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    Mongoose Beast... cannot wait

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    Looks promising. I see this kind of thing actually boosting regular fat bike sales. If people buy these, they can determine that maybe they like the wide tires, and if it breaks before they find the desire for more gears, less weight or better whatever, then all the better. They can justify getting a real fatbike. As simple as it is, though, it will probably be quite durable.

    It even appears to have a 170mm coaster brake hub, no doubt left over from the Schwinn choppers.

    Looks like they screwed up and put a regular english BB shell, then made some extra long crank spindles to get the chain lined up. It would still be simple enough to install a Mukluk rear hub, and a rear derailleur though.

    Does Mongoose still sell real bike shop bikes in the U.S.A?

    Maybe they could be the ones to make a mass produced, low cost real fat bike before Trek, Specialzed, etc.
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    me too

    Ordered mine today too, after all it's wal-mart, if it sucks, take it back

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    I'm in for a red one.
    Out to ride

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    i wush they would ship to germany i would buy one instantly...perfect for doing city trips, shopping etc... just install a copenhagen parts front carrier handlebar...

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    Theres another thread on these, I called mongoose the bb is wide, It has a 1 1/8 tube for the fork so changing that is easy. and you can swap the back hub for a 135 alfine and have 8 or 11 speeds. Since it is steel and not aluminum,(walmart has it listed wrong) Welding a hanger for disc on the back is easy, or making a bolt on etc..., it only has one frame size... 18" which should be ok for most people. Also if you look at the thread department store fatbikes, there is an 800 number there you can order the tires for 32 bucks and tubes for 9.
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    Beastie

    Heres what I'm thinking

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    Sorry I goofed on the 135 alfine when I typed. You gotta widen it to work
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    Drew, I would wrap it in carbon to lighten it up.
    I proudly ride for these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logantri View Post
    Drew, I would wrap it in carbon to lighten it up.
    You owe me a monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    You owe me a monitor.
    Huh?
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    Spit coffe all over his monitor.

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    Once we all get our $200 department store fat bikes, I say we all bombard the daily pic thread with our thrifty awesomeness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    Once we all get our $200 department store fat bikes, I say we all bombard the daily pic thread with our thrifty awesomeness.
    LOL

    I'm really curious about the rims.

    I mean 2 bills ... That won't buy you a set of the more popular (WIDE) rims, but at this price ... Heck, the whole bike might just be worth it for the nothing more than the rims.

    Waiting for that in-depth analysis of components ... I got 2 bills !!!

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    Just ordered a blue one for the wife or son to follow me around on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logantri View Post
    Drew, I would wrap it in carbon to lighten it up.
    maybe if I can make it fit 29x4.0...

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    I will definitely post all the relavent information as soon as possible- I'm hoping it gets here in time to try riding it on some snow... I'm sure the hubs won't be sufficiently reliable for years of winter use and my other big concern is the coaster brake only. I may look to add a front disc brake at the least.

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    Very sano....

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    Got a blue one headed my way! Been wanting to try out a fat bike for a while, but I haven't even seen one in person yet and they just cost too much. I'll be putting mine on an immediate diet. We'll see how light I can get it without any major component changes.

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    250# rider weight limit, who's going to be first to find the weak link?

    anyone already planning to drill out the rims?

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    Gonna drill the rims and attempt a tubeless conversion. Then swap seat, seat post, handle bar and stem for some light weight used parts I've got left over from my main ride.

    I'm a single speeder, so any fat bike I get would be stripped down to one gear anyway. This one saves a step!

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    Quote Originally Posted by graluc View Post
    I'm a single speeder, so any fat bike I get would be stripped down to one gear anyway. This one saves a step!
    You're supposed to pay extra for that

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    MikeSee will use this on his next coast trip. Those guys don't use brakes anyway. And if you can't find a buyer before you get in the plane, you leave it for someone else.

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    Tibor - if you know someone in the US military, have them order a Beast from you if WalMart will ship to their APO address as US rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    anyone already planning to drill out the rims?
    After I test their drop worthiness.
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    Got me a green comming for Jr.
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    Unfortunatly iam Out of Military Service for 14years... No One i knew is still serving... But i will find a Way...

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    I for one cannot wait to here all the disappointing news, complaining, and all the stupid questions that are about to flood this forum!

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    On the other hand could you imagine if it was actually ok and people enjoy them.

    Fat bikes for everyone!
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    Still waiting, did anybody's bike arrive yet, I'd like to confirm specs before I order parts

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    Just today found out about these bikes. Kinda sad to lose the uniqueness
    of owning a fatbike. Kinda embarrassed about what I paid a year ago for my moonlander. But I guess that's progress for ya. I guess I'm happy for everyone who gets to try fatbiking. Might just buy a walgoose to ride around on and not worry about leaving outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelzbycks View Post
    Just today found out about these bikes. Kinda sad to lose the uniqueness
    of owning a fatbike. Kinda embarrassed about what I paid a year ago for my moonlander. But I guess that's progress for ya. I guess I'm happy for everyone who gets to try fatbiking. Might just buy a walgoose to ride around on and not worry about leaving outside.
    Don't get to bummed ... They're night and day, different, when you look at the fine details.

    Think about the Sun Spyder.
    In reality that's the market that will see the greatest impact, by this bike.

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    MTBR, the home of haters.

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    Can we please stop saying this frame is aluminum? It's steel, put a magnet to it.

    Also, I've heard the BB is 110mm.

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    No one should be disappointed that they bought a more expensive bike, that they could have had a Walmart bike instead for much cheaper.

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    FYI, to those reading and on the fence ... The RED one's, just like the green ... Are sold out.

    I wonder how many they ordered ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    FYI, to those reading and on the fence ... The RED one's, just like the green ... Are sold out.

    I wonder how many they ordered ?
    Good question. As fast as these went, it seems like the odds of finding one on CL any time soon are veeeerrrrryyyy low.

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    For Sale green Mongoose Beast....$400...professionally assembled...lol
    Got one today and actually cant wait to get rid of it....dangerous for anything other than pavement in my book....welds very budget...spoke nipple holes "volcanoed" from bad tensioning...fork dropouts paper thin...there is a reason its $200...and quality and safety are not one of them. Not trying to be a downer...just being honest.
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    Well...let's hope they get some more.They should have known what a spacktackular phenominom this bike was gonna be.
    ...and indeed they prolly do...we're prolly just experiencing a backlog at the warehouse or some turbulence at sea detaining the delivery ships.Once they arrive and unload...happy days are here again.
    I'm thinking positive.I want mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    FYI, to those reading and on the fence ... The RED one's, just like the green ... Are sold out.

    I wonder how many they ordered ?
    3 of each color - all purchased by people on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CruJonez View Post
    MTBR, the home of haters.
    Right on, man. I'm heading back to the Beach Cruiser Review forum where everybody loves this bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Right on, man. I'm heading back to the Beach Cruiser Review forum where everybody loves this bike!
    Hadn't heard of that one, but ... This does seem to be the only one that shows outward hostility toward the bike, and it's purchasers.

    And ... YES ... People on other forums are talking about our FatBike section, in a negative way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Hadn't heard of that one, but ... This does seem to be the only one that shows outward hostility toward the bike, and it's purchasers.

    And ... YES ... People on other forums are talking about our FatBike section, in a negative way.
    Honestly, probably because it belongs in the beach cruiser forum. Experienced fat bikers are just trying to give you a warning on the limitations of these from the beginning and you act like we are elite snobs. Sorry, I have an 11 year old car with a house I have to work my ass off to afford, and saved up for a year for my fat bike. Give the "we are negative, elite, snobs" BS a rest already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Honestly, probably because it belongs in the beach cruiser forum. Experienced fat bikers are just trying to give you a warning on the limitations of these from the beginning and you act like we are elite snobs. Sorry, I have an 11 year old car with a house I have to work my ass off to afford, and saved up for a year for my fat bike. Give the "we are negative, elite, snobs" BS a rest already.
    Pure BS ... We all said, up front that we knew what we were buying, and for that, an implication of being idiots surfaced.

    Concerning the economic differences between us ... Keep working !
    I'll be retiring soon, and your SS tax will be appreciated

    Besides ... If I'm not mistaken, it was you who introduced the word "snob", and perhaps even "elitist" into the discussion.
    If I'm wrong ... I at least know that I've not called another such a thing.

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    If it's any consolation, this discussion has been repeated many times over the last century.

    I've got a bike magazine collection that goes back to the 1870s.

    Every so often dire warnings appear in the correspondence of those magazines about the dangers of buying mail order bikes from the big retailers, to be followed by spirited defences of them by others.

    The reality is that there's no such a thing as a "good" bike which can be sold for a fraction of its competition, but that's no problem so long as you're aware that you get what you pay for.

    The Walgoose is so cheap, that I reckon you could have your $200 worth of fun out of it and then walk away from its crumbling corpse without any regrets. It also is promising as a basis for many a future fat special. I keep saying this - I'd buy one if they were available here (not worth importing because taxes and freight would triple the price). This bike is a bargain for all the bike butchers here.

    I think the naysayers are too worried about the mythical deluded fool who will buy one and head out into the wilderness in the dead of winter inadequately prepared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    If it's any consolation, this discussion has been repeated many times over the last century.

    I've got a bike magazine collection that goes back to the 1870s.

    Every so often dire warnings appear in the correspondence of those magazines about the dangers of buying mail order bikes from the big retailers, to be followed by spirited defences of them by others.

    The reality is that there's no such a thing as a "good" bike which can be sold for a fraction of its competition, but that's no problem so long as you're aware that you get what you pay for.

    The Walgoose is so cheap, that I reckon you could have your $200 worth of fun out of it and then walk away from its crumbling corpse without any regrets. It also is promising as a basis for many a future fat special. I keep saying this - I'd buy one if they were available here (not worth importing because taxes and freight would triple the price). This bike is a bargain for all the bike butchers here.

    I think the naysayers are too worried about the mythical deluded fool who will buy one and head out into the wilderness in the dead of winter inadequately prepared.
    maybe a fellow forum member could send you one...if they're not sold out already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zarr View Post
    maybe a fellow forum member could send you one...if they're not sold out already.
    I'd be hit with import taxes which are based on the bike's price plus freight - probably triple the price, so not worth it.

    They'll eventually filter over to this side of the Atlantic, but I doubt we'll get the bargain prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    Maybe not. These are a lot like the OCC Schwinn bikes. Everyone wants one till they get one, and try to ride it
    Hmm, could be.

    Quote Originally Posted by NOBBY605 View Post
    For Sale green Mongoose Beast....$400...professionally assembled...lol
    Got one today and actually cant wait to get rid of it....dangerous for anything other than pavement in my book....welds very budget...spoke nipple holes "volcanoed" from bad tensioning...fork dropouts paper thin...there is a reason its $200...and quality and safety are not one of them. Not trying to be a downer...just being honest.
    Wow, sounds awful. I guess I could go maybe $80 for it? Where are you located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    If it's any consolation, this discussion has been repeated many times over the last century.

    I've got a bike magazine collection that goes back to the 1870s.

    Every so often dire warnings appear in the correspondence of those magazines about the dangers of buying mail order bikes from the big retailers, to be followed by spirited defences of them by others.

    The reality is that there's no such a thing as a "good" bike which can be sold for a fraction of its competition, but that's no problem so long as you're aware that you get what you pay for.

    The Walgoose is so cheap, that I reckon you could have your $200 worth of fun out of it and then walk away from its crumbling corpse without any regrets. It also is promising as a basis for many a future fat special. I keep saying this - I'd buy one if they were available here (not worth importing because taxes and freight would triple the price). This bike is a bargain for all the bike butchers here.

    I think the naysayers are too worried about the mythical deluded fool who will buy one and head out into the wilderness in the dead of winter inadequately prepared.
    Once again, I must say you more or less get it.

    Heck, if I decide the best $200 enjoyment is taking a torch to it, and creating a molten mass ... No one here should really care.
    And if I decide to use it as a base, and eventually put all of it's replacement components on a frame I build ... No one here should really care.

    But we're all idiots to be spending $200 on something that keeps us thinking and out of the bar.

    I could see that reaction, if these discussions came about because someone with 3 posts started talking about their new $200 Walmart special ... But I haven't seen that mythical deluded fool in this section

    Then again,
    If this mythical deluded fool decides to spend $2000+ on something, it will have a bigger purpose ... Like maybe something that will allow me to earn some retirement income from the investement

    Miller & Hobart come to mind.

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    ^ Have you even rode the bike yet?

    Also, you can go take a wad of cash and flush it down the toilet for all I care, just don't go around spewing about how it is such a smart idea.

    You've been rebutted many times, and at this point, you're just arguing for the right to be correct. Easily pound for pound most annoying poster here. STFU already.

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    Settle down mate

    Bikes are supposed to be fun, and if someone gets their fun imagining what they're going to do with a cheap heap of junk and someone else with a hyperexpensive FS fatty, then both are equally valid.

    Of course, sometimes purchases don't live up to their expectations. I must say I find this happens to me more with expensive stuff that I expect to be perfect than my klunker type purchases. For example I had a great day out on Sunday on an ancient bike that cost me £25, but I can remember my disappointment over some expensive purchases from big names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I'd be hit with import taxes which are based on the bike's price plus freight - probably triple the price, so not worth it.

    They'll eventually filter over to this side of the Atlantic, but I doubt we'll get the bargain prices.
    It looks like they're running out of them anyway last I checked.
    ...It's just like anything else...big introductory price, then price reduction.
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    I was at the Anchorage bike swap this past weekend and someone had brought one of these in - he'd ridden it to the meet and was letting folks give it a whirl. The bike looks heavy, but isn't bad looking at all. Without fail everyone who got on in to test came back with a smile and had also done a few skids with the brakes, like the good ol days when we were all too young to care whose name was on our bike.

    The tires look crap, but I can see the hoops being fairly bomber. I'm still thinking one is in my future for the kids and wife to bomb around the neighborhood on.

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    Will Vee Rubber's Mission 4.0 tires work on the rims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    But we're all idiots to be spending $200 on something that keeps us thinking and out of the bar.
    I don't know abut you, but my bikes get me to the bar; That's one reason that I'd get a Walgoose. My Pugsley is too pricey to leave parked on the streets of urban Philadelphia. My non-hipster neighbors covetously look at the wheels and tires on my Pugs as the bicycle equivalent of Donks. I would worry a whole lot less chaining up outside the bar a $200 bike, than I would a $1700 model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    I don't know abut you, but my bikes get me to the bar; That's one reason that I'd get a Walgoose. My Pugsley is too pricey to leave parked on the streets of urban Philadelphia. My non-hipster neighbors covetously look at the wheels and tires on my Pugs as the bicycle equivalent of Donks. I would worry a whole lot less chaining up outside the bar a $200 bike, than I would a $1700 model.
    How can I not agree with the idea !!!

    Wait, what ... "Bikes" ... As in plural ... You fiend

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    Any wheelies?
    Not that I saw, but there may have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    Doesn't look like this bike will be a wheelie machine. Kinda important feature for a play bike in my book
    Hear, hear! No wheelies = deal-breaker for me. Might be hard to get the front end up with those long chainstays.

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    mmm hmm. just keep scooting back until it feels right.

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    36x21 makes it feel a little more "lifty" up front

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    Re: Mongoose Beast... cannot wait

    Anyone walked into a walmart and bought one off the shelf? They're sold out online - so my only option is to trek to my local store.

    Were these ever available in-store?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Pure BS ... We all said, up front that we knew what we were buying, and for that, an implication of being idiots surfaced.
    I think its funny how many times you've changed your tone on here. You literally started out trying to tell everyone this would be a good fat bike, it was time Walmart flew in and saved everyone from the "overpriced" current fat bikes, that the niche is dead... bla bla bla. NOW you are trying to get behind the idea that people buying them know what they are getting into? THAT is BS.

    Exhibit A: The first couple reviews on Wallyworld itself. 26" Mongoose Beast Men's Oversized All Terrain Bike: Bikes & Riding Toys : Walmart.com

    Exhibit B: The great quotes from the current fat-bike.com article: Is The Walmart Fatbike Really That Bad? | FAT-BIKE.COM

    BUT I'M SURE SOMEHOW YOU ARE STILL CORRECT.

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    Not available in stores. Yet.
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    Anyone walked into a walmart and bought one off the shelf? They're sold out online - so my only option is to trek to my local store.

    Were these ever available in-store?

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    Anybody tried to locate one in the stores?
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    I saw one blue frame at the Walmart in Grand Forks, ND. If I could find the cable for my phone, I'd upload a photo. That was several days ago, and it has sold already. I wanted to joyride it around the store, but they had the front wheel locked to the frame

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    ...Guys...(sob...)...whoever didn't already get one might never get one now.
    ...waaaaa-waaaaaa....

    I want my walbeast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    I think its funny how many times you've changed your tone on here. You literally started out trying to tell everyone this would be a good fat bike, it was time Walmart flew in and saved everyone from the "overpriced" current fat bikes, that the niche is dead... bla bla bla. NOW you are trying to get behind the idea that people buying them know what they are getting into? THAT is BS.

    Exhibit A: The first couple reviews on Wallyworld itself. 26" Mongoose Beast Men's Oversized All Terrain Bike: Bikes & Riding Toys : Walmart.com

    Exhibit B: The great quotes from the current fat-bike.com article: Is The Walmart Fatbike Really That Bad? | FAT-BIKE.COM

    BUT I'M SURE SOMEHOW YOU ARE STILL CORRECT.
    I never realized that spending $200 could cause another so much grief.

    You should really try to get over it !

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    Not the same thing...but I'm thinking of making a fat-front bike.That will at least give me a taste of a fatty bike anyway.
    I have a coupla frames that can fit a pretty big rear tire...so I'll have gears,good brakes,etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zarr View Post
    Not the same thing...but I'm thinking of making a fat-front bike.That will at least give me a taste of a fatty bike anyway.
    been thinking about this myself. one of my motivations for trying a fat bike has been to see if the big tires help keep the front from washing out / digging in on some of the really sandy trails around here. a fat front could help answer that question without spending the $2000 required to buy a minimally serviceable fatbike.

    Quote Originally Posted by zarr View Post
    Anybody tried to locate one in the stores?
    None of the stores within 50 miles of my house had any in stock. It looked to me like walmart.com was offering either to deliver one to my house, or to my store, but that no stores were stocking them, i.e. they usually say "out of stock" if they normally stock something and it is sold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    I never realized that spending $200 could cause another so much grief.

    You should really try to get over it !
    And give up on you! No way. Like I said... still correct aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    And give up on you! No way. Like I said... still correct aren't you?
    Time will tell, on many fronts ... In the mean time, keep working.
    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    I had someone ask me that same question in a PM... so here goes:

    I think for most people it's a combination of a few things - first I'd say I agree it would be totally fine for puttsing around snowy streets and jumping curbs or whatever, but the problem is that Walmart (and blogs/websites) are trying to play it up as the same thing as "fat biking" or snow biking... the things "normal" fat bikers do. Then you have lots of people who don't understand bikes and reliable parts thinking they are going to get one and be out on the trails no problem. Just trying to warn those people, or at least get it in their heads it may not work. Otherwise you have 50,000 people who can now afford a walmart fat bike, getting one out on the trail and realizing how hard it is and/or getting a negative opinion of fat biking and then have 50,000 people badmouthing it. There are tons of bike shops that rent fat bikes for like $30 for the day if people want to try it. I totally understand that still doesn't matter and some people will never be able to justify a 1000+ fat bike. But thinking a $200 bike is going to be performance-wise the same thing, is sadly what some people think. Honestly... I barely scrape by after house payment and everything else... but I saved up for a year to get my Moonlander and have been loving it ever since.

    Anyway, sorry if I or others came across as snobby... I think it is more us trying to get people on the side of caution more than "that bike sucks" attitude. If you think about how Mongoose/Walmart still needs to make a profit on this, as well as the company in china that made them... then what kind of metals and materials was this thing made out of! Just something to think about is all
    But stop thinking for others, on this forum, we know what we're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    Hearing they are available again?
    No longer listed as out of stock ... That probably explains why mine didn't come from a distribution center in IL. (like everyone else has indicated).

    Second shipment probably arrived at Long Beach, and went out from their distribution center in CA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    And give up on you! No way. Like I said... still correct aren't you?
    You promised to give up a couple of days ago. Do you mean it this time?

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    heres mine GREEN & my wifes WHITEMongoose Beast...  cannot wait-test-5.jpg
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