree that may trails can be ridden with a standard mtn bike when some people claim only a fat bike will work. OTOH, I have personally witness even the difference in how well a fat tire can perform, given on tire width alone. In a recent race, I was riding through several sections with my 4.8" Bud/Lou combo, when many of the standard 3.8" tires had to dab and even walk at times.
    Obese bike fanboy .

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    Just ran into a dog that hated fat bikes. Bit my leg. Cross country skier handler (off leash), didn't even apoligize for her dog's behavior. When the fog bit me, I yelled at it. Should've kicked the owner but I was trying to keep the dog from puncturing my leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    It's not just people.
    Must be why I got 2 flats the other day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soloracer View Post
    Just ran into a dog that hated fat bikes. Bit my leg. Cross country skier handler (off leash), didn't even apoligize for her dog's behavior. When the fog bit me, I yelled at it. Should've kicked the owner but I was trying to keep the dog from puncturing my leg.
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SmooveP again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosefFritzl View Post
    IMO, it's a case of people having enough of the fatbike fanboys.

    From all I've seen written (especially over the past year), fatbikes are the end-all to any less-than-perfect trail situation. I hear repeatedly how they can float over any surface with ease, where 'normal' MTBs fear to tread; "This ride is for fatbikes only, I don't think you can ride it on your MTB". On almost every mixed-bike snow rides I've been on, we all hike the same sections, MTB & fatbike alike. The mantra of "Just lower the pressure & go anywhere" rings in my ears constantly from real-life mates & those online.

    I love the bikes themselves (versatility is their best asset), but the idolization/adoration by the fan-boys is too over the top.
    Nailed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by marathon marke View Post
    I agree that may trails can be ridden with a standard mtn bike when some people claim only a fat bike will work. OTOH, I have personally witness even the difference in how well a fat tire can perform, given on tire width alone. In a recent race, I was riding through several sections with my 4.8" Bud/Lou combo, when many of the standard 3.8" tires had to dab and even walk at times.
    Case in point.
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    Heh. This same sort of thread was very, very popular when 29ers where gathering steam.

    In other news: some people dislike things that you like, for whatever reason. Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Obese bike fanboy .
    LOL...I resemble that. No wait, I'm kind of a lightweight, but my bike does!
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