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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

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    My brand new surly XS frame set
    This is my winter project and since I already have a 907 so I am in no big hurry... hope to have it ready by March .
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    Re: My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

    I don't understand the post title or what you mean. I like the blue pugs this year though.
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    almost forgot My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-imag0190.jpg
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    Yeah, I'm confused by the title too.
    Nice blue though!
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    Ok...

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    This is going to be cool just like the fat bike forum of old.

    your still nuts SJ!

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    Good job!

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    S&S couplings?

    Or sticking a CRF 450 motor in there!
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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-imag0192.jpg

    enough for today
    still waiting on 9.5 feet of tubing from Nova
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    Re: My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

    Fat bike tandem? ! ?

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    goodness gracious..looking forward to how this turns out.

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    Nice! 9.5 feet, sounds like you are building a monster for sure.

    Looking forward to see just what you do create.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertdc View Post
    Fat bike tandem? ! ?
    I am thinking the same!

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    I like the "I'll just leave this here" nature of this thread.

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    fat box bike?

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    Re: My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

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    Ahhhh I see... its OK though... probably just a surface scratch
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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Recumbent?
    I doubt that's what's going on here, but I would love it. I would really like to make a fat recumbent myself, for when my back finally gives up on upright riding.

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    enough for today
    still waiting on 9.5 feet of tubing from Nova
    You're affixing either a Specialized or a Fuji frame with a Pugsley frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt-Orange View Post
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    I've been wondering when someone was going to add some S&S couplers to a Pugsley. Although, is that what you're doing? Doesn't look like quite enough room left on the tail side to braze them on...

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    When I first saw it, I thought S&S but when I looked closer I ruled that out because he cut the down tube straight down, if he was doing S&S I believe he would have cut the tube straight across.

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    I've been wondering when someone was going to add some S&S couplers to a Pugsley. Although, is that what you're doing? Doesn't look like quite enough room left on the tail side to braze them on...
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    That's gonna be dirty!

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    Turning a Pugsley into a Walgoose Beast?

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    Subbed. this is interesting.

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    Its half KHS and half Surly
    I think that makes it a Kurly
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    ...fat swing bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt-Orange View Post
    Its half KHS and half Surly
    I think that makes it a Kurly
    I'm tired
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    Or maybe a SuKHS, sorry I couldn't resist?
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    Dude this is great. Keep it up.
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    Looks interesting. Cool post.

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    An echo from out of the past from somewhere deep within the Surly Castle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt-Orange View Post
    Its half KHS and half Surly
    I think that makes it a Kurly
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    Hmm, didn't think KHS. I took a shot at Specialized or Fuji based on the J&B cycles sticker on the frame.

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    What could possibly go wrong, here. Love it.
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    Anxiously waiting for updates...

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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-imag0199.jpg

    still waiting on my Nova order
    this is what I will be using off the donor bikes
    was hoping to use the seat tube but couldn't bring myself to use a small 26mm seat post for the captain
    I had to scrap the whole front because the head tube needed to go up 3 inches
    a 14.5 inch bottom bracket height would have been silly
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    Good job!

    I Can't wait to watch this build!
    Only seen one other fat tandem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beard of Power View Post
    I Can't wait to watch this build!
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    Only good things will come of this!

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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-imag0214.jpgMy Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-imag0213.jpg


    mitered the new seat tube
    carved some pumpkins
    went to work ....

    not a bad day indeed
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    The middle pumpkin would be a great design for your headbadge...

    I'm enjoying this build. Keep it coming
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    Have you rotated the stoker seat tube back? (less BB drop?) Seems more slack than stock and obviously more so than the captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bme107 View Post
    Have you rotated the stoker seat tube back? (less BB drop?) Seems more slack than stock and obviously more so than the captain.
    I agree, it looks like the seat tube might even interfere with the tire if you run it forward in the dropouts.

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    I agree, it looks like the seat tube might even interfere with the tire if you run it forward in the dropouts.
    The rear triangle and ST have not been modified so the tire clearance has not changed, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    The rear triangle and ST have not been modified so the tire clearance has not changed, either.
    That's what I thought, too..

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    Subscribed and looking forward to this.

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    that photo is a little weird
    the seat tube for the stroker are captain are both at 72 degrees
    I'm working on getting all the parts together for the cranks
    my schedule is brutal this month so other than getting parts it probably won't look much different for a while
    that and snow bike season is right around the corner and I can't leave my 907 just laying around
    being a fat fat biker is not the goal

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    Sweet, I have good luck with Echo parts for my trials bikes. Good stuff especially considering the price.

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    So right side timing chain going from a single bmx freewheel in the front to a dinglespeed freewheel on the rear crank?

    Please please tell me it's getting a NuVinci on the back....

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    Now I'm really psyched to see this. Trials bits!? Can't wait.

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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-imag0303.jpg

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    Good luck with your build. Here's a picture our Moonlander tandem that's been dubbed the "Fat Mother Trucker". I hope the I9 hub will hold up. We blew through three XT freehub bodies and a hub before settling on a Chris King rear. No problems since changing over and we've raced the wheels off it.

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    BTW- Welcome to the smallest cycling niche in the world. Be prepared to answer a ton of questions while out riding! If you're in the midwest we'll have to try and get the bikes together for a photo op.

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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-tandem-miter.jpg

    joehappy how in the hell did I not see you at iceman ?
    kind of bummed I didn't get a look at that beast
    I am hoping the I9 holds up
    I have no way of adding a granny gear so I think it is going to be ok
    the bike will see more gravel grinding and road than anything else so one can only hope
    my 9 year old is just big enough to fit on the back
    my wife is just over 5"1" so she will fit also
    I went fat more for comfort than anything else
    midwest potholes for the win
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    I so can't wait to ride b**ch on that!! Team Joe-bOb ftw

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    you are going to have to stand the whole time bobby because I don't think they make a 500mm seat post dude
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    That frame looks great. The I9 should hold up for you. One quick question, is the front bottom bracket 100mm? It looks narrower that's why I'm asking. Looks like you're using an eccentric BB to tension the timing chain.

    Your wife and son are going to have a great time on it.

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    Any reason that you chose the stoker down tube placed as such? Can't recall seeing one land mid captain seat tube w/o a continuation through to the head tube. Maybe you're adding one after the other members are tacked.

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    the front bottom bracket is 68mm with a 128 mm width
    the back 100 mm bottom bracket is 148mm width
    by running the chainring on the outside of the crank in the front to a chainring on the inside of the back crank with a few thin spacers I am able to get a perfect chain line with a standard front 68 mm ebb
    there will be a center tube in the front triangle bme107
    need to get things welded before adding
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    Great, now I'm looking at this Santana roadie I have on the ceiling, going, hmm, new fork, cut the rear end off and make it 29er+.

    Bad bad bad thoughts. Not on the heels of an electric Moonlander that's not even here yet.....

    Love it, keep on truckin'!
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    joehappy what is your head tube angle and how did if feel on the tighter stuff at iceman ?
    mendon make sure you get out a ruler and check your bb height before you make the first cut
    I had to rebuild the entire tandem front end because I didn't want a 14 inch bottom bracket height
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    Yeah, good point on the BB.

    I like my idea, but the thought of hacking up a fillet brazed Columbus tubed, pretty much NOS vintage Santana hurts my brain.

    Gotta let this one percolate a while
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    We did ours a bit different than you. We cut the front off of a Moonlander and used the back half for the tandem. We then cut the back off of a Pugsley and used the front triangle. The top tub on the front was replaced for a lower standover. We sourced some 4130 for the boom tube and the stoker top tube and diagnal tube. Welded it all together and viola a Moonlander tandem!

    The short answer is its the stock head tube angle.

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    Edit: This is a reply to a different thread. I have no idea how it ended up here. Sorry!

    There's a trend to slacker head angles, not to make your fatbike handle better, but for the marketing reason that this is an attractive feature to new owners who have come from suspension equipped bikes.

    Slack head angles compensate for fork compression and prevent binding and stutter on long travel telescopic forks. Under compression they actually have a steep head angle, just like a rigid bike should.

    So unless there is going to be a plentiful supply of suspension forks on the market this year, I can't see the point other than following the trend of a completely different style of bike.

    It all comes down to having the correct amount of trail.

    However you can adapt to riding just about anything and on a fatbike tyre pressures make the most difference. There's not many bicycles where you can find a variation of 300% in tyre pressures as a normal thing, eg 4psi for bog, 8 psi for trail, and 12 psi for road and hard baked surface.
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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-go-long-.jpg

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    looking pretty bad ass

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    I really need to learn how to braze/weld whatever.

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    Sweet build! and an interesting door!! Looking good...
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    I don't think I could wheelie that thing and yes it is a nice door!!

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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-cranky.jpg

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    Wow is that too cool I would paint it Tardis blue if I where you.

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    joehappy how in the hell did I not see you at iceman ?
    kind of bummed I didn't get a look at that beast
    I am hoping the I9 holds up
    I have no way of adding a granny gear so I think it is going to be ok
    the bike will see more gravel grinding and road than anything else so one can only hope
    my 9 year old is just big enough to fit on the back
    my wife is just over 5"1" so she will fit also
    I went fat more for comfort than anything else
    midwest potholes for the win
    hey now I spy some Point Beer.
    BTW I'm diggin this build up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DITCHMAN View Post
    Wow is that too cool I would paint it Tardis blue if I where you.
    Is there any other choice ?
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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"-imag0364.jpg44 lbs of fun
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    Dude you are my hero. I give you two thumbs up but it should be noted I only have two hands.
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    Two Fat to Fail. Well done.

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    thanks guys
    It is going to be dark blue
    actually the official bbc tardis blue for all you fellow nerds out there
    I am trying to figure out where I can get it painted for cheep right now
    powder coat is not an option because I think it sucks
    once you get a scratch you can not fix it
    I am going to start on my hitch rack first
    going to hold it by the drop outs and have the wheels hang off separate
    everything is going on the back burner for a while because the snow is great right now and my 907 has only been out twice in the last month
    all work and no play makes Burnt-Orange a dull boy
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    Re: My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

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    thanks guys
    It is going to be dark blue
    actually the official bbc tardis blue for all you fellow nerds out there
    Because this Pugsley is bigger on the inside?
    ...Be careful what you're looking at because it might be looking back...

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    Re: My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

    Would you mind listing all the frame geometry? And of course we need more pictures please. :-)

    Most excellent thread/build!

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    Bme I don't have all the numbers but the rear is the same as a pug
    the bb drop is 1.75
    head and seat tubes are at 72 degrees
    front seat tube is 17.5 the back is 14.5
    reach is the same as a medium pugs
    I used 72 degrees because that is what is on the fundango ... closest thing I could find to what I wanted to build
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    That thing turned out sweet! Load it up with bags and gear and you're set!

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    Or kids
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    My Dr Frankenstein pugsley build "this will upset some"

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt-Orange View Post
    thanks guys
    It is going to be dark blue
    actually the official bbc tardis blue for all you fellow nerds out there
    I am trying to figure out where I can get it painted for cheep right now
    powder coat is not an option because I think it sucks
    once you get a scratch you can not fix it
    I am going to start on my hitch rack first
    going to hold it by the drop outs and have the wheels hang off separate
    everything is going on the back burner for a while because the snow is great right now and my 907 has only been out twice in the last month
    all work and no play makes Burnt-Orange a dull boy
    My experience with powdercoating is it is more resistant to chipping and scratches than wet paint, and you can do touch ups just as well. Just mix the dry powder in clear nail polish and you have a perfect match for most colors.
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    automotive grade paint with a hardener is kind of hard to beat for finish
    I might change things in the future also
    there is a small chance I might try a rolloff in the future or make some other small changes
    its nice to hit it with a touchup gun and feather it to together sand and buff if I have to
    can't powder coat something this big at home also
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    You magnificent b@st@rd!
    Strava made me do it....

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    Yep, that's some seriously hot doo doo there, nice work!
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    nice bike, but you invest this much in a bike and don't want to invest in a ~$100 PC job? yes it can be touched up like wet. get some knowledge in finishes before you knock em. happy NY

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