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    Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

    I've been riding pre production samples for about a week and its a fast tire, better grip then a knard, light mine came in at 1270.... really digPanaracer Fat B Nimble!-1938099_10152816832454968_2037764312_n.jpgPanaracer Fat B Nimble!-10173473_10152816565144968_1503804008_n.jpg

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    Here are the specs from panaracer and should be ready to buy in June!

    1180 grams in a kevlar bead, 120 tpi casing. No weight yet on the 60 tpi wire bead. MSRP for Kevlar bead is 90.00, and 60.00 for the wire bead.
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    oh threw tires on both a marge lite and a carbondale
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    Now we're talking. Reminds me a little of a HuDu.

    So that's 84mm on the ML?
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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    Now we're talking. Reminds me a little of a HuDu.

    So that's 84mm on the ML?
    Yup
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    Nice, more tire options!

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    Now $90 is a somewhat reasonable price for a 120 tpi fat tire. Glad more cheaper options are starting to enter the market

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    Big fan of panaracer (pun intended).
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    Sweet!
    Can you measure the bead to bead width with the tire unmounted and laid flat?

    I've got more Snowshoe XL protos coming in now for some testing during Easter. One studded version and one unstudded. New compound that should reduce the tendency to have snow sticking to them. (that stickiness is plain awesome on all other surfaces, though, so a tradeoff)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    Sweet!
    Can you measure the bead to bead width with the tire unmounted and laid flat?

    I've got more Snowshoe XL protos coming in now for some testing during Easter. One studded version and one unstudded. New compound that should reduce the tendency to have snow sticking to them. (that stickiness is plain awesome on all other surfaces, though, so a tradeoff)
    here you go....Panaracer Fat B Nimble!-1622772_10152837784834968_4938205570004682869_n.jpgPanaracer Fat B Nimble!-10177969_10152837786069968_4353968119087357128_n.jpg
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    Thanks!

    Looks like right around 217mm.
    I have measured a pair of nates to 220mm, so pretty much spot on the same volume, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    Thanks!

    Looks like right around 217mm.
    I have measured a pair of nates to 220mm, so pretty much spot on the same volume, then.
    tread isn't as deep as a nate but much deeper then a knard and maybe similar to a husker du
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    Yep, looks like a great allrounder with fairly low rolling resistance when run with the ramps facing forward, and good climbing traction with the rear run in the reverse direction.
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    I like the price points predicted. Options are good. Very, very good.

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    When will I be able to get my grubby mitts on a pair of these for my bike?
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    Hmmm...

    Being reminded this last ride (muddy instead of snow) of how poor the side bite seems to be on the Floaters, these "LOOK" like they have the potential to replace that tire as the best all around choice. Very nice pricing too!
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    june they should be in stock....
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    Have you noticed any tendency for 'self steer' at high or low air pressures?
    I'd love to try these tires out up here in the Ogden area when they are available if there isn't any issues with self steer.
    I am currently running Vee Rubber Vee8's and at lower pressure they can be a handfull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boardguru View Post
    Have you noticed any tendency for 'self steer' at high or low air pressures?
    I'd love to try these tires out up here in the Ogden area when they are available if there isn't any issues with self steer.
    I am currently running Vee Rubber Vee8's and at lower pressure they can be a handfull.
    You most likely will encounter that issue with most fat tires at low pressure, nature of the beast so to speak...

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    Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

    Quote Originally Posted by AKCheesehead View Post
    You most likely will encounter that issue with most fat tires at low pressure, nature of the beast so to speak...
    The degree of self steer varies hugely for tire (tread) to tire. I have used some with almost none at any pressure, and others that were borderline dangerous at most pressures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    The degree of self steer varies hugely for tire (tread) to tire. I have used some with almost none at any pressure, and others that were borderline dangerous at most pressures.
    Interesting... I've ridden summer and winter on various tires but never felt a significant amount of self steer that it anything that I would consider dangerous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boardguru View Post
    Have you noticed any tendency for 'self steer' at high or low air pressures?
    I'd love to try these tires out up here in the Ogden area when they are available if there isn't any issues with self steer.
    I am currently running Vee Rubber Vee8's and at lower pressure they can be a handfull.
    some at 6psi or lower. i'm 195 right now for your reference 8psi sees to be sweet spot for me so far with these tires, headed to leadville sat for some real snow racing so i'll see how they do there
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    June is almost here! If anyone has 60tpi specs, please post them!

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    my v8's are getting tired. must have me some fbn!

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    Re: Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

    I only wish companies would start making designing their fat tires with a bit more shoulder tread wrap like the Nate, for off camber slick rock faces and the like.

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    Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    I only wish companies would start making designing their fat tires with a bit more shoulder tread wrap like the Nate, for off camber slick rock faces and the like.
    You mean like the Floater?

    The FbN looks fairly good in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJay View Post

    holy cow, cost on these badboys is incredible! I'll definitely see about ordering up a set instead of the H-billies.

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    Any updates on these tires in the dirt? How are do they compare to the HuDu's?

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    i'm under the impression that they are a bit more knobby/loose conditions friendly than the hudu. similar weight, half the price=win.

    waiting.........120 version please........

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    Think these will be the next tyre for me too once they come out in 120 tpi, my knards are nearly done!

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    Looks really similar. Really, really similar.
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    Taiter, that's crazy, I thought that Panaracer made the 'good' tires in Japan, I wonder when that one 'fell off the truck'... I don't think I'm going to be the lab rat on that one, especially on the front end.

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    They look awesome! Think that there's any hope they'll be releasing a 24" version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJay View Post
    Checking J&B today the ETA is now 8/30/14......

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    heh, typical. glad i ordered some 120 tpi 3.8 knards yesterday from qbp. they'll be good n worn out by the time the fbn arrive in october:P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bme107 View Post
    Checking J&B today the ETA is now 8/30/14......
    Updating this another month later: ETA now reads 8/29/14.

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    Like I said earlier. October

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    Checking J&B today it says there is stock in CA!
    Pricing is not displayed to the public.
    Somebody order a couple of them and report back pricing and weights.

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    I just picked up two 60 TPI wire bead versions today that I ordered through my LBS.
    On the shop scale one weighed 1390 and the other weighed 1400. I measured the width edge to edge flat to be 8.5 inches for the 4.0 width tire.
    I paid $160 with $15 shipping included so $72.50 per tire. I thought these were $60 msrp so maybe I got upcharged-please let me know what prices other people are paying for these. Thanks. Hope this helps

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    ctmtb3 where are you located? I just checked with my lbs here in the midwest and was told they are not available yet.....

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    I live in Connecticut but had the shop order them from a warehouse in California. I don't know the warehouse name but a few posts back mentions J & B-perhaps that is it. Just the 60 TPI versions are available in Cali, eventually more stock will reach the other warehouses coast to coast, and eventually the 120 TPI versions will hit as well. I just didn't want to wait and take the chance that the entire inventory gets bought out so I ordered them ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    I live in Connecticut but had the shop order them from a warehouse in California. I don't know the warehouse name but a few posts back mentions J & B-perhaps that is it. Just the 60 TPI versions are available in Cali, eventually more stock will reach the other warehouses coast to coast, and eventually the 120 TPI versions will hit as well. I just didn't want to wait and take the chance that the entire inventory gets bought out so I ordered them ASAP.
    Thank you! I will continue to wait for the 120 tpi version! Let us know your ride impressions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldskipper View Post
    Any updates on these tires in the dirt? How are do they compare to the HuDu's?
    They wear MUCH better than HuDu's, better than any fat tire I have seen so far actually. I think climbing grip is a little better than the HuDu but the HuDu has better cornering grip. Rolling resistance between the two is pretty similar.

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    First ride today with both mounted in the normal orientation on the front and back. With about 18-20 PSI in both tires I noticed no self-steer in the front. Compared to the Vee Missions that came on my bike I noticed no increase in rolling resistance. Traction while cornering, braking and riding along I would say is increased about 30% over the missions.
    I also could hear the rear tire making "scratching" noises while going over ledge and rock which the missions never did.
    I must say that for summer, dry conditions the missions worked okay for me, they would slide a little in cornering but were predictable. The Panaracers simply add more traction and security to the equation. I ride within the limits of my rigid bike so these impressions are not based on riding super aggressively-I am more of a cruiser on my bike but here in CT we have plenty of roots, rocks and ledge for technical riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    First ride today with both mounted in the normal orientation on the front and back. With about 18-20 PSI in both tires
    Now...

    Air them down to a more effective off-road pressure and report back on what you find. Hint; you should be under half of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    I paid $160 with $15 shipping included so $72.50 per tire. I thought these were $60 msrp so maybe I got upcharged-please let me know what prices other people are paying for these. Thanks. Hope this helps

    also curious what people are paying. can i buy them online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctmtb3 View Post
    I just picked up two 60 TPI wire bead versions today that I ordered through my LBS.
    On the shop scale one weighed 1390 and the other weighed 1400. I measured the width edge to edge flat to be 8.5 inches for the 4.0 width tire.
    I paid $160 with $15 shipping included so $72.50 per tire. I thought these were $60 msrp so maybe I got upcharged-please let me know what prices other people are paying for these. Thanks. Hope this helps
    the $60 was MAP, not MSRP- $72.50 is pretty standard markup over cost, you're not getting gouged.

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    Anyone try tubeless yet with the 120 TPIs?

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    nice short utube video about it after 27.5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko6kqO-nrn4

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    Quote Originally Posted by forrestmiller View Post
    Anyone try tubeless yet with the 120 TPIs?
    can you even get the 120's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeduda View Post
    can you even get the 120's?
    http://www.jbi.bike/web/AdvancedCatV...fkawe45d9drh=4

    According to J&B, the CA warehouse has them in stock finally.

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    A friend I ride with bought a bunch a week or two ago and seems to love them, I believe they've only ever seen snow.
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    looks to be wholesale for dealers, any online retailers selling them or are they strictly order thru the lbs? Thanks

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    Yes, J&B is a distributor. Most shops can order from them. they happen to be a distributor that allows anyone to check stock on their website.

    it's not rocket science to search yourself.

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    My Fat B Nimbler review

    I got a single Fat B Nimble for $46.35 from BC Bike via Amazon. The order was placed Nov 29, tire shipped Dec 2, and a I received it in Massachusetts on Dec 10.

    I can't tell the TPI. It's not indicated on the sidewall. BikeBling says 60 TPI. The rubber is stiff and the tire is not easily deformed. 60 TPI - or just new? I can't tell.

    The tire weighs 1369 grams. I put it on my front wheel and ran it at 8 psi with the tread facing the indicated direction by the sidewall arrow.

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    At 8 psi, the tire does not deform easily. I'm using a Q-Tubes SL 2.4-2.7 tube. The rubber is stiff. The knobs feel more plastic than rubber and do not deform easily. This may be a good thing. My Schwalbe RoRo's knobs are as soft as pencil erasers and last about as long.

    The tire wall says, "Chao Yang."

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    The knob pattern is meaty and about what I expected. The side knobs are as large as the center knobs and extend fairly far out.

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    I rode the tire on some New England technical singletrack Strava route here. Temps were in the mid 30s under partly cloudy skies. Trail was very wet and covered with leaves from the recent Nor'Easter.

    Tire seems to grip better than the Vee 8 it replaced. It is lighter by over 200 grams. I didn't notice any skidding. Self steer isn't apparent on singletrack. I did ride on pavement to my car before and after. The self-steer was greatly reduced relative to the Vee 8.

    I did notice that the tire doesn't deform over rocks and roots. This may be due to its "new-ness" and the 60 TPI - or it may not. I'll be curious to see if it softens up with more miles.

    It didn't seem to pick up as much muck as the Vee 8. The splatter on my downtube was reduced relative to the Vee 8. Grip through river crossings, climbing, and mud was as good as I could tell (front grip is harder to assess than rear grip as the tire just spins out in the rear). The tire did not meander, did not skip on wet roots, and did not skid on canted rock faces.

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    Overall summary: solid tire at a great weight point - and especially great price point.

    Pro's: meaty tread pattern, lighter tire, improved muck shedding
    Con's: Stiff rubber that may soften over time

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    Amazon has the 120TPI version in stock now:

    $76.50 - Amazon.com: PANARACER TIRES PAN FAT B NIMBLE 26x4.0 FOLD BK: Sports & Outdoors

    I have one of the 60TPI versions, going to wait and ride it before I buy a pair of the 120 TPI (the 60 TPI I have is a spare to keep in the truck).

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    A little bit cheaper here:

    Panaracer Fat B Nimble 26x4 Folding Bead 120tpi Tire, Black from BikeBling.com

    I'm holding off to see some ride reports. A reasonable price for sure.

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    Be careful with Bikebling, they currently list the 60 and 120tpi Fat B Nimbles with the same price and part number.

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    1180 is a nice weight.

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    I like the price, $76 for a 120tpi wow!

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    I went with the 60tpi version and some q tubes superlights and I'm very happy with them. Shaved 3lbs off compared to the Vee missions and stock tubes.

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    Re: Panaracer Fat B Nimble!

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    Be careful with Bikebling, they currently list the 60 and 120tpi Fat B Nimbles with the same price and part number.
    Additionally, if you actually try to buy the fat b nimble 120tpi, it says the product is discontinued.

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    Anyone know when the 4.8 version will be available?
    I'm not sure if the 4.0 tire will work well on my Clown Shoe rims.

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    I ordered from Amazon last week, 1. They never said what the TPI was on the more expensive one but they did say folding and the other one (the cheaper one, 57 bucks I think it was)they said was wire bead.

    I got my tire today, I'll be running it up front, I have a Knard on the rear & I had a V-Mission
    that I use 120tpi as I didn't want to wear my Nate down the Mission is the biggest pile junk
    tire I have ever used. I don't have a ride report yet all I did was do a quick lap in
    the field, I have used my wife's 120tpi Knard on the front of my bike before and I can already
    say this new Panaracer is going to be a keeper I think it was 79 bucks shipped. I will
    get some time in on this tire tomorrow.

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    These tires sell for $90(+shipping) a pair on e-bay FYI (chao yang tire) I was tempted a few months back but lack of reviews put me off then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krzysiekmz View Post
    These tires sell for $90(+shipping) a pair on e-bay FYI (chao yang tire) I was tempted a few months back but lack of reviews put me off then.
    The reviews are in, I like the FBN better than the Knard on the front.

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    Couple more rides with FBN - and a comparison...

    I put one on the Front to replace a Vee 8. See my post #57 above.

    I've since received an On-One Floater for the rear from Planet-X for $54. Having the On-One Floater changes my perspective on the Fat B Nimble. There's quite a difference between the two. The Floater clearly has "grippier," tacky rubber and its knobs are easily twice the size of the Panaracer. As well, the Floater's tread pattern extends well beyond that of the Panaracer out to the sidewall. The On-One's knobs have a tiered pattern than feels more aggressive than the panaracer. All that beef comes at a weight penalty though. The On-One is about 100 grams heavier.

    I've ridden a couple times now with the Panaracer mounted up front. That's where it will stay and it does a fine job. It doesn't lose traction - especially over wet roots and canted rock faces. I think I can feel the weight difference too at about 1/2 pound. But it really doesn't compare traction/rubber/knob-size/tread-pattern to the Floater.

    Without comparison, I would have given the Panaracer 5-stars relative to the Vee 8 it replaced. Now with a Floater to compare to, I give it 3-stars with a strong recommendation to only use it on the front.

    (My riding with these tires has been on wet, leafy-covered, technical New England singletrack with temps in the low 30's. Lots of roots and rocks. No snow yet. Tire pressure has consistently been 7.5-9 psi. YMMV.)

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    ^^Hmmm, I wanted floaters but couldn't find them anywhere in the US when I ordered the FBNs. I may just have to try one on the rear however, as I had some issues with exactly the terrain you're describing with the FBN on the back. I'm still happy with them for the majority of my riding, but for winter I need something more aggressive out back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connolm View Post
    I put one on the Front to replace a Vee 8. See my post #57 above.

    I've since received an On-One Floater for the rear from Planet-X for $54. Having the On-One Floater changes my perspective on the Fat B Nimble. There's quite a difference between the two. The Floater clearly has "grippier," tacky rubber and its knobs are easily twice the size of the Panaracer. As well, the Floater's tread pattern extends well beyond that of the Panaracer out to the sidewall. The On-One's knobs have a tiered pattern than feels more aggressive than the panaracer. All that beef comes at a weight penalty though. The On-One is about 100 grams heavier.

    I've ridden a couple times now with the Panaracer mounted up front. That's where it will stay and it does a fine job. It doesn't lose traction - especially over wet roots and canted rock faces. I think I can feel the weight difference too at about 1/2 pound. But it really doesn't compare traction/rubber/knob-size/tread-pattern to the Floater.

    Without comparison, I would have given the Panaracer 5-stars relative to the Vee 8 it replaced. Now with a Floater to compare to, I give it 3-stars with a strong recommendation to only use it on the front.

    (My riding with these tires has been on wet, leafy-covered, technical New England singletrack with temps in the low 30's. Lots of roots and rocks. No snow yet. Tire pressure has consistently been 7.5-9 psi. YMMV.)
    Does anyone have reviews of this tire in the snow? Hard pack snow grip is what I am wondering about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connolm View Post
    I put one on the Front to replace a Vee 8. See my post #57 above.

    I've since received an On-One Floater for the rear from Planet-X for $54. Having the On-One Floater changes my perspective on the Fat B Nimble. There's quite a difference between the two. The Floater clearly has "grippier," tacky rubber and its knobs are easily twice the size of the Panaracer. As well, the Floater's tread pattern extends well beyond that of the Panaracer out to the sidewall. The On-One's knobs have a tiered pattern than feels more aggressive than the panaracer. All that beef comes at a weight penalty though. The On-One is about 100 grams heavier.

    I've ridden a couple times now with the Panaracer mounted up front. That's where it will stay and it does a fine job. It doesn't lose traction - especially over wet roots and canted rock faces. I think I can feel the weight difference too at about 1/2 pound. But it really doesn't compare traction/rubber/knob-size/tread-pattern to the Floater.

    Without comparison, I would have given the Panaracer 5-stars relative to the Vee 8 it replaced. Now with a Floater to compare to, I give it 3-stars with a strong recommendation to only use it on the front.

    (My riding with these tires has been on wet, leafy-covered, technical New England singletrack with temps in the low 30's. Lots of roots and rocks. No snow yet. Tire pressure has consistently been 7.5-9 psi. YMMV.)
    Good review, but you should realize that not everyone is after ultimate traction. If they were, then only one type of tire would exist for all bikes.

    Also, it is typical that one runs the tire with the biggest knobs in front on a bike because ultimately that determines the limit of cornering traction. The front tire contributes far less to rolling resistance because it only carries a fraction of the weight of rider/bike combo. Obviously snow bikes are a slightly different beast in that they are sometimes limited by forward drive traction. Personally, I also run a floater in the rear for its paddle-like traction in loose snow. The floater is hardly the pinnacle of beefy traction. I run a Hodag up front and find that it has a much higher threshold for sideways washout than the floater. Certainly a bud or lou would put either of them to shame.

    My point is this: just because the floater has more traction does not mean it is a better tire. There are other important characteristics that people, including myself, are interested in, such as: rolling resistance, tire casing suppleness, ability to go tubeless, tendency towards self-steer, etc.

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    Thanks for the counter point. Seems like tires are like saddles - everyone prefers something different.

    Haven't had it out in snow yet.

    I put the Floater on the rear because under my riding conditions, the rear spins out over uphill roots and rocks before the front ever looses traction in turns. I say this based on empirical observation.
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    My friend had a new pair on his bike a few days ago and he was slipping and sliding on all the turns and losing traction pedaling up short hills. Conditions were hard packed snow and he had 70 mm rims. To me they looked like the tread was just a little too narrow so there was nothing to corner on. Probably a good tire for narrower rims.

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    any more reviews?
    The bike is never to heavy, you are just to WEAK!

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    Waiting (some what patiently) for these to come out for a 3.0" B+ size...
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    I just got a pair of FBN in 120 tpi for $67.50 each. I tossed them on the scale and they were 1150 and 1170 grams. I'm still finishing the wheelset I'm going to put them on and then I'll post my thoughts on them.Panaracer Fat B Nimble!-nimble.jpg
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    I've got about 10 hours of ride time on these now and I'm fairly underwhelmed with the traction on hardpack snow. The knobs are just a little too narrow for the casing ~3.5'' to a 3.8'' casing. That being said, they aren't terrible for the price and weight (1170 grams) and they roll fast.

    I needed an air compressor to mount tubeless, but I'm not sure if that's because of the rims or tires (first fat tubeless setup). Once seated they held air for ~24 hours without sealant and after adding sealant I haven't seen any leakage.

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    Extended side knobs are key. My knards aren't very aggressive on top, but the way the side knobs extend has made them a really decent snow tire. Better than the snowshoes i tried. Snowshoes side knobs don't extend beyond the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juxtaposition View Post
    I've got about 10 hours of ride time on these now and I'm fairly underwhelmed with the traction on hardpack snow. The knobs are just a little too narrow for the casing ~3.5'' to a 3.8'' casing. That being said, they aren't terrible for the price and weight (1170 grams) and they roll fast.

    I needed an air compressor to mount tubeless, but I'm not sure if that's because of the rims or tires (first fat tubeless setup). Once seated they held air for ~24 hours without sealant and after adding sealant I haven't seen any leakage.
    What rims do you have them on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    What rims do you have them on?
    80mm Chinese carbon rims, the kind with a bead hook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juxtaposition View Post
    80mm Chinese carbon rims, the kind with a bead hook.
    How did they mount up? Running tubeless?
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    I just received a pair of the 120 TPI folding tires. They weighed 1160gr and 1180gr. When I replace the existing tires along with some lighter tubes, I should lose close to 1500gr of rotating weight!
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    Where you guys get them from?

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    I got mine at Amazon, I would never run FBN on snow that would suck. I am using it as a front tire down here in Florida dry hard pack sandy conditions and I like this tire lots.

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    Thanks. That sounds good.

    Could anyone measure how wide the tire is mounted on a 65mm or 80mm rim?

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    I got the FB Nimbles mounted up tubeless yesterday on a pair of darryls. They seating up fairly easy with a nice pop, I added 5 oz of stans and they have held air perfectly. I got out on a ride with a mix of snow covered bike path (paved) and snow covered singletrack. I settled on 7-8 psi in the rear and 5-6 psi front. First, let me preface my comments, what I took off my bike was a bud/nate combo on clown shoes, so I had a ton of traction/flotation. The first thing I noticed was how the FBN roll.... Wow. They roll so well that the bike felt so fast and just completely different. Once on the singletrack I was pleasantly suprised with the traction in the snow. They didn't have the grip that the bud and nate have, but they weren't bad by any means. I think I was still probably a little quicker on these tires through the 4-mile loop than I was on my old tires. Overall, I am extremely pleased.

    Oh, changing wheels/tires dropped 2lb 11oz off the bike.
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    How do these compare to husker du? Anyone?
    I'll be needing a new set of summer tires. These look gripper then the kenda juggernaut.

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    I haven't run the husker, and really don't know why any person would own both, as they're too overlapping in intent. I like the larger version as a fast roller dirt tire, particularly at higher pressures. It does exhibit some amount of self steer as you drop. Ideal for a bluto bike, where you don't need to drop pressure for compliance. Given, the price, I'd try it as a low cost alternative. If you don't like it, you can surely resell them for a negligible loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    and really don't know why any person would own both, as they're too overlapping in intent. .
    I studded my Hudu's so i need a new set of tires for summer.....

    I like the cost & the weight, just don't want to loose any grip. I've never run anything cray aggressive like Nate or B/L, so not expecting that. Just don't want less grip than the Hudu.

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    mounted a set of 120 tpi on 80mm rims and I didn't like the fact that knobs were all on the top...nothing on the sides...switched to 65mm and the tire had a very cool rounded profile with the edge knobs extending over the side. I have about two hours on them and they work well for me. very fast rolling...they grip in the snow and you can feel how light they are when you are going up hills...I also like the fact that snow does not pack in the tire treads.

    They look small and wimpy compared to a set of Nates though.

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    boom! 65's ftw!!!

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    changing rims for a tire?.....been pretty snowless in the NE....thinking about these but I also like Knards.
    The bike is never to heavy, you are just to WEAK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSTCLIME View Post
    changing rims for a tire?.....been pretty snowless in the NE....thinking about these but I also like Knards.
    no snow...bummer

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatClank View Post
    mounted a set of 120 tpi on 80mm rims and I didn't like the fact that knobs were all on the top...nothing on the sides...switched to 65mm and the tire had a very cool rounded profile with the edge knobs extending over the side. I have about two hours on them and they work well for me. very fast rolling...they grip in the snow and you can feel how light they are when you are going up hills...I also like the fact that snow does not pack in the tire treads.

    They look small and wimpy compared to a set of Nates though.
    How much and what type of snow? Kind of interested in giving these a shot!
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    The trails were at 2-3 inches of hard pack and the fields I ride through were at 4-5 inches of loose stuff. My tires were at 9 psi.

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    I received two 120tpi FBN over the weekend. I only weighed one of them and it was 1165 grams. As other users mentioned previously, I had to use my air compressor to inflate it tubeless on my Sunringle Mulefut rim. It's noticeably narrower than the On One Floater it replaced and approximately 300 grams lighter but based on other users comments about snow traction, I'll have to ride it and decide if it's worth trading weight for traction.

    One concern I have right away is the apparently deformed tire casing. The bead is fully seated all the way around but the tire wobbles badly when I spin the wheel. Has anybody else noticed this with the FBN? I wonder if the casing will "break in" so to speak after I get a few rides in?
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    I have to say these look good and I happen to have 65mm Marge Lites on my Fatty which reading the above seems to give the best knob profile.

    The longer Jumbo Jim's take, the closer to the canvas of the Knards I get and the more tempted for a set of these I become!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatClank View Post
    mounted a set of 120 tpi on 80mm rims and I didn't like the fact that knobs were all on the top...nothing on the sides...switched to 65mm and the tire had a very cool rounded profile with the edge knobs extending over the side. I have about two hours on them and they work well for me. very fast rolling...they grip in the snow and you can feel how light they are when you are going up hills...I also like the fact that snow does not pack in the tire treads.

    They look small and wimpy compared to a set of Nates though.
    Can you post a pic of them on 65mm rims? I was thinking that would be a good setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slower_than_u View Post
    One concern I have right away is the apparently deformed tire casing. The bead is fully seated all the way around but the tire wobbles badly when I spin the wheel. Has anybody else noticed this with the FBN? I wonder if the casing will "break in" so to speak after I get a few rides in?
    Both of mine were perfectly true, unfortunately I smacked something really hard (was passing someone in a race) and now the tire has a bit of a wobble to it. To be fair, my rim was bent also, but after having the rim trued back up the tire still wobbles a little.
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