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    Jones Bars and Fat Bikes

    I know there have been various posts about putting a Jones Bar on this or that model of fat bikes, but a search didn't turn up a specific thread dedicated to the topic, so here it is. Please post pics of your fattie set up with Jones (and/or similar designs), and your thoughts on if/how it has changed the handling of the bike, etc. Likes/dislikes? I'm thinking of putting one on my Blackborow...
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    I have Jones bars on all of my fatties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    I know there have been various posts about putting a Jones Bar on this or that model of fat bikes, but a search didn't turn up a specific thread dedicated to the topic, so here it is. Please post pics of your fattie set up with Jones (and/or similar designs), and your thoughts on if/how it has changed the handling of the bike, etc. Likes/dislikes? I'm thinking of putting one on my Blackborow...
    I opted to get the Metropolis bars with a 45 degree sweep. I haver them on 2 of my bikes and they're rock solid.

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    I had a set of his original ti H-bars on my old Pugsley but have since gone to Answer 20/20 carbon bars on my modern bikes. Warmer in winter and the sweep is just right for me. I should sell that Jones ti bar.
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    Jones bar works well on bikes with a longer TT (for me). My Blackborow would not be a good candidate for this.

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    I've never used one, so admitted ignorance here.... but I just don't get it. What is the supposed advantage to these bars? Looks to me like you'd be sitting straight up like a circus bear most of the time, with your hands way too close to your knees when you stood up.
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    Never ridden mine with anything but Jones bars - position was right-on from the off from twisty singletrack to more than 20 hours in the saddle. Keeps the hands and wrists in a nice, non-stressed position.

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    Thanks for all the info and pics, folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    Jones bar works well on bikes with a longer TT (for me). My Blackborow would not be a good candidate for this.
    Wondering about this too, and whether I would need to invest in a longer stem as well in order to get the ergos proper. I went by my LBS today, and they had one that I held up against my current bar (Salsa Salt Flat 2 - 11º). Looks like its at least worth giving it a try with the 70mm stem I have on there now.

    In the end, I'm thinking it could be a nice seasonal option for winter riding, commuting, etc. Might stick with the existing bar for summer singletrack.

    How many folks have found they needed to go to a longer stem when adapting from a flat bar to a Jones?
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    Jones Bars and Fat Bikes-img_2394.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by dovebiker View Post
    That is one sweet ride, sir.

    And Tripower - your collection is seriously impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    I've never used one, so admitted ignorance here.... but I just don't get it. What is the supposed advantage to these bars? Looks to me like you'd be sitting straight up like a circus bear most of the time, with your hands way too close to your knees when you stood up.
    Not too sure about the Jones Bars, the sweep does appear shrink the cockpit area.

    My Carver My-Ti bars sweep forward and then back so they won't change the hand position/cockpit length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dovebiker View Post


    Never ridden mine with anything but Jones bars - position was right-on from the off from twisty singletrack to more than 20 hours in the saddle. Keeps the hands and wrists in a nice, non-stressed position.
    Totally cool. The Jones Loop Bar also allow for the easy access bag and addition space for accessories like lights.

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    I got the Jones bars for versatility. It's hard to tell from the angle but the cup holder is inside the loop.

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    ^^Moto fenders? that's way cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    with your hands way too close to your knees when you stood up.
    This was my biggest complaint. I was running it on my singlespeed (Jones, actually) and when standing and climbing, I usually have my hands at the widest part of the bar for leverage. But it put my hands at an awkward spot. For sit-n-spin, they were great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    I've never used one, so admitted ignorance here.... but I just don't get it. What is the supposed advantage to these bars? Looks to me like you'd be sitting straight up like a circus bear most of the time, with your hands way too close to your knees when you stood up.
    For me an alternative bend bar gets my elbows closer in to my sides to a more comfortable position. (left shoulder issues) Also increased sweep puts wrists in more of a neutral/natural alignment with forearm. (right wrist/thumb issues)

    May need to adjust your bike fitting, as a whole, to utilize one.

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    I've got Mary's on my fat bike, and even with crappy grips my hands are much more comfortable than they were on typical risers. My hands used to go numb on long rides, and the sweep of the Mary's seems to have fixed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    ^^Moto fenders? that's way cool.
    Ya, can't beat the price. It was $40 for more than two full sets of fenders. I got extra in case I messed up or ever got another fatbike that needed fenders.

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    ^^^ Titec H-bar on my Pugs

    My Titec H-Bar review: https://thelazyrando.wordpress.com/2...-h-bar-update/

    My review of the Loop Bars: https://thelazyrando.wordpress.com/2...-h-bar-review/



    ^^^ Jones Loop Bar on the same Pugs

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    - great for touring and casual riding
    - didn't love them for techy MTBing compared to a standard rider bar
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    I'm not sure If I'd like one of these. I really want to test ride one,though. I'm looking for something with more sweep than my 17 degree Salsa Bend 2 bar....maybe the 23 degree Bend 2.
    I thought I caught a glimpse online of a new bar with a 40 degree sweep that Bontrager is coming out with, but I can't find the link now. It looked pretty sweet!

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    on one has a bar.
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    I have the Jones Loop bars on my Salsa Blackborow.

    Very comfortable and they allow a more upright riding position which I need to preserve my failing neck.
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    Singletkr - thanks for the pics. It's good to see one on a Blackborow, since that's the bike I would be putting it on. Did you (or anyone else) find that they needed to use a longer stem when going from a straight bar to the Jones?
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    I'm filling this thread closely. I don't have anything to add yet, but I'm thinking about putting them on my Cogburn and my wife's Boris. At $129 plus shipping each. I want to have all the info I can before springing for them.
    I have to say, all the pics are awesome and the Blackborrow with the Dillinger 5s is really awesome . !

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    They certainly do look cool! I'm hoping that someone with these H-bars shows up at the NW Fat Bike meet on the Long Beach Peninsula on the weekend of 9/19, and lets me try out how they actually feel when riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Singletkr - thanks for the pics. It's good to see one on a Blackborow, since that's the bike I would be putting it on. Did you (or anyone else) find that they needed to use a longer stem when going from a straight bar to the Jones?
    Stock stem.

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    2011 Muk, 2014 Pug, 2015 BB, all bars replaced with Jones bar for better wrist positioning. Last week did custom fit with LBS and replaced BB stock stem with 16 degree 138mm stem. Cockpit went from scrunched to perfect, especially nice for standing while climbing. Now I'm ready for my first century on lame-ass dirt roads.

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    here is a bar bag made to fit the Jones bar.

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    I have used a Wald #8095 which bears an uncanny resemblance to the Jones Bend H-Bar, angle of bars similar at around 45 degrees. I moved on to Pyramid North Road bars which have a 70 degree bend which I find better than 45. I run the Wald and the Pyramid upside down. The Wald and Pryamid are super bargains, are steel, and have a durable and attractive chrome finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert.jones View Post
    Last week did custom fit with LBS and replaced BB stock stem with 16 degree 138mm stem.
    Got any details / specifics / links on that stem?
    Out to ride

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    Loop bar on my, soon to be retired, Krampus for 2000 miles of Southwest touring. Always felt great. I'm tall and roadie conditioned, so I need somewhat of a saddle to bar drop to be feeling right, even on a bikepacking style bike. This puts more weight on my hands but the 45 degree Loop bars with Ergons always were perfect.

    Untitled by jan nikolajsen, on Flickr

    Recently switched, or some would say: retrograded to a Pugsley and are trying the non-Loop Loop bars on that bike. They are the newer, wider ones and I actually had to cut an inch or so off. Probably due to the shorter TT on the Pugs. I really like these bars too:

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    Nice, another yellow Pugs with what looks like a Revelate frame bag.

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    Combining a Jones Bar with Ergons seems downright decadent.

    This thread is convincing me that it will be my next bar, once I scrap the cabbage together...
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    Love mine. Especially great on longer rides. I utilize at least 4 different hand positions regularly. Worried at first about singletrack but have grown to enjoy it. Allows me to shift my weight around a bit more than a standard bar.

    No complaints at all.

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    Jones bars and ergons are amazing. I have a wrist bone spur and busted up shoulder. Totally the way to go.
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    Jones Bars and Fat Bikes-pug.jpg

    I have been riding my pug like this for 8 yrs now, mostly on Olympic Peninsula beaches.

    I just weighed the wheels, holy cow, 16.5# (endos plus large marges, probably the big hit ones). Is there any hope to get those meaningfully lighter? (ok a little google suggests I could save ~600g swapping marges for marge lites and another 600 swapping the endos for larrys? So take 3# off?)

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    I've recently put a longer stem on which had made it much more comfortable


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    Do u have a pic of your set up. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    I have been riding my pug like this for 8 yrs now, mostly on Olympic Peninsula beaches.

    I just weighed the wheels, holy cow, 16.5# (endos plus large marges, probably the big hit ones). Is there any hope to get those meaningfully lighter? (ok a little google suggests I could save ~600g swapping marges for marge lites and another 600 swapping the endos for larrys? So take 3# off?)
    I would leave those cool Large Marge rims on there. Swap to a lighter tire, like Jumbo Jim's. By the way, Endo's aren't 600g (or 300g/tire) lighter than a Larry. They're about the same weight, if I remember right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
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    I just weighed the wheels, holy cow, 16.5# (endos plus large marges, probably the big hit ones). Is there any hope to get those meaningfully lighter? (ok a little google suggests I could save ~600g swapping marges for marge lites and another 600 swapping the endos for larrys? So take 3# off?)
    I did the best I could to get my current Pugs wheels acceptably light. Marge Lite rims, DT 350 rear hub, Surly SS front hub, DT butted Comp spokes, aluminum nipples, split tube tubeless, 3.8 Knards, XT skewers.

    Weighed with an XT 10 speed cassette, 160 mm SLX rotors and a single speed 20t freewheel cog on the front wheel, they still weigh 14 lbs.

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    May I ask a question borne out of my.own ignorance. ??
    What is the big deal with getting everything as light as possible. ?????
    Does it make any real world difference. ?
    Seems to me that bombing around off road, strength would be the bike criteria to pursue.
    But, I must b missing something .

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    To each their own. Just helping another member with some advice.

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    No, like I say, I do not know. So I asked,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    May I ask a question borne out of my.own ignorance. ??
    What is the big deal with getting everything as light as possible. ?????
    Does it make any real world difference. ?
    Seems to me that bombing around off road, strength would be the bike criteria to pursue.
    But, I must b missing something .
    Next winter when you are pushing it up a steep icy snowmachine trail, then you will know. Seriously though strength is important but a bunch of extra strength is just not needed. The trick is finding the balance of strength to weight that works for you.
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    Jones Bars and Fat Bikes

    I've been told by multiple people that if I unloaded my bike or jumped on a different bike I would likely be a lot faster....... Than the majority of the riders with...But I kinda like being the guy who has what's needed....
    Training or not I'm sold on the bikes and the jones bars




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    Quote Originally Posted by jan_nikolajsen View Post
    I did the best I could to get my current Pugs wheels acceptably light. Marge Lite rims, DT 350 rear hub, Surly SS front hub, DT butted Comp spokes, aluminum nipples, split tube tubeless, 3.8 Knards, XT skewers.

    Weighed with an XT 10 speed cassette, 160 mm SLX rotors and a single speed 20t freewheel cog on the front wheel, they still weigh 14 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    I would leave those cool Large Marge rims on there. Swap to a lighter tire, like Jumbo Jim's. By the way, Endo's aren't 600g (or 300g/tire) lighter than a Larry. They're about the same weight, if I remember right.
    I looked at some website that referred to 'ultralite' larry as in the 1100g range and original endos in the 1600g range but I don't know what kind of data they based that on. In practice, I need some gear for my winter commuter and I'm not going to get anything for the pug this month I don't think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    May I ask a question borne out of my.own ignorance. ??
    What is the big deal with getting everything as light as possible. ?????
    Does it make any real world difference. ?
    Seems to me that bombing around off road, strength would be the bike criteria to pursue.
    But, I must b missing something .
    If you were racing or doing long endurance type events, it would pay off to go light. For 99% of those that do sub-50 milers, I wouldn't waste money, personally. Stock stuff, minus the cruddy Shimano hubs Surly uses, seem to be good enough. Shimano actually seems to be ok, but that locknut keeps coming loose on virtually every Shimano hub I've had.

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    On my Jones Plus, I love them. I have them set up with the cork Ergons.

    Didn't take to them as much on my Krampus or my Yampa. I experimented with various stem lengths to no avail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    If you were racing or doing long endurance type events, it would pay off to go light. For 99% of those that do sub-50 milers, I wouldn't waste money, personally. Stock stuff, minus the cruddy Shimano hubs Surly uses, seem to be good enough. Shimano actually seems to be ok, but that locknut keeps coming loose on virtually every Shimano hub I've had.

    OK. Thank You! As I don't compete or want to catch air , but do want to b able to pack a lot of weight on my bike and trailer I've wondered about this light weight stuff. I wish someone would make a 26×6" cargo bike.

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    Took the plunge today, and then took it out for a climb up my favorite local singletrack, and then a bomber run back down. Conceptually, I could immediately see the various advantages to the Jones Bar for winter riding, commuting, etc. But how it would feel for more technical summer riding was what I wasn't totally convinced of. Today's ride put all that to rest - it felt really comfortable while climbing and I didn't feel any loss of precision in steering or leverage while descending at the same speeds I used to descend this trail with a flat bar.

    In short, I was really suprised by how great these bars felt, and it really didn't take much to get used to them at all. They feel like a natural fit on my Blackborow, and I'm fully sold. The next test will be an overnighter this weekend, but it won't really be a test at all, because I can already tell that I'm going to love them for longer rides. If you're wondering, I'd highly recommend trying them.

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    Looks great!! Are they the 710 mm size. ?

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    Yep - 710mm. The flat bar I had on there before was 750mm.
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    Do any of the different models fit pogies? Specifically Cobrafist's?
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    I have bar mitts fire mine but most of the time it's not cold enough to use them......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tincup69 View Post
    Do any of the different models fit pogies? Specifically Cobrafist's?
    Not sure about the Cobrafists, but Bar Fly Bags makes a Jones-specific pogie.
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    Well, after reading through this thread, and finding a great deal on a set of the aluminum loop 710 bars, I made the switch. I already had the BioKork Ergons, which were awesome on my stock 760mm bars on the Wo. Thought I may have to switch back to the stock 70mm stem instead of my 45mm, which I love the handling change that made, but in the end, even with the 45mm stem, the Jones bars just work. More convenient is the fact that I can now mount my lights front and center, instead of off to the side of my phone/tool stem mount bag. Still playing with adjustments to the Ergons and shift/brake levers, which will only really shake out with some more riding, but on a quick pavement/gravel 3 miler, things felt pretty good so far.

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    Old thread. Anyone else dislike the Jones bars standing? They are great for a relatively upright seated position- angle of wrists matches bar perfectly- but stand up and now your hands ore far too close to thighs. Especially if standing to clear some techy stuff I find the balance off. I have tried various stem lengths and cannot find a reach that is happy both seated and standing with wrists neutral seated.

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    I stand all the time with them on my Plus SS and enjoy the position. I'm using the 710 Jones Bends with Ergons.

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    Thanks seabass, bout to pull the trigger on a PLUS frameset and it was a concern I had as well. Current bike is similar to prior post, good to know the PLUS is different. Wanting to go ss as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SVO View Post
    Old thread. Anyone else dislike the Jones bars standing? They are great for a relatively upright seated position- angle of wrists matches bar perfectly- but stand up and now your hands ore far too close to thighs. Especially if standing to clear some techy stuff I find the balance off. I have tried various stem lengths and cannot find a reach that is happy both seated and standing with wrists neutral seated.
    After having a set of H-bars on the Fargo and 710 Loops on the ECR.. I agree that standing and cranking can feel a little strange.

    Don't forget to try different bar tilt angles and stack heights (raise and lower) with the Jones loop. It can take a lot of trial and error to get it where you like it.

    I like the Loop 710 for what it is. It works very well on commuter / gravel type bikes for me. For real trail riding I prefer much wider bars.

    I would like to see a Jones Loop 760mm with between 30 to 40 degrees of sweep.
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    A lot of people run the front too high. I have mine tilted up slightly and climbing is fine.

    What Bubba said about trial and error.

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    i have jones bars on a few bikes. i tend to run the bar clamp at ~1cm below saddle top height more or less and then use an angle finder - place this along the grip section and angle this at 12 degrees. everyone seems to have an ideal, and once you do, its worth noting for future reference as i for one am very sensitive to the bar angle. HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBass_ View Post
    I stand all the time with them on my Plus SS and enjoy the position. I'm using the 710 Jones Bends with Ergons.
    So are you on the ergons when you stand? I use a flat 9 degree bar with ergons on one bike. That creates a forward hand position that makes it balanced. But they must really kind of stick out on the Jones bar, no? Hook branches? Got a pic of that setup?- thanks!

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    Jones Bars and Fat Bikes-img_0189.jpgJones Bars and Fat Bikes-hbar.jpg

    I had H Bars on my bike but in an effort to lighten it a little I switched over to the other Jones bars. The loops are on my beach bike now.
    Love the hand position.
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    I had H Bars on my bike but in an effort to lighten it a little I switched over to the other Jones bars. The loops are on my beach bike now.
    Love the hand position.
    Thanks. I was confused- thinking barends rather than grips alone. Dig the barends while standing.

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    Jones carbon on 2016 Mukluk, had 3 broken bones in hand and have a reoccurring ganglion cyst in my wrist. Jones allows me to get 50+ mile rides on the weekends.
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    I just ordered the Soma Clarence bars to give a try. They are a bit narrower at 660mm and a sweep of 40 degrees. Tree Fort has them for $42, so what the heck. I do not do serious jumps so I expect they should hold up. The bars are 40mm narrower than my Salsa Salt Flat 3 bars, so we shall see if that is much of an issue.

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    Glad I found this thread. I've just gotten back into riding (in the last 45 days). I notice after I've ridden for a while, my wrists start to bother me to the point that I have to rest the base of my palms up on top of the bar (only possible for sit & spin on tame surfaces).

    I'm really torn between the Origin8 Batwing (660mm) and the Jones loop (660mm or 710mm). Aside from the awesome price ($36) on the Batwing compared to the Jones aluminum loop ($110+grips), I am concerned about the full 45-deg on the Jones, vs. the softer 25-deg turnback on the Batwing.

    I'm entered into a 40K race, 30 days from today ...and I'm pretty sure my wrists are gonna play hell for that long of a ride. I think my Growler MBS has a 70mm stem on it, but I have a 100mm stem I took off the wife's bike I can use, if need be.

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    I had a broken right forearm years ago with a piss poor repair. Because my right wrist is funky, long rides with straight bars hurt me as well.
    I went to Jones bars on my rigid fat bike and they were 95% the cure. I added Wolftooth foam grips and that pretty much clinched it.
    I put Salsa Bend 2 bars on my FS bike. They work ok on that bike since it has suspension. On the rigid bike, the Jones are the way to go for me.
    I was running an 80mm stem with the straight bars and I'm running it with the Jones bars. Gotta see what works for you.
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    No broken arm bones for me, but definitely painful wrist fatigue...

    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I had a broken right forearm years ago with a piss poor repair. Because my right wrist is funky, long rides with straight bars hurt me as well.
    I went to Jones bars on my rigid fat bike and they were 95% the cure. I added Wolftooth foam grips and that pretty much clinched it.
    I put Salsa Bend 2 bars on my FS bike. They work ok on that bike since it has suspension. On the rigid bike, the Jones are the way to go for me.
    I was running an 80mm stem with the straight bars and I'm running it with the Jones bars. Gotta see what works for you.
    NYrr496,

    Thank you for the feedback. I think I'm pretty resolved at this point that I need some sort of "pull-back" bars. I think the Jone's H-bar loop would be a slamdunk for me, but it seems I keep adding weight to this bugger (different / heavier saddle too) and I'll be going from some pretty lightweight FSA carbon bars to the Origin8 batwing or Jones. It's only about 0.5-0.75# more, but notable.

    If I saw any bikepacking in my future, I'd definitely get the Jones. But when I head into the sticks, I take my pop-up camper with me and use it as a base for riding. No real need for me to overnight with the bike only. Anyway....I'll pull the trigger on something, I think I might start with the Origin8's and see what they do for me. If it's not enough, my boy or wife would probably like them on their bikes.

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