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    Keep up the good work Ozzy!!

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    [QUOTE=ozzybmx;11116972]Tape time.... 1 wrap of approx 6-7mm of gorilla tape in the bead recess, then 1 wrap of 8898 on each side and 1 down the middle.

    Got it to about 15psi DRY but there's air escaping inside the rim, the tape in the photos looks neat but i now have forearms like popeye and the tape wont stretch enough to conform to the rims concave shape, so there is some wrinkles down in the middle. Im thinking there is a wrinkle i cant see that the air is getting out through.

    So, tube fitted back up and sitting at 30psi, will let it compress the tape for a day or two till i get some more time.

    Its wasnt an easy job to break the bead now even with some soapy water present.

    Regardless if this works, the hassle of having to tape right up both sides and use combo of gorilla tape and 8898 is not what these wheels were meant to be about. One strip down the middle should have done the job.

    More in a day or two if i find some time to mess around.



    As an aside, where did you buy the tape from?

    I can see a few places in the US that sell it by the box, but can't find anything reasonable in Australia....

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    Any one build up these in 26" version? Looking at these for my next wheelset. Or has anyone ridden the 29er or 27.5 versions? How did they hold up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hookler View Post
    Any one build up these in 26" version? Looking at these for my next wheelset. Or has anyone ridden the 29er or 27.5 versions? How did they hold up?
    They are very VERY new, those who have tested them are among the few to even see them yet. Until the corrections are made to the mold production appears to be on hold. Best check in 29er section if they have a narrow version done yet. Nothing on their Facebook yet about the public getting them. You can follow Nextie on Facebook to get fastest updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hookler View Post
    Any one build up these in 26" version? Looking at these for my next wheelset. Or has anyone ridden the 29er or 27.5 versions? How did they hold up?
    I have mine built up... Tubeless was a horrible fail, but otherwise the rim came as expected... mine were 690g and 680g... ridden a few miles on them... super stiff and damn light compared to my other wheelset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKCheesehead View Post
    I have mine built up... Tubeless was a horrible fail, but otherwise the rim came as expected... mine were 690g and 680g... ridden a few miles on them... super stiff and damn light compared to my other wheelset.
    Are we talking the fat rims now? If so I didn't realize you got a set of Nextie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Are we talking the fat rims now? If so I didn't realize you got a set of Nextie.
    Yes, we're talking fat rims... I ordered a set of Nextie and a set of LB as well...

    there are pics of mine on the previous page or the one before that

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKCheesehead View Post
    Yes, we're talking fat rims... I ordered a set of Nextie and a set of LB as well...

    there are pics of mine on the previous page or the one before that
    Sorry I spaced that one out!!

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    Ohhhh... the price to pay for a paint job. Mine were 700g and 705g.
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    Re: Nextie-Bike carbon rims

    have we got any more pics of rims build up on bike please .....love.pics

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    Ok, successful attempt. Taped as above, added 4 scoops of stans as i was expecting major spillage around the bead, tyre popped on and a quick shake, zero stans lost. A very slight weep where the bead sealed and the rim has held air for 2 hours now.

    The weight of this rim/tyre/stans/tape is 2120g so thats the base weight before spokes and hubs. Not sure if that's good or not as i have never weighed a wheel in this state before.

    So the updated BSD of 559mm should seal up beautifully. BTW these HuDu's bled stan's from the bead like a stuck pig when i tried tubeless before on a set of margelites.

    Promising, but still had to do a taping job to achieve this. At already 700g when there is others carbon rims near 600g the taping job is weight in the wrong direction.

    For the record, i did not wipe this wheel at all after airing up, the stan's fluid pictured is all the leakage i got on them.





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    looks good... so roughly 150-200g for the tape and Stan's... not bad

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    Yep, the HuDu's are 1260g/1270g (not sure what one is fitted) and the rims are approx 700g so 1970g total for components. So the tape and stan's is 150g... and there is a **** load of stans in there as i was expecting waste, i emptied the bead dregs of an old bottle in there before the 4 scoops so i would say easily 100g+. The 8898 tape weighs about 10g per wrap and the tubeless valve 10-15g. The gorilla tape is only 6-7mm wide so its negligible.

    Will still be a bit of a saving when i get the increased BSD rims.
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    Awesome... I'll have to give that 8898 tape a try... I already had mind built up so I opted out of the replacement set and will fiddle with it more or just run tubes. I also have a set of the light-bicycle rims on the way too..

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    I have not tried it with 8898 alone yet, but might give it a go. On this wheel i ran 1 wrap of 6-7mm gorilla inside the bead recess to "fatten" it out after the issue MikeC had, will try it without on the next wheel but keep that in mind.

    I hate the mess gorilla makes.

    I will let Nextie know i have got one of their wheels set up tubeless but i am still going for the replacements.
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    It will be interesting to see how other tires work out. And by other tires, that includes other tires of the exact same kind, husker du.

    There is fairly high manufacturing variability in tires so it is typical for some tires to be too tight or too loose. This matters much more than it used to now that many people are doing clincher tubeless. For example, I had to return an ardent 2.4" tire because it was too loose and leaked sealant. The other 4 ardent 2.4" tires that i've owned have been just fine.

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    My original set of Buds on marglites went tubeless like a dream, replace the rear bud and it leaked like sh1t, ended up using mold latex to seal the bead.
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    I've used a single cup of Stan's in Vee-8's on 80mm rims. Sealed up nicely and there was enough leftover Stan's to audibly slosh around in there after extended riding as well.
    At least with those Vee tires, most of the Stan's was used to seal the bead/rim interface, and that is standard 26'' size.
    Two cups should be plenty enough per tire.

    Got some carbon 80mm rims here now. Factory had installed a standard 80mm rimtape, and the Snowshoes mounted were near impossible to get off. Will run two loops of yellow tape to seal the two rows of spokes holes, and they should be ready to go.
    Of course, 80mm looks ridiculously skinny vs. our standard 103's, but they will be OK for the Vee Speedsters until I get something wider.
    The brilliant minds at the factory had built the test wheels with plain gauge 14ga spokes, though, so need to strip those down and replace with proper 4.3g 14/17ga or 3.5g bladed Pillar spokes.
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    I realize it adds more weight than tape. But, anyone try split tube tubless with these?

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    Those look great, but I think something is missing....just not sure exactly what.........


    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Ok, successful attempt. Taped as above, added 4 scoops of stans as i was expecting major spillage around the bead, tyre popped on and a quick shake, zero stans lost. A very slight weep where the bead sealed and the rim has held air for 2 hours now.

    The weight of this rim/tyre/stans/tape is 2120g so thats the base weight before spokes and hubs. Not sure if that's good or not as i have never weighed a wheel in this state before.

    So the updated BSD of 559mm should seal up beautifully. BTW these HuDu's bled stan's from the bead like a stuck pig when i tried tubeless before on a set of margelites.

    Promising, but still had to do a taping job to achieve this. At already 700g when there is others carbon rims near 600g the taping job is weight in the wrong direction.

    For the record, i did not wipe this wheel at all after airing up, the stan's fluid pictured is all the leakage i got on them.






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    Pretty disappointed in mine...tubeless seal doesn't seem to be holding for **** despite trying all the normal tricks. Oh well, you win some and you lose some. Sarma, you're back in. Nextie, it's back to kindergarden for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Spleen View Post
    Pretty disappointed in mine...tubeless seal doesn't seem to be holding for **** despite trying all the normal tricks. Oh well, you win some and you lose some. Sarma, you're back in. Nextie, it's back to kindergarden for you!
    Did you receive one of the redesigned rims or one from the original shipment?

    My fingers are crossed that these start shipping soon.

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    Respect to the fat bike soldiers willing to fight the affordable carbon rim battle for the rest of us. I was hopeful these rims would work, and they still might but now we're pushing against the variability of fat bike tire manufacturing.

    I'm still hopeful that the solution includes my 45NRTH Husker Du tires on the BG.

    Oh and that Hope does an 150mm update to the Fatsno front hub, so I can get a RS Bluto for next winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    Did you receive one of the redesigned rims or one from the original shipment?

    My fingers are crossed that these start shipping soon.
    Not sure which run they're from, but I think the problem may have been solved. Added more sealant, hit about 60psi, heard the sound of chundering carbon, and now they're holding overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Spleen View Post
    hit about 60psi, heard the sound of chundering carbon, and now they're holding overnight.
    Whoa. 60PSI? I get nervous when I get up to 30. I blew a Floater off a rim this winter (not sure what PSI I was at), but it was LOUD! My wife came running into the garage expecting to see me laying on the ground with bike pieces sticking out of my gut.

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    LOL ^^^

    I have to admit those yellow Nexties look awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Whoa. 60PSI? I get nervous when I get up to 30. I blew a Floater off a rim this winter (not sure what PSI I was at), but it was LOUD! My wife came running into the garage expecting to see me laying on the ground with bike pieces sticking out of my gut.
    lol, yep. I'm the guy in the cheap chinese carbon rims thread that blew up his light-bicycle rims with roughly that pressure. Ears were ringing, stans was dripping from the ceiling, the tire was in the next room and I had carbon fiber shrapnel embedded in my shin.

    I hope your rims are of the new design and that Nextie is shipping to customers.

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    Nextie will not be shipping till they have tested the new ones. They have ordered a load of tyres to try, they will confirm tubeless with those tyres before they send out another rim.

    Should be in the next few days.
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    Couldnt resist, setup tubeless with more taping than i should need and some mold builder latex added to seal up the rear as it wouldn't stop leaking, must be discrepancies in tyre bead circumference.

    The new size should be spot on.

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    That looks cool Ozzy!!

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    Cheers Bob, they turned out better than i thought.
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    really looks like that rim design will keep drop bears from getting tangled in your spokes

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    Jumping on the bandwagon....OMFG...that looks so good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Couldnt resist, setup tubeless with more taping than i should need and some mold builder latex added to seal up the rear as it wouldn't stop leaking, must be discrepancies in tyre bead circumference.

    The new size should be spot on.

    Man that looks awesome

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    That doesn't sound good for setting them up tubeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    That doesn't sound good for setting them up tubeless.
    They are set up tubeless. Nextie have acknowledged the mistake on the rim BSD and are sending me replacements, this will sort out the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    They are set up tubeless. Nextie have acknowledged the mistake on the rim BSD and are sending me replacements, this will sort out the issue.
    I'll be waiting to hear how it goes. Keep us posted.

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    Nextie posted an update to their facebook page. They have successfully mounted several tires tubeless including the pictured bud and lou.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

    I hope this means they resume production and shipping soon!

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    I think they said they will be shipping in 7 days.

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    I see that the picture shows them using an air hose. I wonder if they will be good enough to use a floor pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    I see that the picture shows them using an air hose. I wonder if they will be good enough to use a floor pump?
    Mine were done using a floor pump.
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    Well, updated batch getting painted, stickered and ready to go.

    My new lumo green rims, not stickered yet but will be finished and ship tomorrow and a red one that is going to another buyer. (facebook page pics)
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    I saw those green ones on their web sight and fell in love.

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    They are my updated ones, im keeping the yellows too.

    I am not into all the little colour coded blingy bits on a bike... though don't mind one coloured part to break up the black/white and bare metal.

    A set of the white rims would look awesome with black decals, maybe the purple with purple Fatsnos too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I saw those green ones on their web sight and fell in love.
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    Finished wheels, my lumo greens at 682g and 685g

    Belrose bikes stealth blacks at 673g each.

    Nude finish wheels are 660g.
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    Those look great. They almost make me wish I had opted for paint rather than raw rims. But my rims end up ridiculously scuffed so raw is probably best for my purposes.

    Given the large surface area on these rims, I wouldn't be surprised if they become a popular canvas for some really cool artwork. Custom frame builders are probably scheming already.

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    Please, please,please make a 65mm version

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    I ordered a 32H matte UD pair on March 20th and just received a shipment tracking number today.

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    Nextie-Bike carbon rims

    I love the way they did those black rims!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    I ordered a 32H matte UD pair on March 20th and just received a shipment tracking number today.
    Me too on the tracking number. Need to do some spoke ordering again !!!
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    Got my replacement set this morning.

    Once bitten on the first set, I decided not to lace these until I knew they'd go tubeless. One wrap of tape over the spoke holes, pressed it in with my thumbs, then installed a used Lou. Aired up easily with a floor pump. I can get it to 10psi before air is leaking out past the bead, which *should* mean that a splash of sealant in there will close the gaps.

    Confident enough in them that I'll unlace my Clownshoes next week and lace these back in there.

    665g and 680g for this set.

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    Sounds good Mike ! Does the bead channel look shallower than it was previously ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Got my replacement set this morning.

    Once bitten on the first set, I decided not to lace these until I knew they'd go tubeless. One wrap of tape over the spoke holes, pressed it in with my thumbs, then installed a used Lou. Aired up easily with a floor pump. I can get it to 10psi before air is leaking out past the bead, which *should* mean that a splash of sealant in there will close the gaps.

    Confident enough in them that I'll unlace my Clownshoes next week and lace these back in there.

    665g and 680g for this set.
    ^^ I wish I didn't read this.
    I guess I'll be sending Mikesee my lunch money soon.

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    Only had time to lace the front today.


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    Pulled a new Bud out of a box, unfolded it, slipped it onto the rim, splashed some Stans in there, and pumped it up with a floor pump. No snaps for the bead--it just kind of slips quietly into place. I like that.

    For grins and wiggles I let it sit for ~half an hour then aired it down and tried to break the bead loose. Simply could not do it with fingers only. Laid the rim on it's side and *stood* on the bead. Had to put a lot of pressure onto one foot to get it to pop loose.

    And after all that you can install and remove the tire with fingers/without levers, easily.

    Methinks this is the way tubeless and fat were meant to be.

    This wheel is 1060g with tape and valve. Though honestly I don't give a rip--I chose this rim because of it's deep (snow shedding) section. You can have the lightest wheels on the planet but if the rim doesn't shed snow you're carrying pounds of extra mass.

    Not exactly looking forward to winter per se. But then, on another level, I kinda am...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Sounds good Mike ! Does the bead channel look shallower than it was previously ?
    Yes.

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    Cheers, makes sense. The little "trough" that the tyre bead popped into just needed to be brought up a bee's dick (official Aussie unit of measurement)

    Probaby easier said than done but at least Nextie sorted the issue quick smart and has shown awesome customer service.

    Stiffest wheels I have ever built too, building these new one's with Aerolites as they will be keepers.... hate paying for Aerolites though

    I will definitely be using Nextie for my next carbon wheels which will probably be CX tubs... LB's popularity with the regular AM/29er rims crowd has blown order times out.
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    The snow shedding comment from the master must go a long way to credit these rims for snowies !!!

    The centrifugal force from spin can do nothing but shed whatever has tried to gather on these rims.
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    I see somebody else has went yellow, the new ones from fakebook are gloss clear coated, mine are matt finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post

    Only had time to lace the front today.


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    Pulled a new Bud out of a box, unfolded it, slipped it onto the rim, splashed some Stans in there, and pumped it up with a floor pump. No snaps for the bead--it just kind of slips quietly into place. I like that.

    For grins and wiggles I let it sit for ~half an hour then aired it down and tried to break the bead loose. Simply could not do it with fingers only. Laid the rim on it's side and *stood* on the bead. Had to put a lot of pressure onto one foot to get it to pop loose.

    And after all that you can install and remove the tire with fingers/without levers, easily.

    Methinks this is the way tubeless and fat were meant to be.

    This wheel is 1060g with tape and valve. Though honestly I don't give a rip--I chose this rim because of it's deep (snow shedding) section. You can have the lightest wheels on the planet but if the rim doesn't shed snow you're carrying pounds of extra mass.

    Not exactly looking forward to winter per se. But then, on another level, I kinda am...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logantri View Post
    That bike have a back half?
    Yup. Pretty too.

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    What tape are we all using for the middle strip to cover the spoke holes ?

    I used 48mm 8898 packing tape, 1 overlapped wrap right round with the join being in the middle of 2 spoke holes. Cleaned with Glue & Tar remover solvent before sticking on and then used a heatgun and made sure it was smooth as a baby's bum with no air pockets or wrinkles.
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    That is hands down the most badd ass mountain bike wheel I have ever seen, regardless of its intent. Just looks so MEAN.
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    My matte UD pair arrived today. The box was humorourously light for the size. Each rim was wrapped in a thin foam bag that was fastened shut.

    They look good but aren't perfect. The ends of the carbon sheets are visible. The construction and drilling look quite precise though. Sidewall and bead seem uniform.

    Both rims rattled when moved. There were two small remnant pieces from the molding process stuck inside. It took twenty minutes to get those pieces to come to rest on the valve hole and grab them with the world's smallest needle nose pliers. I'll post some pictures later.

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    Hello,
    I'm thinking on the red ones for my fatboy. But what are the best hubs ? 190mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSOR View Post
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    I'm thinking on the red ones for my fatboy. But what are the best hubs ? 190mm

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    "Best" is subjective, but I just laced up a 190mm rear and 135mm front Industry Nine Torch hub. They are nice hubs and are generally considered a quality product.

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    Best... blingiest... most expensive ? Probably.

    Tune make beautiful looking hubs with 10 out of 10 for bling ! ~100g saving per end over a set of Hopes for a decent price hike.

    Tune 130g/240g - approx $800 a set (bike24)

    Hope 250g/340g - $340 a set

    I would go the Hopes... as I already do, then spend a bit more on tubeless carbon rims and Aero spokes. Unless you are really cashed into 1 set of wheels then go the whole hog !

    No point going superlite hubs and then losing the 200g saving on heavy tyres, rims strips, spokes and tubes right where it matters most.
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    Glad to see they are working out, thanks to all for keeping us updated.

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    Thanks for the reply.... I think what I must do now.... First we order the nextie rims and then I go looking on the WWW for hubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    My matte UD pair arrived today. The box was humorourously light for the size. Each rim was wrapped in a thin foam bag that was fastened shut.

    They look good but aren't perfect. The ends of the carbon sheets are visible. The construction and drilling look quite precise though. Sidewall and bead seem uniform.

    Both rims rattled when moved. There were two small remnant pieces from the molding process stuck inside. It took twenty minutes to get those pieces to come to rest on the valve hole and grab them with the world's smallest needle nose pliers. I'll post some pictures later.
    Now that i've had time to spend more than a few minutes with the rims, it seems my previous assessment may have been a bit generous.

    There are obvious imperfections in the carbon layup on both rims. It looks like when I do fiberglass work and don't eliminate all the air bubbles between layers. This is immediately visible all along the inner ridge where the spoke holes are located. It isn't just a couple places but all around that ridge on both rims. This might not bother some people but it's enough to make me not be able to describe these rims as "good looking". Indeed, cosmetically carbon rims can't look much worse.

    Also pictured is one of the chunks of stuff that was rattling around inside both rims. While taking these photos another piece dislodged and started rattling around inside. That'll probably (hopefully only) take me another 15 minutes to remove.
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    Wow, I have a set of the matte UD rims too and they looks damn near flawless, nothing like the set you have...

    My only issue with these rims is the extreme spoke bend at the nipples on some of the spokes... wondering if others are having the same issue?

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    Wow dfiler, those are not rims I would be happy with. I'm pretty fed up with waiting for my Carbondales but if the Nextie rims look like this, raw, I'm still looking.
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    This really vindicates my insistence on using silicone bladders for my molding research. They are epoxy-phobic, they come out of the part willingly.

    ...They're also much more expensive than a polyethylene or latex bladder.

    dfiler can you post a variety of pics similar to your first pic please? From slightly different angles, a half dozen would do. UD has some funky light reflection behaviors, like the plumage on a mallard. This is asking a lot, but a relatively high resolution video would also be good.

    What I'm wondering, and I'm hoping I'm wrong, is that the inflatable bladder that was used to consolidate the carbon plies burst during the epoxy curing phase.

    What I'm ultimately afraid of is if some carbon manufacturers are using bladders that are just barely tough enough.

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    I can't decide if it is worth contacting Nextie. Is this just normal variation and considered acceptable? None of my carbon components in the past have exhibited such flaws. And yet there's the QC inspection sticker on each so they must be good, right?

    It makes me wonder if some of the painted rims are equally flawed, at least cosmetically. It is my assumption that this is only a cosmetic issue and that the rims are still structurally good. Can anyone comment further on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    It is my assumption that this is only a cosmetic issue and that the rims are still structurally good. Can anyone comment further on that?
    Right, that's what I'm hoping too. The bits where there is sort of warble, those feel absolutely smooth to blind touch, yeah?
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    My ENVE rims have a bit of that whitening/discolouration going on right where yours is around the spoke hole line.

    Might not look the prettiest on nude rims but i would say the rim integrity is still 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    I can't decide if it is worth contacting Nextie. Is this just normal variation and considered acceptable? None of my carbon components in the past have exhibited such flaws. And yet there's the QC inspection sticker on each so they must be good, right?

    It makes me wonder if some of the painted rims are equally flawed, at least cosmetically. It is my assumption that this is only a cosmetic issue and that the rims are still structurally good. Can anyone comment further on that?
    Yes, by all means contact them and let them know your findings. Maybe send along your photos. It sounds like they are conscientious
    and interested in quality. Perhaps they would like to know their qc person let these slip through. Iam NOT an expert on carbon fiber production but have done a fair bit of epoxy and FG work in the marine industry and the voids you describe are always something to be avoided. Best to advise them of the issue to improve their manufacturing process. BTW super u r going out on the limb for all of us. Won't ever have improvements without intrepid souls taking risk and demonstrating leadership. Thanks!

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    Nextie must be following this thread because they immediately contacted me, assuring that the rims are structurally sound. They also offered to paint the rims or a discount on future purchases.

    The blemishes are obvious if you're checking the rims out but will likely go unnoticed on the trail, especially once covered with mud. In other words, I won't be demanding anything from Nextie and I appreciate their pro-active communication.
    Below are a couple more photos from building up the up the rear wheel. Notice that they look ok in some lighting.

    The 190mm rear hub required building extensions for the park truing stand arms but otherwise it handled the 90mm width just fine.

    Bud and lou tire can be installed and removed without using tires levers. I haven't tried airing them up yet. Any suggestions for tubeless rim strips?

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    Nextie-Bike carbon rims

    Beautiful guys. I want a set really bad now.

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    8898 packing tape 3M Scotch 8898 Packaging Tape | 42302 | RS Hughes Industrial Supply

    I cleaned the inside surface with tar and glue remover then taped it up with 1 wrap, this tape doesn't even weigh 5g per wrap.
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    That tape is only 48mm wide. I've always used tape wide enough that the tire bead sits on top. That way, air pressure isn't trying to force air or stans under the tape edge. Does that not matter?

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    They make it in numerous widths. Here is 96mm.

    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    That tape is only 48mm wide. I've always used tape wide enough that the tire bead sits on top. That way, air pressure isn't trying to force air or stans under the tape edge. Does that not matter?
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    Orange Seal makes a kit, but it's the full deal. I don't see the tape sold separately. Tape is 75mm wide. Never used any of their products, but it's an option.

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    Cycle Haven has Fat Stans that might work good as well.

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    Thanks for the suggestions. 8898 tape does seem like a good option.

    What I'm wondering about it tape width. Because the nextie rims are wide and there is a deep inset area in the middle of the rim, does using a single, wide strip pose a problem? That center groove is deep enough that the smaller diameter there, compared to the larger diameter toward the outer edge, could cause the tape not to make contact in the center groove. It would likely come down to how much 8898 tape can be stretched.

    Can anyone comment on that? Would a roll of 96mm wide tape be better because it can be used as full-width tape? Or would it be better to use a more narrow tape? Two left/right strips or three left/middle/right strips could be done if the tape isn't stretchable enough to work as a single full width strip.

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    Just speaking from a non-carbon rim guy who has done a few fat bike and many non-fatbike wheels tubeless - having a single piece of tape across the entire width is ideal. I have had issues with the tape getting undermined by the sealant when there was a tape seam. Others have had success, and I have had some short term success too with multiple strips, but a single piece of tape that gets held under the tire bead is best in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiler View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. 8898 tape does seem like a good option.

    What I'm wondering about it tape width. Because the nextie rims are wide and there is a deep inset area in the middle of the rim, does using a single, wide strip pose a problem? That center groove is deep enough that the smaller diameter there, compared to the larger diameter toward the outer edge, could cause the tape not to make contact in the center groove. It would likely come down to how much 8898 tape can be stretched.

    Can anyone comment on that? Would a roll of 96mm wide tape be better because it can be used as full-width tape? Or would it be better to use a more narrow tape? Two left/right strips or three left/middle/right strips could be done if the tape isn't stretchable enough to work as a single full width strip.
    It stretches and it can be warmed up to stretch a little extra, but I doubt it could be used on the Nextie rim. I used it on LB Fat rim and there are spots that it could pressed in to the center, but will not automatically adhered to the center channel. The Nextie is MUCH deeper, so it will be more difficult, if it's even possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpd131 View Post
    ...The Nextie is MUCH deeper, so it will be more difficult, if it's even possible.
    That 3M tape looks like the most economically feasible solution. Stupid idea. What if you taped the rim, crammed a tube in there, brought it up to a decent pressure (so you could get the tape to sit flush) and then let it sit for a few days, then went with sealant and chicken liver voodoo steps?

    I haven't ordered the NexTie rims, never used the 3M tape, or a have a fat bike*, but I just like offering unproven suggestions with no basis of experience whatsoever.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WA-CO View Post
    ...I haven't ordered the NexTie rims, never used the 3M tape, or a have a fat bike*, but I just like offering unproven suggestions with no basis of experience whatsoever...
    Well, that makes you an internet authority. All you need to do to get to the next level is mention how the wheels being offset in a Pugsley makes it handle funny*.





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