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    New vee tire 4.7 offerings

    When I link over off side ad for vee tire on fat-bike n go through there are like 4 new 4.7 silca tires: snowshoe XL (plus studded), h Billie, bulldozer.

    http://veetireco.com/wp-content/uplo...h-billie-1.jpg

    I cannot find any other info. That plus 4.7 Dillinger makes me want clownshoes now. Some faster 4.7 rubber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack'sDad View Post
    When I link over off side ad for vee tire on fat-bike n go through there are like 4 new 4.7 silca tires: snowshoe XL (plus studded), h Billie, bulldozer.

    http://veetireco.com/wp-content/uplo...h-billie-1.jpg

    I cannot find any other info. That plus 4.7 Dillinger makes me want clownshoes now. Some faster 4.7 rubber.

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    Nice. Looks like they are going after 27.5+ too.

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    Do you have the links? I just tried this and I'm only seeing the 4 vee tire offerings that have been around for a while (v8, speedster, mission, snowshoe).

    I did see a piece of text scroll by on the site that mentioned 27.5x4 though!! I hadn't heard anything about a larger diameter fatbike wheel, so that is surprising.

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    In my eyes Vee has dropped the ball on every fat tire they put their name on so far. Not getting to excited about anything from them till it is out and examined.
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    ^ Agreed, bdundee.

    I really like the On One Floater, was that manufactured by Vee? If so maybe they should ask On One to design more of their tires while Vee does the tooling.
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    It won't link pages, goto a tire and it offers similar tires below. The prices are different per tire, but all wording is the same snowshoe description. It just shows different treads. I posted link to a specific tread picture.

    Sorry

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    New vee tire 4.7 offerings

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    ^ Agreed, bdundee.

    I really like the On One Floater, was that manufactured by Vee? If so maybe they should ask On One to design more of their tires while Vee does the tooling.
    The designer (me) is no longer with O-O.
    I would be more than happy to design tires for Vee, and I have offered to do so.
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    Anybody have a 27.5 x 50mm rim in the works?
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    Looks like they have some promise! I think people might lean towards better performance vs. a better price given their reputation.

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    That H-Billie looks like what the Snowshoe should have been. More lugs to trap more snow under the tire and to keep it from sliding so much in the corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickmtbnutcase View Post
    That H-Billie looks like what the Snowshoe should have been. More lugs to trap more snow under the tire and to keep it from sliding so much in the corners.
    My thoughts exactly. Of course it'll probably be 150g heavier, but...
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    My spin on Snowshoes...

    I mounted a Vee Snowshoe on the front of my Mukluk and it was a night and day difference from Larry for my first two rides!

    That being said, it was cold! I road on a frozen lake both times below 20 degrees. It held and turned on everything but absolute glare ice. Good feedback. No self tracking at all. There is something to the silica compound. It was just like Blizzaks on my Mini. I can't wait to try them in warmer conditions.

    It it you want a true cold weather tire, the Snowshoe would be hard to beat!

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    any updates on these? when will they be released, estimated MSRP, etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    any updates on these? when will they be released, estimated MSRP, etc?
    I got Snowshoes in January and Bulldozers in July.
    It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    I got Snowshoes in January and Bulldozers in July.
    nice! how do you like them?
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    New vee tire 4.7 offerings-michelin-xcr-xtreme2.jpg
    and i seem to recognize that tread pattern from somewhere....
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    nice! how do you like them?
    Very much. Snowshoes work very well on the snow and the Bulldozers have kung fu grip on the dirt.
    It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    I got Snowshoes in January and Bulldozers in July.
    Lucky you. I ordered snowshoe XL's back in January and still don't have them. I should probably just shutup, but it's very frustrating that not a single part I ordered in January has arrived yet -- no tires, no rims, no nothing. I'm starting to get angry with more suppliers than QBP. At the point where I can actually build the bike I want, I may decide to hell with it, and just stick with my 25-yr-old Jamis, because none of these ****ers deserve my money as I'm tired of being burned by "vaporware" which one can order, just never actually receive. Maybe I just lack the secret fatbike password? PM me if you have it, I'd like a fatbike to ride this winter.
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    I started my last build in March and had no problems getting it completed in 3 months. Maybe you just need to bend a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I started my last build in March and had no problems getting it completed in 3 months. Maybe you just need to bend a little bit.
    Maybe, but those Borealis rims I ordered are now on Version 2. And it seems some mfr bought up the whole run of snowshoe XLs. Neither company has been very communicative about these issues. How, as someone who hasn't bought a bike in 25 years, am I supposed to know what's actually available, vs. mfr ********? IOW, how do I know when I need to "bend a little bit" when suppliers are making promises to me, which apparently they either can't keep, or have no intention of keeping?

    Really? This is on me?
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    The Snowshoe XL was supposed to be available in August.
    Guess what.....it's available.
    The problem seems to be you not be able to figure out a simple purchase.

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    Just cancel your Borealis rims, buy a set of nextie, you'll have them in 2 weeks, any design you want. Much cheaper too.

    Quote Originally Posted by bikefat View Post
    Maybe, but those Borealis rims I ordered are now on Version 2. And it seems some mfr bought up the whole run of snowshoe XLs. Neither company has been very communicative about these issues. How, as someone who hasn't bought a bike in 25 years, am I supposed to know what's actually available, vs. mfr ********? IOW, how do I know when I need to "bend a little bit" when suppliers are making promises to me, which apparently they either can't keep, or have no intention of keeping?

    Really? This is on me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    The Snowshoe XL was supposed to be available in August.
    Guess what.....it's available.
    The problem seems to be you not be able to figure out a simple purchase.
    When I first wanted them last December, they were supposed to be available in February. Yes, I should have checked for the umpteenth time, before posting. Sorry for losing my patience with products that don't show up until 10 months after they're announced. Wait, no, I'm not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikefat View Post
    When I first wanted them last December, they were supposed to be available in February. Yes, I should have checked for the umpteenth time, before posting. Sorry for losing my patience with products that don't show up until 10 months after they're announced. Wait, no, I'm not...
    Obviously, you haven't been here very long; try waiting for Surly/Salsa/45Nrth products. Right now, we've practically got the golden age of fatbikes. Never before has there been such selection and availability of frames, tires, wheels, forks, cranks, hubs and other sundry fatbike items and things will only continue to improve for us. Given the hard time you're having putting together a fatbike, when others are doing just fine, perhaps fatbikes just aren't for you. As someone who hasn't bought a bike in 25 years, building a custom from the ground up may not have been the wisest move. Buying something already built from your lbs or online would have been considerably easier and caused much less angst for you. An added bonus is that you would have been able to narrow down exactly what you wanted and didn't want at a much lower cost.

    Instead, you're stabbing in the dark, trying to build your 1st bike in 25 years. You don't exactly know what to get or where to find it and because of that, you're frustrated and lashing out; your inability to assemble components for your bike is everyone's fault but your own. Take a deep breath and relax; parts are readily available. I'm sure there are forum members here who would be more than happy to help you get what you need, if you would just ask politely, instead of b¡tching incessantly.
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    Here is a pic of the H-Billie on a marge lite. Fork is an offset 135mm surly.


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    Nice! How does it ride?
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    Rolls slower on tar than a larry, haven't had a chance to get it in the dirt. It is nice to finally get away from Surly brand components in the fat bike world.

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    Got some Bulldozers on the way. Probably won't ride them till real snow though.
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    I agree. I wont own anything surley if I can avoid it. Still looking for a nate substitute though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Got some Bulldozers on the way. Probably won't ride them till real snow though.
    They look like a Good snow tire.
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    Is the Bulldozer 4.7 actually 4.7 inches wide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    Is the Bulldozer 4.7 actually 4.7 inches wide?
    I had right around 4.4" on a 90mm rim setup tubeless.

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    Ok, seen them specked on a bike with a Bluto but didn't know if something that big fit the Bluto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    Ok, seen them specked on a bike with a Bluto but didn't know if something that big fit the Bluto.
    Bulldozer measured at widest, outermost knob is 4.25 inches on 80mm rims on my brand new Blizzard. Does the 4.7 printed on the sidewall need an asterisk *when mounted on 100mm rims???

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    I think my bulldozer measured 104mm at the widest point when mounted on 80mm rims at 10 psi. Snowshoe Xl measures 110 on the same rim and H-Billie was around 90mm. Rough numbers for general comparison, I should have written them down.

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    When I did my tubeless set up on my RD/Dillinger4's I happen to measure the tire while it was at it's max psi and it measured 3.96. Once I got it back down to 8 psi is measured at 3.80. So maybe most of these companies are stating measurements at max psi.

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    Well I have an H-Billie (4.25) and a Snowshoe (4.7 old one, not the XL) sitting new side by side and the carcass is within 3mm of each other in width laying flat. The tread is very similar but the H-Billie has a lot more tread blocks and is therefore heavier. I am planning on running the H-Billie up front and Snowshoe in the rear of my Bucksaw.

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    Does anyone know where you can even purchase the Snowshoe XL? Not the regular snowshoe, the big one.

    All this discussion about Vee tires but I swear they are impossible to find.

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    Yeah - I thought the Moto Night Train was supposed to get the Snowshoe XL, but came with the regular Snowshoe.

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    They were in stock a couple weeks ago but sold out. I'm kicking myself for not picking up a set of the XL with studs for $130ea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCollector View Post
    Yeah - I thought the Moto Night Train was supposed to get the Snowshoe XL, but came with the regular Snowshoe.
    I have a NT on order. Always a snowshoe. Never an XL spec'd at any point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    I have a NT on order. Always a snowshoe. Never an XL spec'd at any point.
    Well, my bad then.... I could have sworn I read somewhere that XL were being subbed. Proves the point about what you read on the Internet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    They were in stock a couple weeks ago but sold out. I'm kicking myself for not picking up a set of the XL with studs for $130ea.
    In stock where specifically? I feel like I need to know the secret handshake on some of this stuff. Very odd that a consumer needs to work so hard to get a companies product.

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    I got my snowshoe xl on Amazon. 105 USD. Now they are out of stock. Never ride better tire in wet condition. My friends was riding bud/Larry. He had to walk places I was riding. It was to slippery, for bud/Larry.
    My friend sold bud/Larry and bought snowshoe ( not xl). And we went out riding again. ( wet condition). After some minutes ride, my friend smiled and says -- I'm in heaven.
    In wet condition like we got in Norway now the silicon compound rubber is awesome. They are really god on rocks and roots.

    When the winter comes I screw in koldkutters. Lot's of them to have fun on ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamba29er View Post
    In stock where specifically? I feel like I need to know the secret handshake on some of this stuff. Very odd that a consumer needs to work so hard to get a companies product.
    And just think, it's easier than ever before to get some of this stuff. Small niche market where you have to call a shop 1/2 way around the world, give them your CC# and then cross your fingers that the item arrives let alone in one piece. Fun times!

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    The Snowshoe XL is back in stock at Amazon:

    Amazon.com : Vee Rubber Snowshoe XL Studless Fat Bike Tire: 26" x 4.8" 120tpi : Sports & Outdoors

    So is the Bulldozer:

    http://www.amazon.com/Vee-Rubber-Bul...CTTE56D04QN1AN

    Must resist the temptation to order one of each... Wife will kill me. :-)

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    Anyone have the stud ready snowshoe XL? What studs did you use and what pattern/how many studs. I would like to get one and put a minimal amount of studs in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urmb View Post
    Anyone have the stud ready snowshoe XL? What studs did you use and what pattern/how many studs. I would like to get one and put a minimal amount of studs in.

    thx,
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    I do, but I haven't added studs yet. We have a little ice but no snow. The grip is really amazing even without studs. When I do add studs I am planning on adding the new 45North concave studs in each available slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    I do, but I haven't added studs yet. We have a little ice but no snow. The grip is really amazing even without studs. When I do add studs I am planning on adding the new 45North concave studs in each available slot.
    Where can I buy 45north concave studs. Do you have a link?

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