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    mongoose Vinson

    Black Friday sale at MS Sports will have the Mongoose Vinson for 449.99

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    Nice, was wondering when these would start showing up. Pretty excited about this one.

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    needless to say, its been one of the favorite ep bikes at the company the last couple weeks.
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    I also mounted up a Bulldozer 4.7 on the rear and Snowshoe XL on the front with clearance
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1324 View Post
    Black Friday sale at MS Sports will have the Mongoose Vinson for 449.99
    link? a google search of MS Sports brings up random sports oriented websites for the state of Mississippi (MS).

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    Hmm maybe I will road trip it on Black Friday, anyone have a link with all actual bike specs?

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    i would love to have specs on this as well. I got on mongoose bikes and didn't see any info on it.

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    I called Mc s and there are a few stores that have them in stock . I may go look at them today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skota23 View Post
    One size frame Medium
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    Why!!!
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    I am 5'11" 32 inseam the bike fits me well. I would shorten stem

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    I think I am gonna take a chance on this bike. The only things that I was not digging was the long stem and the front derailleur mount is some how mounted to the bottom bracket? I am not familiar with this setup. My plan is to buy this bike if i like fat biking I will spend the real coin in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarontriton View Post
    I am 5'11" 32 inseam the bike fits me well. I would shorten stem

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    Thats great that you fit their one size fits all model. I do not...enjoy
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    WTF is MC Sports? Never heard. The Mongoose website didn't have any fatbikes, and a google search yielded nothing.
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    The Vinson is new for 2015. I think MBA had a blur on it a few months ago. I went and saw the bike a few days ago looked decent.

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    I just got one. It seems pretty alright, especially at the price they have. The components are solid. It has a Sram rear derailleur and a Shimano front derailleur, 3 x 8 drivetrain. It's all basic stuff, but of good enough quality to last a number of years and be upgraded upon as needed. Nothing feels "junky" or like some the stuff you see at the big boxes when it comes to bike shaped objects. This is a bike shop quality bike at a good discount because Mongoose plays in that market.

    I took a good spin on it again on Sunday and I thought the bike out performed the rider, I thought the bike became predictable and sturdy, which came in handy for a big guy, riding on a snow covered trail for his first real ride on a fat bike. I know enough from mountain biking and cross country skiing to know how far you can push it on snow before it gives way and causes spin outs. With the 90 mm hubs and the 4" Vee tires, I got to give it enough mustard without losing traction to churn up the trail and I needed to exchange gears a couple times and the whole thing held together nicely.

    For the money, I think this bike is a no brainer. The frame is nice enough to upgrade on and it comes with a really workmanlike group of components.

    10/10 would buy again.

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    Thanks for the review. How did the Mission command tires do in the snow? How much snow?

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    The tires felt good as far as traction. I am still playing around with the whole tire pressure thing, but I started to feel confident riding harder into the berms and the bike felt good under me. I have a feeling that once I get the hang of it, I will be able to really push it on the downhills. The only knock I would have for the bike is that the stock stem is pretty long and unless you have a long torso, you'll probably want to replace it. I think that played into the fact that they only offered the bike in one size and they were trying to catch as many riders as they could with that. I am 5'9" with a 30" inseam and the bike fits me well with a shorter stem and the seat post flying about half mast. A smaller or larger rider could make it work with a few adjustments.

    There was about 2" of snow covering an intermediate to more difficult trail system. I didn't go off of any of the sweet jumps that they also have there, but I can always work my way up to that Eye of the tiger....

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    Thanks For the Update . I have sat on the bike and noticed the stem is Long . Are the handlebars a 31.8 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarontriton View Post
    Thanks For the Update . I have sat on the bike and noticed the stem is Long . Are the handlebars a 31.8 ?

    The bar is 31.8.

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    Thanks.

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    No problem

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    Can u say where u bought it and for how much? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbauer View Post
    Can u say where u bought it and for how much? Thanks.

    I actually got it through a friend that works for Mongoose as these had just come out. I paid really close to what MC Sports is going to have them on sale for, for Black Friday.

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    I bought mine through MC sports . Paid black Friday deal.

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    Thanks for the responses.

    So is the MC Black Friday price MC's regular price.

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    No It is black friday only they have them At $799 . My Local MC did not carry it in stock so they ordered it in. I will pay for it on Black Friday and get the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbauer View Post
    Thanks for the responses.

    So is the MC Black Friday price MC's regular price.
    I think the retail on it is $799. I biked with a guy that had one of the Motobecane Night Trains that he got from BikesDirect for $1400. That bike had a Rock Shox Bluto fork, which is a several hundred dollar part. I thought they were pretty similar beyond that though, quality wise, and I think their rigid fat bike is around $800, so the Vinson fits right in line with the market. At $450, I think it's a steal.

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    I agree it is a steal. I was all set to buy a framed Alaskan alloy for 1400 dealer can't get until February. So I came upon this deal and can't pass it up. I still may buy a higher end but this will tell me if I like it.

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    I got mine from the guy that designed it and I know his focus was on trying to put good quality components on it and keep it under 35 pounds and under $800. I think he nailed it.

    I am not sold on the idea of needing a better fat bike than this one. The idea of a performance fat bike seems like an oxymoron to me. The bike has easily upgradable parts and nobody is going to be too upset if they shear off a derailleur or tweaks a bottom bracket spindle. Just toss another one on and get back out there.

    This seems like a great way to just build up what you need, over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcthreadski View Post

    I am not sold on the idea of needing a better fat bike than this one. The idea of a performance fat bike seems like an oxymoron to me.
    Then you sir have never actually swung a leg over a quality fatty built for speed, don't knock it till you try it. I just want one of these for salt townie duties.

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    I haven't ruled that out. I agree the bike is worth upgrading. I will tweak small things and ride it. Like stem length and put some ergon grips on it.

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    See, this is how I end up with too many bikes.

    Do you remember the Bearstein Bears book
    "Ma Bear says Pa Bear has Too Many Bikes"?

    I starred as Pa Bear in that one

    We'll see, but I am going to walk before I run on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarontriton View Post
    I haven't ruled that out. I agree the bike is worth upgrading. I will tweak small things and ride it. Like stem length and put some ergon grips on it.

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    Well I agree this is bike 5 this year I bought a carbon devinci Troy a 29 er for my wife a custom built 26 er for my son a custom build 27.5 for my daughter and I have a framed mini sota on order for my son for Xmas. That will make #6 plus 3 other bikes sitting in my barn and I'm not done.

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    It's not a hover-bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarontriton View Post
    Well I agree this is bike 5 this year I bought a carbon devinci Troy a 29 er for my wife a custom built 26 er for my son a custom build 27.5 for my daughter and I have a framed mini sota on order for my son for Xmas. That will make #6 plus 3 other bikes sitting in my barn and I'm not done.

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    5 bikes per year is only sustainable for two years. Once you get beyond 10 bikes, it becomes a job if they all need service. I've had periods of my life where I was flooded with bikes and bike parts. At one point I had north of 100 in my yard.

    The fat bike is number 6 for me right now, and I am feeling the itch again for more. It's like a disease

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    Oh I know both kids are racing and I feel like a full time mechanic. It seems I am always working on a bike . I enjoy it but it can get overwhelming.

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    Just reserved one. They are holding it for us.
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    Nice!

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    Guy said he didn't think they'd sell out. Getting it for my dad. I just bought a Minnesota 3.0 bluto.
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    I'm sure your dad will love it.

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    MC Sports in Joliet, IL confirmed that they would have some on Friday but wasn't sure if they would be on sale on Thursday night too. Looking at the catalog site I guess they will be on sale from 6pm on Thanksgiving.

    They didn't have any on the floor but we were able to check out a Dolomite, hopefully the sizing is similar but it does look ok for my wife. She's usually a size up at 20" on MTB frames.

    We weren't able to reserve one, so hopefully we'll still be able to grab it on the day. $450 looks like a steal.

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    I reserve the bike at that store over the phone they're holding it for me you should be able to do the same
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    when I spoke with a manager at MC s He said they had 200 of this total for all stores.

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    Wow. I'm glad I jumped on it quick. I wonder if they will discount the other model.
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    Dick's has these at $579.99. Not a bad bike at that price if they run out of the 200 at MC Sports.

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    20% off today too, $550 shipped isn't terrible ($130 shipping??? minus $50 credit)

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    In my opinion, if it fits you, this is a Phenomenal deal at the sale price. For someone looking to try a fatty....nice choice with minimal investment. May grab one for the Mrs.
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    ANyone have the geo on this? Im about 5'7" - ride a medium Norco Sight for what its worth - I have no issue putting a 50mm stem (as I have one laying around) on it...

    will check my local DSG and see if they have one in store for fit - but not confident they will.

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    No Geo on it i emailed Schwinn/ Mongoose with no response as of yet. I can tell you i have a 32 inseam and stand over is around 30 . The stem is at least a 100 mm or longer i ordered a 70 mm for it .

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    Here y'all go! I think I'll go to Dick's and check it out.

    FEATURES:

    Navigate through all terrain with the Mongoose® Adult Vinson Mountain Bike. Equipped with a durable aluminum frame and 26 x 4 oversized wheels, the Vision delivers a high action ride whether you're biking on sand or snow. Features 24 speed Sram X4 drivetrain and dual disc mechanical brakes for crisp power and confident braking.

    Wheel Size: 26"
    Frame: Aluminum
    Fork: Aluminum
    Rear Shock: NA
    Headset: 1 1/8" A-Head
    Cranks: Alloy 170mm 22/30/40
    Bottom Bracket: 100mm sealed bearing Square taper
    Front Derailleur: Alivio E-Type
    Rear Derailleur: Sram X4
    Cog Set: 12-32 8spd
    Shifter: Sram X4
    Chain: Sram X4
    Hub (F): 135mm QR Alloy Disc
    Hub (R): 190mm QR Alloy Disc
    Spokes: Stainless
    Rims: 100mm Alloy with 35mm holes
    Tires: 26x4 Veerubber Mission Command 72tpi
    Brakes: 180mm front 160mm rear mech disc
    Brake Levers: alloy
    Pedals: resin platform
    Handlebar: Alloy 700mm with 31.8 clamp
    Grips: Mongoose
    Stem: Alloy
    Seat: Mongoose
    Seat Post: Alloy
    Extras: Colored rim strip
    Style: R7900
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    ^^ we had all of this info...people are looking for the geometry...(measurements if the frame)
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    Went and picked up the Vinson tonight road it around the yard. What a steal of a deal. This is a really fun bike. My main bike is a Devinci carbon troy and I have been mountain biking since the late 80's and this is a very solid bike. I will put some miles on it this weekend and do an update.

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    Our MC is to small to carry them so no luck here.

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    My Mac is to small. I called the store talked to manager and he got one from a bigger store. And it was to them in just a few days. May not be to late.

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    What area are you guys from
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    Southern Michigan for me.

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    I know the one in Joliet has more than one you could probably drive here and back and have it still cost less than the shipping would be if you were to get it and have them ship it
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    Keep us updated. Also, how heavy is it?

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    I told my SIL about this Wednesday and he called and reserved one. Supposed to pick it up at 6 tomorrow morning. Looks like I'll get to try one out!

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    Headed out to pick mine up right now I guess the Black Friday deals are good this evening as well
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    Re: mongoose Vinson

    Does this fit a bluto?
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    I do not believe so it is a straight 1 and 1/8 head tube

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    Wife is happy with hers. It's a well put together package and I'm extremely happy, especially for $<500.

    Only thing is I can't get the saddle adjustment bolt undone, and it came with the saddle at a terrible angle. That puppy is tight. I swapped it for another XX.Xmm post and saddle with no problem.

    Oh, the instruction manual for the disc brakes are only in Chinese, keeps things interesting

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    Do you mean 30.8 the seat post on mine is 30.6 odd size I had a nicer 30.9 and it was a smidge to big.

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    Re: mongoose Vinson

    So went on 6 mile ride with it today it was great fun but a lot more if a work out. I found the tires are OK at best especially in the front.mongoose Vinson-uploadfromtaptalk1417305959055.jpg

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    Folks do you think this will fit a bud and a Lou?
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    Not sure but I would like to know. The factory tires are fair at Best.

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    Re: mongoose Vinson

    Thoughts?
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    Looks like the front tire is on backwards

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    Yeah flipped for grip. Its short term anyway.
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    Re: mongoose Vinson

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    Re: mongoose Vinson

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    Suppose to flip the back one not the front one

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    I'm really hoping to get one for the lady, she was riding the Dolo this weekend and said "I like it, but would like something a little lighter" the Vinson comes in 15lbs less, so as soon as *****sportinggoods goes back to free shipping, I'm getting one.







    Compared to the last few pics, the Dolo seems to have a little more frame/fork clearance for tires!










    P.S. I posted in the other thread, but the US planetx website is having a sale on On-One floater snow tires. 120tpi only $54 each free shipping. Usually the colors are cheaper, but seems to be a deal this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x3speed View Post
    Yeah flipped for grip. Its short term anyway.
    can you please measure the effective top tube?

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    17" frame 23.3 effective top tube

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    Have a lou and bud on order. Nervous they wont fit.
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    I thought it only came in one size - 18"

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    Re: mongoose Vinson

    Mongoose killed it with this bike. Prettier in person. What a steal at 450. My Dad is like a kid in a candy store with this bike . Hilarious.
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    Re: mongoose Vinson

    Booty
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    I agree the bike is better looking in person . i am getting used to riding it went 8 miles yesterday with my 10 yr old son, The bike is more of a work out then i am used to. Trying to keep up with my son on his 23# 26 er . Did i mention he is state champion this year for Mi schoolastic cycling 10 and under. Well he kicks my butt. The Vinson is a blast though and my son wants one bad. I Have a Framed Mini Sota 24" ordered for him hope it gets here for X-mas

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarontriton View Post
    I agree the bike is better looking in person . i am getting used to riding it went 8 miles yesterday with my 10 yr old son, The bike is more of a work out then i am used to. Trying to keep up with my son on his 23# 26 er . Did i mention he is state champion this year for Mi schoolastic cycling 10 and under. Well he kicks my butt. The Vinson is a blast though and my son wants one bad. I Have a Framed Mini Sota 24" ordered for him hope it gets here for X-mas
    Yah, it is definitely a workout

    I rode it on untracked snow that was about 5" deep on Thursday. I think I figured out the tire pressure for riding on snow, but when I got back on the pavement to ride home, it felt like I was driving an old farm tractor. I went to a spot with more advanced trails on Saturday though and those had been ridden by someone else earlier. Man, what a blast! This bike is so much fun on rolling singletrack and once you get a feel for how the bike turns and reacts on packed snow, it's awesome. Gotta be careful to stay on the packed stuff though as going off of those gets dicey, right away, especially on the downhills. I didn't crash though, so I had that going for me .

    The guy I went with had knobbier tires, but in his estimation, technique trumps tires when it comes to staying on the bike. The climbs are slow, but if you learn how to position your weight, you can grind up some pretty steep inclines.

    Overall, I am still pretty impressed with the bike and I think it's a ton of fun!

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    anyone here in the 5' 7" height range?

    Guessing with a short stem I'd be ok from what Im seeing/reading... just curious as there are none in local market - so if I do pull the trigger - its a web buy via d!c%$sportinggoods

    thanks in advance

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    i am thinking of trying to set this up tubeless . Any one tried it yet?

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    I'm 5'8" and put a 80mm stem on it and like it.
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    Put a 80mm on for my short 5 7 father and slid the seat forward. Fits him fine. Working on tubeless. I'm either doing split tube presta or Schrader. Tape was annoying. Tires are loose, so a compressor is a must. Anyone try fatter tires?
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    Do you think the Vinson will handle a 330# rider for paved trails.I'm also interested in the Argus but have little information as of yet.

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    I am 230 # and no sign of weakness in the bike I would put better pedals on .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Looks like the front tire is on backwards
    MC near me installed the forks backward on their bikes, cables all jacked.
    At least they had the brakes and derailleurs adjusted decently.

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    Yeah that's why I took mine home in the box they were curious why I wouldn't let them build it and I said well I've been a bike mechanic for a number of years I'll take care of it at home. You never know who's putting that thing together
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    Quote Originally Posted by aarontriton View Post
    Do you mean 30.8 the seat post on mine is 30.6 odd size I had a nicer 30.9 and it was a smidge to big.
    The battery in my calipers is dying but I'm 99% sure it's 30.4mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by x3speed View Post
    Yeah that's why I took mine home in the box ... You never know who's putting that thing together
    ...then riding it around the store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojoB View Post
    The battery in my calipers is dying but I'm 99% sure it's 30.4mm
    Post is stamped 30.6.
    First major disappointment with spec I've found.
    Why not 30.9?

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    My Local Mc Sports contracts a bike shop mechanic put it together . They would not let me put it together myself. I will say That I was concerned but he did a fine job.

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    MC did not fight me on it. But it was crazy busy when I picked it up.
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