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    Moonlander and nates

    Stuck a set of surly Nate 26x4.0 on the moony on Friday, always wondered what they would be like on 100mm rims.

    These tires are awesome on my pugsley, unreal amounts of traction that no other tire can give, a true leap forward in fatbike technology.

    The pugsley now wears the 4.7" big fat larrys....they look small on the 65mm rims.

    First test was on Saturday, tackling the normal rocky single track then onto pebble and grit coastline before hitting a few 4x4 tracks, traction was great as I expected.

    Still lots of float on the sand, just a little slower than BFLs, but I have higher pressures in the nates, they really stretch out.



































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    Gave the bike a really good test today!

    Watched the tide come in like a tsunami, water levels rose a few feet in minutes, cutting off my normal route off the beach....as I followed the wave while riding alongside it on the sands.

    That meant a sticky, muddy bogfest to get onto solid land.

    No way would I of got through it without nates, just had a few metres to cut through before the smelly black dead weeds and mud clogged the gears fully....I reckon I only covered a 100 metres or so, nothing serious, but rideable all the same.

    Shame the frame and gears don't self clean like the tires do.
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    Nice! What pressure were you able to ride the Nates?
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    I have no idea what pressure I have in them, only have a hand pump where I am at moment.

    They are pretty hard though, and don't deform around rocks as well, I prefer running nates at higher pressures.
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    How wide do those measure up across the tread?
    Mine came out at 97mm on 80mm rims, interesting to compare with the wider rim
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    102mm on a RD.

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    102mm on a RD.

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    115mm on clown shoe, strangely the BFL is just 95mm on large marge!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saltyman View Post
    115mm on clown shoe, strangely the BFL is just 95mm on large marge!
    BFL on clownshoe, 110mm I have just measured them as the bike is sat here and I'm thinking of sticking the nates back on the moonlander.
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    Them Nate's look awesome on your moonlander.

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    Thanks for this saltyman, now I've seen nates on one of those I really need to talk myself out of ordering one. Now 20 inch or 22. My pug is 22 and fits fine
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    I have a 20" moonlander and 20" pugs, I'd be happy with 18" or 20" to be honest.....they are quite a roomy ride over all terrain.

    As for these tires, it's very strange how a 4.7" BFL tire is actually 4.3" on a 100mm rim and a 4.0" nate is 4.5" on the same rim though!
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    Here's a picture to show how much they stretch on 100mm rims.....

    I had a set of nates on the pugsley that I stuck onto the moonlander, but these are my unused nates as they come from the dealer.....they look so small, like regular mtb tires, as you can see.

    Disappointment soon becomes shock and awe when you stick 6-10psi in them though!

    Check it out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltyman View Post
    They are pretty hard though, and don't deform around rocks as well, I prefer running nates at higher pressures.
    Iím running mine at roughly 10psi on 65mm wide Large Marge rims, and they seem to deform around rocks quite nicely. Try letting some air out and report back with your findings, as I have no experience with those wide-ass rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Iím running mine at roughly 10psi on 65mm wide Large Marge rims, and they seem to deform around rocks quite nicely. Try letting some air out and report back with your findings, as I have no experience with those wide-ass rims.
    Will do, I'm back home now and away from my regular coastal riding, so thinking of a good place to test the bike out.

    When I last had the nates on the moonlander, I never adjusted pressures, just ran them over the same terrain as I did the BFL, handled as I expected, bounced around with higher pressure but grip was ridiculous.

    The thing I did notice, was when you get into boggy ground, the nate tires do there job, but the drivetrain will get clogged eventually, so still stopping you at some point.

    BFL would spin through the bogs, keeping slow progress until it clogged too, so both tires had there limits, but it's more of a gearing limit I found.
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    There you go again Saltyman getting me thinking about spending more money
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    Quote Originally Posted by bprsnt View Post
    There you go again Saltyman getting be thinking about spending more money
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha They got us good, don't they
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    Hey, don't blame me, blame fatbikes in general......this is why you and me read these pages!

    He he.....
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    Got the nates back on, no offroad riding due but wanted a beefier tire to protect me from all the rubbish on the local cycle paths here in the city.....

    Whacked a fresh new set on and 10psi, seems solid, there is a bit of bounce there however.

    The way the centre tread helps you roll along at decent speed is quite good, better than I expected on a 15 mile trip yesterday, corners need to be taken with caution though, kinda like cornering with endomorphs on Tarmac etc.
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    have around 140 miles on the road with my nates
    thing I like is that they do not kick up a rooster tail in a puddle like a roadie tire

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    they vibrate quite a bit so i guess my girlfriend will enjoy the bike now
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    have around 140 miles on the road with my nates
    thing I like is that they do not kick up a rooster tail in a puddle like a roadie tire

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    my moonlander with nates is one hell of a lot more comfortable than my hybrid with slicks, and both are heavy bikes so its a good workout what ever i ride....

    as a result after another wrist crushing 15 miles on the hybrid, i have stuck it in the shed and im using the moonlander for tomorrows cardio

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    hahahaha.........reminded me of my first ML ride that was on 25 miles of black label with friends they wanted a cardio workout on skinnies and there was no way I was going do that!
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