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    [QUOTE=shappy;11548510]To follow up on my own post, does anyone know if this quick release adapter will work on the Night Train:QUOTE]

    The NT is a thru-axle front and rear.

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    [QUOTE=OnThaCouch;11548523]
    Quote Originally Posted by shappy View Post
    To follow up on my own post, does anyone know if this quick release adapter will work on the Night Train:QUOTE]

    The NT is a thru-axle front and rear.
    Thanks, I just realized that. So are there any other options for mounting a rear rack at the dropouts?

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    That QR adapter will not work on the Sturgis or Night Train because they do not use a quick release skewer in the rear. It is a 12mm Thru axle.

    I would wait until we start seeing these frames as the pictures are of pre-production prototypes and the actual frames may have the rack mounts.

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    190mm hub, skewers won't be long enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    That QR adapter will not work on the Sturgis or Night Train because they do not use a quick release skewer in the rear. It is a 12mm Thru axle.

    I would wait until we start seeing these frames as the pictures are of pre-production prototypes and the actual frames may have the rack mounts.
    BD customer service told me that the frames have no mounts, upper or lower.

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    It seems the Sturgis/Night Train frame is "performance..." dare I say "KOM" oriented. For rack mounts and more of a Mukluk/Moonlander experience it looks like the Lurch or possibly the Fantom would be the bike.

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    I plan to add a Specialized Command Post dropper seat post to my Sturgis Bullet. Does anyone know if the Sturgis frame supports an internally routed seatpost cable? I know that the Sturgis frame has internal cable routing, but I don't know if that applies to the seat post as well?

    I've found 2 command posts locally, but one (The IR model) requires internal cable routing.

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    The cassette for the Sturgis Bullet is described as "SRAM CS-PG-1030 11-36." Is that the one that has individual rings, and it bends up the hub causing play? Should I be thinking of upgrading the cassette, not because of weight, but to avoid bending up my hub? I suppose replacing that part of the hub isn't so expensive, but might be an unnecessary cost. Is this a non-issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETChipotle View Post
    The cassette for the Sturgis Bullet is described as "SRAM CS-PG-1030 11-36." Is that the one that has individual rings, and it bends up the hub causing play? Should I be thinking of upgrading the cassette, not because of weight, but to avoid bending up my hub? I suppose replacing that part of the hub isn't so expensive, but might be an unnecessary cost. Is this a non-issue?
    According to this post in the Lurch Lounge you are correct: freehub damage

    It looks like the cassette rings are not joined and the hub body is soft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartzpad View Post
    I plan to add a Specialized Command Post dropper seat post to my Sturgis Bullet. Does anyone know if the Sturgis frame supports an internally routed seatpost cable? I know that the Sturgis frame has internal cable routing, but I don't know if that applies to the seat post as well?

    I've found 2 command posts locally, but one (The IR model) requires internal cable routing.
    There is no specific internal routin for a dropper post. However, if you removed your front derailleur for a 1x setup, you may be able to make the fd cable routing work for your dropper post.

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    I have had aluminum freehub bodies forever and the cassette rings will only dig so deep and then they can't go any further. The little ridge of aluminum builds up and hits the "ceiling" of the cog and stops. The only pain in the ass is that the cassette is harder to remove but if the hub isn't piece of crap (I am more concerned that this guy already has crunchy hub bearings after 50 miles of riding) you won't need to take the cassette off very often anyway. Prep the cassette mating surface with anti-seize and it will make it easier to remove and add a little "material" with all of the graphite in the compound.

    You could also get real techy and avoid buying more stuff by getting two or three long 3mm bolts and drilling out the larger cogs, tapping the last one and tying them together like the old Shimano 7-speed cassettes used to be.

    Once I get the bike I will immediately pull the hub and measure the bearings and order some higher end cartridge bearings for when the stock ones die.

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    This may be superficial and off current topic, but, whatever. I like the purple on the nighttrain, but that color only comes on the non-bluto model. I really like the sturgis bullet in red, but prefer the better upgrades on the N/T bullet. I hope that BD sales folk read these threads cuz the N/T bullet needs the purple. That would be a fine looking fatty. Maybe you could order the rigid purple N/T and ask BD to install the Bluto for same price? My guess would be no, but maybe worth asking. I know the Lurch comes/came (haven't seen any on the website) in purple, but I prefer the alloy-framed, thru-axled (both ends) N/T and sturgis frames.
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    I keep ranting here because I want my bike to come and this is like meds...

    Just buy a sturgis..the only worthwhile upgrade on the NT is the 120 tpi tires. An X7 rear derailluer is actually a few grams lighter than an X9 and feels the same. The shifters are probably heavier so a wash there. You can get a set of new Avid DB3 brakes (I would rather have dual piston brakes instead of the quad piston pains in the ass that are the Guides) for $60 shipped on EBay with a little patience which you must have because it seems like we are waiting an eternity for these things!

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    Patiently waiting for my red Sturgis Bullet. Picked up a few upgrades for it:

    One-Up Components 42T conversion
    Specialized Command Post Blacklite, $175 local classifieds
    Specialized Henge Saddle, brand new, $20 local classifieds

    Plan to go tubeless, buy a large frame bag and ride the wheels off. I'm also thinking that I will likely want to reduce the Bluto from 120mm to 80mm or 100mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coot271 View Post
    This may be superficial and off current topic, but, whatever. I like the purple on the nighttrain, but that color only comes on the non-bluto model. I really like the sturgis bullet in red, but prefer the better upgrades on the N/T bullet. I hope that BD sales folk read these threads cuz the N/T bullet needs the purple. That would be a fine looking fatty. Maybe you could order the rigid purple N/T and ask BD to install the Bluto for same price? My guess would be no, but maybe worth asking. I know the Lurch comes/came (haven't seen any on the website) in purple, but I prefer the alloy-framed, thru-axled (both ends) N/T and sturgis frames.
    For awhile the NT bullet wasn't available and I was literally moments from purchasing the NT and an aftermarket Bluto and just before doing so I checked and several NT bullets had magically appeared. Back to the aftermarket Bluto...don't remember the website but it was listed for 525 but when I added it to my cart it had a price of 475. Granted that's 175 more but it still beats a sharp stick in the eye. btw I'd already requested them getting me a bluto at their bulk price but they wouldn't bite.

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    jensenusa has the e.13 fat bike TRS+ crankset for $149 (reg 330+)....picked one up today for the NT Bullet since the crankset and the seat seem to be where they went cheap. I'll post up how the swap went....hope to be riding it next weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurleyman View Post
    jensenusa has the e.13 fat bike TRS+ crankset for $149 (reg 330+)....picked one up today for the NT Bullet since the crankset and the seat seem to be where they went cheap. I'll post up how the swap went....hope to be riding it next weekend.
    Is that crank compatible with 190mm rear spacings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny31292 View Post
    Is that crank compatible with 190mm rear spacings?
    Yessir, according to Charles schnieder of the hive

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    OK...was checking my shipping tag tonight and UPS says my tag was voided by the shipper. Anyone else get this notification? I did change sizes but never received an updated shipping notice so I am wondering why the voided shipping tag now.

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    Just saw this on Facebook

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    Good Morning, Eager Fatty-Fans!

    We mean Fat Bikes, of course!

    We are watching the Sturgis and Night Train containers closer than any other we've had before. The ocean freight company just alerted us that they 'moved to rail'.

    Our directions to forwarder are to move to our Dallas warehouses as that is quicker than going to Houston warehouse on this route (and much quicker than going to our Jacksonville warehouses).

    Rail time can be as little as 2 days and as long as 7.
    We have local truckers altered that we want 'hot shot' pull and delivery.
    We will unload, sort, inspect and ship all the same day by bringing in extra help once these arrive.

    All four models: Sturgis, Night Train, Sturgis Bullet and Night Train Bullet have been in high demand.
    We expect the shipment of Sturgis Bullet framesets [due Jan 15] and Sturgis Bullet & Night Train Bullet complete bikes [due Jan 31] will all sell out quickly; especially after the first load is received by customers who will pass the word along.

    So, if you have even the slightest interest, we highly recommend you take a look at our hot new bikes before it's too late to snag one!
    Photo: Good Morning, Eager Fatty-Fans!

    We mean Fat Bikes, of course!

    We are watching the Sturgis and Night Train containers closer than any other we've had before. The ocean freight company just alerted us that they 'moved to rail'.

    Our directions to forwarder are to move to our Dallas warehouses as that is quicker than going to Houston warehouse on this route (and much quicker than going to our Jacksonville warehouses).

    Rail time can be as little as 2 days and as long as 7.
    We have local truckers altered that we want 'hot shot' pull and delivery.
    We will unload, sort, inspect and ship all the same day by bringing in extra help once these arrive.

    All four models: Sturgis, Night Train, Sturgis Bullet and Night Train Bullet have been in high demand.
    We expect the shipment of Sturgis Bullet framesets [due Jan 15] and Sturgis Bullet & Night Train Bullet complete bikes [due Jan 31] will all sell out quickly; especially after the first load is received by customers who will pass the word along.

    So, if you have even the slightest interest, we highly recommend you take a look at our hot new bikes before it's too late to snag one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    OK...was checking my shipping tag tonight and UPS says my tag was voided by the shipper. Anyone else get this notification? I did change sizes but never received an updated shipping notice so I am wondering why the voided shipping tag now.
    Nope, I just checked and my tracking number is still valid, still waiting for the bikes at the warehouse that it will go active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    OK...was checking my shipping tag tonight and UPS says my tag was voided by the shipper. Anyone else get this notification? I did change sizes but never received an updated shipping notice so I am wondering why the voided shipping tag now.
    Mine was voided on Friday as well. I didn't make any changes to my order.
    If anyone from BD is reading, an email would be nice!

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

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    Mine was voided on Friday as well. I didn't make any changes to my order.
    If anyone from BD is reading, an email would be nice!
    Same here. Mine also voided.

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    My tracking number is still valid . Not showing movement though.

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    Mystery solved...Just got off the phone with Megan from BD. Seems like that the shipping tag is automatically voided/de-activated if there is no activity for 60 days or more (did I really order THAT long ago). She assured me that once it is scanned for shipping that it will re-activate and track just fine.

    I did ask for an update on an actual shipping date and she had the same info (word for word) that went out in the update on Facebook a little while ago. Still guesstimating some time between Oct 27 and Nov 10.

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    7 more days till Nov 10. I hope to see lots of snow very soon

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    The e.13 TRS+ cranks that JensonUSA is selling for more than 1/2 off is the older 67.5mm chainline version, and is an older/discontinued model. The new models are 74.8mm chainline.

    So the cranks on sale at Jenson USA with the 67.5mm chainline "MAY" work with the Sturgis/Night Train frame...possibly in a 1x set-up (outer ring position), and with narrower tires (i.e. 4" or smaller...just a guess). But you may get odd chainline (i.e. abnormal wear, poor shifting performance, noise, etc.).

    However, it probably won't work as a 2x set-up at all, regardless of rear tire clearance. And probably not with tires more than 4" wide (just a pure guess on my part).





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    Yessir, according to Charles schnieder of the hive
    Quote Originally Posted by danny31292 View Post
    Is that crank compatible with 190mm rear spacings?

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    Race Face Ride Fat bike crankset is only $100 if you feel the need to swap the cranks - they also include an external bottom bracket. I found my Ride for $76 including shipping from BikeParts.com a month ago. They do not have any left though...

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    Two things. 1st, the Samox crank on the Fatboy seems to be having enough issues with the crank bolt that its concerning. How can we prevent this issue? 2nd, whats a good replacement crank that is compatible with the 190mm rear. I think a few people have posted incompatible 170mm cranks.

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    Just saw this on Facebook. It's hotting up!

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    The long awaited Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet are starting to land! Many pre-sold units will ship out today. Unfortunately, as these were in several assorted containers, not all unloaded today. Some containers were selected by U.S. customs to inspect.
    We have no control over customs, their timing, or work load. However, we have made it clear to our forwarder that the outstanding containers are a hot rush. As soon as we get release and delivery on the remaining Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet bikes the remaining bikes will ship at once.
    Hundreds of tracking numbers on pre-sold units will be live and show movement tomorrow.
    OTHER GOOD NEWS: the outstanding containers include some Fat Bike wheels that will go on sale for Black Friday promo - including some 29er wheels that will work in Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet.
    We will certainly post when the remainder unload.
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    Beat me to it!

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    Just got off the phone (literally) with BD. My Night Train will ship today!!

    Keep an eye out for movement on your tracking ticket, y'all.

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    Woot! Awesome man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    Woot! Awesome man!
    Heck ya!! I have a long weekend coming up .

    Hopefully it's delivered in time to introduce it to the local trails
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    Just got off the phone (literally) with BD. My Night Train will ship today!!

    Keep an eye out for movement on your tracking ticket, y'all.
    I just got off the phone with BD and was told to keep Ckecking for movement with your tracking number....she couldnt tell who would be getting their bike from the recieved containers and who would be waiting on the ones held by customs.

    This was the email I received:

    Hi, Thanks very much for your order with Bikesdirect.com. Long awaited Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet are starting to land! Many pre-sold units will ship out today. If you are receiving this email then something that you ordered will be shipping today. Unfortunately, as these were in several assorted containers, not all unloaded today. Some containers were selected by U.S. customs to inspect. We have no control over customs, their timing, or work load. However, we have made it clear to our forwarder that the outstanding containers are a hot rush. As soon as we get release and delivery on the remaining Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet bikes the remaining bikes will ship at once. Hundreds of tracking numbers on pre-sold units will be live and will show movement within the next 24 hours.

    Your bike will ship with the tracking number that was sent to you after you ordered. If you don't see that email, please check your spam folder. If you have any problems with this, please let us know. The best way is to reply to this email, or you can always call us at 904-249-2453. If you don't reach us between 9-5 EST just call back as we may be on the other line with a customer.

    OTHER GOOD NEWS: the outstanding containers include some Fat Bike wheels that will go on sale for Black Friday promo - including some 29er wheels that will work on Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet.

    We thank you for your business and most importantly your patience. We look forward to completing your order as soon as possible. Thanks for being a valued customer, you are saving hundreds with BikesDirect.com!

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    Update.....just checked my tracking number after my last post to yall and low and behold:

    Scheduled Delivery Updated To:
    Friday, 11/07/2014, By End of Day

    WAHOOOOO!!!!!!

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    I did not get that email

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    My tracking number just updated (I checked right after I saw I got the above email) - shows picked up and delivery by end of day Thursday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    How early did those that have tracking info order? I ordered back on Sept. 20.

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    I ordered August 15th.

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    I ordered August 22nd and no active UPS Tracking number yet.

    17.5" red Sturgis Bullet

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    ^^ me too!!!


    Scheduled Delivery Updated To:
    Friday, 11/07/2014, By End of Day

    Last Location:
    Mesquite, TX, United States, Tuesday, 11/04/2014


    "Picked Up"

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    August 26 here

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    I ordered NT bullet July 16. My tracking number says "shipment information voided".
    I must be the person who has waited longer than anyone else.

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    I am going to play a little Sherlock Holmes here because I am eager for my bike...I am willing to bet that certain colors/bikes/sizes were grouped together.

    I ordered a 17" Sturgis in KTM Orange.

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    Wonder if it makes sense to include what you ordered...

    NT - no Bullet
    Original order on 9/2, updated size on 10/7 (S->M)

    Delivery EOD Thurs 11/6

    I really can't believe how excited I am to ride this thing... I feel for all the folks left in the dark right now. Hopefully only a matter of a day or so...

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    I ordered the 17.5 Night-Train scheduled for Friday delivery here in Michigan

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

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    I ordered the 17.5 Night-Train scheduled for Friday delivery here in Michigan
    Bullet?

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    I really can't believe how excited I am to ride this thing... I feel for all the folks left in the dark right now. Hopefully only a matter of a day or so...[/QUOTE]

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