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    Quote Originally Posted by Diaonic View Post
    I got the same bike about a month ago and love it. Did you frame saver it?

    If you did, do I need to take everything apart or can I use the frame holes to do it?
    I didn't bother frame saving my Pugs when I first built it. After 3yrs+ of beach/winter/trail use I had it apart to repaint and I frame saved it at that point.

    My Pugs is going strong now 5yrs after I built it and I don't expect it to have any issues. Surly's bikes are not delicate and don't use uber thin tubing.

    I wouldn't worry about it unless you think it will totally bug you.

    To do a good job you need to take the bike apart and be ready for a significant mess. You can always spray a bit of frame saver into the holes and let it collect at the bottom of the various tubes - where any water would collect as well.
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    Thanks to Keski for his vid postings and blog/forum write ups. Helped push me over the edge into fat bike ownership. I get my bike on Wed!

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    I appreciate the kind words about my craptacular content. I'm humbled that some peeps have actually decided to get fat because of this thread.

    Here is a diddy I whipped together tonight from my ride today.

    I call it Today's Ride. Very profound.

    Just me riding my Fat Bike in one of the most beautiful places in the whole wide world. North Western Ontario.

    Bonus! It's less than 2 minutes long!


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    Winter slowly approaches North Western Ontario. We had a few flurries but nothing major. The temperatures are yo-yoing up and down the freezing mark.

    I really should start a new thread. Haha. I bought the bike I should have in the first place. The Surly Moonlander. More float for my boat.

    My younger brother always asked questions about my Fat Bike. But always cringed when I mentioned the price. He wanted one but didn't want to pay for one.

    So being the amazing brother that I am. I said if he bought a frame and fork I would give him all the parts off my Necromancer.

    I got the above average lung capacity and good looks from my parents. He got the height. My frame is too small for him. So we ordered him a Pugsley frame and fork.

    So he's now got himself a Surly Necro Pug for less than a grand with one season old parts. I got a spanking new Moonlander.

    No pictures yet or unveiling video yet. We only picked up our bikes yesterday from the LBS.

    I did take my brother out on his first Fat Bike Adventure today.....


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    Well we got our first real bit of snow today. Just a bit more than a dusting. At least it covered the ground.

    Went out on my Moonie for a trail scouting mission. I could see on Google maps that 2 trails I had been on before link together. I tried to link them together this summer. But huge puddles and mud holes and swamp and pond crossings made me turn around. Had to wait until things froze up.

    Yeah I did manage to find the missing trail link. I had planned to make one of my mind numbingly boring 20 min. vlogs of the ride. But the further in I got. Things got really, really icy underneath the snow. There was some sort of flash freeze in the area with snow on top hiding it all. There was ice in places I didn't think there would or could be. I was spending more time walking and pushing my bike than riding it.

    This happened more than once...hahahaha..



    Anyways. With more snow and snowmobile traffic it will be a super fun loop. It climbs to a high point. You can do the loop in either direction. Clockwise you will gradually climb what should be all rideable climbs when hardpacked snow. Then have a fast, slightly scary downhill.

    Counter clockwise you will gain almost all your elevation with one brutal uphill that I don't think will be rideable in winter. It is brutal enough in summer. But then you will have a fun, gradual downhill that stair steps it's way down. I think it will be awesome in midwinter conditions. As long as lots of snowmobiles go over it. It is a 15 kilometer loop.

    End of report.

    Pictures of my new Moonie next....

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    My new Moonie!

    Some of the pictures are darker. It was after 5pm and the light was fading fast....











    I took a bunch of shots like this. But my cell phone didn't want to focus. This is the only one that turned out and it's still crap. Imagine it is in focus!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keski View Post
    This happened more than once...hahahaha..
    Wow, too slippery to walk! Studs probably wouldn't make that any more rideable if there was enough snow to make the tire float a few millimeters.

    Regarding the previous video, I recognize that front end bounce from a ride I did earlier in the week. With low pressuring in the front tire it would bounce like crazy whenever I stood to climb. Snow today was packed hard, I raise my pressure to ??? (gauge broken) and was able to go about 3kph faster and the bike handled better in the corners.

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    I've enjoyed this thread all along. Your vids are great. I made the jump from Necro to ML as well, but I'm keeping the Pug as the narrow option for 4" rubber. I put a Dillinger on the front for my commute this winter, and I'll swap on some Knards in the spring. I thought about selling it but just couldn't bring myself to do it, and somehow rationalized the expense of both. And then all the snow came, lots of it early again like last year, and I'm not regretting it one bit.

    Looking forward to posts of your adventures on the Moonie.

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    Two Fat Bike Brothers go for a ride. Brothers by blood. Brothers by bike.





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    Global Fat Bike Day 2013! Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada Edition!

    Well. 6 Fat Bikers were supposed to show up. But the first really cold day of winter (-20c) plus the accompanying wind chill kept 3 riders away. So me and 2 other Fat Bikers headed out on some snowy trails at a Centennial Park. 2 Moonlanders and 1 Necro Pug. That is probably a record for a Fat Bike ride gathering in this city!

    The Fat Biker who organized the ride wasn't feeling well and went home after 30mins. He was a trooper for even showing up! So me and my fellow Moonlander rider continued on.

    The results of the ride are found here......


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    We had group snowshoe trail packing session yesterday. 7 people showed up to help pack down trails for Fat Biking. Only 4 of us actually owned Fat Bikes so it was great to have the extra people to help.

    The snow we have is very grainy. It does not pack very well. 7 people went over this stretch of trail with snowshoes 24 hours before. Yes it was rideable but I was expecting it to be much better packed down and hardened up.

    I rode the trail in vid the 3 times. The first 2 times I rode it as fast as I could but wiped out each time. The 3rd time is what you see in the vid. A much more sedate pace but I made it all the way. There is a very steep hill with a off camber, side slope near the end of the trail. Even my Bud and Lou combo would barely grip.

    I present to you. Sweet Winter Single Track #1. Might be a continuing series...if you're nice to me.

    If you're curious what the same trail looks like to ride in the summer. It's post #85 in this thread on page 4.


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    Merry Christmas to me!

    I picked me up one of the Surly made by Revelate Designs custom fitted frame bags for me Moonie! Most rides I can now leave my backpack at home. Wear it if I need more carrying capacity.

    I also picked up two, 530ml Thermos thingamabobs. Should keep me fluids drinkable in even the coldest days we get in these parts.

    On the weekend I put room temp Gatorade in one. Threw it in my backpack and did the snowshoe session at -20c ish. After 2 hours it was still pee warm!

    Pics installed on the bike to come...


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    Just found this thread and I am inspired to go buy a Surley Pugsley that my LBS just happens to have in my size. Thanks for all the great video's and Merry Christmas.

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    There are lighter and fancier fat bikes, but the Pugs is a classic that is still fun to ride.

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    Reading through lots of different threads on here and was trying to figure out how big of a tire I can put on my Necromancer Pug?

    So far it seems like Vee Snowshoes would fit both front and back. It also looks like I could put a Bud in the front, but I'm uncertain if a Bud or Lou would fit in the back?

    Wondering what have others done and what kind of a difference did it make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedivewi View Post
    Reading through lots of different threads on here and was trying to figure out how big of a tire I can put on my Necromancer Pug?

    So far it seems like Vee Snowshoes would fit both front and back. It also looks like I could put a Bud in the front, but I'm uncertain if a Bud or Lou would fit in the back?

    Wondering what have others done and what kind of a difference did it make?

    Thanks,

    Jon
    Hey Jon. The Necromancer comes with the same fork as the Moonlander. So you can run a 100mm Clownshoe rim with a 4.8 tire up front.

    Bud or Lou don't fit in the back without mods.

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    One of the most fun things you can do on a Fat Bike is ride frozen rivers, creeks and streams. Me and my brother. Aka The Fat Bike Bros went out for a spin on a winding frozen river just on the edge of town. I used snowshoes to make a trail going upstream the day before. Downstream from our starting point a snowmachine had done the work for us.

    I present to you....Frozen River Raid!


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    Was at my L to the B to the S today. They got in a special edition Pug. I took some crappy picshures












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    Polar Flippin Vortex. It finally broke. After weeks of killer and record breaking overnight lows and daytime highs no warmer than -25c. It has finally warmed up a little bit.
    -38c before windchill one night. With windchill it was -54c. Ouchies. It sucked the Fat Biking life right out of me

    Now at least the daytime highs are something reasonable. -10c to -15ish. I celebrated with a night ride and one of my patented boring vlogs...


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    I've lived in this area all my life. Save for one year. I'm always surprised when I discover a new interesting place just a hop, skip and pedal stroke away from the city that I didn't know about. But I keep finding them. This is one of them.

    Me and my brother. The Fat Bike Bros went to find the Lost Mountain Lookout.....


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    I'm enjoying this thread! Nice videos and pics.

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    I thought spring was around the corner? Apparently not. I am growing weary of the cold. The only good thing is that it firms up the snow. I just went outside to plug in my block heater on my car so it will start in the morning. The snow makes that stupid, cold crunch sound under my feet.



    We had a week of decent temps and decent riding conditions. Snowmobile trails were in primo condition. As seen here...


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    Same sort of nastiness here, but with more wind that will push the windchill to -50C Friday and Saturday night.

    I'm not a fan of the styrofoam sound snow makes at those temperatures either.

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    Welcome to Canada. I ordered these shoes last winter. Winter 2012/2013. I just got them today. Winter 2013/2014. I have small feet, but I make up for it elsewhere. Not a size the Canadian Lake distributor orders a lot of I guess. You try and support the Canadian distributor instead of ordering online from the states and you get treated like a second class customer. My LBS gave me a good price for them.

    Got some big rides planned out at our family camp/cottage this weekend with my brother. The Fat Bike Bros. I have a few days to get used to riding clipless pedals again. I've been running platforms since the snow and cold hit.



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    Wow. Lots of exciting new bikes. I'm still riding my boring ole Moonie. Outdated and obsolete.

    This is a ride from 3 weekends ago. I delayed editing it since I used 3 cameras and had 9 hours of total footage from the ride. It felt kinda daunting and overwhelming to approach and squeeze into a 2 min vid.

    We were still totally in winters grip 3 weeks ago. But the melt has finally started in the area.


    So this is me and my brother. The Fat Bike Bros did a ride to the 100+ year old Flett Railway Tunnel....


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    Miss me?

    It has been a few weeks since I have ridden my Fat Bike. The snow is almost all gone. I've been enjoying riding my other 'faster' bikes. Plus it is that in between time of the season where the off road trails are still wet and muddy and there is even snow left in some places.

    This weekend I went out to our family camp/cottage to help my dad cut firewood for the cooking stove and sauna. I brought my Moonie along and did the ride to Mountain Lake. The ride takes a bit over 2 hours. It is a occasionally maintained out and back gravel road with some tough climbs and super fun downhills.

    I would have to say that it was the most enjoyable ride I have done on my Fat Bike yet. Yes I would have been faster overall on one of my other bikes. The Fat Bike was great on the climbs. All the traction you need. You can just focus on your effort rather than looking for the lines with more traction.

    The downhills were awesome. There are numerous washouts from spring run off. Again I would probably have been faster one of my other bikes. But it would been that edge of control sketchiness feeling. The Fat Bike was very confidence inspiring on the downhills. In fact I hit a new Fat Bike top speed record on this ride.

    I present to you another one of my patented 20min boring vlogs. My ride to Moutain Lake...


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    Re: My Surly Necromancer Experience Thread

    Of course we miss you. I don't have time to watch the video this minute, but I hope this one you narrate it like the old ones.
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    I'm back and worse than ever...

    Moonlander update time. My main method of staying in shape during the weekdays is my ride to work. In midwinter conditions the ride takes 40-45mins on a Fat Bike. My Moonie is a training tool that will allow me to avoid almost any indoor training. Part of making that happen is some studded tires. So I scooped up some Dillinger 5 studded.



    Fat Bike Freaks like myself always wonder how much those things weigh. I work in a microbiology lab. So I brought my tires in and pushed our media person out of the way and weighed mine. I notice these are a fair bit lighter than on another thread. This scale is calibrated yearly by a professional 3rd party. Only a 3 gram difference between tires. Impressive quality control...







    The finished product. Taking out for a test ride in 30mins or so. The conditions outside are perfect. Yesterday it rained most of the day. In the evening it changed to freezing rain...then to frozen pellets and then eventually to snow. So we have about 5cm's of snow over a base of ice...


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    Oh yeah. I still make 20-30 min long boring vlogs.....this is from an endurance ride from last Friday....



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    Minus 20 celsius, you can have that to yourself.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Haha...it is there abouts again tonight...


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    I really enjoy this thread. I like the transition for Necro to Moonlander. I had ridden a Blackborow from Salsa and I rode a Pug Ops (Green Olive version). I just wasn't sure if I wanted the 5" tires... plus I got a really great deal on the Pug Ops so I went with that. Fun bike so far. What was it like for you going from the Necro to the Moonlander?

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    Exploring the old Grand Trunk Railway on a Big Fatty...

    Grand Trunk Railway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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    Just some pics from a Fat Bike ride from a couple O weeks ago. 2 Moonlanders and one Salsa Blackborow along the rugged north shore of Lake Superior.

    These were all taken by the owner of my chosen LBS...









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