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    on one fatty bud and lou

    hi after reading many forums i understand that the bud will fit the on one fatty i have BFLs on mine and still have 10-15mm at either side and near bottom bracket has anyone actually tried the lou on the rear as i thought it was the same casing as BFLs apart from the tread been 5mm larger ,,,70mm rims,, any info appreciated thx

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    Some info that might help. A bud on a 65mm marge lite measures 111mm at the widest point.
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    Re: on one fatty bud and lou

    i got this with 10-15mm each side left with bfls cany see why lou wouldnt fit

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    Just remember to allow some for tyre wiggle, if you are non tubeless there a 10-15mm swagger on the tyres. Tubeless with the beads seated and its pretty straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Just remember to allow some for tyre wiggle, if you are non tubeless there a 10-15mm swagger on the tyres. Tubeless with the beads seated and its pretty straight.
    With the tire beads seated properly there should be ZERO difference is the amount of wiggle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    With the tire beads seated properly there should be ZERO difference is the amount of wiggle.
    Thats what i said.
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    on one fatty bud and lou

    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Thats what i said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Just remember to allow some for tyre wiggle, if you are non tubeless there a 10-15mm swagger on the tyres. Tubeless with the beads seated and its pretty straight.
    To clarify my reply: with the tire bead properly seated there will be ZERO difference in the amount of wobble regardless if you are using inner tubes or not.
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    Seating the bead when running tubes on fat wheels isnt an easy task.
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    I haven't tried tubeless yet, but I do get pretty noticeable side to side movement on my fatty floater tires on the Fatty rims with tubes if I run it below 12psi rear or 9 psi front. when aired up to 30-35 it goes away, but If I go below those pressures it will return while riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Seating the bead when running tubes on fat wheels isnt an easy task.
    Narrow (1") tie-down straps worked for me.
    Put about 3psi in the tire/tube, then wrap the circumfrence and cinch it down.
    Over inflating to seat properly, then deflate to desired psi.

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    Tubeless here

    I can remember the massive wiggle I had on various wheel/rim combos for about the first year.... the buds being the most memorable.
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    Re: on one fatty bud and lou

    i take it nobody ever tried lou on rear of on one fatty

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    I can't remember which tyre it was out of Bud or Lou, but whichever is the rear one doesn't fit in my Fatty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I can't remember which tyre it was out of Bud or Lou, but whichever is the rear one doesn't fit in my Fatty.
    Was that with the stock width rim, or a 100mm ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I can't remember which tyre it was out of Bud or Lou, but whichever is the rear one doesn't fit in my Fatty.
    I remember your picture of the BFL in there, and it looked tight. Mine doesn't look like it would clear a Lou on a 70 either, just judging by the clearance on a 94mm stock tire.

    edit; after carefull measurements, there would be about 5mm clearance on each side, and to the cross brace on the chainstays. It would fit, but not much room for runout or flex. I would definitely expect it to rub when riding.

    what was the diameter of the 29+ tires again?
    if I have 15mm with a 740mm tire, will it work?

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    Re: on one fatty bud and lou

    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I can't remember which tyre it was out of Bud or Lou, but whichever is the rear one doesn't fit in my Fatty.
    thx for that, was that on 70mm rims

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    [QUOTE=stesteste;10431893]thx for that, was that on 70mm rims

    Wasn't my wheel. Belongs to a Mukluk, so whatever rim that uses.
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    Re: on one fatty bud and lou

    oooh i see i think muk uses 82mm rim they still might be hope yet how tight was it? was it minimal thanks
    there must be some one out there with a bud or lou to try on rear for the on one fatty dont wanna waste 90 quid to try and dont wanna by the bud without the lou getting ready for winter early lol

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    on one fatty bud and lou

    Bud without Lou is still pretty awesome. I run a Nate in the back for winter, and when I switched from Larry to Bud, it was a different bike. Worth it.

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    Re: on one fatty bud and lou

    Quote Originally Posted by Schott View Post
    Bud without Lou is still pretty awesome. I run a Nate in the back for winter, and when I switched from Larry to Bud, it was a different bike. Worth it.
    thx ,any chance of posting a few pic please ,anyone with different tyre arrangements pics would be greatfull ,heres mine BFLs

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    on one fatty bud and lou

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    ok might be sold on the Nate and bud combo for winter/muddy/wet wheelset ,I wonder if any other tyre company's are going to do something in-between 3.8 and .4.8 like a 4.5 bud and Lou to fit older frames I love my BFLs for summer would love to stay the same size with just a little more grip

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    It was me wot tried my wheel in epicyclo's fatty. A bud tubeless on a RD rim. It didn't fit. ( well it did but with no clearance)
    Shame, it would be great with a pair of buds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stesteste View Post
    I wonder if any other tyre company's are going to do something in-between 3.8 and 4.8 like a 4.5 bud and Lou to fit older frames
    I doubt Surly will... everyone would just start complaining about the cost for them to produce another special tire!

    Aren't the 45nrth's actually 4.0 tires? That is slightly in-between 3.8/4.8

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