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    lighter gearing options for pugsley

    I'm looking to lighten up my pugsley a bit with some lighter gearing. Currently I'm running the stock 3x9 setup. i was wondering what lighter rear cassette options are out there than my current shimano hg cs-hg61-9 11t.

    I wouldn't mind switching to a 1x10 or 1x11, but i don't really know where to start on those.

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    I would look at 1x10 or 1x11. If your rolling in dough go 1x11.
    If not.........

    You can setup 1x10 and just mod your cassette a bit (If you still need the range like me, aka lotahillz). Here are some options/additional reading...
    Action Tec Home Page They do a 38t and 39t cog, theres info about this over at Drivetrain - shifters, derailleurs, cranks

    BTI | Cassettes from SRAM for reference

    First Look: General Lee Wide-Range Cassette Adapter - Pinkbike
    SRAM XX: 11-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36
    SRAM XX1: 10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36-42
    SRAM 1070 with General Lee adapter: 11-12-14-16-18-21-25-29-34-40

    And don't forget you can gear down a bit up front with wolftoothcomponents.com they have a 30t in 104BCD, or if your going 1x11 they get even smaller.

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    Re: lighter gearing options for pugsley

    i bought the wolftooth 30t now i use all the gears, very impressive on one fatty 10 speed

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    For ultimate lightness, why not singlespeed it?
    As little bike as possible, as silent as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    For ultimate lightness, why not singlespeed it?
    Because I'm not beastly enough to ride a single speed.

    I was looking around, and it seems like the lightest 9 speed cassette thats reasonably priced is the Xtr m970 for $140 through department of goods. that should drop 4 ounces of rotating mass off my rear wheel without having to pony up the cash for a new 10 speed derailleur and trigger.

    if i ran a 11-34T version, maybe i could see about getting a 28T single front crank and running a 1x9 setup?

    My budget is around $300

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    SRAM 990 cassette is lighter than what you have now and I've seen 'em on ebay new for $70. Could find a lighter chain too....but you might as well wear out what you have first as there's nothing wrong with it.

    Relacing the rear wheel to a lighter hub could cut a lot of weight off the bike too (that Deore hub is a porker). While you're at it, go with double-butted spokes for less weight and better strength.

    If you don't need the big ring on your crankset, remove that as well. Throw a bash guard on it instead.

    And, if you haven't already ditched the heavy Surly tubes, get the lighter Q tubes or go tubeless.

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    The XTR is a good way to go. Given that the mass of the cassette is very near the axle I'm not sure the rotating weight is that important but in the lighten up the bike context a 4 oz savings is not bad. You could also consider going to 2 by 9 with a 22 36 in front. It saves a little weight by losing the big chainring and still leaves a good gear range. Depending on the chainrings used you might need a bash guard to keep the chain from overshifting which negates most of the weight savings but there is still something to be said for 2 X 9 in terms of simplifying the bike, and shifting, just a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sickmtbnutcase View Post
    SRAM 990 cassette is lighter than what you have now and I've seen 'em on ebay new for $70. Could find a lighter chain too....but you might as well wear out what you have first as there's nothing wrong with it.

    Relacing the rear wheel to a lighter hub could cut a lot of weight off the bike too (that Deore hub is a porker). While you're at it, go with double-butted spokes for less weight and better strength.

    If you don't need the big ring on your crankset, remove that as well. Throw a bash guard on it instead.

    And, if you haven't already ditched the heavy Surly tubes, get the lighter Q tubes or go tubeless.
    yup the PG990 is xcellent with 6 rings attached to the carrier. Q toob it indeed.

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    Its already tubeless with 120tpi nates. shaved 2.4 lbs off by switching from the 27tpi larry/endos and the stock surly tubes. I will be doing a wheel swap since it's running large marges and stock hubs, but that'll be down the road.

    The cassette is showing a bit of wear, which is why i don't mind replacing that. i don't really want to buy a new front derailure/front trigger, so that's why i was thinking the 1x9. it looks like the xtr is lighter than the pg990 too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stesteste View Post
    i bought the wolftooth 30t now i use all the gears, very impressive on one fatty 10 speed
    Do you need the chain guide on?

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    Re: lighter gearing options for pugsley

    Quote Originally Posted by OFFcourse View Post
    Do you need the chain guide on?
    no but i was in testing so left it on for now i will take off next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn_nut View Post
    Because I'm not beastly enough to ride a single speed....
    It's really over-rated as a manly pursuit. It's actually quite easy - it's more technique than muscle. 2-4 weeks is all you need to get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    It's really over-rated as a manly pursuit. It's actually quite easy - it's more technique than muscle. 2-4 weeks is all you need to get there.
    Theres a lot of hills around here, so i think keeping some gearing is best too.

    so i pulled the trigger and got the xtr cassette (11-34).

    Does anyone have any advice on a single ring crankset that will fit the pugsley well, and hopefully have a 26T ring. I've got around $160 left for it right now.

    thanks

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    I think the only cranksets that will take a 26t single ring are the spiderless ones, or an X9 with an XX1 spider. These options are all over $160 I suppose you could just run a single 26t 4x64mm bcd chainring on a 2x10 style crankset, but the chainline would be off a little toward the inside(lower gears), making the higher gears a little less efficient and wear prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFcourse View Post
    You can setup 1x10 and just mod your cassette a bit (If you still need the range like me, aka lotahillz). Here are some options/additional reading...
    Action Tec Home Page They do a 38t and 39t cog, theres info about this over at Drivetrain - shifters, derailleurs, cranks

    BTI | Cassettes from SRAM for reference

    First Look: General Lee Wide-Range Cassette Adapter - Pinkbike
    SRAM XX: 11-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36
    SRAM XX1: 10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36-42
    SRAM 1070 with General Lee adapter: 11-12-14-16-18-21-25-29-34-40

    And don't forget you can gear down a bit up front with wolftoothcomponents.com they have a 30t in 104BCD, or if your going 1x11 they get even smaller.
    Wow, that is the first I have seen of the General Lee adapter cogs.

    What if I were to combine those 25-40t cogs with the middle two gears of a 1070 cassette on which I already have the top 4 9-16t gears from my microdrive from Canfield Bros?

    What derailleur could handle a 9-40t cassette?

    that would definitely give me a 1x10 with the same range as XX1.
    Actually, more than XX1, and a lot of 2x10s

    1x10 with 9-40t = 444% range
    2x10 with 11-32 , 24/36 = 436%
    XX1(10-42) = 420%.

    the cassette would have fairly even steps too, with a 9-11-13-16-18-21-25-29-34-40. you get a 22%, 18%, 23%,12.5%,16%,19%,16%,17.2%,18% jump per gear change.

    a 9-10-12-15-18-21-25-29-34-40 would be better though. Combine that with a 30t front sprocket on a fatbike or 29er and you would have enough range to go anywhere.
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    I recall reading that you can't put a 9t cog on most of the rear hubs (11t+ only). I just came across this tho 9t Microdrive Conversion Cogs - 9t Microdrive

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