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    Mukluk II...mandatory upgrades?

    Can't afford a bear grease, gonna go with a new one of these. Looking to lighten it up reasonably, what parts are piggy on this rig?
    Wheels?
    fork?
    Specific components?
    What am I looking at to get this into 'fighting weight' without breaking the bank?
    Thanks!
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    Re: Mukluk II...mandatory upgrades?

    Before you know it, the total money spent will be close to what a beargrease costs.

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    Pretty much precisely my point.
    But I can hide incremental purchases from my (CPA) wifey, but not the 'one time' purchases....capiche?
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    Go tubeless. Fatbike tubes are heavy and you'll have less rolling resistance. You won't have to worry about pinch flats a low pressures and it's a cheap upgrade.

    I converted my 2014 Mukluk 3 shortly after I got it and it was a very noticeable improvement. I've had zero issues so far.

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    Yeah, that will happen regardless.
    Question I whether to ditch a bunch of stuff on ebay/classifieds while they are brand new, and if so, what.
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    I was in the same boat, I got a Mukluk 2 because I can use a rear rack for hunting & what ever else I want the rack for. I'm also a bit of a WW. I can put a carbon fork on this bike later with a 15mm axle & I'm going to build a wheel set. 1. when I get the money 2. when we have more wheels offered for going tubeless and change the rear over to 12x177.. I love the new beargrease but even with that bike I would have been building a lighter wheel set. When I got my bike I had the shop put lighter tubes in it and I changed the HB to a carbon Salsa riser pro moto I already had, my bike is a large 31.62lbs. My first 24 hour solo race bike was 35 pounds. Either way both bikes are going to be loads of fun.

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    ummm... why?

    My first reaction is ride it, rideit. This is a fatbike afterall. How much of a WW are you? Are you racing? Based on how long you've been around mtbr, I'm betting you already know exactly what you feel you "need" to upgrade on the Muk 2 to enjoy your new bike. The stock Muk 2 is a nice riding bike that weighs in in the low 30s (L), which ain't bad. The fork is fairly light. Go tubeless, 1x9, and you ought to be within spitting distance weightwise of the BG.

    If go fast is your thing, you'll be stabling the Muk for a lighter more nimble rig when the snow is gone anyway. If it's bling bragging rights you're after, you'll get none with a vanilla Muk with all the tutti frutti ti and carbon offerings now on the market. Save your limited parts budget for your racier rigs, I'd say.
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    No, it's the age old shop guy conundrum...if I ride the parts, I'll get MUCH less in resale value that I could apply towards parts at cost. So from an economic standpoint, the time to decide is now...hope that makes sense.
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    Syntace Carbon post, carbon bars, syntace stem 1x10, tubeless. Fork is fine. SLX brakes, XT drivetrain.
    My 2 cents...

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    Can't tell what you are recommending ditching or adding!
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    Mukluk II...mandatory upgrades?

    I have two different theories of my own. Bought a Alu fatback for 2500 and a carbon 9zero7 for 4200. with the upgrades I put on the fatback, the price surpasses what I paid for the carbon bike and I really haven't done squat to that bike! I love both bikes btw. It's kind of like having a crush on two separate girls. Anyway, here's what I did to the fatback..
    Carver carbon fork $300
    X01 drivetrain $900
    Salsa promoto carbon bar $150
    Origin8 carbon seatpost $80
    Brooks Professional saddle $180
    45NRTH Helva pedals $160
    Point 1 90mm stem $120
    Wolftooth narrow/wide $70
    45NRTH Dillingers $300
    The list goes on! I love both bikes but it was fun to watch the fatback take shape, whilst the 9zero7 was good to go from the get!!!
    My first bike was the first gen muk btw.

    As it sits now..
    two wheel livin'..

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    ride it, your a shop guy? the parts i listed do not come on a Muk. get the QBP order going my friend.

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    Tube choice or tubeless then Carver carbon fork, will lighten the bike up quite a bit for minimal $$$.
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    2014 Mukluk 2 | Bikes | Salsa Cycles

    Just looked at the specs, next would be hydro XT's or similar... those BB7's with stock rotors are a bit on the hefty side.

    Its easy to drop a few pounds initially, its the next few that call on the big bucks !
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    This….
    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Tube choice or tubeless then Carver carbon fork, will lighten the bike up quite a bit for minimal $$$.
    and this….

    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    2014 Mukluk 2 | Bikes | Salsa Cycles

    Just looked at the specs, next would be hydro XT's or similar... those BB7's with stock rotors are a bit on the hefty side.

    Its easy to drop a few pounds initially, its the next few that call on the big bucks !
    and new stem, carbon bars,ESI grips, carbon seat post, and 1 X 10 using a Race Face narrow wide chain ring (no chain keeper req'd).
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    I was just in the same boat. I had a reall pimped out Pug with a super nice parts build and sold it to buy a stock Muk 2. I kept my saddle, stem, bars from my Pug. All of the parts on the new Muk 2 are actually pretty damn nice..except for he X7 shifters. Mine kept locking up and not shifting. I had my LBS swap them for XO grip shifts. The X9 clutch rear der is way smoother than my old XT. I was surprised that the Surly OD cranks shifter WAY smoother than my old E13s. It comes with a Thomson post. BB7's are my choice for fatbikes anyway. The wheels already have Rolling D's and DT spokes and the Salsa hubs actually spin pretty smooth. I was not too concerned about weight because I wanted Bud and Lous on there...and they fit perfect. So, what Im saying is for me, I changed up the cockpit and shifters and that was it. This is coming for a guy that only did my own custom builds prior to buying this stock bike and I woudn't change much!

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    Bb7's?
    Fvck that.
    Gotta start shopping.
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    So you work in a shop but didn't know the Muk 2 came stock with BB7s, the most ubiquitous fatbike brake on the market. Unlikey. As I suspected, you already have a build in mind, you just want a forum for questioning/debating our suggestions.

    Without a stated purpose for your build, there are no MANDATORY upgrades for the Muk 2. It's a great mid-priced, all around fatbike as is. Any upgrades should be based on your preferences and purpose, which you have not shared.

    Why don't you build your bike, post some pics and surprise us with your creativity?

    Not trying to be a jerk, but your post and responses border on trolling.
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    Honestly, I haven't even looked at the specs. I am getting one at cost due to professional reasons...I owned a shop for a decade, but don't anymore. I am just speculating without a QBP catalog right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Honestly, I haven't even looked at the specs. I am getting one at cost due to professional reasons...I owned a shop for a decade, but don't anymore. I am just speculating without a QBP catalog right now.
    Maybe someone could post a link to the build specs for you. I would sell everything and then start with this:

    Fork Salsa Bearpaw Aluminum
    Front Der SRAM X.7 HDM
    Reart Der SRAM X.9 10-Speed
    Cassette SRAM PG-1030 11-36t
    Chain KMC X10
    Crankset Surly OD Crank, 22/36t
    Headset Cane Creek 40 ZS44
    Stem Salsa Guide Stem
    Handlebar Salsa Salt Flat, 11-degree, 700mm
    Grips Salsa Backcountry Lock-On
    Shifter SRAM X.7 Triggers
    Brakes Avid BB7S
    Brake Lever Avid SD7
    Rotors 160mm Front/160mm Rear
    Seatpost Truvativ T20
    Saddle WTB
    Front Hub New Salsa Front Hub, 10 x 135mm, 32h
    Rear Hub Salsa Mukluk 2, 32h
    Spokes DT Swiss Competition
    Rims Surly Holy Rolling Darryl
    Tires Surly Nate 26 x 3.8", 120tpi

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    You still haven't told us what you want to do with this bike.

    Race?
    Expedition?
    Only bike or one of many?
    Year- round or winter specific?
    Bragging rights at the trailhead or coffee house?

    I can tell you why I built my Muk the way I did, but I cant tell you how to build yours without knowing more? And you ought to at least Google the specs of the bike you already bought, haven't ridden, and already want to upgrade. Common sense, no? I bet you used to hate customers like you when you were in the bike business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welnic View Post
    Maybe someone could post a link to the build specs for you. I would sell everything and then start with this:

    Fork Salsa Bearpaw Aluminum
    Front Der SRAM X.7 HDM
    Reart Der SRAM X.9 10-Speed
    Cassette SRAM PG-1030 11-36t
    Chain KMC X10
    Crankset Surly OD Crank, 22/36t
    Headset Cane Creek 40 ZS44
    Stem Salsa Guide Stem
    Handlebar Salsa Salt Flat, 11-degree, 700mm
    Grips Salsa Backcountry Lock-On
    Shifter SRAM X.7 Triggers
    Brakes Avid BB7S
    Brake Lever Avid SD7
    Rotors 160mm Front/160mm Rear
    Seatpost Truvativ T20
    Saddle WTB
    Front Hub New Salsa Front Hub, 10 x 135mm, 32h
    Rear Hub Salsa Mukluk 2, 32h
    Spokes DT Swiss Competition
    Rims Surly Holy Rolling Darryl
    Tires Surly Nate 26 x 3.8", 120tpi
    I agree. Rep to you welnic!
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    Got mine in Nov. I changed the saddle immediately. And after a couple of rides I had to get rid of those brakes. Swap them out with some older Ultimates. Still haven't spent the time to go tubeless. Nothing else really planned after that. Just enjoying the heck of the bike.

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    Mandatory upgrades? C'mon dude, just ride the thing and replace stuff when you break it or hate it. Nothing is mandatory other than you getting a fattie.

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    See the above economic rationale.
    I imagine the value of used fat bike stuff is...minuscule.
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