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 Originally Posted by brant
Symmetrical, 170mm (it says on the drawing), 445mm chainstays.
But it's just these two first samples. Anything could change. And might/probably will.
As long as there isn't any huge changes, I just found my next project! This is exactly what I was looking for and has just saved me a lot of time debating some things, thanks guys!!
I'd be in favor of a slacker HT angle too.
"I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew
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 Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood !
Mmmmmm...... Shiney
Just needs a truss fork ..... 
Exactly.
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Just looked closer at the pictures. That is going to be one cool bike!
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3 Q`s......
1) What is the rear tyre clearance ??
2) How about calling the UK version the "Dune Surfer" in honor of CK or the "Bog Monster" , in honor of Velobike's exploits in trying to ride through proto Lochs 
3) If you do a `mad` one sided fork , please ensure that it IS really mad with ( dare we say) adjustable clamps to allow better tyre clearance and adjustable A to C
Green,not mean
and Floating in a Floatilla :)
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It's like an Evil Imperial on steroids
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WOW! Sure love the look of this one! Kind of has a trials bike look to it aye? Not sure about 71 degrees at the head tube... might be a little steep for snow & sand... nice to be a little slacker on a downhill when the Ft. tire sinks into soft snow or sand... of corse we don't know the effective TT length yet either. LOVE the double TT w/ super low stand over!
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Do it Do it .
I'll buy three.
Come on there's an egg on.
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I'm not so sure about a slack head tube angle. I have 69 degrees on my frame and it feels a bit floppy at slow speed.
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I like it! And as fellow members of the Commonwealth please ship some to Canada! The American manufacturers aren't really interested in selling us their bikes, for whatever reason, at least not without gouging us, and we have 35 million people and a very snowy country just waiting for some snow bikes. God Save the Queen!
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 Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood !
3 Q`s......
1) What is the rear tyre clearance ??
Well, I know Shiggy had me measure my Rolling Darryl/Larry tires and I gave him that measurement to go by several months ago now. Hopefully he "future proofed" it a little bit.
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 Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
Well, I know Shiggy had me measure my Rolling Darryl/Larry tires and I gave him that measurement to go by several months ago now. Hopefully he "future proofed" it a little bit. 
Green,not mean
and Floating in a Floatilla :)
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Any idea at all when (if) this will go into production?
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 Originally Posted by the_eleven
Any idea at all when (if) this will go into production?
Read post # 15 or there abouts..
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 Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood !
3 Q`s......
1) What is the rear tyre clearance ??
2) How about calling the UK version the "Dune Surfer" in honor of CK or the "Bog Monster" , in honor of Velobike's exploits in trying to ride through proto Lochs
3) If you do a `mad` one sided fork , please ensure that it IS really mad with ( dare we say) adjustable clamps to allow better tyre clearance and adjustable A to C 
All these would save a lot of work
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Very nice, slacker HA please.
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I like the appearance of the toptube....but what I like even more than that is the possibility of greater framebag volume due to the wider "toptube".
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Is it me or is that seat-tube curved or bent, a bit like a Surly Karate Monkey?
Now where's my cheque book!! :-)
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 Originally Posted by johnni1968
Is it me or is that seat-tube curved or bent, a bit like a Surly Karate Monkey?
Now where's my cheque book!! :-)
I see that as well. An attempt at shorter chain stays, I presume.
EDIT: I see further up now where Brant said the chain stays are 445mm/17.52". Not all that short after all! But then again, for soft stuff, short stays seem to not be wanted.
I like Shiggy's suggestion that this is a "Rock Crawler", by the way.
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Nice looking frame!!
I think the oversize headtube will allow a lot of room for people to play with the angleset headset. It is nice to have the option of slackening the HT out or gettting that perfect geometry out of a production bike. It might also be good to change the HT angle for different types of terrain or seasons.
-Nolan
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 Originally Posted by nolan17
Nice looking frame!!
I think the oversize headtube will allow a lot of room for people to play with the angleset headset. It is nice to have the option of slackening the HT out or gettting that perfect geometry out of a production bike. It might also be good to change the HT angle for different types of terrain or seasons.
-Nolan
One bike to rule them all, eh?
"Ride what you love, love what you ride"
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 Originally Posted by nolan17
Nice looking frame!!
I think the oversize headtube will allow a lot of room for people to play with the angleset headset. It is nice to have the option of slackening the HT out or gettting that perfect geometry out of a production bike. It might also be good to change the HT angle for different types of terrain or seasons.
-Nolan
Very good point, if they went say 70 degree HT angle then we could all tweak it to where we really want it.
 Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
I see further up now where Brant said the chain stays are 445mm/17.52". Not all that short after all! But then again, for soft stuff, short stays seem to not be wanted.
I like Shiggy's suggestion that this is a "Rock Crawler", by the way. 
This is pleasing for those of us that will be using it as a "Rock Crawler" trail machine instead of a sand/snow bike.
"I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew
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Brant,
I know this is a wee while off, but does that mean that planet x/on one will be taking in stock of fatbike essentials - tyres, rims, bb, forks etc?. Excellent news, nice to see some more fatbike development in the wings...
BTW, just built up my Mk1 bluepig, lovely frame
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that is one nice frame ...... weight dependant that would be worth changing out the sandman for if its SSable without a tensioner pish ....
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