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    Manitou Mastodon?

    I've heard that Treks are being spec'd with this new fork from Manitou. Has anyone heard any details?

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    Not yet, but interested and it was only a matter of time. I guess Fox will have something eventually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnek1999 View Post
    I've heard that Treks are being spec'd with this new fork from Manitou. Has anyone heard any details?

    Will be released at Sea Otter in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnek1999 View Post
    I've heard that Treks are being spec'd with this new fork from Manitou. Has anyone heard any details?
    34mm and fits the 4.5"x27.5"
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    This is all I could dig up!

    http://www.apopkapostcardshoppe.com/...mart&Itemid=71

    Skeleton currently in progress....
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    sure, the minute i finally break down and buy a fork, another one hits the market...

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    I hope Manitou does this for right! If its anything like its star lineup...the Mattoc, Dorado, Minute and the fork I run now, the Marvel, it should be real good! Wondering how different it will be from their Magnum fork, other than wider for fat tires? More travel would be a great start along with a 150mm axle.

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    As mentioned above, wait and see until Sea Otter
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    The tire clearance is supposed to be "more than RS Bluto".
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    I'm hoping it has fatter stanchions than Bluto.
    I like turtles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Jekyl View Post
    sure, the minute i finally break down and buy a fork, another one hits the market...
    hmmmm...I have a BNIB Bluto to install too...maybe I will wait it out.

    a wider version of the Magnum? The Magnum was factory on the Stache but it's pretty expensive aftermarket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    The tire clearance is supposed to be "more than RS Bluto".
    Obvious if it fits the 27.5x4.5" tire.
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    As far as a name for a fat fork goes, "Mastadon" wins, hands-down.

    Looking forward to seeing more on this one. So far, the other options have left me a little meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Will be released at Sea Otter in April.
    Which is next month!

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    Curious to see this thing and hope it is 34mm. Nice name though!
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    i hope it clears snowshoe 2xl tires. ill find out at sea otter
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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    34mm and fits the 4.5"x27.5"
    As posted and quoted from earlier in the thread, it does have 34mm stanchions according to the Trek info I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    As posted and quoted from earlier in the thread, it does have 34mm stanchions according to the Trek info I've seen.
    can you share a link?
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    He would have to kill you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MozFat View Post
    He would have to kill you
    ^ wut he said

    You gotta wait for the April release at Sea Otter, that's the way it works, keep the secret, build the excitement, then BOOM!

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    34mm stanchions. clears 5.2 tires. 80-140mm travel would be awsome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    34mm stanchions. clears 5.2 tires. 80-140mm travel would be awsome.
    Yes.
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    and 2.0lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    34mm stanchions. clears 5.2 tires. 80-140mm travel would be awsome.
    And seals that don't blow up in the cold...

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    It'll be a great fork because it doesn't take much to do better than what we have.

    I'm not a Trek fan boy, but big buying power has it's benefits.

    This is the fork we've been waiting for, hopefully more companies will follow suit.

    I'll take two please, 120mm and 140mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    It'll be a great fork because it doesn't take much to do better than what we have.

    I'm not a Trek fan boy, but big buying power has it's benefits.

    This is the fork we've been waiting for, hopefully more companies will follow suit.

    I'll take two please, 120mm and 140mm
    Come' on Ben. You'll ride it for a while and then it it'll either be too flexy for your new tandem or too heavy for your Beargrease and you'll be wanting something better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    It'll be a great fork because it doesn't take much to do better than what we have.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    I just got back from BC, I used all of my suspension, over and over, about ever fifteen to twenty feet down the trail! If I'd had a Bluto I would have skipped the advanced trails, but with the Wren I hung with the big boys/girl.

    The Wren is a solid fork, no real weaknesses, I'm not even thinking about the loose steerer. Front end wiggle is there, but you can only notice it when the bike is in a stand, on the trail it is a non issue; typical inverted fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantTurd View Post
    Guy I ride with has the 29+ Manipou fork, we have been riding for over 30 years, and he claims it is the best fork he has ever had. Pretty excited to get a fat one (3 in fact). Before that we both thought the Marzocchi Ti 44 140mm 29er fork was excellent and what we used as a benchmark.

    Current Manitou forks are both awesome and underrated. Funky thru-axle turns some people off, but what one fork works for everybody?

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    Saw two in the wild here in WI last week. They were going past me the other way. Didn't realize what I was seeing at first. Looked like they had 5 inch tires and since they were Hayes employees, thinking they were riding Mulefuts - so at least 80 wide rims and there was a lot of space around the fork.

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    I love threads like this, so much redirected emotion, it's almost TGResque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    Come' on Ben. You'll ride it for a while and then it it'll either be too flexy for your new tandem or too heavy for your Beargrease and you'll be wanting something better
    Beargrease and tandem are sold. Wren forks are long gone. Haven't you been following my feed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    ...it's almost TGResque.
    Bonus points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Beargrease and tandem are sold. Wren forks are long gone. Haven't you been following my feed?
    You have a blog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    You have a blog?
    Sure, doesn't everyone? ; )

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    This new Manitou will probably be OEM only for now...just like the RS Pike and Yari for 29+...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    This new Manitou will probably be OEM only for now...just like the RS Pike and Yari for 29+...
    I'm betting ( hoping!) not, they rolled out the Plus Magnums to the aftermarket crowd pretty quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    I'm betting ( hoping!) not, they rolled out the Plus Magnums to the aftermarket crowd pretty quickly.
    You're probably right! I just get soured on "vaporware".

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    cant wait for these forks to come out.

    i hope they have black stanchions
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    cant wait for these forks to come out.

    i hope they have black stanchions
    Black stanchions are important? Seriously?

    I feel a headache coming on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    Black stanchions are important? Seriously?

    I feel a headache coming on....
    of course its important. its all about the color way
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    Extinct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnek1999 View Post
    I've heard that Treks are being spec'd with this new fork from Manitou. Has anyone heard any details?

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    The suspension guys at the Sedona mtb fest kept hinting strongly about "another" fork offering coming up. Even the RockShox guys were starting to hint at a fat Pike, though that one sounded longer off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    The suspension guys at the Sedona mtb fest kept hinting strongly about "another" fork offering coming up. Even the RockShox guys were starting to hint at a fat Pike, though that one sounded longer off.
    Ooooh, choices, I like choices!

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    I saw it in person at Winterbike up in Burke VT this year. Comfortably held a 2xl.
    The guy riding it said it would blow through it's travel pretty easily - which is what I found with the Manitou Minute 29 fork I had a few years ago. Maybe that can be fixed with some volume adjustment some how. Looked good, and super wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgVT View Post
    The guy riding it said it would blow through it's travel pretty easily
    First samples did this. Engineers immediately noticed it. Already been addressed.

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    This thread is giving me wood.

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    Good thing I just sold a new in the box Bluto! My Lauf Carbonara may be the next to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgVT View Post
    I saw it in person at Winterbike up in Burke VT this year. Comfortably held a 2xl.
    The guy riding it said it would blow through it's travel pretty easily - which is what I found with the Manitou Minute 29 fork I had a few years ago. Maybe that can be fixed with some volume adjustment some how. Looked good, and super wide.
    The abs+ and mc dampers they use are easily revalved. Manitou even publish the dyno charts and sell the shim kits.

    The 34mm forks also have spacer (iva) systems or third air chamber kits (irt) which drop in the top.

    Happiness is only half an hour away. Maybe 1.5 hours if you need a firmer MARS spring in the minute as you need to drop the lowers off to reach that.

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    Yeah, i talked to a guy who live 5 mins from manitou HQ he test rode it. he said it was awesome. he cant tell me anything more. lol
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    to add more fuel to the fire:

    just got off the phone with a manufacturer regarding tech questions on a frame. we started talking about suspension fork compatibility, and he inadvertently dropped "mastodon" into the conversation. i asked him what he knew, and he started saying it is bigger then previous forks and may have clearance issues on some frames. i then pressed him for more info, and he then said he knew nothing...

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    Great that new fat forks are made.

    Is this somehow related ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by enemy1 View Post
    Great that new fat forks are made.

    Is this somehow related ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
    Wow, great find.
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    Boooo lol terrible link

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    Sorry, spoiler hint.
    Hahaha, that link was funny, but I closed it in 2 seconds.
    Strange how the mind can remember music so easily.
    Now I will have that song running through my head for days.
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    To my defense I saw the link on Sharks' myspace...

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    Go to your trek dealer

    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    34mm stanchions. clears 5.2 tires. 80-140mm travel would be awsome.
    My trek dealer showed me the new Farley ex 9.8 and it comes with the Manitou Mastodon forks. The 8 does not. No specs were given though, except the stanchions are 34 mm.

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    Sorry for the quality

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    Here ya go guys. Gotta warn you though. This thing is related to bigfoot and we all know how well bigfoot photographs!

    Manitou Mastodon?-manitou-mastodon.jpg

    We'll try to get some stuff up on Instagram too: https://www.instagram.com/shockcraftsuspension/
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    It's out of the bag, boom!

    So I have a Bluto for sale, anyone?

    It'll probably fetch $25....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    It's out of the bag, boom!

    So I have a Bluto for sale, anyone?

    It'll probably fetch $25....
    I'll give you $25.00 for it!
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    Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who liked the Bluto. Mine worked great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who liked the Bluto. Mine worked great.
    yeah i was fine with it. I just bought another Bluto for my Farley. I had one previously on my Mayor.
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    Was going to buy a Bluto but now I'll play the waiting game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who liked the Bluto. Mine worked great.
    Good bit happier with my A3 Bluto RCT3 than I was with my A1 Bluto RL. Could be stiffer though.
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    Is it 153mm Boost Plus Fat rear disc front spacing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-opski View Post
    Is it 153mm Boost Plus Fat rear disc front spacing?
    Die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    Good bit happier with my A3 Bluto RCT3 than I was with my A1 Bluto RL. Could be stiffer though.
    Mine didn't come to life until the mechanic installed the cold weather seal kit and smeared some slick honey in it somewhere, and added the correct amount of oil. I knew after the first curb it was a whole new ball game. But yeah, it ain't gonna win any awards, but I always thought it was way better than people gave it credit for to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Die!
    Come on Jay. It would not be fat biking if they didn't change the standard on us now. Don't worry Problem Solvers and Wolftooth will make an adapters.
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    Any word on msrp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by travisjgood View Post
    Any word on msrp?
    Sea Otter will have the details. April 22-23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travisjgood View Post
    Any word on msrp?
    If it does all the things they claim; 80-150mm travel, 34mm stanchions, good damping, etc... It'll be worth whatever Manitou is asking.

    I can use the $25 from my Bluto to cover some the cost

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    150mm front spacing I hope. It looks like it but can someone confirm?

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    Sea Otter will have the details. April 22-23.
    Considering the last line... I agree....

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/manito...ycle-show.html

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    I love my Wren, currently set at 140mm... but at least there are choices between the funky inverted monster and the wet noodle Bluto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Wow, great find.
    Is that seriously the video for that song? That was funny as hell. I feel slightly less manly having watched it though.
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    What is wrong with Fox... make a dang Fat bike fork. A 36 with 140mm travel would be the ticket. I've never had a Manitou I liked. I hope this is a good fork regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
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    That seems whacked as ****, the MC2 has the ABS+ knob and the ABS+ has the MC2 knob? Maybe the tapewall version with the cartridge damper is 200g heavier, but that seems suspect too. And they don't even get HBO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ntm1973 View Post
    150mm front spacing I hope. It looks like it but can someone confirm?
    why would it be anything but 150?

    If the manufacturers have settled on anything...it's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    That seems whacked as ****, the MC2 has the ABS+ knob and the ABS+ has the MC2 knob? Maybe the tapewall version with the cartridge damper is 200g heavier, but that seems suspect too. And they don't even get HBO.
    That sheet has a lot of errors. Just wait until Sea-Otter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    That sheet has a lot of errors. Just wait until Sea-Otter.
    All that matters is the delivery date.

    Based on what I've seen and heard, I'd buy the Pro version today.

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    A really good fork and great tires in the 3.5-3.8 range on carbon rims on a dually "fat bike" is going to be the magical unicorn rainbow carpet ride. We're gonna look at 2.8s and call them skinny.

    Trek is going in the right direction with the 27.5s and lowering/stiffening the sidewalls.

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    Thanks (and to everyone else who's posted news); keep the info coming, folks! Can't wait to hear more about this once extinct mammal.

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    Hats off to Maintou! Looks like the same tech as Magnum (Mattoc). I put a Magnum Pro on my Krampus about a year ago and have been very happy with it. Bit of a learning curve on the adjustments, but other than that it is a great fork.

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    I need that fork for this coming summer. I had a Bluto before and hated it so now I'm riding my solid fork.

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    any speculation on price? I am going to throw random numbers out there:

    $779 for the comp and $949 for the pro.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Jekyl View Post
    any speculation on price? I am going to throw random numbers out there:

    $779 for the comp and $949 for the pro.

    $579 comp
    $799 pro
    Not msrp...just hopeful. Manitou forks usually drop down in price after awhile on the market. Picked up my Marvel Pro for $600! We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Jekyl View Post
    any speculation on price? I am going to throw random numbers out there:

    $779 for the comp and $949 for the pro.

    If I were manitou, I would charge at least this for the first 6 months/yr...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney Jekyl View Post
    any speculation on price? I am going to throw random numbers out there:

    $779 for the comp and $949 for the pro.

    I was wondering this myself; I'd say as MSRP those are pretty good guesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    The abs+ and mc dampers they use are easily revalved. Manitou even publish the dyno charts and sell the shim kits.

    The 34mm forks also have spacer (iva) systems or third air chamber kits (irt) which drop in the top.

    Happiness is only half an hour away. Maybe 1.5 hours if you need a firmer MARS spring in the minute as you need to drop the lowers off to reach that.

    Sent with 100% recycled electrons.

    Stock IVA is great for non-fiddling types. IRT can make 98% of the rest of us happy.

    Suspension these days is awesome -- so good out of the box, so tunable, and relatively light considering capability.

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    Anyone hear a better release date than this fall? I had to give my loaner Bluto back and don't really want to buy one right before their resale value tanks.

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    Again, it has been stated we will know more during Sea Otter classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello-dirt View Post
    Again, it has been stated we will know more during Sea Otter classic.
    what is see odder classic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-opski View Post
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    Sea Otter Classic - April 20-23, 2017 - Monterey, California, USA (Powered by SRAM) -

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello-dirt View Post
    Again, it has been stated we will know more during Sea Otter classic.
    How about now?
    Any news yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    How about now?
    Any news yet?
    If tomorrow falls between April 20th and 23rd, then we should know tomorrow.
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