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    optimal traction/suspension vs bunny hop normality

    I'm really enjoying my fat front setup of enabler with bud on darryl. I really enjoy it for my snow free cx rides.

    I've experimented with a lot of different tire pressures from too hard to too soft and just about everything in between.

    If I have just enough pressure to prevent all but the most serious bottoming out, the traction and suspension qualities are fantastic. Small bumps literally are not noticeable.

    BUT...preloading for bunny hops is outrageously awkward! On one of my first rides, I was riding at a good pace and tried to bunnyhop a log that is a bit challenging for me to get over without my tires hitting the ground at about the same time (which i prefer over front tire hitting the ground first), which is to say that it's a pretty substantial bunnyhop for me. The preload caused the bike to pull away from me to the left (as I was leaning ever so slightly to the right) and it felt like I was starting to barrel roll up until the point where I crashed (injury free).

    So, now I run more pressure because the trails I ride have a ton of things to hop over and I always have a couple of miles of road riding to connect things together: when I'm riding on the road, I try to get air on anything and everything that won't get me hurt or arrested.

    I'm curious about others that have made this trade-off. I also wonder how much this issue varies with tire width, tire x rim pairings, etc.

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    I thought the same thing when moving from fat and a rigid fork to a fat and a suspension fork.

    The setup is just different and needs to be practiced, I guess.

    I briefly switched back to riding a less cushy setup when borrowing someone else's bike.

    Also, I believe you have a certain compulsion. I know a few guys like you, and they are hilarious to ride behind.
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    I've noticed things need to happen faster and with more power...like pre load, pull up, and tuck the the rear end up in a quicker motion, with out that benefit of that extra kick from front suspension.

    not sure if its the lack of front end squish, or an almost 40 pound bike that makes bunnyhopping so much harder on these fatties.
    Still fun, but I do just roll over more things...lol..

    That said, I want a front Suspension fork!!!

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    I feel like the fat tire gives more hop at lower pressures than a damped suspension fork.
    At higher pressures I'm not compressing it enough for it to work well as an airspring.

    at low pressure: more pop for bunnyhop, but when turning, wheel pulls hard away as tire deforms. no problem at 5mph, but quite crazy at 10+mph.
    my fix: try not to pre-load tire, but it's hard to get much height without plenty of warning; with plenty of warning I can manual into the hop and don't need the preload, but still can't get max height.

    at high pressure: bunny hops like a heavy bmx bike (my background); can still drop the seat and jump up onto a shorter picnic table.

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