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    Offset 29er wheels ona Moonlander?

    What would be the ideal set of 29er/27.5er/26er wheels, if you wanted to use the Moonlander in the summer for a little faster riding? Please post opinions or if you've done something like this, show us!

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    a shimano xt hub has a disk side flange spacing of about 33.5 mm from center
    once you take off the 28mm offset you are left with about 5.5mm of dish
    I don't want to burst your bubble but I do not know how you could build a strong rear wheel with so little dish
    I do wish surly would roll a 29er marge lite

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    Answered my question, thanks! Hopefully things change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    a shimano xt hub has a disk side flange spacing of about 33.5 mm from center
    once you take off the 28mm offset you are left with about 5.5mm of dish
    I don't want to burst your bubble but I do not know how you could build a strong rear wheel with so little dish
    I do wish surly would roll a 29er marge lite

    Sj
    marge lite 29er would be AWESOME!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseMaow View Post
    marge lite 29er will be AWESOME!
    Fixed that for ya

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    Why not just put some Black Floyds on when you want to go FAST
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    Not that I know anything about wheel building, but do high flange hubs go anyway to assisting in getting a better dish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sverre View Post
    Fixed that for ya
    whaaaaaa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean breathes salty View Post
    Not that I know anything about wheel building, but do high flange hubs go anyway to assisting in getting a better dish?

    Chub SS/DJ Rear | the Hive
    flange height only reduces torque load at the the spoke head
    It has very little to do with dish

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    flange height only reduces torque load at the the spoke head
    It has very little to do with dish

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    Nice SJ, glad to see you're off the bourbon today
    Last edited by bdundee; 02-17-2012 at 07:51 AM.
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    Someone had posted an online spoke length calculator that gave you a graphic showing the spoke angles as well as listing them. I think it also gave the tension difference. Can't find it now.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    freespoke... i use it very often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Nice SJ, glad to see you're off the bourbon today
    I felt a cold coming on that day and was doing my best to make my body an uninhabitable host

    It didn't work
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    At first thought a 29er offset for the Moonlander looks like a recipe for disaster.

    But maybe if you took a wide 29er rim (eg Kris Holm), redrilled it and used a crossover spoking (lhs flange to rhs set of holes) it may work.



    Personally I'd sooner put on Black Floyds, an incredibly versatile tyre. I'll be trying them on a long ride shortly, but my experience so far suggests that there's no real penalty to using them*. It would be much cheaper to do than building a set of 29er wheels.

    My Kris Holm rims weigh 801gms each, thus the 29er wheels would be about the same weight as a lightweight fat wheel build anyway, and the only weight difference would come down to tyre choice.


    *If you're a heads down racer then you may have a different opinion, but my observations are based on ordinary use.
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    Are the BFs wide enough to fit a moonlander rim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by x3speed View Post
    Are the BFs wide enough to fit a moonlander rim?
    Oh yeah. Any fat tire will work ok on a hundie. It'll just yield a more spread out profile (square or more flat across.)

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    Grave dig.

    Has anyone figured out a solution for this yet? Waiting for a custom frame to replace my 29er and would like to de-fat the moonie for trail riding while I wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseMaow View Post
    29x3" slicks would be AWESOMEST!1
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    Fixed that for ya
    ditto

    About Black Floyds on Moonlander (clownshoes): I wonder how they would steer, as I have mixed experience about them on 82 mm rims. >1 bar: smooth and fast; terrible self steering on "normal" fatbike tire pressures. I would think the self steer could be worse with broader rims? Too bad that I sold my pair before I decided to buy a fatbike with 65 mm rims as I hear BF's work better on narrower rims (confirm/deny?).

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    Before you decide that this will not work... ask yourself...

    are road wheels exploding left and right out there? Even at paris-roubaix or flanders or cross racing....

    because the bracing angle of a 10s road wheel on the drive side is around 3.3-4

    my pugsley 29er wheels are doing just fine thank you...

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    anyone done rabbit holes on a moonie - wouldnt they work?

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