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    Kona Fat Bike

    Has this been shared yet? It was posted by a rep from another Canadian bike company on my Facebook feed.
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    Just saw that myself. $1799.00 and that shop is taking pre-orders already. Crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Just saw that myself. $1799.00 and that shop is taking pre-orders already. Crazy!
    Did you see it posted by Jason at Norco? Is it possible that we have the same friend?

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    US pricing listed at $1699. Specs were released as follows.

    KONA WO Specs

    CATEGORY: Fat Bike

    MODEL: WO

    FRAME MATERIAL: Kona 6061 Aluminum Butted

    SIZES: S, M, L, XL

    Fork: Kona P2 Fat Disc

    Crankarms: FSA

    Chainrings: 24/36/Guard

    B/B: FSA ISIS

    Pedals: Wellgo Platform

    Chain: KMC

    Freewheel: Shimano HG20 11-34t 9 spd

    F/D: Shimano SLX

    R/D: Shimano Deore Shadow

    Shifters: Shimano Alivio

    Brake Calipers: Tektro Mechanical

    Front Brake Rotor: Tektro 160mm

    Rear Brake Rotor: Tektro 160mm

    Brake Levers: Tektro ML330

    Headset: TH Internal

    Handlebar: Kona Handplant

    Stem: Kona XC/Road

    Seatpost: Kona Double Clamp

    Seat Clamp: Kona Thumb OB

    Grips: Kona SLOG

    Saddle: Kona Fat

    Front Hub: Joytech 135mm

    Rear Hub: Joytech 170mm

    Spokes: Stainless 14g

    Rims: Jetset

    Front Tire: Vee Rubber 26x4.0"

    Rear Tire: Vee Rubber 26x4.0"

    Paint Color: Matt Black w/Grey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
    Did you see it posted by Jason at Norco? Is it possible that we have the same friend?
    Kootenay Bike shop is who I saw post it.
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    It looks like Jason shared it from Kootenay Bike Shop, so we both saw the same source.

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    I just put a deposit on a ute and was going to throw my gazzis in it.
    I'll take a pic when i'm done, should look nearly identical!
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    Oh yeah, they state that it is spec'd with 4" tires but the fork has room for more. Sounds like Bud and Lou are out for the rear and probably BFLs as well.
    I'm guessing the Vee rubber tire they talk about is the mission, but who knows. Also wondering if they are going to spec a trials width rim from Jetset or if there is something wider in the works from them.

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    9 speed, Alivio shifters, and ISIS BB are rather disappointing. Joytech hubs and Jetset rims are probably similar to the On-One Fatty. If the Vee rubber tires are their current models, then they're real heavy; it would be a good thing if Kona has Vee making a new, lighter tire for them. I guess that we'll see...

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    And, it begins. It looks like a competent attempt at making a competitor to the pugsley. The rear dropouts are a serious improvement over the pugsley. I like the rear brake mount on the chainstay. Frame looks like a frame. The big question is gonna be, what is a jetset rim and what are those vee rubber tires? As for the rest of the parts, nothing fancy.

    Be interesting to see how it handles...

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    Jetset has a new singlewall 70 on their website
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeG View Post
    9 speed, Alivio shifters, and ISIS BB are rather disappointing. Joytech hubs and Jetset rims are probably similar to the On-One Fatty. If the Vee rubber tires are their current models, then they're real heavy; it would be a good thing if Kona has Vee making a new, lighter tire for them. I guess that we'll see...
    I will say that the new Alivio shifters feel pretty good. Better than 4 years ago deore 9 speed shifters. With X7 cranks as an option it would have been nice to see something better than Isis for sure. I'm not familiar with the wheels from the Fatty. Honestly, I dealt with the guys from Planet X a few years ago and they were complete asses. I was an On-one fan until then, but now I would never buy one of their bikes. Because of that I haven't paid attention to their offering, much to my own detriment of knowledge.
    I can't imagine Kona has the pull to have Vee make something better. If it's better than the mission or the origin8 stuff I'm guessing it was in the pipeline before Kona asked. Could be wrong on that though. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens.

    Oh yeah, and Tektro Mechanicals!? Seriously!? Not on a $1700 bike with no suspension. The $499 Lanai comes with Tektro mechanicals. Even their $700 hardtails come with hydros. To me, that's a joke. Plan on shelling out more $$$ on an instant brake upgrade with that bike.

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    The geometry is something I would like to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOS View Post
    Oh yeah, and Tektro Mechanicals!? Seriously!? Not on a $1700 bike with no suspension. The $499 Lanai comes with Tektro mechanicals. Even their $700 hardtails come with hydros. To me, that's a joke. Plan on shelling out more $$$ on an instant brake upgrade with that bike.
    I agree. Given the price, I'm somewhat disappointed in the build. Same price as a Pugsley, but at least with the Pug you get BB7s and Marge Lites and not-Joytech hubs.
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    I think people looking for innovation from Kona, Trek, Specialized, etc. are going to be sorely disappointed, at least for now. The point now is to take advantage of hype and dealer networks to sell a hot item at a premium price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I think people looking for innovation from Kona, Trek, Specialized, etc. are going to be sorely disappointed, at least for now. The point now is to take advantage of hype and dealer networks to sell a hot item at a premium price.
    Agreed. THis is a test. if it works, it'll get more dollars for development. but for now, this is just a toe in the water. However, even for such a small test, they got someone else to make a 70mm rim. that means potentially one more rim option on the market.

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    Re: Kona Fat Bike

    Meh...

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    What's with the 24 X 34 granny gear. Not enough for my riding, not even close.

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    Interested in Geometry and thinking that the 1699 may be a bit high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckfiddious View Post
    Agreed. THis is a test. if it works, it'll get more dollars for development. but for now, this is just a toe in the water. However, even for such a small test, they got someone else to make a 70mm rim. that means potentially one more rim option on the market.
    Do we know it's a 70mm rim? I assumed it was the same as the On One Fatty, so not a specific Kona item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    I think people looking for innovation from Kona, Trek, Specialized, etc. are going to be sorely disappointed, at least for now. The point now is to take advantage of hype and dealer networks to sell a hot item at a premium price.
    Word. I'm just hoping tires get cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    Do we know it's a 70mm rim? I assumed it was the same as the On One Fatty, so not a specific Kona item.
    On jetset's website, there's a new single wall 70 mm rim listed. Also a bunch of cool looking trials rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    Do we know it's a 70mm rim? I assumed it was the same as the On One Fatty, so not a specific Kona item.

    From Jetset's website:
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    The 70mm rim is the Jetset HC-517S if you want to search for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    ...that shop is taking pre-orders already. Crazy!
    Have they given a delivery date?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Have they given a delivery date?

    They were saying August. But ya know how that can go....
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    Yeesh. What, pray tell, makes that justify a $1,700 msrp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Yeesh. What, pray tell, makes that justify a $1,700 msrp?
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    I guess it could be worth the asking price if the frame is really nice(light).
    those HC-517S rims are the OnOne Fatty rims.
    Hopefully those rims, the joytech hubs and OnOne floater tires, as well as whatever tire Kona will be using all become available as replacement parts somewhere.

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    See, what I don't get though is a nice frame with crappy parts wouldn't make sense, because if one inevitably wants to upgrade those parts, they will spend wayyyyy more money than buying, say, a Pugsley to begin with.
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    you ever see a bike sold for MSRP?
    like EVER???
    MSRP is irrelevant, I'd expect it at 1499.
    more'n fine, but until i see geo sheets to convince me it'll be quick, it reminds me of a fat-tired ute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byknuts View Post
    you ever see a bike sold for MSRP?
    like EVER???
    Yes....frequently in small markets [I live in Canada so feel my pain! My MSRP is usually more than the US MSRP. ] - especially if you are special ordering in something the LBS doesn't stock.

    I just ordered a new frame and paid MSRP to support my LBS. I could have saved some $$$ buying mailorder from the US, but I knew I'd be riding that frame with guys from the LBS so that seemed like a bad idea!

    OTOH - Kona seems to regularly blow out their over stock at the end of the season so if you can't get a deal right away and they don't blow through their inventory you might just scoop up a Kona fatty on clearance.
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    I pay MSRP for any bike I have to have my shop special order. Gladly- i want them to make money and prosper. So, like all my Surlys. And my Transition Bandit 29. If I would have bought a Specialized from them, they'd discount it I'm sure. But I suppose in this context, if it is a Kona dealer with fatbikes in stock, sure, I'd assume a 10% discount if supply was plentiful.

    But then again, who factors in discounts when making comparisons? Especially if these bikes are hard to get, I can't imagine they'd be discounted right at release.

    If anything, like others have said, this should provide more parts options, so that's cool.
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    hey Vik, I'm in Bob n Doug-land as well.
    Still, don't think I've ever seen a bike at MSRP on the shop floor.
    But to be fair- I don't regularly look at "this year" models so maybe my view's skewed.
    My Ute for example is 675$. So ummm... yeah, well below msrp.
    I'm just hoping Kona steps up to make enough for there to be decent stock in any shop that wants them.
    I'm not buying Surly anymore for a reason...
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    No room for 100's or a Lou? Won't be on my radar. Already owned a skinny fatbike.
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    I would cautiously speculate that the Wo is directed towards the all seasons crowd, much like the On-One, rather than the snow-specific market that fatbikes were originally adopted by...just pure speculation on my part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    I would cautiously speculate that the Wo is directed towards the all seasons crowd, much like the On-One, rather than the snow-specific market that fatbikes were originally adopted by...just pure speculation on my part...
    For sure. I doubt any of the big guys will jump on hundo's and big tires.
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    No sliding dropouts is a bummer for me... I'm out unless the geo is amazing. I'm a Kona fan-boy too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeG View Post
    From Jetset's website:
    JETSET - PRODUCTS
    That new 70mm rim is my original 70mm without a bead lock from 2008.
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    Love Kona as a company...but for $50 more you get a Muk 3 with BB7's, Rolling Darryls, Formula hubs and Nates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugeye View Post
    Love Kona as a company...but for $50 more you get a Muk 3 with BB7's, Rolling Darryls, Formula hubs and Nates.
    Exaaaactly.
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    As long as they sell surlys in yer town...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugeye View Post
    Love Kona as a company...but for $50 more you get a Muk 3 with BB7's, Rolling Darryls, Formula hubs and Nates.
    and you can mail order Salsa Mukluks if you don't have a Salsa dealer locally or if your LBS has a QBP account they can call Salsa and work out a one time order if they have stock.

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    I have a local Kona dealer close to my house. I will be interested to see if they stock a fat bike or don't bother since we don't have snow.
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    So, the market for this bike is:
    A) People who really like the Kona brand.
    B) People who really dislike QBP/Surly/Salsa.
    C) People who want a bike that's in stock (maybe) when Surly's and Salsa's aren't?

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    Is there a chance that the MSRP was misreported?

    MSRP's are not irrelevant for Kona. MSRP's are irrelevant at, like, Performance Bike, or Bikes Direct, but not Kona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    So, the market for this bike is:
    A) People who really like the Kona brand.
    B) People who really dislike QBP/Surly/Salsa.
    C) People who want a bike that's in stock (maybe) when Surly's and Salsa's aren't?
    That'd be my guess, too.

    Kona makes good bikes, bikes that are known to work. Remember, for most folks, Surly makes frames for people with piercings and tattoos who think showers are optional... and salsa makes skewers.

    It's really hard to commit to buying something as weird as a fatbike without a test ride. That's why I'm on a pugsley instead of a Salsa. The mukluk may be a better bike in every way but if I can't test ride something that different, I'm not gonna buy it.

    no matter what, it's another option. THat's cool no matter how you slice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    C) People who want a bike that's in stock (maybe) when Surly's and Salsa's aren't?
    That's the key. If a Kona dealer brings in a fat bike for the showroom floor in a LBS that doesn't otherwise stock fatbikes you might covert some folks who would otherwise not buy a fatty.

    Having said that I was just at a LBS that is a solid Surly dealer that doesn't want to bring in any Pugs or MLs because they don't see a market for them - read into that none of the main store employees are stoked about them.

    It will be interesting to see how Kona offering this bike affects availability in the wild. If my local Kona dealer gets one in I'll take it for a test ride and chat with the employees about to see what their opinion is.

    If people are keen on fatbikes already there are lots of ways to satisfy that itch without Kona. Since the price and spec are nothing special what Kona can do is introduce fatties to a new crowd. If their dealers order them and if their store employees get stoked to sell them.

    I think to make that happen Kona will need to get their reps out in the field with some product and some stoke to generate awareness/interest in the LBS that are not fatbike friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugeye View Post
    Love Kona as a company...but for $50 more you get a Muk 3 with BB7's, Rolling Darryls, Formula hubs and Nates.
    If this spec sheet is accurate they've dropped the ball. I have two konas and love them, but in this case my muk3 is a killer deal compared to this. In no way would I consider this one, even if I haaaad to have a fatbike now and this one was on the floor I would pass it up. Sorry kona...

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    This thing should be $999.

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