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    Like the Schlick Cycles Northpaw, what's the tubing??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
    NVPatthy,
    untill I turned my sandman into a 29'er the heaviest 29'er in the wide area was 12,5 kg or 27,5lbs
    I guess that the hoggar with arch rims and slant 6 tires and lots of latex will stay under 30 lbs, with
    I must add that most bikes around here are still 26'ers, it are the more ambitious guys that go for the 29'er first. On the other hand, my 11 kg 26'er fully is certainly not the lightest bike around either.
    any pics of a 29er thats 20lbs or less??

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    i do not take a lot of pics,
    but here: houffalize MTB - YouTube There were 3 under 20 lbs 29'ers and the most heavy one from the hood!

    Go to a specialised, merida or cannondale dealer and ask for a light 29'er, and then you can start changin parts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I had my Moonlander weighing in at just under 29.5 today... with cyclocross wheels. I rode it out of the house then turned around because I felt stupid.
    More stupid than riding a clown bike? (Which is what my girlfriend calls my fatbike)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    any pics of a 29er thats 20lbs or less??
    Here's one:
    Pro Bike: Jeremiah Bishop's Cannondale Flash Carbon 29er - BikeRadar

    The 26" version of this was under 18 lbs. in stock trim. Listed for $9600!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Here's one:
    Pro Bike: Jeremiah Bishop's Cannondale Flash Carbon 29er - BikeRadar

    The 26" version of this was under 18 lbs. in stock trim. Listed for $9600!
    My damn roadie is 18lbs for fugg sakes man!! As i suspected a 29er HT at or below 20lbs is obtainable but very very rare as the cost for the vast majority is prohibitively painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    I would like to build a Marge lite to a Paul WHUB with DT competition.
    my build except W tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    any pics of a 29er thats 20lbs or less??
    Heres my One9, 7.66kg or 16.88lb. I run racing ralphs on it usually but fitted these freds up for a weigh in. My fatty is DOUBLE the weight of this at 33.5lb



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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    Heres my One9, 7.66kg or 16.88lb. I run racing ralphs on it usually but fitted these freds up for a weigh in. My fatty is DOUBLE the weight of this at 33.5lb
    i should have specified HT with squishy front even if you had a squishy front it may still be right at 20lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    any pics of a 29er thats 20lbs or less??
    18lbs - 18 lb niner single speed a9c w lefty

    14.8lbs - Dream Bike: Sebastian Roth's Cannondale Flash 29

    With enough money, a knowledgeable bike nut can do just about anything

    With the current frame, crankset and wheel/tire selections, I bet someone could build a sub 20lb fatbike. Now somebody just has to do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    18lbs - 18 lb niner single speed a9c w lefty

    14.8lbs - Dream Bike: Sebastian Roth's Cannondale Flash 29

    With enough money, a knowledgeable bike nut can do just about anything

    With the current frame, crankset and wheel/tire selections, I bet someone could build a sub 20lb fatbike. Now somebody just has to do it!
    Oh i agree cash is king. A sub 20lb fattie would be quite spendy just like these 29ers people are posting links for cost 6,8 10k thats not the norm and most likely within the 10% grp. It would take a CF frame/fork/wheels and SS to get a fattie close to 20lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    It would take a CF frame/fork/wheels and SS to get a fattie close to 20lbs.
    Yeah and i reckon it would only be close too. The wheels are the killer but thats what the bike is all about
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    ^ There's no reason why someone coudn't build CF fat bike frames and rims, and in fact CF would probably be better for the wheels if anything, as light, stiff and not much pressure to retain, plus little chance of bottoming the tyres out and cracking the rim flanges. I doubt there's enough demand to justify the mould costs though, especially for a frame, but no reason why a carbon tube frame couldn't work; Drew Diller built one from bamboo and put up pics in a thread here.

    I doubt that more than say ~500g could be shaved off the frame compared to what's out there now, and maybe another 200g or so (depending on width) off each of the rims. Call it 1kg. Hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    You'd have to build with some STUPID weight weenie parts and the rough math in my head is still coming out high 21, maybe low 22lb. I agree with the sentiment, "why"? They are fatbikes after all I don't see a problem building one weight conscious and getting to 23-24lb range but why would anyone want the lightest fatbike that basically would crumble if used as intended? I think we will have to weight a couple years for the carbon components to come flowing in before we see sub 20lbs OR a 20lber that can actually be abused in the elements.
    agree with your sentiments

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    There's a 13lb Niner Air9 Carbon floating around out there. User MATTKOCK if I remember right. You'd have to build with some STUPID weight weenie parts and the rough math in my head is still coming out high 21, maybe low 22lb. I agree with the sentiment, "why"? They are fatbikes after all I don't see a problem building one weight conscious and getting to 23-24lb range but why would anyone want the lightest fatbike that basically would crumble if used as intended? I think we will have to weight a couple years for the carbon components to come flowing in before we see sub 20lbs OR a 20lber that can actually be abused in the elements.

    Wouldn't sand wreak havoc on carbon?

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    While on the subject of weight, what does the 18inch, RAW, $2300, "Deluxe" Fatback complete bike weigh bone stock? Just curious how light I could get it with the ole parts bin

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    While on the subject of weight, what does the 18inch, RAW, $2300, "Deluxe" Fatback complete bike weigh bone stock? Just curious how light I could get it with the ole parts bin
    therein lies the challenge.

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    trouble is with fatbikes, youve got about what 4-5 lbs in tyres, thats a large percentage of a 20 lb bike

    and I assume we would be talking singlespeed

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    dead10 and I chatted about building a carbon frame, which should be a fun thing to do. But it's not like that'd be a production solution, and my current project isn't done yet, to say the least.

    I can see the appeal of a light fattie for certain trails, but not everything. A buddy finished a Ti Mukluk and put light weight stuff on it in SS mode - I'd say less than 25 pounds, as a guess. The thing felt like a sprite, for a fat bike. And for the trail that that guy actually stewards, it's perfect.
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    For the trail riding where it pays off to take the fat tires, I wouldn't dare to go weight weenie!
    The thing about lightweigt stuff is that, in general, these things desintegrate if I use them.

    For a beach or snowride a weight weenie fatbike with fixed front, no adjustable seatpost, lightweight components would be ok I guess.

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    I think there are three questions here:

    1. What's the lightest bike that can be built?
    2. What's the lightest *practical* bike that can be built?
    3. How much money are people prepared to throw at it to save not much weght?

    The answers to questions 1 & 3 are likely to be quite different to #2, which is where I"d be going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cozz View Post
    trouble is with fatbikes, youve got about what 4-5 lbs in tyres, thats a large percentage of a 20 lb bike

    and I assume we would be talking singlespeed
    Whats the lightest 170/135 hubset ?

    If we went
    Hopes F&R = 250+349
    Supercomp+nipples x 64 = 340ish
    Marge Lites = 690 x 2
    Larry ultralites = 1200 x 2
    Total = 4719g for a fat wheelset without valves or rimstrips.

    So with tubeless sealant, valves and rim strips its a ballpark of 5kg (11lb) for the wheels alone

    With a frame and forks coming in at approx 2.5kg thats leaving 1.5kg for everything else.

    20lbs = 9072g
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    Here's what can be done with light but not stupid light parts. It is a couple of generations old probably won't fit BFL's on 100's but it still works for me.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Lightest Fatbike-p1020693-1-.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    Here's what can be done with light but not stupid light parts. It is a couple of generations old probably won't fit BFL's on 100's but it still works for me.
    It is Ti yes?? pretty impressive given a fully geared with mech stoppers etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    It is Ti yes?? pretty impressive given a fully geared with mech stoppers etc.
    Ti it is. Basically it's the same frame as Thirsty posted early in this thread. Mine is 3# heavier but a little more user friendly since it has pedals, front brake, bar ends, etc. Also this is summer trim with light rims. Winter setup adds a pound to a pound and a half.
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