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    Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

    I've been riding pre production samples for about a week and its a fast tire, better grip then a knard, light mine came in at 1270.... really digPanaracer Fat B Nimble!-1938099_10152816832454968_2037764312_n.jpgPanaracer Fat B Nimble!-10173473_10152816565144968_1503804008_n.jpg

    More photos thurs and friday

    Here are the specs from panaracer and should be ready to buy in June!

    1180 grams in a kevlar bead, 120 tpi casing. No weight yet on the 60 tpi wire bead. MSRP for Kevlar bead is 90.00, and 60.00 for the wire bead.
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    oh threw tires on both a marge lite and a carbondale
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    Now we're talking. Reminds me a little of a HuDu.

    So that's 84mm on the ML?
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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    Now we're talking. Reminds me a little of a HuDu.

    So that's 84mm on the ML?
    Yup
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    Nice, more tire options!

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    Now $90 is a somewhat reasonable price for a 120 tpi fat tire. Glad more cheaper options are starting to enter the market

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    Big fan of panaracer (pun intended).
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    Sweet!
    Can you measure the bead to bead width with the tire unmounted and laid flat?

    I've got more Snowshoe XL protos coming in now for some testing during Easter. One studded version and one unstudded. New compound that should reduce the tendency to have snow sticking to them. (that stickiness is plain awesome on all other surfaces, though, so a tradeoff)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    Sweet!
    Can you measure the bead to bead width with the tire unmounted and laid flat?

    I've got more Snowshoe XL protos coming in now for some testing during Easter. One studded version and one unstudded. New compound that should reduce the tendency to have snow sticking to them. (that stickiness is plain awesome on all other surfaces, though, so a tradeoff)
    here you go....Panaracer Fat B Nimble!-1622772_10152837784834968_4938205570004682869_n.jpgPanaracer Fat B Nimble!-10177969_10152837786069968_4353968119087357128_n.jpg
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    Thanks!

    Looks like right around 217mm.
    I have measured a pair of nates to 220mm, so pretty much spot on the same volume, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    Thanks!

    Looks like right around 217mm.
    I have measured a pair of nates to 220mm, so pretty much spot on the same volume, then.
    tread isn't as deep as a nate but much deeper then a knard and maybe similar to a husker du
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    Yep, looks like a great allrounder with fairly low rolling resistance when run with the ramps facing forward, and good climbing traction with the rear run in the reverse direction.
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    I like the price points predicted. Options are good. Very, very good.

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    When will I be able to get my grubby mitts on a pair of these for my bike?
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    Hmmm...

    Being reminded this last ride (muddy instead of snow) of how poor the side bite seems to be on the Floaters, these "LOOK" like they have the potential to replace that tire as the best all around choice. Very nice pricing too!
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    june they should be in stock....
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    Have you noticed any tendency for 'self steer' at high or low air pressures?
    I'd love to try these tires out up here in the Ogden area when they are available if there isn't any issues with self steer.
    I am currently running Vee Rubber Vee8's and at lower pressure they can be a handfull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boardguru View Post
    Have you noticed any tendency for 'self steer' at high or low air pressures?
    I'd love to try these tires out up here in the Ogden area when they are available if there isn't any issues with self steer.
    I am currently running Vee Rubber Vee8's and at lower pressure they can be a handfull.
    You most likely will encounter that issue with most fat tires at low pressure, nature of the beast so to speak...

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    Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

    Quote Originally Posted by AKCheesehead View Post
    You most likely will encounter that issue with most fat tires at low pressure, nature of the beast so to speak...
    The degree of self steer varies hugely for tire (tread) to tire. I have used some with almost none at any pressure, and others that were borderline dangerous at most pressures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    The degree of self steer varies hugely for tire (tread) to tire. I have used some with almost none at any pressure, and others that were borderline dangerous at most pressures.
    Interesting... I've ridden summer and winter on various tires but never felt a significant amount of self steer that it anything that I would consider dangerous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boardguru View Post
    Have you noticed any tendency for 'self steer' at high or low air pressures?
    I'd love to try these tires out up here in the Ogden area when they are available if there isn't any issues with self steer.
    I am currently running Vee Rubber Vee8's and at lower pressure they can be a handfull.
    some at 6psi or lower. i'm 195 right now for your reference 8psi sees to be sweet spot for me so far with these tires, headed to leadville sat for some real snow racing so i'll see how they do there
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    June is almost here! If anyone has 60tpi specs, please post them!

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    my v8's are getting tired. must have me some fbn!

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    Re: Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

    I only wish companies would start making designing their fat tires with a bit more shoulder tread wrap like the Nate, for off camber slick rock faces and the like.

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    Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

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    I only wish companies would start making designing their fat tires with a bit more shoulder tread wrap like the Nate, for off camber slick rock faces and the like.
    You mean like the Floater?

    The FbN looks fairly good in that regard.
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    Anyone know if QBP is going to have these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJay View Post

    holy cow, cost on these badboys is incredible! I'll definitely see about ordering up a set instead of the H-billies.

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    Any updates on these tires in the dirt? How are do they compare to the HuDu's?

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    i'm under the impression that they are a bit more knobby/loose conditions friendly than the hudu. similar weight, half the price=win.

    waiting.........120 version please........

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    Think these will be the next tyre for me too once they come out in 120 tpi, my knards are nearly done!

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    Looks really similar. Really, really similar.
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    Taiter, that's crazy, I thought that Panaracer made the 'good' tires in Japan, I wonder when that one 'fell off the truck'... I don't think I'm going to be the lab rat on that one, especially on the front end.

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    They look awesome! Think that there's any hope they'll be releasing a 24" version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJay View Post
    Checking J&B today the ETA is now 8/30/14......

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    heh, typical. glad i ordered some 120 tpi 3.8 knards yesterday from qbp. they'll be good n worn out by the time the fbn arrive in october:P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bme107 View Post
    Checking J&B today the ETA is now 8/30/14......
    Updating this another month later: ETA now reads 8/29/14.

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    Like I said earlier. October

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    Checking J&B today it says there is stock in CA!
    Pricing is not displayed to the public.
    Somebody order a couple of them and report back pricing and weights.

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    I just picked up two 60 TPI wire bead versions today that I ordered through my LBS.
    On the shop scale one weighed 1390 and the other weighed 1400. I measured the width edge to edge flat to be 8.5 inches for the 4.0 width tire.
    I paid $160 with $15 shipping included so $72.50 per tire. I thought these were $60 msrp so maybe I got upcharged-please let me know what prices other people are paying for these. Thanks. Hope this helps

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    ctmtb3 where are you located? I just checked with my lbs here in the midwest and was told they are not available yet.....

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    I live in Connecticut but had the shop order them from a warehouse in California. I don't know the warehouse name but a few posts back mentions J & B-perhaps that is it. Just the 60 TPI versions are available in Cali, eventually more stock will reach the other warehouses coast to coast, and eventually the 120 TPI versions will hit as well. I just didn't want to wait and take the chance that the entire inventory gets bought out so I ordered them ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    I live in Connecticut but had the shop order them from a warehouse in California. I don't know the warehouse name but a few posts back mentions J & B-perhaps that is it. Just the 60 TPI versions are available in Cali, eventually more stock will reach the other warehouses coast to coast, and eventually the 120 TPI versions will hit as well. I just didn't want to wait and take the chance that the entire inventory gets bought out so I ordered them ASAP.
    Thank you! I will continue to wait for the 120 tpi version! Let us know your ride impressions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldskipper View Post
    Any updates on these tires in the dirt? How are do they compare to the HuDu's?
    They wear MUCH better than HuDu's, better than any fat tire I have seen so far actually. I think climbing grip is a little better than the HuDu but the HuDu has better cornering grip. Rolling resistance between the two is pretty similar.

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    First ride today with both mounted in the normal orientation on the front and back. With about 18-20 PSI in both tires I noticed no self-steer in the front. Compared to the Vee Missions that came on my bike I noticed no increase in rolling resistance. Traction while cornering, braking and riding along I would say is increased about 30% over the missions.
    I also could hear the rear tire making "scratching" noises while going over ledge and rock which the missions never did.
    I must say that for summer, dry conditions the missions worked okay for me, they would slide a little in cornering but were predictable. The Panaracers simply add more traction and security to the equation. I ride within the limits of my rigid bike so these impressions are not based on riding super aggressively-I am more of a cruiser on my bike but here in CT we have plenty of roots, rocks and ledge for technical riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    First ride today with both mounted in the normal orientation on the front and back. With about 18-20 PSI in both tires
    Now...

    Air them down to a more effective off-road pressure and report back on what you find. Hint; you should be under half of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    I paid $160 with $15 shipping included so $72.50 per tire. I thought these were $60 msrp so maybe I got upcharged-please let me know what prices other people are paying for these. Thanks. Hope this helps

    also curious what people are paying. can i buy them online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    I just picked up two 60 TPI wire bead versions today that I ordered through my LBS.
    On the shop scale one weighed 1390 and the other weighed 1400. I measured the width edge to edge flat to be 8.5 inches for the 4.0 width tire.
    I paid $160 with $15 shipping included so $72.50 per tire. I thought these were $60 msrp so maybe I got upcharged-please let me know what prices other people are paying for these. Thanks. Hope this helps
    the $60 was MAP, not MSRP- $72.50 is pretty standard markup over cost, you're not getting gouged.

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    Anyone try tubeless yet with the 120 TPIs?

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    nice short utube video about it after 27.5
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