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    No...non Bluto in Gloss Black

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    Ordered 2 weeks ago today.

    Night Train. Black. 17.5

    Friday to NJ.

    I hope everyone gets their bike because I'm excited as hell. I'm sure it'll be a matter of time for everyone to get thier UPS #s updated

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    So cool that there are delivery dates coming out.

    Unfortunately, mine is not updated yet. Hoping it isn't too long for CA delivery.

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    Mine is a Sturgis Bullet Gun Metal in XL (21"). First order placed on 8/7 then changed on 8/15 from L to XL. Yeah my pile of parts will get smaller! I have 3 big storage bins of parts waiting on fat bikes to put them on...
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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    I got the email but my ups tracking number still shows as voided. I ordered matte black NT Bullet on July 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    I got the email but my ups tracking number still shows as voided. I ordered matte black NT Bullet on July 20.
    I ordered on July 22 and did not get an email today but BD called me asking if I still wanted to keep my Matte Silver that I ordered (changed sizes) or wait on a Matte Black to possibly show up. I opted to keep the Silver and BD told me it would ship out today.

    I am hoping that the tracking # activatives soon. If not, I'll call BD back to confirm they sent it out today like they said they did.

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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    I didn't get the email but my tracking # shows movement. Delivery on Friday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drmayer View Post
    I didn't get the email but my tracking # shows movement. Delivery on Friday!
    Nice! What date did you place your order?
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    No movement on my tracking number. I ordered Night Train Bullet on 9/16. I am guessing that those of us who didn't get a number today may wait a long time. They said some of this is with customs. That can take days or weeks to clear.

    Looks like no Black Bullets have shipped yet by this thread. I am guessing the Bullets were held up more than the others. The one guy ordered the 17.5 regular 2 weeks ago and it shipped today. Tells me us Bullet folks are going to do most the waiting if they are up that close in orders for non-Bullets.

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    17.5 sturgis bullet, white, and i'll have it monday as I see it was picked up (I'm in Idaho).
    (ordered in July - but dont think that matters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    The e.13 TRS+ cranks that JensonUSA is selling for more than 1/2 off is the older 67.5mm chainline version, and is an older/discontinued model. The new models are 74.8mm chainline.

    So the cranks on sale at Jenson USA with the 67.5mm chainline "MAY" work with the Sturgis/Night Train frame...possibly in a 1x set-up (outer ring position), and with narrower tires (i.e. 4" or smaller...just a guess). But you may get odd chainline (i.e. abnormal wear, poor shifting performance, noise, etc.).

    However, it probably won't work as a 2x set-up at all, regardless of rear tire clearance. And probably not with tires more than 4" wide (just a pure guess on my part).

    Thanks for the heads up....I'm sure I would have figured that out eventually.....after throwing it across the garage...turns out the order wasn't far enough along and they returned to sender.

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    I keep pressing refresh. Ordered NT bullet early Sep. looks like mines stopped although got the email which is badly written as says" if you get this email yours has shipped" but then goes on to say " some have been stopped by customs" so not very clear.


    Quote Originally Posted by pearsth View Post
    No movement on my tracking number. I ordered Night Train Bullet on 9/16. I am guessing that those of us who didn't get a number today may wait a long time. They said some of this is with customs. That can take days or weeks to clear.

    Looks like no Black Bullets have shipped yet by this thread. I am guessing the Bullets were held up more than the others. The one guy ordered the 17.5 regular 2 weeks ago and it shipped today. Tells me us Bullet folks are going to do most the waiting if they are up that close in orders for non-Bullets.

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    I ordered a 21" black NT bullet 10/21 (I don't know how you guys could stand waiting since friggin July) I don't have any activity on my shipment yet. Glad to see peeps have them on their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny31292 View Post
    Two things. 1st, the Samox crank on the Fatboy seems to be having enough issues with the crank bolt that its concerning. How can we prevent this issue? 2nd, whats a good replacement crank that is compatible with the 190mm rear. I think a few people have posted incompatible 170mm cranks.
    race face seems to have several that will fit the bill. After neon97s post I went to raceface website and found a pdf with helpful dimensions.

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    Ordered NT Bullet matte black 17.5 on 9/16. No movement on tracking number to Utah. My original email with tracking number from 9/16 shows a ship date of 11/5/14 next to tracking number link in the email. Weird?

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    I need to inform customs that it is a matter of national security that I get my bike as soon as possible

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    Arriving Monday Nov 10

    Ordered my night train on Sept 14, just checked my ups shipping no and arrival date should be monday. Not too soon as snow is predicted for tommorrow in Northern Wisconsin. Should be a fun winter.

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    Was it a bullet? Seems black bullets are delayed.....

    Quote Originally Posted by brulebike View Post
    Ordered my night train on Sept 14, just checked my ups shipping no and arrival date should be monday. Not too soon as snow is predicted for tommorrow in Northern Wisconsin. Should be a fun winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennybullfrog View Post
    Was it a bullet? Seems black bullets are delayed.....
    Nope, this will be a "snow" bike initially. Wanted to keep it as light as possible. I'm thinking Blutos will be in short supply right now, I'd bet that is what will contribute to delay. This is like the countdown to the launch of space rocket, Glad I'm in on the experimental launch.

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    Ordered mine in October. Ship Date said to be 11/10. NT 17.5 in Deep Purple. No movement or emails but I figured mine would be one of the last to go out.
    Glad to see they are starting to go out. I hope customs cooperates too!

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    Mine is a 17.5" purple NT as well. But I ordered on July 28th. No email/UPS movement yet. As said previously, these are most likely batched in containers (i.e. all of one model/size/colour together). Good to see no one got a purple 17.5" NT before me so far...

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    White Sturgis Bullet 17.5 headed my way, tracking says Nov 7, but based on where it is now, I could see it getting into town here tonight for delivery on Nov 6. My order was 9/24 when I cancelled the previous order for a 17.5 rigid green Sturgis from a week earlier.

    -edit - I was optimistic they'd zip right up I-35 and arrive a day early but looks like it's stuck in Kansas City.
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    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Delivery date went from nov 7 to Monday November 10. All good! Just gotta figure out who will be home to accept the package.

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    Mine shipped today, Purple Night Train 19.

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    Ok...so I feel like I have the equivalent of fat bike blue balls .

    After getting a call at 10:20am PST yesterday letting me know that my bike would ship yesterday there is still no movement on my ticket.

    I called this morning and spoke with the same person and now the story is that "we are shipping a lot of bikes at the same time so it may take a while before your ticket is activated".

    I know I've been waiting since July for this thing but c'mon. With the end so close in sight you can't mess with people's minds like this .

    Just let me know that I should see something in the next couple of days/that "we'll get that out as soon as we can"...don't tell me it's going to ship on a date that it wouldn't.

    /rant over....

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    Mine is in St. Louis right now. More than half way here!

    :-)
    My wife told me UPS usually gets to my house by 3PM so I am leaving work at 2 tomorrow.

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    I was able to order an Old Man Mountain Phat Sherpa rack for the Night Train by calling and talking to the guys at OMM directly. They have to order a Roberts axle to make it work, and clamp mounts but it will ship to me I a couple of days. Looking forward to getting it and I will post how it goes once I get both the bike and rack. My bike has not shown any movement on the tracking number as of today.

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    if looking to upgrade bottom bracket and crankset... what are the specifics.. is it press fit, threaded,, 120mm spindle? I know a lot seems to be out of stock a this current time.. waiting on the large sturgis bullet to arrive, supposedly by Monday... will have a few days before deer season opens up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by siv View Post
    Mine shipped today, Purple Night Train 19.
    First purple NT I've seen movement on. Makes me giddy as I have a purple nt in 17.5 with my name on it, but no ups movement so far.

    Not sure how the manufacturer grouped the bikes in the containers. By model, by size, or by colour?

    Haven't seen anyone post of a 15.5" shipped yet, regardless of order date, model or colour.

    I think I've seen nt, ntb, sturgis a sturgis bullets move. But not all colours. Song don't think they were grouped by model. Makes me think they are grouped by size/colour.

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    I believe the bottom bracket and cranks are PF30 bottom bracket and 100mm spindle w/ 190 spacing. I keep thinking about ordering another set of RF Ride cranks for this bike but going to hold off and hope these cranks are OK. I have a set of Ride cranks for 170 spacing sitting in my pile-O-Parts so can throw those on in a pinch but will probably have chain line issues. Will keep me riding in case of issues while I deal with mail order warranty. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    I believe the bottom bracket and cranks are PF30 bottom bracket and 100mm spindle w/ 190 spacing. I keep thinking about ordering another set of RF Ride cranks for this bike but going to hold off and hope these cranks are OK. I have a set of Ride cranks for 170 spacing sitting in my pile-O-Parts so can throw those on in a pinch but will probably have chain line issues. Will keep me riding in case of issues while I deal with mail order warranty. :-)
    Pretty sure the BB is 100m and the spindle is 120mm with washers on each side. As for the bottom bracket, what kind does the Boris use? BSA or PF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    I believe the bottom bracket and cranks are PF30 bottom bracket and 100mm spindle w/ 190 spacing. I keep thinking about ordering another set of RF Ride cranks for this bike but going to hold off and hope these cranks are OK. I have a set of Ride cranks for 170 spacing sitting in my pile-O-Parts so can throw those on in a pinch but will probably have chain line issues. Will keep me riding in case of issues while I deal with mail order warranty. :-)
    This is incorrect

    The nt/sturgis frame is threaded bsa bottom bracket. 100mm shell. Requires 120mm shell spacing (ie meant for 190mm old tear/100mm bottom bracket + 10mm spindle spacer on each end) if you want to run 2x front.

    If you run a 1x front, a spindle length meant for a 170mm old rear/100mm bb may be able to work provided:
    1. Race face direct mount: flip the ring to regain chainline
    2. Triple crank: put the ring in the outboard/large ring position, and check the arms to ensure they clear the chainstays. You should have good chainline.
    3. Double crank: use outer ring position and live with a poor chain line. You might also have issues with the chain rubbing on tires wider than about 4".

    But without having these frames actually out in market, these are just my best educated assumptions for now.

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    Received an email from Bikes Direct just now saying that my 17.5" Red Sturgis Bullet is stuck in customs:

    Hi, thanks very much for your order with Bikesdirect.com. As you may have heard, some of the Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet arrived yesterday and began shipping. Unfortunately, as these were in several assorted containers, not all unloaded yesterday. Some containers were selected by U.S. customs to inspect.

    If you are receiving this email then your bike was on one of these containers. We have no control over customs, their timing, or work load. However, we have made it clear to our forwarder that the outstanding containers are a hot rush. As soon as we get release and delivery on the remaining Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet bikes the remaining bikes will ship at once. The minute the remaining containers arrive to our warehouse docks we will email you to let you know when to start checking your tracking number.

    Your bike will ship with the tracking number that was sent to you after you ordered. If you don't see that email, please check your spam folder. If you need to communicate with us regarding this order the best way is to reply to this email, or you can always call us at 904-249-2453. If you don't reach us between 9-5 EST just call back as we may be on the other line with a customer.

    OTHER GOOD NEWS: the outstanding containers include some Fat Bike wheels that will go on sale for Black Friday promo - including some 29er wheels that will work on Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet.

    We thank you for your business and most importantly your patience. We look forward to completing your order as soon as possible. Thanks for being a valued customer, you are saving hundreds with BikesDirect.com!

    Thanks,

    Order Processing Team at Bikes Direct

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    I haven't gotten either email yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neons97 View Post
    I haven't gotten either email yet.
    Just got my "sorry but yours is in customs" email.

    Oh well, I guess the waiting game continues. What does it matter in the grand scheme of things? What's another couple of weeks after all this waiting? I wish I hadn't gotten the call yesterday telling me that mine was on the way though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartzpad View Post
    Received an email from Bikes Direct just now saying that my 17.5" Red Sturgis Bullet is stuck in customs:

    Hi, thanks very much for your order with Bikesdirect.com. As you may have heard, some of the Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet arrived yesterday and began shipping. Unfortunately, as these were in several assorted containers, not all unloaded yesterday. Some containers were selected by U.S. customs to inspect.

    If you are receiving this email then your bike was on one of these containers. We have no control over customs, their timing, or work load. However, we have made it clear to our forwarder that the outstanding containers are a hot rush. As soon as we get release and delivery on the remaining Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet bikes the remaining bikes will ship at once. The minute the remaining containers arrive to our warehouse docks we will email you to let you know when to start checking your tracking number.

    Your bike will ship with the tracking number that was sent to you after you ordered. If you don't see that email, please check your spam folder. If you need to communicate with us regarding this order the best way is to reply to this email, or you can always call us at 904-249-2453. If you don't reach us between 9-5 EST just call back as we may be on the other line with a customer.

    OTHER GOOD NEWS: the outstanding containers include some Fat Bike wheels that will go on sale for Black Friday promo - including some 29er wheels that will work on Night Train Bullet, Night Train, Sturgis, and Sturgis Bullet.

    We thank you for your business and most importantly your patience. We look forward to completing your order as soon as possible. Thanks for being a valued customer, you are saving hundreds with BikesDirect.com!

    Thanks,

    Order Processing Team at Bikes Direct

    Yup I got the same one.......customs.....pffffft....

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    neons97.. thanks for the info on the bottom bracket crankset....deal

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    These containers are filled with goods destined for businesses that need to run and turn a profit so I doubt that customs holds the goods up for very long at all. I would think no more than a day. Otherwise, I feel like this could be a convenient way for BD to buy some time if shipments are a little late.

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    My previously voided shipping label just went active. It says scheduled delivery is for Monday. I ordered a 17.5 black NTB.

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    17.5 Night Train Bullet in Matte Black coming my way by Friday. My birthday is today. An updated shipping number is a great present!!!
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    Same bike and shipping situation. Monday... Damn. At least it's happening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewZorn View Post
    Same bike and shipping situation. Monday... Damn. At least it's happening!
    Yeah also got the dreaded held up by US Customs email. Patience is a virtue...pffft!
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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Murdered out XL NTB headed my way!

    Guess maybe I should cancel all of those flaming crates of poo I just sent to the Port of Houston?

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    I got the 'Stuck in Customs' Email but hoping it gets shipped out next week.
    The anticipation is killing me but I can still have fun on my FS bike!

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    My ups tracking info says my 19"Sturgis Bullet in Gunmetal Grey will be here tomorrow. Can't wait to put it together and take it for a ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by livewr06 View Post
    I got the 'Stuck in Customs' Email but hoping it gets shipped out next week.
    The anticipation is killing me but I can still have fun on my FS bike!
    Wish I had this option....cracked my chainstay a couple of weeks back so not bike for me.

    I was hoping to be on my bike much sooner. The "your bike shipped...oh wait, no it didn't" dance is not a lot of fun. Hoping that the customs hold isn't all that long and the bike is here in time to enjoy in no time.

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    UPS shows my bike is now at the distribution center near me!!! :-) Looks like tomorrow is a go! My handlebars were supposed to be here tomorrow too but now the tracking number says Saturday. :-{

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    Was it shipped Yesterday? That's preetty impressive!

    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    UPS shows my bike is now at the distribution center near me!!! :-) Looks like tomorrow is a go! My handlebars were supposed to be here tomorrow too but now the tracking number says Saturday. :-{
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tin Turtle View Post
    I was able to order an Old Man Mountain Phat Sherpa rack for the Night Train by calling and talking to the guys at OMM directly. They have to order a Roberts axle to make it work, and clamp mounts but it will ship to me I a couple of days. Looking forward to getting it and I will post how it goes once I get both the bike and rack. My bike has not shown any movement on the tracking number as of today.
    Thanks for the mention Tin Turtle. Looking forward to seeing your Night Train fully outfitted with Old Man Mountain racks and our thru-axle. Please do post up photos, we love seeing our customer's bikes.

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    I got the dreaded "your bike is stuck in customs" email.

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    With all these beautiful bikes shipping, is anyone unloading slightly used Boris's or FB4's?

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    OH NO! My UPS tracking now shows a big yellow "EXCEPTION" instead of out for delivery. It is at the distribution center 15 minutes away... :-( I will give it a while to update but if I don't see any movement by lunch I am calling big brown.

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    Just checked mine and it landed at their center 50 minutes away. It was scheduled to be here Monday but it may change to tomorrow!!!

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Is anyone else annoyed about the Fantom Pro 29 photo that shows up on the thread list for a thread about our beloved Sturgis and NT?

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    I can delete it if it is that annoying. Just trying to be helpful for the folks who wanted a view of silver. We should have plenty of silver pics soon to replace it by next week.
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    Whoo Hoo! Taking up a lot of space in my office:

    Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0173.jpgMotobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0174.jpgMotobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0175.jpg

    I will pull it out and take some more pics later but I drove my truck to work today so want to leave it in the box for the ride home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Is anyone else annoyed about the Fantom Pro 29 photo that shows up on the thread list for a thread about our beloved Sturgis and NT?

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    lol only on the taptalk app. It always pop up for some reason but helps separate from the other subscribed threads!

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    Mines out for delivery. Bailed work to wait on it, brewing to pass the time, winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    Whoo Hoo! Taking up a lot of space in my office:

    I will pull it out and take some more pics later but I drove my truck to work today so want to leave it in the box for the ride home.
    Sweet! How tall are you and what is your pant leg in seem? I'm btwn a large and xl, and not sure which to order. Can you weigh it too for us, please?

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    Grabbed some tools on lunch as I am not able to leave early (unexpected 4:30 meeting) so I am going to assemble and bring home on my bike rack. :-)

    Will have a weight soon, but will only be a bathroom scale weight. I am 6'3" tall and rode a L and XL Mukluk that has very similar geometry/sizing - I liked the way the XL felt better. My true inseam (floor to crotch) is 35" - not super long but I am very long in the torso so the smaller bikes feel a bit cramped - I used to like a size L but now at 43 years old my back likes the longer top tube, and I can run a short stem/wide bars vs the long stem I need on a size L (I have a 120mm stem on my L 29er and 20mm setback post and I like the fit but could use a touch more room).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    Grabbed some tools on lunch as I am not able to leave early (unexpected 4:30 meeting) so I am going to assemble and bring home on my bike rack. :-)
    When you have the time, can you report on exactly how much assembly has to be done, since BD seems to be a bit vague regarding this?

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    Looks like bars, seatpost and front wheel need to go on that's it. I'm doing mine later tonight. Box is in good shape though.

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    Threw it together so I can bring it home on my bike rack rather than the bed of my truck (it looks like rain tonight - YUK). Assembly took all of 15 minutes -

    Remove reflectors
    put front end wheel caps and rotor on
    Setup front brake (front caliper is not bolted to fork)
    Put in seat post
    Turn stem/fork 180 and adjust for angle (mine was a couple degrees off from straight)
    Attach bars
    remove plastic and paper wraps
    find a couple of those useless C clip things that hold on brake hoses - mine was missing a few but I did find them in the bottom of the box - Too bad I was using the box as my garbage for all the packing. That was the hardest part of the whole setup - that and you have to remove the caliper from the bracket to be able to bolt the caliper on the fork.

    Per my very scientific bathroom scale it weighs about 34lbs as delivered (less the reflectors). Sounds about right -the Night Train in the other thread was listed at 32lbs for a Large, this has heavier components and heavier tires and is an XL frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    Threw it together so I can bring it home on my bike rack rather than the bed of my truck (it looks like rain tonight - YUK). Assembly took all of 15 minutes -

    Remove reflectors
    put front end wheel caps and rotor on
    Setup front brake (front caliper is not bolted to fork)
    Put in seat post
    Turn stem/fork 180 and adjust for angle (mine was a couple degrees off from straight)
    Attach bars
    remove plastic and paper wraps
    find a couple of those useless C clip things that hold on brake hoses - mine was missing a few but I did find them in the bottom of the box - Too bad I was using the box as my garbage for all the packing. That was the hardest part of the whole setup - that and you have to remove the caliper from the bracket to be able to bolt the caliper on the fork.

    Per my very scientific bathroom scale it weighs about 34lbs as delivered (less the reflectors). Sounds about right -the Night Train in the other thread was listed at 32lbs for a Large, this has heavier components and heavier tires and is an XL frame.
    Great info, thanks!

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    Please let us know how it rides!

    Whats the frame really like as far as welds go and other such things?

    Other comments?

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    oooo 34 lbs. thats not bad at all. My NIght train i hope is sub 30 after the tubeless conversion. It will be lighter than my 29er FS. wtf!?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    oooo 34 lbs. thats not bad at all. My NIght train i hope is sub 30 after the tubeless conversion. It will be lighter than my 29er FS. wtf!?!!
    I am OK with 34lb - the seat and post are probably 2.5!!! Those are probably both going bye-bye tonight (I have a post for this bike, and I may steal my Ti rail Velo saddle that is supposed to be for my Bucksaw).

    I am hoping with the lightweight tubes and rim strips, bars, saddle and seatpost I am pretty darn close to the 30lb mark.

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    Some better pics: Nobody notice that in a couple of the pics I have the rear derailleur cable on the wrong side of the stem... I fixed it - I told you guys I threw it together quick! LOL Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0181.jpgMotobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0180.jpgMotobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0176.jpgMotobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0183.jpg

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    That's the 'matte' black? Really?

    - Nevermind, I'm dumb, you got the Sturgis.

    Even after ordering and everything, I'm still really annoyed by certain colors only being available for certain builds. It's all so confusing.

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    Yeah I would have liked a Sturgis Bullet in Matte Black (my Moto Fantom Pro 29er is that color).

    Welds look nice and clean -as I expected. :-)

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewZorn View Post
    That's the 'matte' black? Really?

    - Nevermind, I'm dumb, you got the Sturgis.

    Even after ordering and everything, I'm still really annoyed by certain colors only being available for certain builds. It's all so confusing.
    I don't think the sturgis bullet came in a black. That could in fact be the matte black.

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    Can someone pleae post up a picture of a 15" Bullet. This is killing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    I don't think the sturgis bullet came in a black. That could in fact be the matte black.

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    This is the Sturgis Bullet in the Gunmetalflakegrey. Really nice color - a lot cooler than I was thinking, but I still would have liked matt black. :-) Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread-img_0184%5B1%5D.jpg

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    Awesome, thanks for the pics and weight! Looks like a great bike, especially for the price.

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    There is no way customs is holding up a few shipping containers for that long. I think one of the boats sank and my Sturgis is gonna need scuba gear to retreive. I am jealous of all the the people getting their bikes already.

    34lbs for a XL with a Bluto and stock parts...pretty good. So my tubeless, rigid-fork, carbon bar, 50mm Kore stem, Thomson seatpost, and San Marco Aspide Ti saddle might get this thing around 30? Sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    Per my very scientific bathroom scale it weighs about 34lbs as delivered (less the reflectors). Sounds about right -the Night Train in the other thread was listed at 32lbs for a Large, this has heavier components and heavier tires and is an XL frame.
    I've been digging up the weights on the different components between the Sturgis and Night Train and this is what I came up with:

    Tires: 1355-1260 x 2 = 190 grams
    Brake set: 638-550 = 88g
    R. Derailleur: 290-250= 40g
    Shifters: 250-230= 20g
    TOTAL= 338 grams (.75 lbs)

    So, I would agree that your XL Sturgis weight seems accurate when compared to the Large Night Train in the other thread. Not much weight difference for $200. I doubt there is a noticeable performance difference in the shifters and rear derailleur. I know the brakes are a lot better, but I prefer Shimanos and can get a set for $100, and that would leave me with the Dracos for spares or to flip for more savings.

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    I'm 5'11" with a 33" inseam, I ordered a 17.5" medium. I just checked out some Fatboys and the salesman said he would never ever put me on a medium. My Sturgis is stuck in Customs, should I switch to a large?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartzpad View Post
    I'm 5'11" with a 33" inseam, I ordered a 17.5" medium. I just checked out some Fatboys and the salesman said he would never ever put me on a medium. My Sturgis is stuck in Customs, should I switch to a large?
    Only if it's Matte Black as I have a Matte Silver (17.5") in customs that I wouldn't mind having in Matte Black .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartzpad View Post
    I'm 5'11" with a 33" inseam, I ordered a 17.5" medium. I just checked out some Fatboys and the salesman said he would never ever put me on a medium. My Sturgis is stuck in Customs, should I switch to a large?
    It really depends on what you prefer, and how long your upper body is compared to your lower. I'm 6'3" and have very long legs (inseem 36" actual, 34" pant leg), broad shoulders, and relatively short arms. Because of my height, I end up between the Large and XL frame sizes for a lot of bikes. I find the fit is typically better for me on the smaller (large) frames, because of the shorter reach to the bars. If I go with a larger frame, I have to run a shorter length stem (like 70 vs 90mm). On frames with short chain stays (i.e, 440mm on a 29er), this can make the front end wander and loop out on steep climbs when seated, but with longer chain stays (455mm), this is not an issue. These fat bikes have long chain stays (460mm), so the front end should stay planted when climbing with a shorter stem. However, the XL frame has a pretty long wheelbase at 1170mm (longer than my 120mm full suspension 29er), which could make tight switchbacks more cumbersome, so I'm leaning towards the size large personally. I think I would be fine either way. With the long stems they spec'd on these bikes, I'm sure that will be the first thing I change anyways.

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    You dogs that have your night trains already. My black 19" has made it from Texas to Illinois, to N Wisc on Monday. Good thing I have to work this weekend and wouldn't have been able to ride. An inch of new snow this morning and more predicted for tommorrow. It will be a happy thanksgiving in Brule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartzpad View Post
    I'm 5'11" with a 33" inseam, I ordered a 17.5" medium. I just checked out some Fatboys and the salesman said he would never ever put me on a medium. My Sturgis is stuck in Customs, should I switch to a large?
    I have the same measurements and tested a Fatty or two of my pals. 19" felt right to me
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    Good job! NT in the house....

    Mr. UPS delivered as promised. Needless to say, I was kinda stoked...

    Figured some people might want additional pics (even if I only have the black, non-bluto...) A couple rubs on the paint from shipping, but everything came clean with a little clear coat safe compound.

    Also, did the same weighing technique as with luggage. (Typical scale, by yourself, then with luggage/bike in hand.) Came in at 34 lbs even. It's a digital scale, but... I'd still take it with a grain of salt. Definitely heavier than I had hoped for a Medium/17.5.
    - Regarding weight, here are the component tweaks I made:
    1. Old Thompson Elite seat post I had around
    2. Different WTB seat (guessing it's a couple grams lighter)
    3. DMR Flat Pedals (400g for the pair)
    4. ODI grips
    5. Hope seat post clamp

    So... probably not too much different than what others will weigh.

    Rides great. Minor tweaks on front caliber positioning. Shifting very clean. Definitely have to check the tire pressure though. They're like rocks.

    Tip: I was an idiot and promptly ignored the spacers that are literally tied to the front wheel. Put them on your hub before installing. (Keep the front caliper bolts loose before putting the front wheel on. Get the front wheel on, apply front brake pressure to set positioning, then tighten. I'm not an expert, so I guess people will correct my approach as necessary. But it worked like a charm for me. No tweaking of discs needed.)

    Looking forward to my first proper ride tomorrow.

    Hope everyone's bikes arrives in the same shape as mine.

    Yes, it looks bad, but it cleaned up with 10 seconds of clear coat safe compound.
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    Ooff, 34lbs, I was hoping for something closer to 30 for my large. Look at the tires on that fatboy, perfect. Keep us posted on how your first ride goes

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    I think you might be better off with a smaller frame and a setback seatpost to get more weight over the rear wheel. Fatbike veterans seem to think that is the biggest advantage of the fattires.

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    We need these bikes on real, calibrated scales

    The other thread claims 34lbs for an XL Sturgis Bullet (i.e. with Bluto)

    This thread claims 34lbs for a 17.5" NT, but with a lighter post, and nearly 1lb pedals. Putting this around 33.5lbs.

    The night train should be about 3/4 lb lighter than a sturgis. Bluto should add about 1.5lbs. M vs. XL frame should be worth at least 1/2 lb. So if the other thread is correct, a 17.5" NT stock should be 31-31.5 lbs. So about a 2-2.5lb discrepancy between the bathroom scale method, and the other guy's "pallet scale" method. Neither of which are overly accurate as the pallet scale probably isn't meant to weigh a 35lb mass with much accuracy.

    Then there's another claim that the guy's Sturgis Bullet is 32lbs for a 19". Which is the lightest we have seen. Taking the Bluto out, that would mean a Night Train (rigid) at about 29.75lbs for a 19". Account for 1/4 lb for the 17" and this would make it a 29.5lb Night Train. That's about 4 lbs different than the claim in this post.

    I think the moral is...we still don't know how much these things actually weigh.

    In any case, I had psyched myself up for 35 lbs. for my Night Train (rigid, 17.5"). So any or all of these weights will be welcomed. If we can get these to sub-30 with just a few upgrades, those carbon-forked Fatboy owners who have been saying "but ours are sub-30 lbs" will be silenced on the topic of weight.

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    Take my 35lb with a grain of salt - I do not own a scale (bathroom or otherwise) and my shipping clerk had left for the day by the time I got it assembled. Not sure our postage scale would have worked anyway - I know it will weigh 40lb boxes, but not sure how we would do a bike. I weighed it by standing on scale without bike, then with bike and then had another person do the same- the scale I used was close to max with me and the bike (300# max scale - me in street clothes with shoes and wallet showed 355 + 34 lb bike it was close to the max) - other person was only 170 before bike and both came to 34#. Scale was not digital though so not terribly accurate. :-)

    I have dumped some weight already - Velo ti rail saddle, FSA Gravity lite post and I am currently working on putting in a lightweight 2.4" Q tube and duct tape/caution tape rim strip.

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    all I am going to say is do yourself a favor , stop freakin out about weight, for those who have ridden fatbikes you ought to know what I am talking about. bike weight does not affect bushwacking or snow riding as much as you would think..

    for all of you who are waiting for their first one. sit back, chill, relax and stop fretting. you will dump a pile of money in to shave some grams to get it down sub 29....I'm saving my money for beer instead.
    my Pug with frame bag full and back rack and fender is an anchor,close to 41 lbs. but it storms around and terrorizes my area's singletrack. but still more fun to ride than my 25 lb. Kona Kina Kahuna hard tail...

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    My shipping # is still showing no movement! Aaaarrrgggghhh! Does customs really take a freakin week? What the heck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by twright205 View Post
    all I am going to say is do yourself a favor , stop freakin out about weight...
    Listen to this person. Between bike/gear/rider I'm hauling ~230lbs up the hill. Cutting 2lbs off the bike will make me 1% faster up hill. Meh. If you're into the weight weenie thing, buying a generic fat bike is like a vegan going to a Texas BBQ. Otherwise, ride and be happy. The lump of sweaty meat sitting on top of these bikes is the biggest factor in how fast it will go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manchvegas View Post
    My shipping # is still showing no movement! Aaaarrrgggghhh! Does customs really take a freakin week? What the heck!
    Container inspection at port during the holiday rush? Only if you're really lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    Listen to this person. Between bike/gear/rider I'm hauling ~230lbs up the hill. Cutting 2lbs off the bike will make me 1% faster up hill. Meh. If you're into the weight weenie thing, buying a generic fat bike is like a vegan going to a Texas BBQ. Otherwise, ride and be happy. The lump of sweaty meat sitting on top of these bikes is the biggest factor in how fast it will go.
    It's not enough to get a bike with a really nice build for hundreds less than bikes at the LBS. It's gotta be lighter too.

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    Mine showed up with a front broken spoke/nipple due to the crank arm being shipped in it, just how they do it I guess. Only got to ride it around in the yard and street a little. It rides lighter than whatever weight number you're going to see. The tires have some self steer in pavement but I'm not sure about psi, only get worse by lowering it. I'm still not sure why there's hub spacers in the front, why didn't they just make 150mm spaced fork to go with 150mm hubs? Sucks because I take my wheel off to transport, definetely gonna lose those spacers.

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    I just tried to switch from my 17.5" M Sturgis Bullet red to the 19" L Sturgis Bullet red and they say they do not have any left, but they did make a note in case any extras are found. Website shows them available but it isn't up to date.

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    Bud and Lou showed up last night. Now waiting for Bluto on the Train. Tracking shows he 'Departed' Texas yesterday... still no 'Scheduled Delivery' date posted. Should I be concerned?

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    Personally, I'm very pleased to see the initial reports for the weight of these bikes. I was worried that they would come in at 36+ pounds, after reading the preproduction model review on Singletracks. 32-34 lbs is excellent with the Bluto, and tells me the frame should be worth keeping. I agree that at this point, weight should no longer be a major concern.

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    Not too worried about the weight weenie thing, BUT if I am going to trick out my bike (and I have to mod any bike - even a $4K high end bike - I would have to add my touch to it) I am going to lighten weight at the same time. I know having bought a different Moto bike last year that the seat post and bars are fairly heavy and generic so I bought some better "Bling" ones. That and light weight tubes and lock on grips are the only mods for me until something breaks or I don't like the saddle. :-) Getting close to 30lbs is just a goal so I can say I got a $1300 fat bike that weighs the same as a $4K Fat Boy. My seat post and bars set me back less than $70 total (love BikeIsland and Nashbar clearance stuff!) and the seat post weighs about 1/2 what the stock one does and it is a great accent color.
    Waiting on my bars that will be here Saturday, then I can post some pics.

    The caution tape rim strip was a fail - the lettering is too big to see through the rim holes - you couldn't even tell they were words, it looked like a yellow rim strip with some of the holes not cut out right. Thankfully when I went to the store yesterday on my way home to buy duct tape to back up the caution tape I found this:



    Really like the batman logos as a rim strip. :-) Yellow seat post and yellow bars/grips. :-)

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    Re: Motobecane Sturgis / Night Train Thread

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    Nice. The knobs on those tires look pretty underwhelming. Are they larger or beefier in person? Looking at that, I am thinking I might need to get some better tires for snow riding and leave those for mud riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Nice. The knobs on those tires look pretty underwhelming. Are they larger or beefier in person? Looking at that, I am thinking I might need to get some better tires for snow riding and leave those for mud riding.

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    I've noticed this too after test riding a few different bikes this week. The Surly Nate tires were much knobbier than the Vee tires I rode on (Bulldozer, Mission). Though, The Bulldozer kinda reminded me of a huge Maxis Highroller, which isn't a bad thing.

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    I am also suddenly worrying about the tires after seeing pictures of the tread pattern. I'd almost rather not ride on them so I could still sell them and get a decent replacement set. How snow-specific do you think those are, with knobs that look more like studs in terms of size and spacing?

    My tires won't see much snow or sand action that would necessitate a fat bike. I mostly got this for a fun mountain bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Onestep4me View Post
    Bud and Lou showed up last night. Now waiting for Bluto on the Train. Tracking shows he 'Departed' Texas yesterday... still no 'Scheduled Delivery' date posted. Should I be concerned?
    Why would you be worried? It's in UPS's hands now. They aren't perfect, but are pretty reliable. The bike is out of Bikes Direct's hands now and is in the mail. This is good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    I might need to get some better tires for snow riding and leave those for mud riding.
    That's what I'm doing.

    Last week I rode with 3 other fat bikes. They had Missions (3.8), Snowshoes (4.5?), and Bud / Lou (4.8). There was not much size dif between the Missions and Snowshoes. Bud & Lou seemed HUGE in comparison, both overall size and tread height.

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