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    I would love a pair.


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    Just ordered a pair from Angry Cat Fish.


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    My 4.0s are coming in the mail today going to mount them up to my clownshoes when they get here..I posted a thread earlier basically asking the same thing ..I'll post some pictures when I get them all set up.

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    That's a wide rim for a 4.0 tire


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    Yea I guess there a bit wider than 4.0 I got a steal on them so I couldn't pass up on them if they don't work out I'll sell them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faction6 View Post
    Yea I guess there a bit wider than 4.0 I got a steal on them so I couldn't pass up on them if they don't work out I'll sell them
    I've got a pair of 4.6's that are too big for my frame, so if you want to swap them, let me now. The 4.0's will be perfect for my 90mm Nexties, but the big ones are REALLY big. I had a Bulldozer in the back, and the JJ is much taller and wider. No problem up front, only in the back of my 170 Fatback.

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    Are they evo ls pacestar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faction6 View Post
    My 4.0s are coming in the mail today going to mount them up to my clownshoes when they get here..I posted a thread earlier basically asking the same thing ..I'll post some pictures when I get them all set up.
    Might I enquire as to where you purchased the elusive Jumbo Jim 4.0. My need is great for this veritable unicorn of a tyre. I have searched high and low. Across hill and Vale. O'er moor and dale for many leagues without success. Alas I fear my dark skinned eastern princess shall be without shoe for these long cold winter days that draw ever nearer.




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    Forum off facebook I know how hard they are to get and I couldn't pass up on how good of a deal it was to purchase a set of them I mounted them up last night just to see how they would look not sure if I am actually going to use them or not...I'm waiting to hear back from someone on here who might want to do a trade for some 4.8 jumbo Jim's...are you interested in them if it falls through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faction6 View Post
    Forum off facebook I know how hard they are to get and I couldn't pass up on how good of a deal it was to purchase a set of them I mounted them up last night just to see how they would look not sure if I am actually going to use them or not...I'm waiting to hear back from someone on here who might want to do a trade for some 4.8 jumbo Jim's...are you interested in them if it falls through?
    Sure am.

    But. . . . . . . . .


    I live in the UK so shipping (which I'll pay of course ) is going to be horrific


    Thanks for the offer.

    Lets see how things pan out


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    Quick photo of it mounted to a clown shoe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Biker View Post
    Sure am.

    But. . . . . . . . .


    I live in the UK so shipping (which I'll pay of course ) is going to be horrific


    Thanks for the offer.

    Lets see how things pan out


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    Quote Originally Posted by Faction6 View Post
    Quick photo of it mounted to a clown shoe
    It don't look too bad that do it ?
    Although you might need to take care on rocky trails.


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    That's my only concern...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faction6 View Post
    That's my only concern...
    LOL stop posting pictures already wil ya ?
    Ya big tease


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    Good job!

    Hahah can't help it!!!!!

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    A quick update for people from Europe/UK looking for the JJ 4.0 liteskin .

    Monfat.fr has them in stock (18 at time of posting 23:20 GMT 11/10/2015)

    Jumbo Jim 4.0 Liteskin /


    Thought some of you might find this useful



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    Can you measure the width at the widest point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by urmb View Post
    Can you measure the width at the widest point?
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    As soon as they arrive I'll get the pics , weights and measurements


    FYI

    Est delivery date is 20/10/2015 but it could be as late as 28/10/2015.



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    Quote Originally Posted by urmb View Post
    Can you measure the width at the widest point?
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    On what size rim?

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    4.0s on 65 mm Nextie = 98 mm on the outside off the side lugs, the casing is right around 95 mm.



    My 3.8 Knard on 80 mm rim sitting next to it is the same width at the lug with a casing around 97 mm.

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    Anybody know where the 4.8s are in stock in the USA?
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    Yes I agree with you Marty. Much less self steer at lower PSI. Increase in descending confidence when I can control the bike. )
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    I just got my 4.0s put on my surly rims. My bike shopsswapped out my Nate and Knard for these. When I went to pick up my bike, One of the employees kind of went off... He kept insisting that fat tires were never meant to be setup as tubeless... He backed it with nothing except his opinion. It was kind of annoying. Anyway, I'll be riding tomorrow morning and can't wait to see how they perform.


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    Oh here's a pic Jumbo Jim-imageuploadedbytapatalk1444785212.756034.jpg


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    The ride was super plush! I was surprised. The braking was way better than with my Nate and Knards. The rear traction wasn't as good, but maybe I need to play with the tire pressure a bit.
    Overall I love. Easier to ride too!


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    More pics... Jumbo Jim Evo 4.0

    Theses LiteSkins came stock on 2016 Norco Bigfoot 6.2 Hoping rain holds off today to give the bike a second run. Grips nice on sloped trails.

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    Just ordered a set with Monfat.fr They had a couple of them in stock. Will arrive next week. My Knards have hardly any knobs after almost two years of riding. Anxious to experience these ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarverS View Post
    Just ordered a set with Monfat.fr They had a couple of them in stock. Will arrive next week. My Knards have hardly any knobs after almost two years of riding. Anxious to experience these ones.
    They are sweet, but wear very quickly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpfurn View Post
    They are sweet, but wear very quickly!
    I have about 600 miles of mixed pavement, dirt and gravel roads and they are wearing very, very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scot_douglas View Post
    I have about 600 miles of mixed pavement, dirt and gravel roads and they are wearing very, very well.
    Mine wore well alright....lol! My LS's wore a lot faster then the other tires I've tried. Now my wife's snake skins still look brand new, they have a completely different feel to them. She's also a lot lighter then me and doesn't ride very much to be fair.

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    I have a pair of never-mounted 4.0 snakeskins I'm looking to sell - just put them on eBay.

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    You did pretty well with that auction! I bid $250 & got crushed

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    $337.... Holy crap. I'd think of ripping both my sets off and selling them for that kind of dough!!

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    Boy did I sell my set too cheap.

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    Wow!! I only paid $227 for mine. Anyway, I did some riding today after we had about 4 days of rain. The mud was fun.. It was awesome. The jumbo Jim tires handle super well
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    I'm running the JJ's 4.0 Liteskins tubeless on BR2250 wheels.
    Love how nimble and quick they feel for fat tires.
    Traction is pretty good, but I find mud to be the real enemy of the JJ's.
    On the really sticky mud (like clay, not sand) it's even scary.
    On all other surfaces it's pure joy!!
    Oh yeah, they also seem to wear very quick when you do some pavement now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4-inch-or-more View Post
    I'm running the JJ's 4.0 Liteskins tubeless on BR2250 wheels.
    Love how nimble and quick they feel for fat tires.
    Traction is pretty good, but I find mud to be the real enemy of the JJ's.
    On the really sticky mud (like clay, not sand) it's even scary.
    On all other surfaces it's pure joy!!
    Oh yeah, they also seem to wear very quick when you do some pavement now and then.
    On clay sand combo ride for me. They were great! Sticky mud wasn't great!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    shoulda been around in the endo years. Endo on clay = pucker
    Endo in a corner = pucker! They do work well in sand though. I still have a set for beach riding.
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    LBS got a new Blackborrow in and it has 4.8" JJ on CS. Very impressive tire, and I am curious as to why no Bud/Lou?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    LBS got a new Blackborrow in and it has 4.8" JJ on CS. Very impressive tire, and I am curious as to why no Bud/Lou?
    here's a thought: Spec another manufacturers tire at OEM pricing and sell more Bud/Lou at MSRP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    here's a thought: Spec another manufacturers tire at OEM pricing and sell more Bud/Lou at MSRP?
    AhAhAh! this^!

    How about saving 576 g of rolling weight, with less rolling resistance, ease for tubeless setting and pretty decent grip/cornering performance? That's what I experience myself going from Lou/Lou to JJ 4.8 on my Blackborow

    I'm about to put my Lous back for winter riding though… I will now see how harder it is (or not) to set them tubeless vs JJ
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    Still no JJs widely available? I scored some 4" snakeskins off eBay for summer abuse, but I'd really like some 4.8" liteskins for the snow. Anybody know of a source?

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    the Schwalbe rep said January. They had no idea how popular the tire would be for OEM's trying to make their bikes look lighter on the spec sheets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gi02sl View Post
    Still no JJs widely available? I scored some 4" snakeskins off eBay for summer abuse, but I'd really like some 4.8" liteskins for the snow. Anybody know of a source?
    Not sure the JJ's would be a very good snow tire even in 4.8". My 4.0's are fantastic on anything dry, but really slide around a lot on the loose stuff. With the tiny wide spaced knobs I think you'd be giving up a lot of grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    Not sure the JJ's would be a very good snow tire even in 4.8". My 4.0's are fantastic on anything dry, but really slide around a lot on the loose stuff. With the tiny wide spaced knobs I think you'd be giving up a lot of grip.

    This review found similar results: First Ride: Schwalbe?s Superlight Jumbo Jim 4.8? Wide Fat Bike Tires
    Low pressure is the key on the JJs. Need to get them big 7mm side knobs down there to do their stuff. Flotation is of course 1st rate on the 4.8 version.
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    This tire sucks on everything except hard packed dirt and snow. But I still like it! Hahaha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anortherncrazy View Post
    This tire sucks on everything except hard packed dirt and snow. But I still like it! Hahaha.


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    I agree! I took my wife's Farley w/ JJ's out today and climbed a bunch of hills that my buddy couldn't clear on his Yampa w/Nates.... Really surprised me. And on top of that they spin up so fast! I think it was one of those magical snow types you only see a couple times a year here that packs perfectly and let's you wheelie up hills in 4+ inches of snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    the Schwalbe rep said January. They had no idea how popular the tire would be for OEM's trying to make their bikes look lighter on the spec sheets...
    Only 17 months later. Nice job??
    BS! Anybody fatbiking for at least that long could have predicted this.
    Believable yet amusing at the same time, because traditionally "we can't tell you how much our bikes weigh because variations in blah blah blah... we encourage to visit your LBS..."

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    Anybody choosing to run the 4.8" JJ as a winter/snow tire.

    My fatbike came speced with with 4.8" JJ on Mulefut 80mm wheels. My current dilemma is to set up the JJ tubeless, or buy a different tire for the winter then set those up tubeless, saving the JJ for summer.

    Riding will be in West Michigan, tires to be ridden for commuting on city streets, and trail riding. Trails will be mostly groomed trails with some off the beaten path shenanigans now and again. I just am not looking forward to speeding a couple hundred more dollars for a winter tire, especially if the JJ will handle it decently well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Ish View Post

    Omfg 320 for a used set, barely over 200 new. Plus 15 for shipping I made the mistake of clicking the add. Just wrong on so many levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
    Omfg 320 for a used set, barely over 200 new. Plus 15 for shipping I made the mistake of clicking the add. Just wrong on so many levels.
    Thanks Man - I just listed them for what I was seeing them on ebay. Looks like schwalbe has them listed at $140 each but out of stock. These are brand new. Anyways, I updated the price to $290. Just let me know if your interested and I'm sure we can figure out a fair price and fair shipping cost. Thanks for looking!

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    just an FYI.. I contacted Schwalbe a couple weeks ago to ask about availability. They said they'll be hitting the shelves in North America next April. Fingers crossed, we'll be seeing them for the MSRP (or cheaper) about the time the snow starts to melt.
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    Any reports of how these work in the snow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coyotegulch View Post
    Any reports of how these work in the snow?
    What kind of snow? They have been fine on what passed for snow in Anchorage for the past few weeks. We had a 3 to 5 inches over ice. It has been well packed and worked. Of course it's all gone now as the last few days have been in the 40s and blowing like stink.
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    Just a heads up, I talked with Schwalbe USA a few days ago and they told me that Jumbo Jims would be in stock some time this week. My 4.8 Liteskins were worn out, so I just checked the site and was able to order a pair. They have both Liteskin and Snakeskin in 4.0 size and Liteskin in 4.8 size. I have had 4.8 Liteskins on my bike since March of this year and have loved them. Granted, I do not have snow and only ride them in dirt, sand, and street. Been running them tubeless the entire time on Mulefuts with no flats, punctures, tears, or failure of any kind. Add air once a month or so and added a little extra sealant after the tires were deflated for air travel.

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    I am in the front range of CO, so something that might work in 5-6 inches of powder, but also handle breaking through some crud from the thaw freeze cycle.

    I have Vanhelgas this year and have liked them so far but was looking for something fatter to try. Was considering a bud and Lou, but a buddy mention the JJs.

    I use HuDUs in the summer.

    Thanks for the input.

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    I'm a fan of the 4.0 in dry summer conditions, less so in damp. I put a 4.8 on the front for winter. It's fine in loose snow and general handling, but on hard pack and corners I found traction lacking. I moved the 4.8 to the back and put a Dillinger 5 on the front. Really like this combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    here's a thought: Spec another manufacturers tire at OEM pricing and sell more Bud/Lou at MSRP?
    Are Bud/Lou more in demand right now than JJ?

    Because unless they are, I don't see how that makes any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamis View Post
    Just a heads up,....I just checked the site and was able to order a pair. They have both Liteskin and Snakeskin in 4.0 size and Liteskin in 4.8 size.
    Sweetness, only 16 months!

    Too bad I ordered the tires I needed 5 months ago. Maybe when these wear out. :ugh:

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    FYI: Jumbo Jims are now available outside of the schwalbe site. Aebike was the cheapest I could find for Snake Skin 4.0's- $93.99 a tire shipped. 28 left.

    Still no 4.8 Snake Skins though
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    It's been so long I don't know if I want a set of these tires anymore.
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    4.0 and 4.8 Liteskins in stock and available though (AEBike) at $84.99 and $95.99... should be fine for winter riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    It's been so long I don't know if I want a set of these tires anymore.
    If you ride fat in the summer, you'll definitely want them....
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    I'm flip flopping for summer tires now, to get JJ or just keep running Dillingers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wetpaint View Post
    I'm flip flopping for summer tires now, to get JJ or just keep running Dillingers?
    JJ is the way for Summer tires. I live in California in Santa Cruz mountains where we have no snow and rarely any extended winter weather. I have been running these tires (4.8 Liteskins) for almost a year with no failures. Have my replacement pair waiting to go on when I get around to it. I don't these tires are going to be worth a shit in snow conditions unless it's powdery soft where it doesn't matter.

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    My wife's bike is coming with JJ's spec'd as standard.....can anyone provide feedback on the 4.8s in the snow?

    We will be riding packed/groomed for fat bike trails with plenty of ups, downs and turns (ie. not powder covered lakes, etc.) and maybe some semi packed gravel/Class IV roads.

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    My bike came with JJ's they work great on groomed trails in MN. I have a minion FDR in back right now to see how works in powder/off trail conditions.

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    The 4.8's came on my new bike I just picked up. I was a l skeptical about how they will work in the snow. I live up high in Colorado, I ride only snow, from hardpack singletrack to crusty windblown/sun affected snow. I have 2 solid rides on them now in different conditions. My old bike has a Surly Bud up front and an On One Floater in the rear, so that is what I'm comparing them to.

    I am super pleased with how the rear performs. Grabs everything, holds a line, tracks well, and has more traction than I can push through, can't really get it to break free. It's a little loose in the corners, which is kinda fun once you get used to it. Thumbs up though, awesome rear tire.

    The front I was considering swapping out with the Bud that I have. Side by side comparison, the JJ is a half pound lighter than the Bud, it is also almost a quarter inch wider than the Bud as well. The Bud's tread is way more aggressive and taller, so I was a bit worried how the JJ would perform as far as cornering goes. It did just fine, never had a problem with it washing out. The only thing I noticed is when I got a bit sloppy and would hit the side soft pack of the trail, the side knobs on the Bud's handled the soft berm of the side of the trail, making it easier to stay a bit on track.

    Just my $0.02 for what it's worth. Very surprised and happy at how they are riding for me on everything from hard packed snow, to soft light powder. I'm gonna keep them...

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. Those are the results I was hoping for....as in no glaring issues with them. The last thing I want to do is hand my wonderful wife a death trap.......lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    FYI: Jumbo Jims are now available outside of the schwalbe site. Aebike was the cheapest I could find for Snake Skin 4.0's- $93.99 a tire shipped. 28 left.

    Still no 4.8 Snake Skins though
    20 left in AEBike. Those would be sold to only ten buyers, then months of waiting again.

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    Thanks for the update on getting them in the states. Had them on order from Bike24 for over a year. Just got my LBS to match AEBike.
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    4.8 liteskins are on eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gi02sl View Post
    4.8 liteskins are on eBay.
    Yes but for $141 per tire.

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    Scroll down. $93 (plus $15 shipping).
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    AEbike at $94 provides free shipping. And if you are a first time AE bike customer, you get a 5% discount above this.

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    Not showing $94.00. They are between $111.00 and $138.00 now

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    Bike24 emailed me this morning - they now have inventory and are starting to ship :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabber View Post
    Bike24 emailed me this morning - they now have inventory and are starting to ship :-)
    Thanks for the heads up! Just ordered a set of Snake Skin 4.8's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tankhead10 View Post
    Not showing $94.00. They are between $111.00 and $138.00 now
    Yeah looks like the prices just jumped at AEBike. Bike24 seems to have the better price now, even with shipping and the PayPal exchange rate.
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    For some reason every Schwalbe tire I've ordered from bike24 has come in severely overweight. So bad I was starting to think they where dumping the outa spec tires on me . The ones I get from my LBS have always been very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    For some reason every Schwalbe tire I've ordered from bike24 has come in severely overweight. So bad I was starting to think they where dumping the outa spec tires on me . The ones I get from my LBS have always been very close.
    Can you quantify severely overweight? I've got 16 tires coming, 15 x4.0 and 1 x4.8. I'll weigh all of them. Should beer interesting to see how much variance there is.

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    I ordered a pair of 4.0 snakeskins from this ebay seller. With shipping it works out to $88 each.

    New Schwalbe Jumbo Jim Tubeless Easy Snakeskin Tire 26x4 0 EVO Folding Pacestar | eBay
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    Quote Originally Posted by slabber View Post
    Can you quantify severely overweight? I've got 16 tires coming, 15 x4.0 and 1 x4.8. I'll weigh all of them. Should beer interesting to see how much variance there is.
    Mine where all 29er or 27.5's snakeskins and on the low end they where all at least 100g over the specified weight and a few where up over 150g. Be interesting to hear what yours come out at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    I ordered a pair of 4.0 snakeskins from this ebay seller. With shipping it works out to $88 each.

    New Schwalbe Jumbo Jim Tubeless Easy Snakeskin Tire 26x4 0 EVO Folding Pacestar | eBay
    Did the price change? The tires are listed at $90.91+16.45 shipping? Their lite skins are in the $88 range shipped per pair.
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    When I got mine you got 10% off if you bought more than 1 plus discounted shipping. He may have changed it.

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    Have read different experiences about the JJ's 4.0. I have ridden them three times now on an 0.6 bar pressure with my Trek Farley Saso suspension, bodyweight 87 kgs. Fast rolling tyre on firm sand and mud and pavement. The grip in hard packed mud with soft mud over it: you have to be concentrated to keep the bike where you want it to be. On soft damp sand: the tyre will keep the sand between the knobs and gets heavier accordingly. In climbs: I am satisfied withe tyre. I like the allround character of this light tyre. The tyre is cheap in Europe compared to other tyres. It's a keeper. Heard that they are allround good in snow too.

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    Mine will be used for summer riding, mostly on rocky trails. I chose the JJ for the snakeskin casing. The sidewalls of the H Billies I had on before got worn pretty badly.
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    Rode for the first time on new 4.8s. Got locally (tree fort bikes in SE mich). Was able to weigh in the store. Do try LBS if you can. I found weights vary 100 grams, but got set at 1185 grams. Replaced specialized gc 4.6 and saved ~250 grams on single tire. First impression: I think the traction is a little lower on JJs but predictable in corners (was on packed snow). Lower weight noticeable, and the tires ride faster with lower rolling resistance (casing more supple too). I've also ridden surly knard 3.8s (at exactly the same weight as JJs), and the JJs are a better tire for me. More protection for 90mm rims and keeps bottom bracket clearance sufficient. I really like these tires. Do weigh before you mount, however -- I saw lots of variability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meriwether74 View Post
    Rode for the first time on new 4.8s. Got locally (tree fort bikes in SE mich). Was able to weigh in the store. Do try LBS if you can. I found weights vary 100 grams, but got set at 1185 grams. Replaced specialized gc 4.6 and saved ~250 grams on single tire. First impression: I think the traction is a little lower on JJs but predictable in corners (was on packed snow). Lower weight noticeable, and the tires ride faster with lower rolling resistance (casing more supple too). I've also ridden surly knard 3.8s (at exactly the same weight as JJs), and the JJs are a better tire for me. More protection for 90mm rims and keeps bottom bracket clearance sufficient. I really like these tires. Do weigh before you mount, however -- I saw lots of variability.
    Any noticeable size difference between the 4.8 JJ and the 4.6 GC?
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    Virtually the same -- JJs casing wider by a few millimeters, but slightly narrower across knobs. Footprint has to be almost identical.

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    I got my JJ 4.0 Snakeskins in yesterday. Portly little bastards. 1180 gr each compared to the 990 gr for my liteskins. That being said they are definitely a more robust construction, hopefully 190gr is the difference between pushing and riding.
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    Mine were also 1180 g. Ill take the weight penalty for the extra protection. I plan to beat them pretty hard. I have Schwalbe Snakeskin tires on my rigid 29er and they take a ton of abuse.
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    Second ride on 4.8 JJs today on virtually perfect snow conditions -- packed ribbon of singletrack. Did familiar loop in 93 minutes, just 7 minutes slower than fastest time in the summer. May not be the highest traction fatbike tire out there, but balance between light weight, rolling resistance, and corning traction is awful good. Fatbikes make winter riding so much fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Mine were also 1180 g. Ill take the weight penalty for the extra protection. I plan to beat them pretty hard. I have Schwalbe Snakeskin tires on my rigid 29er and they take a ton of abuse.
    it wasn't that long ago that 1180 was incredibly light for a 4" tire... Now. we're almost b¡tching about them being too heavy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardnation View Post
    Any noticeable size difference between the 4.8 JJ and the 4.6 GC?
    Quote Originally Posted by Meriwether74 View Post
    Virtually the same -- JJs casing wider by a few millimeters, but slightly narrower across knobs. Footprint has to be almost identical.
    i got a close up view of the 4.8 JJ's this weekend, a friend rented a Kona Wo.

    Eyeball test, they looked slightly wider than my Snowshoe XL's (both on 80 MM wheels), and my brother in law's GC's (on 90 mm stock rims).

    Wider at least due to side knobs on the JJ's.

    Big weight savings too.
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    Grip Studs on JJs?

    Anyone ever try putting Grip Studs on JJs? I have a spare set and was thinking of putting some Grip studs on these things for the winter. Another option would just keep this set for the summer and continue using my Bud and Lous for the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paxfobiscum View Post
    Anyone ever try putting Grip Studs on JJs? I have a spare set and was thinking of putting some Grip studs on these things for the winter. Another option would just keep this set for the summer and continue using my Bud and Lous for the winter.
    if you already have B&L i would use those for winter and keep the JJ''s for summer use.

    The JJ's don't have as heavy a tread for winter use
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