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    Maxxis Minion FBF and FBR.

    26 x 4.8".


    120tpi.


    Dual compound rubber.


    EXO and TR casing.





    Direct competition for Bud and Lou?


    Looks like it from where I stand.


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    are those in your hands? and available, mike? if thats 4.8" truly, those knobs are massive! so, weighty? im guessing being maxxis 4.8" probs is around 4.5"....if the grip follows the 29" versions, it will be a superb non-snow tyre. i have no idea about in snow, but i know i want them!

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    Since it seems like most 4.8" tires turn out to be a 4.5" max I think I'm just going to get the big Knards or 2x Buds. Would love it if someone would just come out with an *actual* faster rolling but nice (e.g. 45 NRTH) 4.8" or 5" tire for once.
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    When can I buy a pair?

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    Good looking tread pattern. Nice snow tire

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    FWIW, These were announced in March Maxxis' New Rubber - Taipei Show 2015 - Pinkbike and this is the only time since then I've seen any mention since then.

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    Yep, in my hands for eval.

    I have them mounted tubeless on a set of Nextie 90's. Haven't taken any measurements yet--will ride 'em for awhile first.

    Gut reaction just looking at them is that they will be better on hardpack and rock than snow. I don't often ride my fatbike on those surfaces, and snow is months away yet.

    Meanwhile, going to go mud bogging and root slogging in search of trout and some alpine scenery today/tonight/tomorrow.

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    Am I the only one who looks at 45Nrth tires and immediately thinks, Maxxis made those?

    Or is this well known fact and I'm just behind the ball?

    Mike, yep, good Bud and Lou competition for sure. Now bring out 29+ of the same level, and we're getting somewhere (not that the recently released DW's don't kick a** already though...)
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    I thought innova made the QBP tyres? Maxxis is cst right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    I thought innova made the QBP tyres? Maxxis is cst right?
    Surly's, for sure.

    45Nrth's tires have a different "look" and feel to them. Block shape, siping patterns, rubber appearance, all subtly point to a different maker, at least to me. Might be well know fact, I've just never heard....
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    imho it looks like Bud might be a better front tire in the snow, and Lou is just fine as a rear tire. Although I have not done ANY mud riding this summer, I see no other reason to use Bud/Knard as a summer hardpack team. If I had the cash, I would probably use a Dillinger in place of Bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    . Although I have not done ANY mud riding this summer, I see no other reason to use Bud/Knard as a summer hardpack team.
    Maybe it's too early for me and I'm being thick, but I can't make sense of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Surly's, for sure.

    45Nrth's tires have a different "look" and feel to them. Block shape, siping patterns, rubber appearance, all subtly point to a different maker, at least to me. Might be well know fact, I've just never heard....
    thats true....the flowbeist is a strange texture...on the sidewall at least....and i was interested in *some* similarities in the maxxis 27.5 b+ rekon and the flowbeist.... you could defo be onto something Mendon!

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    I've been thinking about this. On tires this big, with this much tread and so many knobs making contact, is it really even necessary to have a rear specific tread anymore? The cross tread "paddle" block pattern on the Lou and Minion FBR are pretty severe (reminds me of the old smokes). Realistically, most of the time I lose any traction while climbing, its the rear end slipping sideways off camber. That's where the more liner tread of the Bud and FBF would keep one on line. How much more propulsion traction do we really need? And since more braking force is usually applied to the front anyway (and we've all run front specific tires), it can't be any huge benefit for braking forces on the back end. I love the grip of the Lou, but I bet a Bud does just as well out back, and more than likely faster and better overall. No Minion FBR's for me please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Maybe it's too early for me and I'm being thick, but I can't make sense of this.
    Mikesee said he thought they would make a great summer/mud bogging tires, but maybe not that great of winter tires. I was just stating that I have yet to test the knard/bud out in mud, but other than that they are perfect summer tires for me.

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    Lookin' like the big VanHelga (FBF, at least) that I've been waiting for. Dual Compound is a big plus (depending on what compounds they actually are). Would love some more info and sizing (flat bead2bead width) next chance you get, Mikesee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    ...Gut reaction just looking at them is that they will be better on hardpack and rock than snow...
    Perhaps those knobs are not as tall as the photos seem to show? From the pics I would guess they're maybe 3/16" tall, not what I'd want for riding on rock but great traction in some snow conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Am I the only one who looks at 45Nrth tires and immediately thinks, Maxxis made those?

    Or is this well known fact and I'm just behind the ball?

    Mike, yep, good Bud and Lou competition for sure. Now bring out 29+ of the same level, and we're getting somewhere (not that the recently released DW's don't kick a** already though...)
    I agree, they do look a lot like an Ardent/Minion. I do love my Beists but if these tires have a larger volume they will be up for sale. The minion is by far my favorite tire ever and if I can have a set on all my bikes I will.

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    Minions are my favorite tire, although I use them for DH-only duties, they excel at it like nothing else IME. I keep going back year after year without disappointment. On any rim I've ever pumped up Ardents on, it always seemed to leave a big gaping space between side knobs and center knobs, leaving little traction for cornering. Not so with my minions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    I've been thinking about this. On tires this big, with this much tread and so many knobs making contact, is it really even necessary to have a rear specific tread anymore? The cross tread "paddle" block pattern on the Lou and Minion FBR are pretty severe (reminds me of the old smokes). Realistically, most of the time I lose any traction while climbing, its the rear end slipping sideways off camber. That's where the more liner tread of the Bud and FBF would keep one on line. How much more propulsion traction do we really need? And since more braking force is usually applied to the front anyway (and we've all run front specific tires), it can't be any huge benefit for braking forces on the back end. I love the grip of the Lou, but I bet a Bud does just as well out back, and more than likely faster and better overall. No Minion FBR's for me please.
    Interesting thoughts. You've made me completely rethink my fat rear snow tire strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR Z View Post
    Lookin' like the big VanHelga (FBF, at least) that I've been waiting for. Dual Compound is a big plus (depending on what compounds they actually are). Would love some more info and sizing (flat bead2bead width) next chance you get, Mikesee!
    I had a pair of prototypes for a bit so not sure how production tires will end up but... they are almost identical in size (B-to-B, mounted casing width and mounted knob-to-knob) to the Bud/Lou. Tread is similar in depth too at ~8mm. Weights were 1590g (front) and 1570g (rear).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    are those in your hands? and available, mike? if thats 4.8" truly, those knobs are massive! so, weighty? im guessing being maxxis 4.8" probs is around 4.5"....if the grip follows the 29" versions, it will be a superb non-snow tyre. i have no idea about in snow, but i know i want them!
    Spent the weekend riding these mounted tubeless on Nextie 90's.

    The spouse was right there with me, riding Bud/Lou tubeless on Jackalope rims.

    When the weekend was done and I had both bikes in the shop, I inflated all 4 tires up to 10 psi (as measured on a Meiser low-psi gauge) and then measured the casing width with a caliper. Bud was identical to FBF, Lou was identical (we're talking to the millimeter) to FBR.

    Thus, because the rims differ by ~10mm, the Surly's are bigger.

    As far as ride impressions, we were in stupid amounts of sticky, cloggy mud, and they were either packed up and stuck, or rolling freely. No way to pick a winner in such on/off conditions.
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    Thanks, Mike. That's a great start to figuring out just how big these bad boys are :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post

    Thus, because the rims differ by ~10mm, the Maxxis tires are bigger.
    that is interesting! given how maxxis commonly mesure their 29"ers id guessed they might come up a bit smaller....nice! but it also makes it more explicable that they are intending to do these (afaik at least) in a 4" version as well. nice. looking forward to your continued impressions....

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    anyone know when these will be available to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Train View Post
    anyone know when these will be available to buy?
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    Weigh and measure them when they arrive!

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    Vaporware apparently. Stock appeared at AEbike, and I ordered one of each. Order confirmation, and later a cancellation notification, with expected stock in February. I was about to applaud Maxxis for actually producing product in time for the winter season, but nope!

    Typical fatbike timetable. Mid winter arrival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    Vaporware apparently. Stock appeared at AEbike, and I ordered one of each. Order confirmation, and later a cancellation notification, with expected stock in February. I was about to applaud Maxxis for actually producing product in time for the winter season, but nope!

    Typical fatbike timetable. Mid winter arrival.
    No--they shipped out of QBP yesterday. Still a few of the fronts left at Q today.

    True that the next batch is due in Feb, but they were actually available yesterday and are en route to dealers now.

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    Any actual weights and measurements?

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    Universal Cycle shows that they have them in stock

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    The house has them in stock also. $99 + free shipping. Ae bike is now showing a 60 TPI version for $80, instead of the 120 TPI. Perhaps that is the reason for the order mishap.

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    Per Maxxis rep - "FBF/FBR tested extremely well. ...26x4.80 and will also be coming in at a 26x4.00 in the coming months. No self-steer"

    This last part is interesting. Will try to get a pair for actual weights and pics

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    Interested in the 4.0 model of this or even a Colossus in that size. Anyone run these on a Marge Lite on a pugs? I am using a 1x10 setup so I would think I would not need MWOD cranks on a 1x?
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    Just got Maxxis Minion FBR actual width, weights and pics posted. Let me know if anyone wants other info

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    Judging from the pics posted by red chiclet Joe, these appear to be around 250mm. This puts them right around the volume of a BFL, slightly larger than Spesh GC or Dilly 5, and a bit smaller than Bud/Lou.

    I'm surprised these aren't a hotter topic. Probably the most advanced fat tire to hit the market, in a large size, with sidewall protection, dual tread compound, and tubeless ready. And cheaper than the competition.

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    I was looking into em but for the size and weight might might as well stick with the Beistie brothers at least for the coming winter months.

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    I posted volume calculations based on 80mm inner width rim in the other thread - volume / area is 13.08253 sq inc

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    Quote Originally Posted by joebikesdirect View Post
    Just got Maxxis Minion FBR actual width, weights and pics posted. Let me know if anyone wants other info

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    Let us know when you get a measure on actual diameter and which rim you're using. I'm currently running a modified Lou for clearance and this seems to be just the ticket, as I know and prefer Maxxis tires on my other rigs.

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    Just set up FBF tubeless up front. At higher pressure, probably 15 psi or so, but unmeasured, I took some measurements.

    On an 80mm rim, the casing width is 111mm(same as Lou on 82mm) and the max knob shoulder width varies from 112mm to 114mm, so we'll call it 113mm average(a few mm short of Bud and Lou). Overall tire height just a shade over 29.5".

    Initial impressions based on short ride around the house: *disclaimer* I somehow managed to install this tire backwards. Despite this, I could not discern any non linear steering properties. This tire might make me fall in love with rigid.

    My biggest issue with the Chao 4.9 it's replacing, which I thought had very little self steer, is that it would be unpredictable popping of of an angled surface, when at reasonable pressures. For example: Imagine a two track with a raised hump between the two tire tracks. If I want to jump from one track to the other, angling into the hump, the Chao would pull unpredictably as you load and elevate the front, resulting in an sketchy jump. The Minion stays straight on the bike's trajectory, leading to a 100% predictable fight path.

    I am also unable to feel any self steer even with my weight over the bars, steering slowly on a smooth dirt road (no gravel). Just linear and predictable steering. I dig it.

    I'll probably switch it around sometime, as the ramped knobs don't make sense when run backwards. I'm gonna throw in a trail ride shortly, and will update.

    FBR I haven't set up yet, as my winter wheelset needs hub work, but I laid it out out flat and it measured 10" or 254mm.

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    Got my shipment of FBF, FBR, and Colossus in yesterday.

    Avg weights =
    FBF: 1630 to 1670
    FBR: 1600 to 1640
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    Confirmed zero self steer at reasonable dirt pressures, even on pavement. Very predictable in wet grass and heavily leaved and wet trails. Running FBF front only, it was writing checks that the ~3.5" Fat B rear couldn't cash.

    Hit the biggest jump lines that I typically ride, and these were very smooth and predictable. Hit lots of angled lips in the urban setting, and the Fat Minions performed well.

    Tried the braking traction on wet cement. Did a couple of seated front manuals since the tires wouldn't break free.

    Rolling resistance is predictably a bit higher than the minimalist Chao 4.9's. The Fat Minions mute trail charter better, but have less bounce. A minor adjustment, but I actually like a bit of spring in my tires when rigid, to increase ability to preload the bike for pumping and hopping.

    All in all, a very positive ride. These tires inspire speed and confidence into corners, and reward your faith if you trust them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Got my shipment of FBF, FBR, and Colossus in yesterday.
    I can't find much info about the Collossus. Would you say its closer to a 5 inch Dillinger or a Snowshoe XL?

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    Anyone considering FBFs front AND rear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by in the trees View Post
    Anyone considering FBFs front AND rear?
    yes, as long as I can get it to fit the rear of my 170 rear end.

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    Does anybody have any info about FBR actual width with 65mm rim? I am hoping, that i can fit these to my 2015 Beargrease carbon (1x11 setup).
    Maybe i am hoping too much

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    I have not seen measurements or pictures.
    Comparing them to tires with similar bead-bead measurements, it would appear that they will end up in the 103-105mm range on 65mm rims. Take it with a grain of salt.

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    Hi.
    Now i have little bit information about these.
    My friend mounted these for me yesterday (tubeless).

    FBR width little over 108mm. (knob to knob) with 65mm. Marge lites.

    Weight:
    FBF, 120tpi, regular version, 1,57kg.
    FBR, 120tpi, regular version, 1,56kg.

    2015 Beargrease carbon rear clearance. 1x11 setup. FBR (or my rim) is not perfectly straight. Tire goes very close to chain (with 42 tooth rear). i may have to shave some knobs a little.







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    Tyres have gained width since mounting (tubeless).
    I had to "shave" FBR chain side knobs a little (because it is not fully straight and when riding, touched chain).
    Both are now 111mm. wide (knob to knob).
    If needed, i can still "shave" FBR knobs more, because they are wider, than sidewall, but FBR has needed clearance now.

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    Any feedback as to what the FBF and FBR are like in soft snow? Are they able to cut it or are they really for dry/groomed trails?

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    In case anyone was considering the Colossus vs Minion, I've compared both and the Colossus is about 10mm wider (knobs or casing). Much bigger.

    The Minions fit on a Mukluk without any mods, but the Colossus required a drive-side BB spacer, 2 cassette cogs truncated, and even then they're so wide that the knobs rub on the chainstays during flex.

    I don't have my notes handy, but I think I measured 109mm casing and 119mm at the outer knobs.

    80mm rims, 20psi (tubed and tubeless)

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    Quote Originally Posted by howrad View Post
    In case anyone was considering the Colossus vs Minion, I've compared both and the Colossus is about 10mm wider (knobs or casing). Much bigger.

    The Minions fit on a Mukluk without any mods, but the Colossus required a drive-side BB spacer, 2 cassette cogs truncated, and even then they're so wide that the knobs rub on the chainstays during flex.

    I don't have my notes handy, but I think I measured 109mm casing and 119mm at the outer knobs.

    80mm rims, 20psi (tubed and tubeless)

    That's great info. Wonder if the Colossus casing is actually bigger, or if the dearth of rubber (see weight differences to FBF/FBR) is merely allowing it to stretch more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    That's great info. Wonder if the Colossus casing is actually bigger, or if the dearth of rubber (see weight differences to FBF/FBR) is merely allowing it to stretch more?
    Hmm, I hadn't even considered that the casings might be the same and the sheer knobbiness of the Minions could constrain the potential size.

    I think the Colossus side knobs might also be farther down the sidewall, making the overall width even greater.

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    I'll probably change to the Minions because they fit better, but I'm really going to miss the way the Colossus rolls.

    Weights were 1558g and 1583g.

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    If you have either of them unmounted again would you please lay them flat and measure bead to bead across the carcass?

    Regarding fitting a Mukluk, are you talking 1 or 2 front rings?

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    Any follow up with these tires? Looks like they have some great potential
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustyduke22 View Post
    Any follow up with these tires? Looks like they have some great potential
    I ran a few hundred Kold Kutters into mine, because the blocky knobs seemed so perfect for the application, and because I'm leaving in the AM for somewhere cold, icy, and gorgeous.

    Not sure my opinion on them will be worth a damn after this...

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    I have knee problems, and ridden only couple of times. Conditions have been cold and wet, not snow yet. Minions are little bit weighty (for my poor fitness ), but overall i have been very satisfied for them. Yesterday was -5 celsius (23 fahrenheit) and grip on the rocks and roots was great. Also, when grip breaks loose, movement has been very smooth. However i am still a newbie, so my opinion is not worth much

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    Finally swapped to the minion in rear, albeit on my 47 millimeter trials rim. Paired with the front version on an 80 millimeter rim. Conditions were dust over crust, with an icy substrate providing only modest initial bite. Even on a smaller rim, the FBR is the star of the pair in those conditions. Plenty of traction to tractor up the climbs if I stay seated, and pretty decent braking traction as well. It blew away the 4.0 Nate on the same rim.

    The front was passable, but more prone to sliding than the rear. Can't help but wonder how the FBR would do on both ends. Need more testing in powder and slush before a concrete conclusion.

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    If you have either of them unmounted again would you please lay them flat and measure bead to bead across the carcass?

    Regarding fitting a Mukluk, are you talking 1 or 2 front rings?
    I just pulled my Colossus tires off to sell them, and I measured the bead-to-bead width at 250mm. Lesson learned: next time I'll use the Minions if I want an easier fit on a Mukluk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howrad View Post
    I just pulled my Colossus tires off to sell them, and I measured the bead-to-bead width at 250mm. Lesson learned: next time I'll use the Minions if I want an easier fit on a Mukluk.
    Interesting. I measure the same 250mm on a FBF. 115mm to widest point on 80mm rims at 20psi. Guess the difference is the location of the side knobs as you noted.

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    mounted up a set on rolling darryls on my ice cream truck,after a 32 mile ride i was very impressed with them and how they handled the various surface conditions during the ride...in southern new mexico we have packed sand and loose sand,rocks,more rocks,chunky rocks,rocks and sand mixed together,sand over rocks,rocks over sand....you get the picture...
    even found a little patch of mud during the ride,not something we see much of around here...

    they seem to have avoided most of the bad fat bike tire features like self steer of that falling down the stairs feeling some tires have as you lean them over onto the next set of knobs.also not too bad on pavement,even at "trail" pressure.really did everything well but shined when pointed down hill...as you might expect...didnt take long before i was letting the brakes go and trusting the tires would hold a line through even the most blown out sections...

    not the fastest rolling tire in the world,they are a bit on the heavy side,but then again i expect the exo casing will not leave me stranded out in the desert either...

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    Thanks for the review, pretty sure I'm gonna go with this for my next tire set!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    mounted up a set on rolling darryls on my ice cream truck,after a 32 mile ride i was very impressed with them and how they handled the various surface conditions during the ride...in southern new mexico we have packed sand and loose sand,rocks,more rocks,chunky rocks,rocks and sand mixed together,sand over rocks,rocks over sand....you get the picture...
    even found a little patch of mud during the ride,not something we see much of around here...

    they seem to have avoided most of the bad fat bike tire features like self steer of that falling down the stairs feeling some tires have as you lean them over onto the next set of knobs.also not too bad on pavement,even at "trail" pressure.really did everything well but shined when pointed down hill...as you might expect...didnt take long before i was letting the brakes go and trusting the tires would hold a line through even the most blown out sections...

    not the fastest rolling tire in the world,they are a bit on the heavy side,but then again i expect the exo casing will not leave me stranded out in the desert either...

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    the nates didnt stay on the bike for very long because i was having way too many pedal strikes with the 4 inch tires so i dont have a real impression of the nates. aside to say they sucked on the road portion of my rides since i commute to the trails by bike.great on the dirt though,but i would say the minion does it all much better without being a latex bleeding mess like im sure the nates would be tubeless,the construction of the maxxis tires is miles ahead of the surly tires in my opinion which is sad since i loved the knard 4.8's i had on my moonlander.
    im on my second set of chronicles for the krampus,the first pair got split between my ogre and karate monkey and are still going strong,at the same time i got 300 miles out of a dirt wizard 120 tpi 29x3 tire before it was worn out and the sidewalls were blown,the chronicles went well over 2500 miles already...

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    is there any word on when a 4.0 version might be available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    is there any word on when a 4.0 version might be available?
    I hope before summer. Must have.

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    Has Anyone tried running FBF at both ends? I wonder how much would it affect behaviour of the rear end. I can't find FBR anywhere (eu) and I need a new set of tyres. Only FBF (I need EXO-version) available.

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    I plan to run FBF on both ends if they ever bring the 4.0 to market. I can't foresee any issue with it. Should corner great and last forever. I reckon a 4.8 FBR would be overkill for 98.375% of riders/conditions. Mine will be snow only usage.

    Until that happens, I'll prolly run the 4.8" FBF with a faster rear- likely the FatB in 4.0 or 4.9". I've come to realize that the size difference in rear makes a marked difference in cornering. The smaller FatB cuts a much tighter line at any given lean angle, even when paired with a larger front. But the high volume works a treat for square edge hits, riding up stairs, and makes wheelies/manuals easier. Decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauri View Post
    Has Anyone tried running FBF at both ends? I wonder how much would it affect behaviour of the rear end. I can't find FBR anywhere (eu) and I need a new set of tyres. Only FBF (I need EXO-version) available.
    I used a FBF on the rear because the tread appears that it would roll a bit better than the R.
    Bud/clownshoe front and FBF/Darryl is the max I can fit. Worked great in 8" of fresh wet snow and then crust then slush riding that followed the rest of the season. Definitely more meaty than the previous Nate.

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    I ordered pair of Minion FBF. I just hope they are not total anchors. They are on the heavy heavy side but I hope the tread isn't as slow as my Surly Lou was out in the back. My other option was Jumbo Jims, but the tread doesn't seem to suit for my riding style in sloppy conditions so I went with Minions. Jims are propably a lot lighter and would roll a lot better.

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    If it's any consolation, you'll get a nice MAXXIS drawstring bag with each tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bme107 View Post
    If it's any consolation, you'll get a nice MAXXIS drawstring bag with each tire.
    Mine came without those fancy bags Tread is a lot beefier than I imagined from the pictures. I have to set them up tubeless and see how do they compare over Bud / Lou -combo.

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    Has anyone tried these tires on Uma 70mm rims? I have about 150 mi on them (both 4.8) I am unable to get the beads to fully seat on 1 side. I am not thinking it is the tires but the pointy lip on the inside of the rim, not allowing the bead to go over and seat completely. If I run 12+ psi I have no issues with air loss but any lower and I'm going broke on co2's. The Uma's were great on the looser bead Surly tires for tubless but they seem too tight for the Minions. I currently don't have another rim to try at the moment, may get to use my frieds Sarma carbon later in the week but figured I would ask here first.

    Possible solutions are getting new carbon rims but I would rather wait and see what happens with 27.5 x 5", if they will fit in my frame etc, before spending $$$ on new carbon rims. Another option was to sand down the lip a mm or so all around and see if that will be enough slack to get the rest of the bead to seat.

    Don't want to do any of the above until I get some feedback and a carbon rim to pop them on too first.

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    My experience so far with FBF on front and back: Corners nicely, better steering feel than Surly's Bud. Ok traction on mud, rolls decently. Quite much self steer on bare rock when running low pressures. Heavy. Slippery on wet roots when using higher pressures. I think I still need to find that sweet spot with pressure on front. So far i've been running these with 0.5 bar front, 0.6 bar back (on Rolling Darryls). 0.4 bars on front was too low (self steering on bare rock / tarmac), 0.45 felt quite good on rough descents.

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    Maxxis Minion FBF and FBR.-20160504_183137.jpg

    I just got my Framed Alaskan with Minions FBF and FBR. I have not been able to test them out yet because of work and it's been raining like hell the entire week here in the northeast

    But, it came with 9 psi from factory when I got on it, it seemed too stiff so I lowered it to 6 psi and it seems like it's the sweet spot. The FBF definitely has more knobs, it almost looks like a fat version of the Ardent 2.25 that my wife has on her 27.5" FS.

    The knob pattern to me looks like it's more versatile, kinda like A/T tires on a Wrangler.

    We'll see how it goes when I ride it for the first time. I'll keep you all in touch.
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    Maxxis Minion FBF and FBR.

    Got a set that came stock on my RSD Mayor 2016.
    Imo, the best tires out there.
    Coming from a set of Bud & Lou that I keep for winter only, I was still impress by the Minions on snow (soft or hard) and even ice at the end of the winter fat season.
    I'm using them has a 3 seasons tires and like all my Minions on my DH bike and Enduro bike, I'm glad I have Maxxis Minions for agressive grip in whatever conditions. I use the 8psi min rating to keep rolling resistance and also a bit of self steer as low as possible (but nothing compared to Vee-Snowshoe XL 4,8'').
    I was missing my low pressure guage lately so I've been riding for a while at 4,5psi with no problem and extreme grip in whatever I throw at them. They love off-camber wet or dry!
    If I had to choose just one tire set all year round, it would be a set of Minions!


    Just had one bad luck, I've cut one side wall on my rear in sharp rocks (not a legitimate bike trail...)
    I've manage to patch it with tire patch and it still hold solid to this date.
    So I'm not sure to go the tubeless route because of that but mated with Sun Ringle Mulefut 80 SL, it must be one of the best tubeless setup!
    It's almost impossible to get the tire bead off the the rim sidewall!
    I have to use my foot! crazy solid! I even had to run on a rear flat (cut sidewall) and it wasn't even close to go off the rim...

    I run Maxxis 3,8-5'' tubes for summer conditions, but I've tried a Surly light tube 4'' 0,8mm on the rear at 4,5psi with no problems and you can feel the weight saving lifting the bike...but that tube, I'll keep it for winter too.
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    Oh, and these were a breeze to setup tubeless. I got mine done with just a floorpump after getting the other side up with inner tube. After the tyres popped they sealed immediately. No leaks what so ever.

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    Has anyone run the non exo, non tubeless ready 120tpi version tubeless. I have mulefuts if that makes any difference. Non exo would save some weight and cost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerpss View Post
    Has anyone run the non exo, non tubeless ready 120tpi version tubeless. I have mulefuts if that makes any difference. Non exo would save some weight and cost
    I have had non exo 120tpi, tubeless setup with marge lites, since november. No problems.

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    Hopefully EXO TR 4.0" version of both tires will be available this year. I would like to try something knobbier 120tpi tubeless ready tires for wet trails but lighter than those 4.8" tires (~1600-1650g). 45nrth Vanhelga has been in my mind also but these tires have EXO protection...

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    Quote Originally Posted by forward View Post
    Hopefully EXO TR 4.0" version of both tires will be available this year. I would like to try something knobbier 120tpi tubeless ready tires for wet trails but lighter than those 4.8" tires (~1600-1650g). 45nrth Vanhelga has been in my mind also but these tires have EXO protection...
    There was a set of the 4.0 EXO FBF/FBR on the facebook Fatbike Trader group posted Sunday. They were asking $170 for them. they were new.

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    Likin Bikin seems to be the only place that has the 4.0's in stock - they aren't even listed on Maxxis website yet.

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    Pricing is a bit silly, considering the 4.8 was under $100.

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    Anyone had a chance to compare the 4.8 FBR to the Specy GC 4.6? Sidewall strength is my main concern followed by rolling resistance...

    Touring the CT in a couple weeks and looking for my rear tire... It will be one of the two in this thread on a Nextie 65mm rim. I already have the GC's but am a bit leary of the sidewall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bncrshr77 View Post
    Anyone had a chance to compare the 4.8 FBR to the Specy GC 4.6? Sidewall strength is my main concern followed by rolling resistance...

    Touring the CT in a couple weeks and looking for my rear tire... It will be one of the two in this thread on a Nextie 65mm rim. I already have the GC's but am a bit leary of the sidewall.

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    FBF if rolling resistance is a concern.

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    Are you saying to run an FBF on the front and rear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bncrshr77 View Post
    Are you saying to run an FBF on the front and rear?
    Yup. it's a good tire.

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    Cool... I had read about a couple people trying it but there's just not that many reviews on using the FBF on the rear and if the rolling resistance is noticeably less than the FBR. Thanks for the info!

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    Got the 4.0 FBR today.

    bead to bead 215mm
    casing width 97mm
    knob width 99mm

    Inflated with a tube at 15psi on a dt swiss br710 rim (76mm inner)

    Although its exactly 4 inches I was hoping it would be slightly bigger. Knobs are also smaller and lower than the 4.8 version. Not sure it will as good in the snow, but I cant fit the bigger one on my bike

    Hopefully it stretches overtime

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    Mr_X40 - Can you snap a side shot and straight on shot of the tire mounted on your rim?

    I'm running Mulefut rims and have been excited about the 4" versions from day one.
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    Here is the FBR 4.0 compared to a FBF 4.8.

    I really wanted this tire to be taller with more volume. But the width is pretty much exactly 4.0 so can't really complain since it's accurate.
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    Anyone have the FBF(R) in 27.5 guise yet? Any comparisons to a Hodag?

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    Thanks for the pics! That shot from above kinda makes it look like there isn't much rim protection with the 4s on a 80mm rim.

    More narrow rim might be better for rocky & rooty trail use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrawn View Post
    Anyone have the FBF(R) in 27.5 guise yet? Any comparisons to a Hodag?
    Not available yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrawn View Post
    Anyone have the FBF(R) in 27.5 guise yet? Any comparisons to a Hodag?
    Heres the new Suzi Q wearing the FBF in 27.5 x 3.8. Sweet looking bike btw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NH Mtbiker View Post
    Heres the new Suzi Q wearing the FBF in 27.5 x 3.8. Sweet looking bike btw!

    Rocky Mountain Launches Two 27.5? Fat Bike Models at Eurobike 2016 | Singletracks Mountain Bike News
    Thanks! Looks like slightly less volume and shorter sidewall then the Hodag. Exactly what I'm looking for...

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    The 4.0 will be available in the UK January 2014.
    There have been good reports of their tracking through mud patches can anyone else vouch for them?
    How are they on the self steer front? Took my hodag off to try a Floater and then a knard and I had to check that my forks weren't broken my bike steered that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrawn View Post
    Thanks! Looks like slightly less volume and shorter sidewall then the Hodag. Exactly what I'm looking for...
    That pic is on the 65mm Mule Fut rim. I have one it at the shop and it is sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNormsk View Post
    Any feedback as to what the FBF and FBR are like in soft snow? Are they able to cut it or are they really for dry/groomed trails?
    I'll second the request for snow experience.. Thinking of a FBF up front and a VanHelga out back for this winter... Thoughts??

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcclass View Post
    I'll second the request for snow experience.. Thinking of a FBF up front and a VanHelga out back for this winter... Thoughts??
    I preferred Bud/Lou to the FBF/FBR on snow. FBF/FBR feel "slipperier", regardless of temperature. Can't say for sure what's causing it, but I suspected the aggressive siping on Bud/Lou made them grip better.

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