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    Mongoose Beast review etc.... Walmart Fatty!


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    Nice write up. How is the gearing as is? Pretty typical for cruiser or slightly higher for climbing?

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    the gearing is steep- I could re-gear a bit easier or leave it. I ride 2:1 or harder ratio on a 29er even for hilly trails for a frame of reference.

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    ...pretty sure those are the same tires TommiSea sells...sans skulls...
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    Nice man, Can you post the pictures on here. So awesome!

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    my pictures are too large and I edited/posted from home on my way out the door to work. Feel free to resize them and post them so long as you put some disclaimer that they are mine.

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    Thanks for the write up, looks solid enough for me.

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    What's the width on the rear hub? Is it 135 or 170mm?

    Nevermind, I should have read closer. I see that it's 170mm. Too bad. If it was 135mm, I was thinking this could be converted to a geared townie with a nexxus hub

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    Looks even better then I thought it would.

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    just use the 3speed hub from sturmey archer... ist the same gearing to the nexus 3 speed... set the fist gear for climbs and the rest will fit pretty fine...

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    damn jealous.. way fatter than my pugs.. i'll trade you

    btw the saddle makes a huge difference.. just appearance wise, the bike looks way better without that cruiser saddle

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    Naysayers should now weigh-in, and tell you how B.A.D. your choice is.

    Thanks for the write-up, 2silent !!

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    Are you sure that frame is aluminum? Looks steely to me, and the wally description says so too.

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    the weld realy so look more like steel welds than aluminium welds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Naysayers should now weigh-in, and tell you how B.A.D. your choice is.
    Nay! Nay, say I!
    How is this any better than the $129 "mountain bikes" that they sell at Walmart?
    I wouldn't trust riding it off a 5" curb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Nay! Nay, say I!
    How is this any better than the $129 "mountain bikes" that they sell at Walmart?
    I wouldn't trust riding it off a 5" curb.
    +1!

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    How sealed is the rear hub? I've never seen a nicely sealed SS coaster brake hub. Have fun rebuilding it every few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibor View Post
    just use the 3speed hub from sturmey archer... ist the same gearing to the nexus 3 speed... set the fist gear for climbs and the rest will fit pretty fine...
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    Widening a alfine 35 mm is easy from what I uderstand, and it is a steel frame so cold setting it in a bit wouldn't be a problem either. Next paycheck I'm gonna own one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpy69 View Post
    Widening a alfine 35 mm is easy from what I uderstand
    You mean 135? And you want to widen an Alfine to 170?

    I haven't heard of that being done - I don't know why it would be easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpy69 View Post
    The 185mm spec is the total axel length, not enough protrusion to use axel nuts with a 170mm (inside) width frame. The Hub OLD measurment on these is 132mm (to work with either 130 or 135mm with only minimal frame spreading).

    Cold-setting the w-goose steel rear down to 135mm would likely mess up the chainline unless you did it asymetrically, in which case the spoke dishing would be very un-even unless you also re-drilled new asymetric spoke holes in the rim to compensate.

    I dont know about widening an alfine, but widening a S-A hub requres buying a new and relativly expensive axle.

    Seems like using a IGH designed for 170mm OLD would be much better way to start-off.

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    There is a 170mm OLD Sturmey-Archer but it's a 3 speed.

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    (I haven't used it - decided not to go ahead with 170mm OLD bikes - too many limitations and heavier and more expensive parts)
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    I got mine today and the gearing needs to be replaced. Other than that there are gonna be a lot of new fat bikers out there, it's a hit for $200.
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    I wonder how much just a tire is and can you buy just a tire?

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    Can one of you guys throw one of them "expensive" fat tire on the mongoose? Maybe a Bud + Lou combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripower View Post
    I wonder how much just a tire is and can you buy just a tire?
    LOL, just in case Surly doesn't come through.
    Someone mentioned earlier that Mongoose sells the tire for 30 bucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    LOL, just in case Surly doesn't come through.
    Someone mentioned earlier that Mongoose sells the tire for 30 bucks
    Yep, when I called mongoose last week, 800 number on page 2 or 3 of the dept store thread. Tires are 32bucks. tubes 9 bucks.
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    If you played with the chain line you old in the stays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    If you played with the chain line you old in the stays.
    ???

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    Can someone who got thiers armor all the tires and send me a pic please.
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    What size seat post does it use? I am looking at one of the Orign8 quill to threadless stem adapters run a different bar and stem combo....anyone use one before? Mongoose better stock up on tires, my guess is at 30 bucks they are gonna sell a lot, considering how much Surly is ripping people off for theirs.

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    Mongoose/PC Customer Service to order tires.....800-626-2811. I'm hopeing they will sell spare parts to, like the rim hoops. Frame. LOL I gotta call and ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpy69 View Post
    Widening a alfine 35 mm is easy from what I uderstand
    I'm not sure where you heard that, but it's not true as far as I know. There are quite a few people here who wish it was...

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    Them tires are do do. I'm swapping them out for some black Floyd's. The stock bars are too narrow for the step head tube angle and it's way twitchy. It's also a bit cramped in the cockpit. A longer stem is on order. I have an adapter so I will try some different bars out. I don't think the moto style of bars help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    Them tires are do do. I'm swapping them out for some black Floyd's. The stock bars are too narrow for the step head tube angle and it's way twitchy. It's also a bit cramped in the cockpit. A longer stem is on order. I have an adapter so I will try some different bars out. I don't think the moto style of bars help.

    Just some og .02
    Tires look like 4.0 in the photos. Why are they bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon View Post
    I'm not sure where you heard that, but it's not true as far as I know. There are quite a few people here who wish it was...
    It was something I read, a how to do manual thread/blog. I didn't pay much attn at the time,I've been trying to find it for the past 2 hours.
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    Found a video on youtube if you guys want other views of it. Tires actually look really nice. 4.25 inches.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeO1vi9p1T4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon View Post
    Tires look like 4.0 in the photos. Why are they bad?
    Probably because they cost 32 dollars and I'm sure have the consistency of soft plastic?

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    Re: Mongoose Beast review etc.... Walmart Fatty!

    I must say, I'm glad they kept the bike simple. One of the biggest problems with department store "mountain bikes" is that they hang tons of crappy components all over the bike. Pogo stick forks, crappy "Shimano" indexed shifters and derailleurs, etc. This increases the number of potential problems (with components this cheap, there WILL be problems) and lowers the overall quality of the finished product.

    With this, maybe it will be a bit more reliable since they followed KISS.

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    Re: Mongoose Beast review etc.... Walmart Fatty!

    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    Them tires are do do. I'm swapping them out for some black Floyd's. The stock bars are too narrow for the step head tube angle and it's way twitchy. It's also a bit cramped in the cockpit. A longer stem is on order. I have an adapter so I will try some different bars out. I don't think the moto style of bars help.

    Just some og .02
    So it begins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Probably because they cost 32 dollars and I'm sure have the consistency of soft plastic?


    there is nothing wrong with the tires... do you work for qbp by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2silent View Post
    there is nothing wrong with the tires... do you work for qbp by any chance?

    lol. Think he'd tell us honestly if he did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpy69 View Post
    It was something I read, a how to do manual thread/blog. I didn't pay much attn at the time,I've been trying to find it for the past 2 hours.
    If you find it, you will make quite a few 170mm frame owners very happy.

    Bighit, are the rims single wall or double wall?

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    anyone have decent quality pictures of the red or blue ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    lol. Think he'd tell us honestly if he did?
    Living in New Ulm, MN, over 1 1/2 hours south... so don't think so. I wish I did, but no. I can however ride on trails in New Ulm rain or shine and don't have to answer to anyone about closures or "too wet to ride". I also have to blaze a lot of my own trails through the snow... so I understand how a bike like this will never make it on "all terrain" like Wal-mart decided to use in the description and every blog post online is now hyping it up as. Sorry, you are going to be sorely disappointed if you buy one thinking you will be able to go and do the same things as a legitimate fat bike.

    I heard a saying many years back that has always held true: "If you buy the best or the right thing first, you won't have to buy it over and over again"

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    to me it looks like something fun to cruise the town on....hit a couple bars, take a roll down by the beach sort of thing

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    Now they need to make a Junior Beast for my 8 year old. My son is too short for the XS frames. The Beast could be raced in the coaster brake races out in California. It must be hard to wheelie at 48 pounds.

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    Does anyone know the dimensions of the seat post? I am hoping it is 27.2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvm051 View Post
    Does anyone know the dimensions of the seat post? I am hoping it is 27.2...
    Seiosuly doubt that, a 1-1/8" seattube needs 0.6mm tube wall to utilize a 27.2mm peatpost. Steel bikes using 27.2mm seatpost have high strength CrMo steel. If you were to go that thin with cheap high-carbon steel, the frame would crack even faster than a puglsey seat cluster.

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    They are not the spider thread pattern. They are the other ones they make sans the skulls, but they are like rocks. They are the lowest quality fat tire I have ever seen, it its ok because the bike was $200. All I'm saying is don't run out and buy them thinking you are getting a high quality tire like the others out there. It's $30 for a reason.

    Do I work for qbp, I wish. Just an OG fat biker from the original purple pug days.

    Tomorrow I will swap the tires out and weigh them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvm051 View Post
    Does anyone know the dimensions of the seat post? I am hoping it is 27.2...


    28.6, from the other thread.

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    My red one showed up today.

    Didn't have time to assemble, but looked it over. A few facts:
    - my Mona Lisa refrigerator magnet sticks to it, so it must be steel
    - no bottle cage braze-ons
    - gearing: 36 front, 18 rear
    - triangle interior dimensions: 20 7/8 inches by 11 inches by 24 7/8 inches
    - the red looks pretty nice
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    from the ratrodbikes forum...
    ...and the driver stated he is 5'9" tall...(i dont know how much this is in cm) and iam to lazy to calculate at the moment...
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    I'll likely be drilling my rims, changing tubes, removing stickers etc. tomorrow. I'll get a new weight.

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    I put mine together last night. It was poorly packaged, but the frame is not scratched. The headset was way too tight. So was the front hub. And the chain was as tight as a guitar string. I expected problems, so no worries.

    Took it for a ride. Whoever said red bikes were fastest were wrong! 36/18 gearing on this thing is just too darn hard. I went 13.5 flat miles on pavement and averaged 9 miles per hour. I slowed down for the many puddles in order to stay dry. I might have averaged 10 mph if I hadn't.

    I'm 6'2". The seatpost is out as far as it can go, and the seat is all the way back. I rotated the bars forward to spread things out. The bike is still too small for me. A longer seat post (Amazon.com: Kalloy 28.6 X 400mm Black: Sports & Outdoors) and a riser quill stem (Universal Cycles -- Kalloy Riser Quill Stem) and some bars from the parts box might solve the problem. And the gearing has to change. I'll have to figure out how to make that happen.

    I went into this with my eyes wide open, so I'm not complaining. But there might be a red one for sale soon.
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    I would probably fit it with a 24t rear cog and accept that this is the wrong bike for trying to go any faster than 5mph.

    Larry- the kalloy post you linked to has zero setback. It will get you sitting up higher but also further forward. I would find another post with a long setback to fit you to better, this will also help extend the saddle to bars reach distance.

    I am curious to see a close-up picture of the crankset and a confirmed measurment of the bottom-bracket shell width.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
    I am curious to see a close-up picture of the crankset and a confirmed measurment of the bottom-bracket shell width.
    Do these help? If not, I can try again if you give me more specifics about what you'd like to see.
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    How about a full pic of that Red?I got one coming and I haven't seen a decent pic of red yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houndog45 View Post
    How about a full pic of that Red?
    As you wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Endomorph View Post
    Do these help? If not, I can try again if you give me more specifics about what you'd like to see.

    Thanks! Very wierd that they decided to forge ahead with an entirely new 110mm wide bottom bracke shell standard. Is this something derived from the bizzaro chopper bike world? THat will complicate an easy crank&bottom bracked upgrade for a lot of owners. I suppose you could probably cut & face the shell back to 100mm standard.

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    Thanks Larry!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
    I would probably fit it with a 24t rear cog and accept that this is the wrong bike for trying to go any faster than 5mph.

    Larry- the kalloy post you linked to has zero setback. It will get you sitting up higher but also further forward. I would find another post with a long setback to fit you to better, this will also help extend the saddle to bars reach distance.

    I am curious to see a close-up picture of the crankset and a confirmed measurment of the bottom-bracket shell width.
    you could also grab one of these (Amazon.com: Origin8 1-1/8" Threaded to 1-1/8" Threadless Quill Stem Adapter: Sports & Outdoors) and have your pick of all the threadless stems too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
    Thanks! Very wierd that they decided to forge ahead with an entirely new 110mm wide bottom bracke shell standard. Is this something derived from the bizzaro chopper bike world? THat will complicate an easy crank&bottom bracked upgrade for a lot of owners. I suppose you could probably cut & face the shell back to 100mm standard.
    The "standard" they used is the old cup&cone/square taper system. The only unique parts are the shell and the axle. They picked that width to get the chainline they wanted with the off their shelf crankset they used.

    And yes, you'll have to trim it to run a 100mm external BB set. If Profile would make a longer axle, that could work nicely. Longest is 175mm(6 7/8"), but that wasn't enough to clear Fatback chainstays.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Tire clearance ... Can someone measure the frame/fork, and post some numbers.

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    Will it take a Bud & Lou combination, or is it a bit to narrow for that set of tires ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester View Post
    The "standard" they used is the old cup&cone/square taper system. The only unique parts are the shell and the axle. They picked that width to get the chainline they wanted with the off their shelf crankset they used.

    And yes, you'll have to trim it to run a 100mm external BB set. If Profile would make a longer axle, that could work nicely. Longest is 175mm(6 7/8"), but that wasn't enough to clear Fatback chainstays.
    Good ... Cranks are everywhere for that old system ... Single/double/triple ... Got a few in a box, somewhere.

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    quick question....don't know much about headsets and forks, but is it possible to change the headset to a threadless (1 1/8) and put a different fork on it? the reason being is that I'd like to have at least a second brake on it rather than just relying on the coaster brake ( if it is possible, I'd be cannibalizing my half fat commuter ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalbo View Post
    ..is it possible to change the headset to a threadless (1 1/8) and put a different fork on it? the reason being is that I'd like to have at least a second brake on it ...
    You could put a drum brake on it. They don't need the disk mounts.
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    I'm following this thread up.
    I laughed about this bike before, but now...
    I too might get one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Will it take a Bud & Lou combination, or is it a bit to narrow for that set of tires ?
    Wouldn't this be the equivalent of throwing VOLKS on a 88 honda civic?

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    Should be able to take the fork off, remove the old cups from the frame, press in cups for the threadless set and install the headset with your new fork.


    Quote Originally Posted by kalbo View Post
    quick question....don't know much about headsets and forks, but is it possible to change the headset to a threadless (1 1/8) and put a different fork on it? the reason being is that I'd like to have at least a second brake on it rather than just relying on the coaster brake ( if it is possible, I'd be cannibalizing my half fat commuter ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Will it take a Bud & Lou combination, or is it a bit to narrow for that set of tires ?
    Wouldn't this be the equivalent of throwing VOLKS on a 88 honda civic?
    NOPE !!!
    It'd be like converting a Moonlander to SS, and saving over 2 GRAND in the process.

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    man, it's a shame they had to go and lengthen the stays for a kickstand when they have the wide BB to give it nice short stays if they had wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    man, it's a shame they had to go and lengthen the stays for a kickstand when they have the wide BB to give it nice short stays if they had wanted to.
    Just be glad they didnt copy the TommiSea chainstay length! The fatgoose actually manages to look much better overall. I predict that TommiSea sales are about to take a huge plunge

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    Mongoose Beast review etc.... Walmart Fatty!

    I can't wait to see someone pimp one of these thing out 'cause you know it's coming. Subscribed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalbo View Post
    quick question....don't know much about headsets and forks, but is it possible to change the headset to a threadless (1 1/8) and put a different fork on it? the reason being is that I'd like to have at least a second brake on it rather than just relying on the coaster brake ( if it is possible, I'd be cannibalizing my half fat commuter ).
    For the cheapskate DIY approach, you could keep the fatgoose fork and braze on either cantilever mounts or a disk caliper tab. Cantilevers would be cheapist method since you could retain the existing front wheel/hub that lacks disk mount.

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    Re: Mongoose Beast review etc.... Walmart Fatty!

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    NOPE !!!
    It'd be like converting a Moonlander to SS, and saving over 2 GRAND in the process.
    I'm glad you're jazzed up about your mongoose, butI think you may be taking this a little too far...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
    For the cheapskate DIY approach, you could keep the fatgoose fork and braze on either cantilever mounts or a disk caliper tab. Cantilevers would be cheapist method since you could retain the existing front wheel/hub that lacks disk mount.
    Or use drum brakes - nothing needs to be brazed on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBeing View Post
    I can't wait to see someone pimp one of these thing out 'cause you know it's coming. Subscribed.
    Post your ideas ... I'm open to suggestions, as long as it's not crazy expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
    For the cheapskate DIY approach, you could keep the fatgoose fork and braze on either cantilever mounts or a disk caliper tab. Cantilevers would be cheapist method since you could retain the existing front wheel/hub that lacks disk mount.
    Fab wise ... It would be easier to buy a cheap, but good disc hub, and widen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    I'm glad you're jazzed up about your mongoose, butI think you may be taking this a little too far...

    Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2
    Trust me ... The comments are mainly directed at those who are cringing over the fact that they spent thousands more.
    I'm a cheap bastard

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    I think it looks like it would be a fun bike to cruise around at the beach on. Might have to pick one up!
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    Re: Mongoose Beast review etc.... Walmart Fatty!

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Trust me ... The comments are mainly directed at those who are cringing over the fact that they spent thousands more.
    I'm a cheap bastard
    I seriously doubt anyone who bought a Moonlander is kicking themselves over this bike. They really have nothing in common.

    That's like saying people who bought a Cannondale CAAD10 are wishing they had bought this bike instead: http://mobile.walmart.com/m/phoenix;...Large/12080282

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    The reason this is coming up here repeatedly is because this bike is much much closer to a Moonlander than any previous walmart bike was to anything. Also, because the fat "niche" is very much about having fun and the existing bikes really have no "special" technology. It was a niche that needed a kick in the ass (or maybe 3 or 4...)


    I've also switched to a 21t cog out of my parts bin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    That's like saying people who bought a Cannondale CAAD10 are wishing they had bought this bike instead: Walmart Mobile

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2silent View Post
    The reason this is coming up here repeatedly is because this bike is much much closer to a Moonlander than any previous walmart bike was to anything. Also, because the fat "niche" is very much about having fun and the existing bikes really have no "special" technology. It was a niche that needed a kick in the ass (or maybe 3 or 4...)


    I've also switched to a 21t cog out of my parts bin
    YEP ... Half the threads started as ***** about the new kid.

    Exclusivity (niche) has become mainstream, via WallyWorld.

    Good kick, IMO ... And needed.
    QBP and the rest of them can either cut their margin/close their doors, or stay over-priced, and watch the Chinese/Taiwanese Connection eat their market.

    Rolex vs Timex

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Fab wise ... It would be easier to buy a cheap, but good disc hub, and widen it.
    Just use a cheap singlespeed disc rear hub. Since the IS tab has to be brazed on, front/rear rotor spacing isn't an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    YEP ... Half the threads started as ***** about the new kid.

    Exclusivity (niche) has become mainstream, via WallyWorld.

    Good kick, IMO ... And needed.
    QBP and the rest of them can either cut their margin/close their doors, or stay over-priced, and watch the Chinese/Taiwanese Connection eat their market.

    Rolex vs Timex
    Seriously? You actually believe this? Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpy69 View Post
    Been eyeballing a Jeep Comanche bike to. You think there all wheel drive? He He

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon View Post
    Just use a cheap singlespeed disc rear hub. Since the IS tab has to be brazed on, front/rear rotor spacing isn't an issue.
    If I'm gonna put a disc on it, I might as well go for at least 7 gears, and do it all at the same time.

    Gotta wait for delivery, first ... Then assess what is worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon View Post
    Seriously? You actually believe this? Wow.
    The ***** part, or the margin cutting part ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    If I'm gonna put a disc on it, I might as well go for at least 7 gears, and do it all at the same time.

    Gotta wait for delivery, first ... Then assess what is worth doing.
    He was talking about the FRONT brake, not the rear. I was suggesting a cheap rear (135mm) disc hub for the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    The ***** part, or the margin cutting part ?
    Both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    YEP ... Half the threads started as ***** about the new kid.

    Exclusivity (niche) has become mainstream, via WallyWorld.

    Good kick, IMO ... And needed.
    QBP and the rest of them can either cut their margin/close their doors, or stay over-priced, and watch the Chinese/Taiwanese Connection eat their market.

    Rolex vs Timex
    You're going into Crazyville here. What you say makes no sense at all. QBP owns Surly, Salsa, Civia, All City, and more. They've been in the bicycle business for years, selling non-fatbikes too, competing in the open market.

    As much as I think their tires are overpriced, their lights aren't going to be shut off because Walmart came out with a BSO with big tires. Real competition in the fatbike segment will come from real bicycle companies like Kona, and big players like Specialized and Trek, not department store BSO's.

    If anything, the Walgoose just shows how good the Pugsley and Mukluk bikes really are, not the other way around.
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    100 mm rims

    Anyone know anything about the rims? Manufacturer? Weight? Exact width?

    They are about the only part on this bike that might be of interest to me since they are 36 hole (like my set of Hadley hubs) and are single wall (better for drilling and hopefully lighter than the double wall Chopper/Weinmann rims I'm currently running).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon View Post
    Both.
    Well, truth be told,
    The *** is strictly speculation, but the second part ... Yea, I believe it.

    If these businesses didn't anticipate that their non-patented ides would someday be utilized within a mass-marketing campaign to steal the market ... That's their problem to deal with.

    How much did a computer cost in 1992, and what kind of features did it have ?
    How about 2002 ... Mass production is a determining factor of consumer appeal.

    This is primarily because mass production is an affordable way to see a profit, and still deliver a lower cost than a competitor who is unable or unwilling to enter the mass production market.

    So yea,
    QBP and it's partners are going to be forced to either reduce their costs, limit their sales, both, or just drop their line of FatBikes ... Wait till version 2 arrives, and is based on the understanding of what people are actually going to be doing with this bike.

    Wait for TREK/NASHBAR, or some other big name to jump on the Fat Tire bandwagon (Raleigh comes to mind), and the see what happens to the price of a Moonlander and it's highly overpriced market value.

    Sorry !!!
    But I've been waiting for a FB to hit Walmart ... A $500-800 bike shouldn't cost $2500 dollars, just because a few companies have been maikng them for a decade, and no one else is willing to supply the consumer.

    That appears to have changed ... IBM figured it out.
    Will Salsa/Surly ?
    That's the real question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoobytao View Post
    Anyone know anything about the rims? Manufacturer? Weight? Exact width?

    They are about the only part on this bike that might be of interest to me since they are 36 hole (like my set of Hadley hubs) and are single wall (better for drilling and hopefully lighter than the double wall Chopper/Weinmann rims I'm currently running).
    I saw a report somewhere that the fatgoose uses weinmann rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Well, truth be told,
    The *** is strictly speculation, but the second part ... Yea, I believe it.

    If these businesses didn't anticipate that their non-patented ides would someday be utilized within a mass-marketing campaign to steal the market ... That's their problem to deal with.

    How much did a computer cost in 1992, and what kind of features did it have ?
    How about 2002 ... Mass production is a determining factor of consumer appeal.

    This is primarily because mass production is an affordable way to see a profit, and still deliver a lower cost than a competitor who is unable or unwilling to enter the mass production market.

    So yea,
    QBP and it's partners are going to be forced to either reduce their costs, limit their sales, both, or just drop their line of FatBikes ... Wait till version 2 arrives, and is based on the understanding of what people are actually going to be doing with this bike.

    Wait for TREK/NASHBAR, or some other big name to jump on the Fat Tire bandwagon (Raleigh comes to mind), and the see what happens to the price of a Moonlander and it's highly overpriced market value.

    Sorry !!!
    But I've been waiting for a FB to hit Walmart ... A $500-800 bike shouldn't cost $2500 dollars, just because a few companies have been maikng them for a decade, and no one else is willing to supply the consumer.

    That appears to have changed ... IBM figured it out.
    Will Salsa/Surly ?
    That's the real question.
    Sorry, not worth the time to dignify something this out-to-lunch with a response. I am done. You get the last word!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
    I saw a report somewhere that the fatgoose uses weinmann rims.
    I don't think Weinmann makes single wall 100mm rims, and Weinmann's website doesn't show any 100mm single wall rims. I am familiar with their double wall rims, but the photo of the Beast with drilled rims clearly shows the the Fatgoose has single wall rims.

    So where do these mysterious new rims come from?

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