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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWrestlingII View Post
    Iím looking into purchasing a Sturgis Bullet and see there are new 2015 models available for $300 less than the 2018 model. It looks like the 2018 model has upgraded rims/tires and is 1x11. For those in the know, what is your opinion on spending the extra $$$ for the newer model?

    Also, what size would you recommend for 6í with a 32Ē inseam? This bike will be used for all seasons in MN, 95% river bottoms trail riding.

    AndÖ any other bikes you would buy over the Sturgis Bullet in the same price range?

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    At 6' tall, you are right on a large. I'm 6'3" and I just fit on it. I would not want the XL.
    1x11 doesn't impress me. I've never had an issue with any front derailleur ever.

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    Sturgis NX Stack and Reach

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    2. What's the reach of this frame. I ride a medium 17.5 inch. Mine came with a 80mm stem and seems spot on.
    I did a bit of size comparison with my Jamis XAM I mountain bike that I have been comfortably riding for many years. (Nearly Identical to the Medium Sturgis)

    I calculated the 17.5" Sturgis NX to have the following ...
    Stack = 563.4mm
    Reach = 433mm

    You can see that I am off a little because the actual top tube is 1.3mm long in my drawing. That is due to the lack of details around the standard fork length and offset. (and my impatience fixing such a small error.)

    The Reach and Stack will be effected by the Bluto which I believe is longer and more slack.

    There is also a website that actually gave me the idea to create the drawing. Stack and reach calculator I had trouble gaining confidence in the website due to the few dimensions missing from the Motobecane geometry data. This is what gave me the idea for my own sketch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey1970 View Post
    I did a bit of size comparison with my Jamis XAM I mountain bike that I have been comfortably riding for many years. (Nearly Identical to the Medium Sturgis)

    I calculated the 17.5" Sturgis NX to have the following ...
    Stack = 563.4mm
    Reach = 433mm

    You can see that I am off a little because the actual top tube is 1.3mm long in my drawing. That is due to the lack of details around the standard fork length and offset. (and my impatience fixing such a small error.)

    The Reach and Stack will be effected by the Bluto which I believe is longer and more slack.

    There is also a website that actually gave me the idea to create the drawing. Stack and reach calculator I had trouble gaining confidence in the website due to the few dimensions missing from the Motobecane geometry data. This is what gave me the idea for my own sketch.

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    Thanks! And interesting I figured reach was smaller since my bike came with a 80mm stem but also at its highest point on the steerer tube and I have a bluto. So figure it's around 410 +80 =490mm which sounds about right for a medium.

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    Hi. I've not ridden a rigid mountain bike since I first started 25 years ago...and I quickly upgraded to full suspension before I began riding technical stuff. Buying the night train bullet for snow pack, and jeep roads in all seasons to make that part of Colorado peakbagging more fun. Also plan to use in Fruita/Moab with wife who enjoys the tamer trails. Have been wavering between the Night Train ti super light build w/ carbon fork vs the ti 2x drive train build with Bluto. Appreciate any views.

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-hqfvxmq.jpg

    Finally ditched the Vee Rubber Snowshoes that came with my bike. I didn't loose much weight (if any) as my bike still comes in at 30.25 lbs ready to ride. However, my god does it handle better now. I can actually rail corners on this thing without fighting it to stay on line. I was running my snowshoes at 7f/8r PSI on hardpack and was getting a bit of self-steer. I ran these tires at the same PSI and there wasn't a single trace of self-steer. I think I'm gonna run 6f/7r next time out.
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    Finally ditched the Vee Rubber Snowshoes that came with my bike....
    Might be imgur, but I canít see your photo.

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    I can't see the image either. I just replaced the Snowshoes with Kenda Jauggernauts
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    Whoops, idk what's up with imgur. Sometimes it works really well, sometimes it won't show the photo despite the link being just fine.

    Anyways I went with the Jumbo Jim Snakeskin 4.0s. Seemed like it would be a good all around tire for my trails.

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    Has anyone swapped out the POS Novatec D202-SB 197/12 thru axle hub with a DT Swiss big ride 350 and been able to reuse the same spokes (Mulefut rim)? One spoke calc has the current spokes as laced Novatec/Mulefut if reused on the DT, the NDS spokes are approx 1.8mm short, and the drive side at 1mm long, but there's always play - and these measurement are pretty close.
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    Can someone with a large (19") Sturgis Bullet (with 120mm Bluto at no sag) get me an accurate wheelbase measurement, please?
    Spec says 1144mm (45"). I'm still trying to sort out some steering issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Has anyone swapped out the POS Novatec D202-SB 197/12 thru axle hub with a DT Swiss big ride 350 and been able to reuse the same spokes (Mulefut rim)? One spoke calc has the current spokes as laced Novatec/Mulefut if reused on the DT, the NDS spokes are approx 1.8mm short, and the drive side at 1mm long, but there's always play - and these measurement are pretty close.
    I'm pretty sure the bike shop had to replace the short ones when I swapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMNealio View Post
    I'm pretty sure the bike shop had to replace the short ones when I swapped.
    Thank you sir. I'm going to give it a go lacing it up at home with the expectations that it won't work. It'll be good practice anyway - been a while since I've laced anything up. When/if it goes south, I'll have the lbs build it up correctly. Updates as I have them.
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    looking to put a Manitou Mastodon w/ 1 1/8 steerer dia. on my Sturgis, just wondering if anyone knows the size of the race that needs to be pressed on to the steerer tube of the new fork to accept the lower headset bearing?
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    Found an annoying 'feature' of the Sturgis/Night Train AL frame. I bought a Topeak Uni Super Tourist Fat rack for my Sturgis. Aside from the rack mount threads being painted and making it a pain to get screws started....

    The non-drive side lower rack mount is about 10mm inboard of center compared to the drive side. Dumb move from Kinesis. On a rack like the Topeak - or most other racks for that matter - where there is no means of lateral adjustment, your rack winds up off center over the rear tire and cannot be manipulated to correct it. Still works but is annoying if you are anal-retentive like me. I'll be sourcing a 10mm/.375 spacer and longer screws to get this thing centered on the bike. Trying to flip adjuster legs and what have you doesn't work.

    Just an FYI for those trying to rack these things....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleas View Post
    Can someone with a large (19") Sturgis Bullet (with 120mm Bluto at no sag) get me an accurate wheelbase measurement, please?
    Spec says 1144mm (45"). I'm still trying to sort out some steering issues.

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    I measured 1180mm. The best I can tell, the 1144mm figure is with a rigid fork that would measure around 470mm a-c. It was a year ago, but I recall measuring a HTA of 66.5 degrees with the 120 Bluto, using an angle finder that's been accurate across all my other bikes. Bikes Direct has some bad geometry charts.

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    anyone get one of those LAVA RED NightTrain Bullets? Wondering if that is a matte color. Not clear from the pix, but it does look more matte than gloss.

    Been reading the entire thread and will get a bike soon. Still undecided on 1x11 vs 2x11, but it will be one of the Bluto models with GX drivetrain. Prefer red, but 2x11 would be better for my intended use and save me from getting a turbine chinch spider and chainrings. The front derailleur isn't really needed, but I want the range of the 2x.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhioPT View Post
    I measured 1180mm. The best I can tell, the 1144mm figure is with a rigid fork that would measure around 470mm a-c. It was a year ago, but I recall measuring a HTA of 66.5 degrees with the 120 Bluto, using an angle finder that's been accurate across all my other bikes. Bikes Direct has some bad geometry charts.
    Thank you! Maybe I am imagining all this, because that's pretty much what I got (46-and-not-quite-a-half"). This bike used to steer so much better, though. I can't figure out what's going on. The headset is free, the fork is good, no bent bars... arrrgh! Maybe it's some weird tire thing...

    Do you check your head angle on the fork leg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainelf View Post
    anyone get one of those LAVA RED NightTrain Bullets? Wondering if that is a matte color. Not clear from the pix, but it does look more matte than gloss.

    Been reading the entire thread and will get a bike soon. Still undecided on 1x11 vs 2x11, but it will be one of the Bluto models with GX drivetrain. Prefer red, but 2x11 would be better for my intended use and save me from getting a turbine chinch spider and chainrings. The front derailleur isn't really needed, but I want the range of the 2x.
    I spend a lot of time in the small chainring slogging away. The chainlines aren't great on these to begin with, but it would only be amplified by going 1x if you spent most of your time in low, grinding gears. I love 1x on my full suspension ride, but I'm sticking with 2x on my fatty - it especially comes into play when the summer tires go on. I've come to enjoy the novelty of a front derailleur again now that I'm on the fatty more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    I spend a lot of time in the small chainring slogging away. The chainlines aren't great on these to begin with, but it would only be amplified by going 1x if you spent most of your time in low, grinding gears. I love 1x on my full suspension ride, but I'm sticking with 2x on my fatty - it especially comes into play when the summer tires go on. I've come to enjoy the novelty of a front derailleur again now that I'm on the fatty more.
    yeah. the more I think about it, I want that derailleur. Manual ring change by hand is fine, but if the trail is a roller coaster, I know I won't be changing it every time I need to swap front rings. plus, the 2x11 costs the same as the 1x11, with shifter, derailleur, and extra chain ring.

    It's just that every 19" NightTrain 2x with or without suspension right now is a black bike and I already have 3 black bikes...

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Entering the second season with my Sturgis. Such a fun bike. No issues besides that rear hub which was replaced with a DT Swiss.

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    I am contemplating switching my Ď15 NTB crankset to a raceface turbine setup. Are there any drawbacks (other than cost) to this solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyJr View Post
    I am contemplating switching my Ď15 NTB crankset to a raceface turbine setup. Are there any drawbacks (other than cost) to this solution?
    I have a "15 NTB w/samox cranks and a '16 NTB w/turbines. There's no doubt the Raceface's are better, but I can't tell a difference between the two when riding. I'm sure one's light/stiffer/stronger/better, but it just hasn't really come into play yet...for me.
    I'd rather spend the money on wheels - especially if I was still rolling on the Weinmann rims.
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    I've found the Turnagain tubeless ready wheels are a great deal. I own 3 sets of the 100mm ones and absolutely love them, but they don't have them anymore. Still, for only $300 the 80mm ones are a great deal. I have well over 1K on my black set and they're still perfect.
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    A couple of rides in and I can say it is well worth $1500. The best part is the weight (36 lbs) so come spring my other bike will feel like a rocket ship. Perfect winter training machine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaff View Post
    I've found the Turnagain tubeless ready wheels are a great deal. I own 3 sets of the 100mm ones and absolutely love them, but they don't have them anymore. Still, for only $300 the 80mm ones are a great deal. I have well over 1K on my black set and they're still perfect.
    I have a set in 65 and 80mm. I won't be getting any more of these. The rim diameter is overly wide, making for a massively tight fit...if you can get them to mount, even when trying to mount with tubes - the bead seat diameter is just way too tight. Tires that fit no problem on my Mulefut's don't come anywhere close to seating on these, for me, and the tires I've used. Every time I mount a tire up on these, I'm concerned about damaging another bead or casing due to the relatively high pressures required to force the bead to seat, even when using copious amounts of lube. I don't think I could successfully put a tube in on a ride if my tubeless failed and had to perform a field repair.

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    Hi everyone. Just sharing a photo of my 2015 Sturgis Bullet taken last Nov 12, 2017 here in Brunei Darussalam.

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    Thanks for viewing and cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Has anyone swapped out the POS Novatec D202-SB 197/12 thru axle hub with a DT Swiss big ride 350 and been able to reuse the same spokes (Mulefut rim)? One spoke calc has the current spokes as laced Novatec/Mulefut if reused on the DT, the NDS spokes are approx 1.8mm short, and the drive side at 1mm long, but there's always play - and these measurement are pretty close.
    Laced the DT Swiss big ride into the Mulefut rim, re-using the stock spokes from the Novatec hub. Worked just fine for me. Just found the steepest hill I could find and mashed my way up it, standing, in granny gear...nary a pop, nor ping, nor skipping thing, no crunching, no munching, nor cracking or clacking, just standing and spinning, all the while grinning (whoah - Nyquil is kicking in).

    Long story short, its nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Laced the DT Swiss big ride into the Mulefut rim, re-using the stock spokes from the Novatec hub. Worked just fine for me. Just found the steepest hill I could find and mashed my way up it, standing, in granny gear...nary a pop, nor ping, nor skipping thing, no crunching, no munching, nor cracking or clacking, just standing and spinning, all the while grinning (whoah - Nyquil is kicking in).

    Long story short, its nice.
    If you use the DT Swiss, do you retain the Axle spacers, or is the hub the correct width for the dropouts without the craptastic plastic washers?


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    Plastic spacers? Really? Bikes direct does some stupid stuff. I'm assuming that some of the 197 thru axle Novatec hubs require rear spacers, looking at the current Mulefut wheelset for sale on BD. Neither of my Sturgis/NT Bullets have these spacers - just a D202SB 197 thru axle hub.
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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Damn. Snapped my derailleur hanger on the way to the office this morning. At least I only had to walk about a mile.

    The one I snapped is the old original one that came with the '15 NTB. I had already purchased a spare hanger of the improved variety from BD, but hadn't yet put it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisbenji View Post
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    Finally ditched the Vee Rubber Snowshoes that came with my bike. I didn't loose much weight (if any) as my bike still comes in at 30.25 lbs ready to ride. However, my god does it handle better now. I can actually rail corners on this thing without fighting it to stay on line. I was running my snowshoes at 7f/8r PSI on hardpack and was getting a bit of self-steer. I ran these tires at the same PSI and there wasn't a single trace of self-steer. I think I'm gonna run 6f/7r next time out.
    Which width of Jumbo Jim did you get and are you happy with it? I was thinking of getting 4.0 for a non-winter tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyJr View Post
    Damn. Snapped my derailleur hanger on the way to the office this morning. At least I only had to walk about a mile.

    The one I snapped is the old original one that came with the '15 NTB. I had already purchased a spare hanger of the improved variety from BD, but hadn't yet put it on.
    It's not improved... Haha. You need the machined one if you want a step up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Laced the DT Swiss big ride into the Mulefut rim, re-using the stock spokes from the Novatec hub. Worked just fine for me. Just found the steepest hill I could find and mashed my way up it, standing, in granny gear...nary a pop, nor ping, nor skipping thing, no crunching, no munching, nor cracking or clacking, just standing and spinning, all the while grinning (whoah - Nyquil is kicking in).

    Long story short, its nice.
    I'm either lucky, smart, or just on the countdown. My Novatec hasn't sharted the bed yet. Granted, before I even rode it, I threadlocked the end caps on to make sure it didn't develop play, but I've not been easy on it. I regularly do standing knee-busters up nasty inclines and it hasn't made so much as a peep yet.

    If it does go, it's not even a question of what I'll get to replace it. Love the DT350s on my other bikes.

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    Regarding the '15 NightTrain, wondering peoples thoughts on the sizing... I ride all L bikes, but I am 5'10". I am looking at a used NightTrain Bullet and the owner is 5'10" (yes I got his height before him knowing mine haha). Is this going to be sized way to big for me? He has a 90mm stem on it (I assume for sizing) so thoughts?

    I will obviously test ride first, but its 2hrs from me, so don't want to waste mine time or his if its too big.

    Its been converted to a 1x as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanquishphoto View Post
    Regarding the '15 NightTrain, wondering peoples thoughts on the sizing... I ride all L bikes, but I am 5'10". I am looking at a used NightTrain Bullet and the owner is 5'10" (yes I got his height before him knowing mine haha). Is this going to be sized way to big for me? He has a 90mm stem on it (I assume for sizing) so thoughts?

    I will obviously test ride first, but its 2hrs from me, so don't want to waste mine time or his if its too big.

    Its been converted to a 1x as well.
    A friend of mine is 5'10" and he rides a L Motobecane fat bike so it should be OK for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanquishphoto View Post
    Regarding the '15 NightTrain, wondering peoples thoughts on the sizing... I ride all L bikes, but I am 5'10". I am looking at a used NightTrain Bullet and the owner is 5'10" (yes I got his height before him knowing mine haha). Is this going to be sized way to big for me? He has a 90mm stem on it (I assume for sizing) so thoughts?
    I'm also 5'10", with a 33 inch inseam. I have the 2017 Night Train Express, in size 17.5 (which I believe is medium). I think it's just right. I never rode a 19 (which I believe is large), but I have a hunch it would be too big for me. FWIW my non-fat bike (2016 Trek 7.3FX) is a large and fits just right as well.

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    I am also 5'10", I have a 2015 NTB medium.

    My legs are short and I have a longer torso, so YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanquishphoto View Post
    Regarding the '15 NightTrain, wondering peoples thoughts on the sizing... I ride all L bikes, but I am 5'10". I am looking at a used NightTrain Bullet and the owner is 5'10" (yes I got his height before him knowing mine haha). Is this going to be sized way to big for me? He has a 90mm stem on it (I assume for sizing) so thoughts?
    I'm 5'9" and have monkey arms and long'ish torso. I had a small for standover in snow and it was alright but a little short in top tube for me. That's part of the reason I bought a new frame. I sized up to a medium in the 9:zero:7 Tundra. I think a large might be pretty long and standover could be an issue. Remember that when you look at geometry it's spec'd for a rigid fork. When you add a bluto like the Bullet it adds an inch to standover

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    Full frame triangle bag

    I'm looking to get a bag that will take up the entire open triangular section of the frame for my Sturgis. Does anyone know if it exists for the Sturgis/NT and where to get it? I've seen them on other brands of HT fat bikes but with differences in tube lengths and angles at all 3 sides and corners I don't know if a generic full frame bag will sit nice and snug in that void. Or are the 3 sides of a "generic" full frame bag compliant enough to conform to the subtle differences in tube lengths and angles? If you have a full frame bag can you share the make and model of it? A picture would help a lot too. Thanks.
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    saw this custom frame bag source while looking at their pogies yesterday:

    Custom Frame Bag - Uraltour.com - bike expedition

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    Quote Originally Posted by lalahg View Post
    Which width of Jumbo Jim did you get and are you happy with it? I was thinking of getting 4.0 for a non-winter tire.
    Hey, I just bought 1 JJ 4.0 to try out. Treads Wider than the Carcass?

    I think it's a really great tire. I will probably use it on the front.

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    I love my JJ 4.0's for summer tires - I did find them to have some self steer on 80mm rims, now run them on i65 rims, they're perfect - really fast rollers, no self steer, great all around dry tire. Early reports claimed terrible durability with lots of sidewall cuts...not here. Plenty tough, easy tubeless setup.
    I would advise not taking my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    I love my JJ 4.0's for summer tires - I did find them to have some self steer on 80mm rims, now run them on i65 rims, they're perfect - really fast rollers, no self steer, great all around dry tire. Early reports claimed terrible durability with lots of sidewall cuts...not here. Plenty tough, easy tubeless setup.
    Have you used them in sand? New bike arriving has them and debating swapping in 4.8s immediately so I can sell them like-new.

    Will use on snow and sand but have a 29er for primary use.
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    As with snow, your sand may be way different than my sand. The only really deep sand I've ridden this setup in is in Moab, up top around the Slickrock trail and other random trails up in the Sand Flats rec area. They did fine, as the lugs aren't really deep, but I am NOT a sand aficionado by any stretch. I've never ridden on a beach. I find these to be absolutely terrible in snow, if that helps. The JJ 4.0's are my summer tires. Bud and Lou in the winter on 80's.
    I would advise not taking my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    I'm looking to get a bag that will take up the entire open triangular section of the frame for my Sturgis. Does anyone know if it exists for the Sturgis/NT and where to get it? I've seen them on other brands of HT fat bikes but with differences in tube lengths and angles at all 3 sides and corners I don't know if a generic full frame bag will sit nice and snug in that void. Or are the 3 sides of a "generic" full frame bag compliant enough to conform to the subtle differences in tube lengths and angles? If you have a full frame bag can you share the make and model of it? A picture would help a lot too. Thanks.
    I have a Rogue Panda custom bag on both my bikes. Fits perfectly.
    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-fenders.jpg

    There isn't one that completely fill sout the triangle and many cost as much, some even more. I like the space-efficiency, but it also looks better to not leave the big gaps. I have the dual-compartment and the map pocket (shown).

    The way they size it is you hold (or tape) a measuring tape to your bike and take good pictures and they scale it from there.
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    Got my bike today, loving it

    8 degrees F outside, sunny and just 2 " of snow, perfect to try out my just delivered Night Train Bullet 19" 2x11. 2 miles of frozen single track across the street from my house, so that's where I went.

    Bike weighs 34.2 pounds out of the box, but feels quite nimble. It'll be turned tubeless soon, I'll need a longer stem and wider bar as well. I'll go carbon on that and the seat post, although weight is really not a big deal. A rear rack is already in the mail, as this will be my nasty weather commuter, for those days I don't want to ride my old Gary Fisher to work (26.8 miles round trip)

    I did the Loctite on the rear axle spacer nut, checked everything for lube. Fork works just fine in 8F degree weather, too, although I wasn't out for more than an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepRage View Post
    Have you used them in sand? New bike arriving has them and debating swapping in 4.8s immediately so I can sell them like-new.

    Will use on snow and sand but have a 29er for primary use.
    I've used 4.0 Snowshoes in sand (around Lake Michigan, Lake Erie, and Lake Superior). At 4-5psi they were OK. Wider might be better, but there is always a trade-off in getting to the sand and fiddling with tire pressure. I am expecting the JJ 4.0s to do just fine. That is one reason I bought them. I got the JJ 4.0 Snakeskin.

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    Ibera IB-RA5 rack on 2017 NTB

    I need a rack on my NTB, so I searched the thread and looked at all the mostly expensive options. Knowing that my dirt cheap Topeak on my other bike has lasted over 30,000 harsh commuter miles, I didn't feel like spending too much on a bomb proof rack for the few times I'll need it on the fat bike.

    I went with the cheapest one that is wide enough for this bike and it looks and feels quite solid. The adjustable height piece may be the weak spot to monitor (the entire weight on two M4 screws). It is the Ibera IB-RA5 for less than $30.

    It required a little trimming of the two adjustable rods that connect it in the front. Here's the result, ready for the first snow commute with my Ortlieb bags that snap right on at the top, while the bottom tab will need to be adjusted far to the side to latch behind one of the rear tube.

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    Lots of room around the tire, and no spacers needed at all to install the main supports.

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    here underneath the skinny top tubes, the trimmed support rods - about 2 inches had to come off the end so they don't hit that main cross tube

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    I made some changes to my Sturgis. I pulled off the original drivetrain and put on 1x11 using:

    Raceface Turbine Cinch cranks (170mm with 190mm spindle).
    Real World Cycling BSA30 bottom bracket with Enduro bearings
    absoluteBlack 28T oval cinch chainring.
    Sunrise 11-46 cassette
    SRAM GX 11 speed shifter and derailleur
    Shimano SP-41 cable outer
    I also swapped my 50mm stem I've been using and put the original 80mm back on.



    I've got links at the end of the video for the two funnest downhills as well.

    Overall, this has transformed the ride. I am really loving the simplicity of the 1x and the gear jumps on the Sunrise 11-46 are about perfect. Much better than a Shimano 11-46. The real revelation for me is the oval chain ring. Power delivery on climbs just appears so much smoother. This is critical for climbing in snow. I was able to climb much better than I usually can as there appeared to be no break-away "pulse" during peddling. Another factor may be that I reduced the crank length from 175mm to 170mm even though I am 5'11" with a 32" inseam. This is the second bike I have shorted cranks on and I just prefer it now.

    Anyway, if you are still using the original 2x that these bikes came with I would highly recommend this set up. It's a game changer for me.

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