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    Mukluk Rear Rack

    Quote Originally Posted by Yetiski
    Anyone find a rear rack that bolts up to those nice threaded holes all over the rear triangle.I would like a rack and put something to stop the slop from shooting up my back.
    I think this could prob be in its own thread...

    I mounted the Old Man Mountain Sherpa read rack for disk brakes. Its not perfect, but it works. I rode with it today for the first time. This will prob go though some additional modifications... The rack stays are just a fraction too short, so its tilting slightly forward. And the mounting brackets are not quite right. I do have clamps to attach it to the seat stays instead of the mount holes, but for now this is ok.
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    Just before reading this thread I tried a Bontrager rack on my Mukluk and it didn't even kinda fit.

    I really like the look of this one, but I am thinking its not going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timhMN
    I think this could prob be in its own thread...

    I mounted the Old Man Mountain Sherpa read rack for disk brakes. Its not perfect, but it works. I rode with it today for the first time. This will prob go though some additional modifications... The rack stays are just a fraction too short, so its tilting slightly forward. And the mounting brackets are not quite right. I do have clamps to attach it to the seat stays instead of the mount holes, but for now this is ok.

    That looks terrible.
    I'm sure those experts at Salsa with their years of snow and adventure biking experience have a good solution for this.

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    ...yeah, the OMM I bought from Speedway fit my Fatback like it was part of the frame design process...
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    My Topeak Explorer mounted just fine after I clean out all of the mounting holes. I used the non-disc model because the disc model would not line up at all.

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    Looks like you need to get the longer stays that OMM sells. IIRC they come in 2" increments. Using the appropriate length stay will solve you angle discrepency and allow you to relocate the bottom bolt placement. Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9GUY9
    Just before reading this thread I tried a Bontrager rack on my Mukluk and it didn't even kinda fit.

    I really like the look of this one, but I am thinking its not going to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbasinger
    That looks terrible.
    I'm sure those experts at Salsa with their years of snow and adventure biking experience have a good solution for this.
    I agree that its not right. I was just attempting to make due with the hardware I had on hand. I sent email to the OMM guys, and they recommend clamps on the seat stays instead of going to the frame eyelets. I'll prob play around with it some more this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timhMN
    I agree that its not right. I was just attempting to make due with the hardware I had on hand. I sent email to the OMM guys, and they recommend clamps on the seat stays instead of going to the frame eyelets. I'll prob play around with it some more this weekend.

    Try removing the aluminum adapters completely and just bolt it directly to the frame at the lower seatstay mounts. You will have to spread the rack a little to get it to fit. Looks like there will be enough tire clearance. This is how we designed the Fat Backs.

    If the seat stay mounts seem funny in this position, then get some traditional rack stays from a bike shop, the ones that are thinner and have a twist to them, drill 4 holes in the top plate of the rack and mount it up from the top of the rack instead of from the sides.
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    Thanks for providing Tim with some advice their Pete. Mounting racks on most Fatbikes can be difficult as it is sometimes hard to find on that will just clear the tire. The OMM's are the most commonly used and can be configured/modified as Pete described to mount effectively and cleanly.

    - Most every rack on the market will have to be spread to fit the wide back end of the Mukluk and the stays will have to be modified/tweaked to mount nice and clean at the seatstay.

    Tim, being that you are in MN I'd be happy to find a time to connect and get that Rack mounted nice and clean. I've fidgeted with a few on my Mukluk, but ultimately have gotten away with using a frame bag/seatbag/and handlebar harness for the multi-day winter rides I've done. Pete and many others have experience at the big dance in AK. I've got little interest in winter *racing*. I'd rather carry a woodstove and relax around a fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbasinger
    Try removing the aluminum adapters completely and just bolt it directly to the frame at the lower seatstay mounts. You will have to spread the rack a little to get it to fit. Looks like there will be enough tire clearance. This is how we designed the Fat Backs.

    If the seat stay mounts seem funny in this position, then get some traditional rack stays from a bike shop, the ones that are thinner and have a twist to them, drill 4 holes in the top plate of the rack and mount it up from the top of the rack instead of from the sides.

    Here is a not very good picture of the same rack mounted on my Fat Back as described above. Notice how it's just mounted directly on without the use of the dropout mounting extensions.
    I have the rack stays mounted on the top plate of my rack because that's where they worked on another bike of mine, but they'd work fine mounted from the side with those thick OMM rack stays and from the looks of your frame I'd guess it'd be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbasinger
    Try removing the aluminum adapters completely and just bolt it directly to the frame at the lower seatstay mounts. You will have to spread the rack a little to get it to fit. Looks like there will be enough tire clearance. This is how we designed the Fat Backs.

    If the seat stay mounts seem funny in this position, then get some traditional rack stays from a bike shop, the ones that are thinner and have a twist to them, drill 4 holes in the top plate of the rack and mount it up from the top of the rack instead of from the sides.
    There isn't enough length in the OMM rack supports to reach the Mukluk lower seat stay mounts without the dropout adapters. It's about an inch short. In addition, it kind of seemed like the rack would be too far forward even if it did fit, panniers, etc might give you heal issues. I moved the rack struts to the seat stays using clamps, which allowed me to level it out - this is what was recommended to me by OMM. I had just wanted to see if I could get it to work without the clamps. I suspect different racks will look/work better with the upper mounts, but this being kind of a short rack to begin with I think the clamps look better as well as allow the rack to be leveled. I would like something different for the side extensions, but actually it does kind of provide a lot of connection options for bungee cords, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timhMN
    There isn't enough length in the OMM rack supports to reach the Mukluk lower seat stay mounts without the dropout adapters. It's about an inch short. In addition, it kind of seemed like the rack would be too far forward even if it did fit, panniers, etc might give you heal issues. I moved the rack struts to the seat stays using clamps, which allowed me to level it out - this is what was recommended to me by OMM. I had just wanted to see if I could get it to work without the clamps. I suspect different racks will look/work better with the upper mounts, but this being kind of a short rack to begin with I think the clamps look better as well as allow the rack to be leveled. I would like something different for the side extensions, but actually it does kind of provide a lot of connection options for bungee cords, etc.

    I'm sure that will work, but it is sitting really high and there is a lot of extra stuff down there with the dropout extensions. OMM makes a separate extension just for something like this.
    Designed to mount to the frame but will give you another inch or 2 of length. If you have the tools and time you could cut down the dropout extensions you have to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMKM
    Tim, being that you are in MN I'd be happy to find a time to connect and get that Rack mounted nice and clean. I've fidgeted with a few on my Mukluk, but ultimately have gotten away with using a frame bag/seatbag/and handlebar harness for the multi-day winter rides I've done. Pete and many others have experience at the big dance in AK. I've got little interest in winter *racing*. I'd rather carry a woodstove and relax around a fire.
    Thanks a lot for the offer! If I don't come up with a solution I'm happy with, I'll definitely get in touch. I might tap you for possible handlebar mount solutions. :-)

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    these racks

    So I might have missed part of this discussion, but what about these forthcoming racks from Salsa, the "Wanderlust?":



    I picked up my mukluk today, and my LBS told me that they were specifically designed to fit the bike. From the Salsa website:

    "Wanderlust rear rack - These are finished and are in transit. They will arrive around December 1st.

    Minimalist rack - These have finally fully passed our CEN testing and are in production. Anticipated arrival to our world headquarters will be around Christmas time. Expect them in stock at our distributor around Jan 1st."


    EDIT: It turns out that the Wanderlust does NOT fit the bike, but the Minimalist might. Read posts below....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbasinger
    I'm sure that will work, but it is sitting really high and there is a lot of extra stuff down there with the dropout extensions. OMM makes a separate extension just for something like this.
    Designed to mount to the frame but will give you another inch or 2 of length. If you have the tools and time you could cut down the dropout extensions you have to fit.
    I'm also sending the pics to OMM to see what they say. They don't show any alternate extensions as part of their rack mounting kits on their web site ( http://www.oldmanmountain.com/Mercha...tegory_Code=MH ) but maybe they have custom stuff that's not listed or that can be made to order.

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    Just got a OMM rack that is specific to the Mukluk. I think it was originally made for the Pugsley, but they sent it to me with non-offset hdwr. I took some measurements, and it looks like it will fit just fine. Should have my bike by this weekend, so I'll post an update once I get it mounted.
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    My LBS ordered a Delta Disc rack and said it should fit great.If it does not work they will just keep it in inventory.

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    My OMM came with different brackets. Maybe these brackets would move the rack down and more forward so that it would be closer to the frame braze-ons.

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    Not sure if this one will fit but it looks cool.

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    I got this AXIOM one at my LBS, pretty basic, pretty cheap, I like that it went on without alot of BS, had to use an AXIOM seatpost clamp to attach the front mounts to and had to shorten the arms of the front mount, a 5 minute job.


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    A bit off topic,
    I was playing around with one of those Anything Cages and it is awesome, im going to put two on mine, and it is def going to open up some options on carrying things.

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    What diameter tubing are most companies using? It may be a fun winter project to weld up a set of custom ones for myself. Maybe one designed to hold a 12 pack up front.

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    Delta disc rack.

    I got the Delta rack today and it fit great with only minor bending of the tubes and upper front arms.Then I took a pair of Topeak cheapie fenders and made them fit by aluminum rivets and a little trimming.I was getting tired of slush and slop flying all over.Mukluk Rear Rack-img_0939.jpg

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    Fixed up now with some new hardware from OMM. Much better!
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    Tobie at North Central Cyclery contacted me a few days ago about the Wanderlust Rack coming in shortly. Looks like that is the one to get for hauling big loads.

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    Just a FYI but the Wanderlust does not fit on the Mukluk, tried unsuccessfully today

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkoskinen
    Just a FYI but the Wanderlust does not fit on the Mukluk, tried unsuccessfully today

    BUMMER! Who dropped the ball on that one?

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    I don't know, kinda of amazing that their new rack doesn't fit on the new bike. Wonder which rack they have on the Mukluk on the website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancelot
    BUMMER! Who dropped the ball on that one?
    Ha! Nobody......

    The Wanderlust wasn't designed to fit a snowbike, it was designed with our Fargo and Vaya in mind primarily. If it was able to fit the Mukluk, it would have been too bulky for our other bikes.

    As of this time, there is no rack that will fit any snowbike without modification. We included mounts for racks on the Mukluk because we know that people are resourceful, and if they want a rack, they will find a way. They are also on the bike with the future in mind.

    The Enabler fork on the Mukluk will accept our Anything Cages, water bottle cages, as well as hoop-less lowrider pannier racks (like our DownUnder rack) or the Surly Front Rack. I know that in my personal experience, I prefer to load the front on a snowbike in order to try and create a better weight balance between the front and rear wheels, since most of your body weight is on the rear wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    Ha! Nobody......

    The Wanderlust wasn't designed to fit a snowbike, it was designed with our Fargo and Vaya in mind primarily. If it was able to fit the Mukluk, it would have been too bulky for our other bikes.

    As of this time, there is no rack that will fit any snowbike without modification. We included mounts for racks on the Mukluk because we know that people are resourceful, and if they want a rack, they will find a way. They are also on the bike with the future in mind.

    The Enabler fork on the Mukluk will accept our Anything Cages, water bottle cages, as well as hoop-less lowrider pannier racks (like our DownUnder rack) or the Surly Front Rack. I know that in my personal experience, I prefer to load the front on a snowbike in order to try and create a better weight balance between the front and rear wheels, since most of your body weight is on the rear wheel.

    Is the "Minimalist Rack" designed to fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    As of this time, there is no Salsa rack that will fit any Mukluk snowbike without modification.
    There - I fixed that for ya.

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    I guess it will fit the Enabler though which is where I wanted to put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    ......

    As of this time, there is no rack that will fit any snowbike without modification. .....

    That is completely false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach
    That is completely false.

    You left out the word "Salsa"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancelot
    Is the "Minimalist Rack" designed to fit?
    The Minimalist will fit the front Enabler, and it will also fit the rear using the Rack Lock seatpost collar, similar to the setup shown on this Fargo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    The Minimalist will fit the front Enabler, and it will also fit the rear using the Rack Lock seatpost collar, similar to the setup shown on this Fargo.

    Exactly what I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkoskinen
    Just a FYI but the Wanderlust does not fit on the Mukluk, tried unsuccessfully today
    Shoot! I hope I didn't cause you to buy that rack based on my earlier post! I SWEAR my LBS told me that it was specifically designed to fit the Mukluk.

    I ordered a Nitto "Top Rack," from Rivendell, because it's light and because it looks like it will be easy to modify to fit by bending the stays. It's sort of like the Salsa Minimalist rack: It won't carry paniers, but should carry a small top-load nicely, which is all I'm likely to need - especially if its paired with some everything cages on the fork. (Both will be the same finish, too - if you care about color coordinating utility items.)

    I'll provide an update when it gets here, to let you know how it goes.

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    nitto top rack installed

    I got my Rivendell/Nitto rear rack installed. Here's a snapshot as promised.

    It went together pretty easy - required one quick bend at each of the top stays, and one quick hack-saw cut and file to shorten each of the vertical stays. By flipping the hardware for the vertical stays to the outside, instead of the inside as was intended, they were far enough apart to accommodate the wide frame spacing without needing to be bent.

    This is a large size frame, for reference.

    At risk of sounding like a company advertisement, also visible are the Rivendell/MKS pedals, with pedal spikes installed, that I bought at the same time. Haven't used them yet, but they're pretty cool. Relatively inexpensive, light, and look like they'll shed snow easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    As of this time, there is no rack that will fit any snowbike without modification.
    I have to disagree. The OMM Cold Springs fits with absolutely no modification, bending, spreading...it fits like a glove. Easiest rack I have ever installed on a bike. I have to give the OMM guys props. Their mounting system allows for a wide array of widths at the bike's lower mounts. Works very well, in my opinion.
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    I had a chance to check 4 more racks today. I plan to get to more in the near future.

    Jannd Standard - RK2551
    Civia Cafe - RK5402 (silver - RK2403)
    * These two racks need to be gently "opened up" to fit the rear end width. It doesn't take much.

    Planet Bike Versa - RK4004
    * This rack is wide enough that it does not require any bending.

    Civia Market - RK2400 (silver - RK2401)
    * This rack is also needs to be "opened up" to fit, but much less than the above two.
    * The bottom loop has about 5mm of clearance to a BB7 caliper. Other brakes may vary.

    Below are fitting options broken down by frame size. Minimum saddle height is approximately 60cm before contact with the deck may occur, and holds pretty much true for each rack as deck heights are fairly similar. Please keep in mind "opening up" racks may void their warranty.

    Small Mukluk frame (15in S/T)
    1. Salsa Rack-Lock + Jandd Standard rack + Dimension XL mounting straps (ST8306 + RK2551 + RK1102).
    * Use the Dimension straps in place of stock straps and mount to the Salsa Rack-Lock collar.
    * Mounting to S/S bosses is not possible as the straps aren't long enough.

    2. Substitute Civia Cafe rack in #1 above.
    * Same notes apply

    3. Salsa Rack-Lock + Planet Bike Versa rack. (ST8306 + RK4004)
    * The rack comes with stand-offs and long M5 bolts. Don't use these.
    * You will need two extra M5 bolts (about the same length found on your bottle cages) instead of the long bolts
    * Mount S/S struts to Salsa Rack-Lock. Struts are not long enough to reach S/S bosses.
    * Rack deck will pitch forward 8 degrees from level when mounted to the Rack-Lock and with the vertical struts set in the lowest setting.
    * If you drill new mounting holes in the vertical struts, you can lower the vertical struts 3/4" and get the deck down to 6 degrees.

    4. Civia Market Rack (RK2401) - Currently does not fit.
    * The 8mm S/S struts need to be at least 310m, the ones that come with the rack are only 265mm.
    * QBP does not currently have 8mm struts available seperately, but once the Salsa Minimalist rack comes in stock, 370mm long replacement struts should follow shortly.
    * If you can source an alternative 8mm strut at least 310mm long, this rack will work right now.

    Medium Mukluk frame (17in S/T)
    1. Jandd Standard rack + Dimension XL mounting straps (RK2551 + RK1102).
    * Use the Dimension straps in place of the stock straps and mount directly to the S/S bosses.

    2. Salsa Rack-Lock + Jandd Standard rack (ST8306 + RK2551).
    * Use the stock straps and mount to the Salsa Rack-Lock.
    * Stock straps are not long enough to reach the S/S bosses.

    3. Substitute Civia Cafe rack in #1 above

    4. Substitute Civia Cafe rack in #2 above

    5. Salsa Rack-Lock + Planet Bike Versa rack (ST8306 + RK2551)
    * The rack comes with stand-offs and long M5 bolts. Don't use these.
    * You will need two extra M5 bolts (about the same length found on your bottle cages)
    * Mount S/S struts to Salsa Rack-Lock.

    6. Planet Bike Versa rack (RK2551)
    * The rack comes with stand-offs and long M5 bolts. Don't use these.
    * You will need two extra M5 bolts (about the same length found on your bottle cages)
    * Rack deck will pitch forward 5 degrees from level when mounted to the S/S bosses with the vertical struts set in the lowest setting.
    * If you drill new mounting holes in the vertical struts, you can lower the vertical struts 3/4" and get the deck down to 3 degrees.

    7. Civia Market rack (RK2400)
    * Stock struts (265mm) will result in a 5degree forward tilt of the deck.
    * Salsa Rack-Lock should give a degree or two less tilt, but I did not check this configuration.

    Large and X-Large Mukluk frames (19in S/T & 21 S/t respectively)
    1. Jandd Standard rack
    * Standard struts mounted to S/S bosses, level deck, no problem.

    2. Civia Cafe rack
    * Standard struts mounted to S/S bosses, level deck, no problem.

    3. Planet Bike Versa rack
    * The rack comes with stand-offs and long M5 bolts. Don't use these.
    * You will need two extra M5 bolts (about the same length found on your bottle cages)
    * Struts mount to S/S bosses, level deck, no problems.

    4. Civia Market rack
    * Stock struts mount to S/S bosses, level deck, no problem.

    I did not have the resources to check fit on the X-Small Mukluk frame (13in S/T). The Civia Market rack will fit with longer than stock struts, similar to the Small frame, but getting these longer struts is the current challenge. I can't say either way for any of the other racks at this time on this tiny-sized frame.

    This a quick 15minute fly by, sorry the lack of pictures and detail. I know there are people out there with Muks' right now looking for options, and I wanted to get you something to chew on over the holiday break. Look for a much more detailed and photo filled Mukluk + Rack series of posts on the Salsa blog sometime after the holiday break. Happy Holi-daze!

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    Racktime racks?

    Anybody ever use Racktime racks?

    More important, will they fit on a Med Mukluk?

    OT- how well do Woody's fenders handle mud and dirt riding?

    Thanks

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    Take a Topeak disc mount rack, saw off the boss extensions, perfect fit. I recommend the super tourist, it lets you hang the bags lower.

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    Here's a medium Mukluk using the Planet Bike Versa with Salsa rack-lock. Nothing had to be bent.

    I would have liked to use the seatstay bosses, but that won't happen without some sort of mod to extend the seatstay arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seth586
    Take a Topeak disc mount rack, saw off the boss extensions, perfect fit. I recommend the super tourist, it lets you hang the bags lower.
    This was on a FatBack, not a Mukluk, but I started with a Bontrager Back Rack Classic L:


    I cut 1/2" off the end of each "L" piece - but used the cut section as a spacer on the upper seatstay eyelets. The longest chrome straps that came with the rack were just exactly long enough, with the spacers and with the ht adjustments all the way down, to allow the rack to sit level. I did have to get some different bolts (shorter for the cut section, longer for the spacers).
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Civia Market Rack

    The Civia Market rack fits the Mukluk perfectly. It's close to the rear brake but works fine.
    You do need to spread the bottom slightly but it's easy. The bolts come with Loctite on them too.

    Civia is owned by Quality Bicycle Products who also own Salsa & Pugsley.

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    Civia Market Rack-picture

    Here's a pic:
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    They have a front rack solution too right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by triathletejack View Post
    The Civia Market rack fits the Mukluk perfectly. It's close to the rear brake but works fine.
    You do need to spread the bottom slightly but it's easy. The bolts come with Loctite on them too.

    Civia is owned by Quality Bicycle Products who also own Salsa & Pugsley.
    Quick question, getting ready to order one of these. I assume you bought the 700c version of this rack and not the 26" version?

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    I think there is only one size; here's the info.
    Civia Rear Rack, part # RK2400, barcode # 7-08752-04663-4
    Civia is a bicycle line from Quality Bicycle Products (QBP) that also own Surly and Salsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbasinger View Post
    Here is a not very good picture of the same rack mounted on my Fat Back as described above. Notice how it's just mounted directly on without the use of the dropout mounting extensions.
    I have the rack stays mounted on the top plate of my rack because that's where they worked on another bike of mine, but they'd work fine mounted from the side with those thick OMM rack stays and from the looks of your frame I'd guess it'd be the same.
    Is that a TUBUS rack?

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    i played around with a few racks and our Mukluks today, and i found a Bontrager rack that fit rather nicely, we had to spread the bottom a bit, but not too much that i was uncomfortable with it, and it did not need a seat collar rack adaptor. Looks clean, i think i might use one on my own Mukluk.
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    Good to know! Which model of Bontrager rack is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubjay View Post
    Here's a medium Mukluk using the Planet Bike Versa with Salsa rack-lock. Nothing had to be bent.

    I would have liked to use the seatstay bosses, but that won't happen without some sort of mod to extend the seatstay arms.
    FYI- just bought the Planet Bike "Versa Disc Rear Aluminum Rack", like the picture in the post above from Dubjay. I have a large Mukluk. It mounted in less than 5 minutes and required no tweaking for the lower seat-stay mounts. The upper seat stay mounts required a quick bend by hand, and I made a little tweak with a crescent wrench to tow the rack ends in for a better fit. That was it.
    Generally speaking, an extremely good fit. This whole post is very confusing with all of the options, but I can attest to the fact that this model is as close as Plug-and-Play as any rack is ever going to be, even on a normal touring bike. Good brake clearance too.
    Another note; I tried mounting my (Jandd) panniers, and didn't get the greatest fit right off. Not sure if this rack is going to be the best for panniers. If that Civia posted above fits as well as they say, that may be a better pannier option.

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    FYI- I looked at this rack at the LBS. It measures about 145mm at the bottom seat stay mounts. The Mukluk measures about 210mm. That's almost 2.5 inches that you would have to spread the rack apart. Though I agree that you were able to make this installation look good on the bike, people may want more of a ready-to-install solution like the Planet Bike Versa Rack Disc. (Per previous post; just installed this Planet Bike rack and it fit with minimal tweaks).

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    I just got a new hardware kit from OMM to make a Cold Springs rack work that we had in stock at our shop in MI. It worked perfect...... but those racks are a little $$$$ so I also found that a Blackburn Ex-1 disk rack will work great if you cut the disk spacers off and mount it to the rack mounts on a Mukluk.... the spacing on this rack (without the disk spacers is almost exactly wide enough to fit with barely any spreading needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangoman View Post
    Good to know! Which model of Bontrager rack is this?
    It's the Bontrager BackRack II. I have that rack on my North Central Cyclery Mukluk 2, as well...



    It is level; just looks tipped in the pic because of the bike's angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker_47 View Post
    I have to disagree. The OMM Cold Springs fits with absolutely no modification, bending, spreading...it fits like a glove. Easiest rack I have ever installed on a bike. I have to give the OMM guys props. Their mounting system allows for a wide array of widths at the bike's lower mounts. Works very well, in my opinion.


    +1 - The OMM design is very versatile and they'll provide different mounting hardware for special applications if you give them a call and ask. My oldest OMM rack is going 10yrs+ old and is good for another 10yrs. It's good to know that a rack that will last such a long time will fit any bike I may want to put it on.

    My buddy didn't want to spend the $$$ for an OMM rack when we built up his Pugs. After one trip where his rack failed he bought two OMM racks and he's been trucking along just fine.
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    FYI The newest model of the Bontrager BackRack L also fits on the Mukluk 2 (with some bending, but not much). Also sits flat, angle of the picture is skewed. I wanted to buy the BackRack II since Lawfarm and H.O.M. proved that they fit. But LBS only has the newest version. Built in mini fender on top, sure why not! $39.99 is what I paid.






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    The Old Man Mountain racks are awesome. I contacted John on Tuesday and had the rack by Friday. It mounted super easy. I have another OMM rack on my Fargo that I have been using for years and it is bomber. (Thanks to another thread for the fender idea!)


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    has anyone tried a Portland Design Works payload rack with success ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Larsen_Wolf View Post
    FYI- I looked at this rack at the LBS. It measures about 145mm at the bottom seat stay mounts. The Mukluk measures about 210mm. That's almost 2.5 inches that you would have to spread the rack apart. Though I agree that you were able to make this installation look good on the bike, people may want more of a ready-to-install solution like the Planet Bike Versa Rack Disc. (Per previous post; just installed this Planet Bike rack and it fit with minimal tweaks).
    I think that is the one I just picked up on the weekend. It's wide enough and has no clearance issues at the bottom mount points, but the stays which hinge forward were too short. I unbolted them and just fashioned a new mono stay out of flat aluminum bar stock to bolt up to the fender eyelet on the seatstay cross brace. I just need to pick up bolt for that. I'll post up picks later but it's a clean fit. My Mukluk is a 15".

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    Tubus racks

    Tubus Logo Classic (26") works well in rear, almost horizontal on top with struts fully extended. Struts are slightly curved and have minor torsion due to the wide spacing of the Mukluk frame attachments .

    Tubus Ergo (26") in front does not fit as the curve radius is too small to clear the tire, otherwise (i.e. with modification) it looks like it would.
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    Is that the tall version or the short?

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    I really like your setup..Can you post a closer picture of the rack/fender combination?

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    One of the nicest things about the OMM racks is that their Cold Springs models are the widest and have the most clearance between the stays of any rack I've seen. The Cold Springs front rack is the widest of them all at 6+ inches between the stays. I just bought another Cold Springs front rack to mount on the rear of my Pugs to get that maximum clearance. It will take a little fiddling to get the mounting just right but as others have said the set up on these racks is so versatile it won't take much. I learned how important this clearance is the hard way this summer. I had so much mud packed around a narrower rack that the wheel wouldn't turn. Unfortunately I don't have a clear photo of the rack on this computer. The racks shown below are the Cold Springs front rack on the front and the OMM Sherpa on the back. The Sherpa is much narrower than the Cold Springs and was the muddy offender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterlime View Post
    FYI The newest model of the Bontrager BackRack L also fits on the Mukluk 2 (with some bending, but not much). Also sits flat, angle of the picture is skewed. I wanted to buy the BackRack II since Lawfarm and H.O.M. proved that they fit. But LBS only has the newest version. Built in mini fender on top, sure why not! $39.99 is what I paid.





    Awesome! Just picked up the same rack after seeing your photos. I like the Bontrager racks, due to the interchange system. Plus I like the way you can mount lights to it as well.
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    I too have a Bontrager rack from Hand of Midas.

    The problem I'm foreseeing having is accommodating fenders and the rear rack at the same time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jddjirikian View Post
    I too have a Bontrager rack from Hand of Midas.

    The problem I'm foreseeing having is accommodating fenders and the rear rack at the same time!
    I have no problems using the SKS Grand M.O.M. with a Bonty rack. I'll post some pictures. The only, slight, problem is using a Bonty interchange bag with the rack. There'barely enough room from the rack and the seat. I can squeeze the bag there, but I know there's no way for me to really stuff the bag.
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    Using a Bonty BackRack Deluxe L Rear rack and SKS Grand M.O.M.


    I know, the rack needs adjustment. Rack looked level when I put it on at 2am the other night. First time really look at it in the daytime.
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    This worked well. Transit rack is $25 from Performance. I did lower the rack about an inch by drilling a new hole in the side supports.

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    Many thanks to those that recommended the Bontrager rack - picked one up a few hours ago and couldn't resist fitting it as soon as I got home. Found that the struts attach to the rack as suggested in the destructions with only minor 'tweaking'!

    Can't post the photo I took as you need to have a post count of at least ten before you're allowed to post links or images!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangledfeet View Post
    Many thanks to those that recommended the Bontrager rack - picked one up a few hours ago and couldn't resist fitting it as soon as I got home. Found that the struts attach to the rack as suggested in the destructions with only minor 'tweaking'!

    Can't post the photo I took as you need to have a post count of at least ten before you're allowed to post links or images!
    Glad it worked out for you!

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    ecub, I like the light on your rack! I wasn't sure how or what to use all of those holes with on the Bonty rack. I'm often riding home at night from the trails, but I don't always have the rack on my bike. The holes are also good for securing bungee chords when trying to tie down a rubbermaid container full of beer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterlime View Post
    ecub, I like the light on your rack! I wasn't sure how or what to use all of those holes with on the Bonty rack. I'm often riding home at night from the trails, but I don't always have the rack on my bike. The holes are also good for securing bungee chords when trying to tie down a rubbermaid container full of beer!
    Thanks. The light I used is a Cateye TL-LD650. I had to buy the Bracket Rear Rack Mount to mount it on the rack, which easily clips in. The light comes with a Flexible seat clamp, which I keep mounted onto the seat post, so if I wanted to remove the rack, I can easily remove the light from the rack and move it onto the seat clamp.
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    The Planet Bike Versarack disc fits a medium Mukluk with some mods. I used 1/8 x 1" aluminum flat bar to extend the upper seat stay mount and drilled an extra hole 20mm higher on the lower seat stay mounts to level it out.



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    Mukluk: Topeak Super Tourist in the rear; Old Man Mountain Cold Springs in the front. I have narrow tires but fat ones would fit easily under these racks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon View Post

    The Wanderlust wasn't designed to fit a snowbike...

    We included mounts for racks on the Mukluk because we know that people are resourceful, and if they want a rack, they will find a way. They are also on the bike with the future in mind.
    So can you give us a hint as to whether or not something is in the works from Salsa that will work on Mukluks? If your taking requests for ideas, a built in fender would be nice.

    I've been looking for a while now and haven't been completely satisfied with what is out there for rear rack options on my Muk2. If there is nothing in the works I guess I'll go with a Bonty Back Rack...

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    I have a salsa mukluk 3 on order and did not realize there were not many affordable front racks available that can handle any weight. I also see the salsa minimalist rack has recall notice (I don't think it would have fit my needs anyhow). I plan on doing some bikerafting so I am not sure how a front rack would fit while transporting on a raft anyhow. I am posting in this thread because it has the most mukluk rack info that I have found. Has anyone found a cheaper alternative to OMM and Atrain cycles front racks? or an adapter for the enabler fork for other racks? I will probably go with a Bontager rack for the rear. thanks

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    The Civia Market rack fits the Mukluk perfectly. It's close to the rear brake but works fine.
    You do need to spread the bottom slightly but it's easy. The bolts come with Loctite on them too.

    Civia is owned by Quality Bicycle Products who also own Salsa & Pugsley. Every bike shop has a QBP catalog

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    CaN anyone reccomennd a rack for a 9Zero7??

    Will that Bonty one fit as that looks really, really nice..

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    don't know about the 907 but the topeak 29er disc rack fits level on a muk 3 if you get the longer brackets for the front otherwise its level with just 1 bolt in each on the front
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    Look at the Relevate handlebar bag. I find allot of weight up front to be a real physical effort to maintain steering in some snow conditions.

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    Thanks for the Relevate idea, I will look into it. I do have a Racktime TourIt Rear Bike Rack that I will try on the mukluk once I get the bike. I suspect it wont fit because the description says 28" is the limit. I really want a black rear rack that has a solid plate that will act like a fender, has no manufacturer's name printed on the plate, is inexpensive, and will hold any type of panniers. I was leaning to the Bontager BackRack Deluxe L Rear rack but realized it was just bars on top instead of a plate. I like the style of the regular BackRack L Rear rack, just want panniers bars too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by votg View Post
    Thanks for the Relevate idea, I will look into it. I do have a Racktime TourIt Rear Bike Rack that I will try on the mukluk once I get the bike. I suspect it wont fit because the description says 28" is the limit. I really want a black rear rack that has a solid plate that will act like a fender, has no manufacturer's name printed on the plate, is inexpensive, and will hold any type of panniers. I was leaning to the Bontager BackRack Deluxe L Rear rack but realized it was just bars on top instead of a plate. I like the style of the regular BackRack L Rear rack, just want panniers bars too.
    I got the BackRack L for my Muk2 in part because it fit and also because of the fender-like plate built into it. I have since tested it in rain/light mud and can report that it will keep the big stuff off of you but it won't stop all of the splattering that is inevitable when riding in wet sloppy conditions. If you don't mind getting your rear end a little wet and mud-splattered, it will work fine as a fender. If you need complete protection, maybe you could fit a full fender under the rack like others have done. Or maybe there is another rack out there that has a full plate built in that will fit a fattie. I'm hoping that Salsa releases one here in the next month or so.
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    " width="549">

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    Here's a couple pic's of the topeak has a plate for a fender and their bags just slide onto the plate and latch to the front with a plastic clip which i think is nice.seems to be a good rack!
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    Thanks for the BackRack update Chromehorn and for the pics of the topeak t0pcat. Does the topeak take proprietary bags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teetosugars View Post
    CaN anyone reccomennd a rack for a 9Zero7??

    Will that Bonty one fit as that looks really, really nice..
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    Quote Originally Posted by krands View Post
    This worked well. Transit rack is $25 from Performance. I did lower the rack about an inch by drilling a new hole in the side supports.

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    I have that same rack! haven't figured out how to mount it to my pugsley.. The muk and pugsley have similar mounting geometry for the rear rack correct?

    With the transit rack, I find the front steel bars are positioned much more close together than the braze-ons. Did you have to bend the crap out of them to attach to the braze ons?

    Also what kind of spacers did you use to center the rack? Thanks.

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    Good job!

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    I am very intrigued by this Bontrager BackRack L, I will get one for my Pugs
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    Great shout Motorman.. Will order one tomorrow..
    Where's the frame bag from fella?

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    The bag from here

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    Now fitted to bike like this





    Fits real nice for a $15 bag

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    Great stuff!!

    I've just picked up a 9 zero7 so keen to see what all the fuss is about...

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    I mounted a used Jandd Mountaineering Expedition Rear Rack on my medium Mukluk using Dimension X-Long Rear Mounting Kits Seat Stay Mount with minimal bending. I will post pics soon. I also mounted Sunlite Gold Tec Front Rack using mounting straps from the Jandd. Unfortunately, while I was lifting the bike over a fence with a small cooler with water strapped to the front rack, one of the side straps and the center strap bent. I had to bend the straps a lot to begin with to get it to work, from the back of the fork to the front. So i am still look for a front rack for the enabler fork with a solid plate.

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    I just go the Salsa Alternator Rack Wide for my 2012 Mukluk. It fits perfectly and doesn't have the fits-everything-with-adapters look of the OMM alternative (which otherwise should be fine). It was easy to mount and and doesn't sit (much) too high.





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    Anyone install a rack that is not the Alternator wide on the 2013 Muks with rear alt drop out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider View Post
    I just go the Salsa Alternator Rack Wide for my 2012 Mukluk. It fits perfectly and doesn't have the fits-everything-with-adapters look of the OMM alternative (which otherwise should be fine). It was easy to mount and and doesn't sit (much) too high.
    I have the Salsa Alternator Wide Rack on my Mukluk as well. However with this rack, I can't find a way to use rear fenders, i.e. Dave's Mud Shovels. Any recs? Do most of you just not have rear fenders and deal with the spray when it gets wet out there?

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