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    Has anyone weighed the production run tires?
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    Already gone from eBay. "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."
    Maybe they jumped the gun. They were only $70!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Close to being available? Kenda Tire K1151 26X4.00 Juggernaut Pro Folding Tire Black
    Same shop has them listed on eBay, shipping in 2 business days.
    Weights are way different than fat-bike.com review (hint: higher).
    The "Pros" were my "plan A" to lower the rotational weight of my wheels. Those published Juggernaut weights on the WheelAndSprocket site kinda blow that out of the water! I just think that I need some lighter tires for the beach here. An 800 gram 4" fat tire could easily pry money from my grip, but it now appears that it was just a fairy tale. I thought that rumored weight sounded too good to be true.

    Actually, I am satisfied (in my blissful ignorance;-) with the performance of my 27 tpi Larrys and standard Surly tubes, except that I read complaints about this setup being heavy and cumbersome (1640 grams/tire plus 390 grams/tube). As far as fat tires go, they are all that I know! They are tough, and I have yet to experience a flat.

    Now I'm going to plan B: 1110 gram 60 tpi folding bead tires (Halo Nanuks, available now for $61) and the Surly lite tubes (80 grams lighter than the standard ones) should knock 610 grams of dead rotational rubber from each wheel. Thats about 1.36 lbs. I should notice the difference.

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    I run Q-tubes 26 x 2.4-2.75" tubes on my fat bike and really like them. They are fairly cheap and easy to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welnic View Post
    I run Q-tubes 26 x 2.4-2.75" tubes on my fat bike and really like them. They are fairly cheap and easy to find.
    I have read of this. I have questions about it, though. Do they deform much around the valve stem when inflated inside a 4" fat tire? Do they take patches without deforming the tube badly when inflated? I would like to keep my tires as round rolling as possible.
    A standard sized fat tube shouldn't have those issues. Since I haven't yet gotten a flat, i don't even carry a spare Surly tube (14+ ounces!) around with me any more. Those thangs are really heavy and cumbersome for taking along on a day ride! Two (inside the tires) are enough, already! Just a patch kit should be all I need.

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    I haven't seen anything noticeable at the valve stem, I'm running Husker Du/Knards on Marge Lites, and I haven't run lower than 7psi. I had my front tire go flat on pavement on the way to a trail and I didn't notice it getting out of round, though it would have to be pretty bad since I was trying to figure out why the self steer was so horrible. I put a patch on the tube and it has been working fine. You should try them. Even if you don't like them they are way better to carry as a spare.

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    Thanks Welnic. Sounds like they are a lighter and less bulky spare to haul around. I should give the Q-tubes a try. I've also heard that the Specialized tubes in the same 2.4" - 2.75" size are worth a try. I ride mainly on the beach, and thorns aren't a problem on the trails I ride. I might stay lucky and continue to avoid flats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlutonicPlague View Post
    I have read of this. I have questions about it, though. Do they deform much around the valve stem when inflated inside a 4" fat tire? Do they take patches without deforming the tube badly when inflated? I would like to keep my tires as round rolling as possible.
    A standard sized fat tube shouldn't have those issues. Since I haven't yet gotten a flat, i don't even carry a spare Surly tube (14+ ounces!) around with me any more. Those thangs are really heavy and cumbersome for taking along on a day ride! Two (inside the tires) are enough, already! Just a patch kit should be all I need.
    I went through dozens of these tubes before I went tubeless. Yes, they're light. No, they don't tend to deform. But they're thin to begin with and prone to mysterious slow leaks. My area is not particularly thorny. I'd say at least 80% of the time, I could not identify what caused my flats.

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    ^^Thanks, SmooveP. Thin tubes always seem to slowly exhale, even overnight. My relatively heavy Surly tubes seem to not leak much, if at all. I've had 5 lbs in my front and 6.25 lbs in the rear (at 72 F in the house...but riding the beach in low 40's to 50 F) for the last half-dozen or so beach rides, and my gage says they haven't lost any air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlutonicPlague View Post
    Thanks Welnic. Sounds like they are a lighter and less bulky spare to haul around. I should give the Q-tubes a try. I've also heard that the Specialized tubes in the same 2.4" - 2.75" size are worth a try. I ride mainly on the beach, and thorns aren't a problem on the trails I ride. I might stay lucky and continue to avoid flats!
    I'm using the Specialized Tubes and they dropped a solid half pound per wheel vs. the stock 4" tube. I didn't go with an SL because I'm already stretching these out quite a bit. I was in fear that a SL stretched to fit my 4.6" tires would be as thick as a balloon... :P
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    My experience is that the light tubes (2.7 inch) don't take patches very well. I would never again rely on a patch kit for the light tubes. I carry a spare tube.

    I have been using the light tubes for 4 years and have only got one flat which was a pinch flat from running too low pressure in a rocky summer trail.

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    These Kenda Juggernauts had my interest because they sounded really light, and looked like a good tread for the beach and loamy trails. Time will tell if this rumored, sub-800 gram, 4" fat tire is for real. Kenda said the Pro will be available "late Spring," which might not be until summer! And now their rumored lightness is in question.
    I think I'm going to spring for the ~1110 gram Halos, available now.

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    Schwalbe Jumbo Jims are supposed to be pretty light and coming out soon. There's a pair of the 4.8" ones on eBay right now. Only slightly used for the bargain price of $380.

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    I'm looking for a lighter alternative for riding the beach here. I don't ride my Pugs in the snow or on rocky terrain. 90% of my riding is on the beach, and the rest on loamy trails, so I am looking at tread designs that work for my riding.
    We only get about one or two days of snow most Winters here on the WA coast, where I live. As of yet this Winter, we've had none here that didn't melt right away. My local trails are partially submerged, deeply in some spots, and mostly unrideable. Winter is the best season for riding the beach here, anyway.

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    I should probably curb myself and wait until after I read the upcoming Fat-bike.com review on these Juggernauts... (twitch..twitch...twitch;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    I went through dozens of these tubes before I went tubeless. Yes, they're light. No, they don't tend to deform. But they're thin to begin with and prone to mysterious slow leaks. My area is not particularly thorny. I'd say at least 80% of the time, I could not identify what caused my flats.
    I had a slow leak in the rear and my bike was at the LBS getting something else done and they threw some sealant in there and it has been fine since then. I'd rather run thin tubes and sealant than heavy tubes. I have a couple of bikes set up tubeless with easy tires and rims, when something comes along that isn't a hassle in the fat bike world I'll think about doing that. Slow leaks don't bother me much with the fat bike since I change pressures depending on whether I'm riding sand, dirt, rocks, or pavement on the way to something else.

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    Kenda Juggernaut 26x4.0

    Quote Originally Posted by PlutonicPlague View Post
    These Kenda Juggernauts had my interest because they sounded really light, and looked like a good tread for the beach and loamy trails. Time will tell if this rumored, sub-800 gram, 4" fat tire is for real. Kenda said the Pro will be available "late Spring," which might not be until summer! And now their rumored lightness is in question.
    I think I'm going to spring for the ~1110 gram Halos, available now.
    Two things: late spring in mtb world means summer. In fat bike world it means next winter, but out of stock until next summer.
    Also, if you do get those halos I world love a ride report. They have a small thread on here but I haven't found a review yet. These are looking to check all the boxes for me right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welnic View Post
    I had a slow leak in the rear and my bike was at the LBS getting something else done and they threw some sealant in there and it has been fine since then. I'd rather run thin tubes and sealant than heavy tubes. I have a couple of bikes set up tubeless with easy tires and rims, when something comes along that isn't a hassle in the fat bike world I'll think about doing that. Slow leaks don't bother me much with the fat bike since I change pressures depending on whether I'm riding sand, dirt, rocks, or pavement on the way to something else.
    Yeah, I felt the same way about tubeless. In fact, I had never done tubeless on any of my bikes until now. The final straw was going out to the shed to grab my fat bike for a ride and finding both tires flat. Before that I was getting just enough flats for it to be annoying, definitely more than on my skinny-tired mountain bikes. I'm not ready to call it a smashing success yet, but so far so good.

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    So..... Guess these tires are available ?
    Just saw this pic anyone have anymore info.
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    I had a pair in my hand a couple days ago. Claimed weight In the 1300s seems accurate. Lugs are tiny. Weighed considerably less than the Bontrager tire. I was at the LBS so I couldn't get an accurate weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berzerko View Post
    So..... Guess these tires are available ?
    Just saw this pic anyone have anymore info.
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    That one is the 60 tpi sport model and are readily available for less than $50. Advertised weight is 1285g.

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    Bike Bling has them on their site as available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowride454 View Post
    I had a pair in my hand a couple days ago. Claimed weight In the 1300s seems accurate. Lugs are tiny. Weighed considerably less than the Bontrager tire. I was at the LBS so I couldn't get an accurate weight.
    Bontrager Hodag tires are only ~1200g. Actual weight for mine was 1239g. They advertise 1244g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swerny View Post
    Bike Bling has them on their site as available.

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    That is the regular 1285g tire.
    Forgot that 1-800bikepro was still around, brought back some memory's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Doom View Post
    That is the regular 1285g tire.
    Forgot that 1-800bikepro was still around, brought back some memory's.
    I know...like i said, it's the Jug Sport Wire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swerny View Post
    I know...like i said, it's the Jug Sport Wire.
    Gotcha, staring right at me. Jug sport wire sounds like a good name for a bra...

    I think I may go for the Halo Nanuk deal from Universal as my colored Floaters are HEAVY and think the Jug Pro's will probably cost a pretty penny.
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    Any word on availability of the 4.5 Pro version yet? Looking to run this as a front tire...

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    I call baloney. Their online catalog shows the 26x4 pro weighing 1285, those were some prototype tire that got weighed. http://issuu.com/kendausa/docs/2015_...94173/10616093

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    They are beefed up somewhat compared to the 750g tire that I weighed at the Taichung show. They added rubber to the thread and new claimed weight is 875 +/- 50g.
    Just weighed the six production tires that we got, and they were all in the 914-925g range.

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    Is that weight for the 4.0 or 4.5? Whats bead to bead on the production run you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    They are beefed up somewhat compared to the 750g tire that I weighed at the Taichung show. They added rubber to the thread and new claimed weight is 875 +/- 50g.
    Just weighed the six production tires that we got, and they were all in the 914-925g range.
    Espen, can you measure the knob height? Did you receive any 4.5's? I'd be interested in any comparisons against the Jumbo Jim in either 4.0 or 4.8...

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldskipper View Post
    Is that weight for the 4.0 or 4.5? Whats bead to bead on the production run you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slabber View Post
    Espen, can you measure the knob height? Did you receive any 4.5's? I'd be interested in any comparisons against the Jumbo Jim in either 4.0 or 4.8...

    thanks
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    No 4.5s as they are of no interest until they apply the technology used in the 4.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~ View Post
    Check back at the end of the month and we'll have Jesse's Juggernaut Report and more.

    Gomez...It has been 2 months since you said check back at the end of the month (assuming you meant January) and I do not believe we have seen anything additional from you guys on this tire. Is No News Bad or Good? I like many am very skeptical that a tire can be this light and be used for anything other than day of the race applications. Please give us something...Thanks!
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    ^^MLR, the answer can be found in the comments on the first review of these tires at Fat-Bike.com. On drop-down menu, click "components," then "tires," and scroll down for the review. Gomez answers your question in the last comment.
    I'm not in the market for the 4"ers, myself. I am only interested in the 4.5" version, and then only if it will have a good profile on my Marge Lites.

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    I knew it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    No 4.5s as they are of no interest until they apply the technology used in the 4.0
    See my (positive) comments, vidoes, etc about the Jumbo Jims in the Jumbo Jim thread.
    Yes, I've been following your comments in the JJ thread... appreciate all the detail you've provided there. What I'm hoping to get is any comparison data from someone who has ridden both... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlutonicPlague View Post
    ^^MLR, the answer can be found in the comments on the first review of these tires at Fat-Bike.com. On drop-down menu, click "components," then "tires," and scroll down for the review. Gomez answers your question in the last comment.
    I'm not in the market for the 4"ers, myself. I am only interested in the 4.5" version, and then only if it will have a good profile on my Marge Lites.

    Thanks for pointing that out...not much detail, but exactly what I expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    They are beefed up somewhat compared to the 750g tire that I weighed at the Taichung show. They added rubber to the thread and new claimed weight is 875 +/- 50g.
    Just weighed the six production tires that we got, and they were all in the 914-925g range.
    Cant find these for sale anywhere, any of yours for sale by chance?

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    if you guys are interested - i found these 2 photos of the sport 4.0 and the sport 4.5 from bikescale.com. according to the photos - the weights are 1240g and 1580g respectively.

    i am interested by the way on the weight of the 120tpi pro version.

    Kenda Juggernaut 26x4.0 (and 4.5)-juggernaut-sport-4.jpgKenda Juggernaut 26x4.0 (and 4.5)-49pex6_img_0492.jpg

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    So is the 1240 grams for the 120tpi folding tire? Or is that the 60 tpi wire bead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidwiz View Post
    Cant find these for sale anywhere, any of yours for sale by chance?
    I have searched online with no luck. Waiting for a dirt review before I drop any coin on a new product.

    900 grams is still quite lite for the pro. I am not sure the lack of knobs will be worth the weight savings and extra cost over a Panaracer Fat be nimble.
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    i've been considering the kenda juggernaut pro 4" 120 tpi as well as the maxxis mammoth 4" 120tpi as a lightweight tire upgrade to the stock vee rubber snowshoe 4.7" 72tpi that came with my sturgis wheelset. i figure that the snowshoe weighs around 1600g!

    also considering a 45NRTH 4" Husker Du but from my reading - it turns out that the actual width of these tire is only 3.8" whereas the juggernaut and mammoth 4" is a true 4" tire.

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    If anyone is looking for the 4.5" Sport (Wire bead) AEbike has them in stock here for the best prices I've seen:
    Kenda Juggernaut Tire 26 x 4.5" Steel Bead Black - AEBike.com

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    I have (2) 4.5" Sport (Wire bead) that I ran for 10 miles in the snow that I don't need any more, send me a PM if interested.

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    I have two wire 4.0's that weigh 1310g and 1345g. Sidewalls pretty thick. Measured at 98mm on 80mm rims


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