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    High POE 170mm rear hub cheaper than Industry 9?

    Do any of you know of any cheaper high POE 170mm rear hub options than the I9 or Paul Components (made by I9)? Their hubs are great but at $400 are just too spendy for this project.

    I'm building this wheel for fat bike trials, lots of ratcheting, so high POE is a must.

    Thanks!

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    DT Swiss Big Ride with the 54T "Upgrade". Approx $200 for a rear hub.

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    Hope or Bitex (BHS) are the only other options other than DT. They're all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    DT Swiss Big Ride with the 54T "Upgrade". Approx $200 for a rear hub.

    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    Hope or Bitex (BHS) are the only other options other than DT. They're all good.


    Thanks! Wasn't aware of the BHS!

    So thus far we have:
    DT Swiss with upgrade - 54 POE - ~$200
    BHS - 48 POE - ~$139
    Hope Fatsno - 44 POE - ~$200

    Is there anything any closer to the 108 POE of the I9? Or is this as good as it gets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightFattie View Post
    Thanks! Wasn't aware of the BHS!

    So thus far we have:
    DT Swiss with upgrade - 54 POE - ~$200
    BHS - 48 POE - ~$139
    Hope Fatsno - 44 POE - ~$200

    Is there anything any closer to the 108 POE of the I9? Or is this as good as it gets?
    If you want I9 engagement, you have to pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightFattie View Post
    Thanks! Wasn't aware of the BHS!

    So thus far we have:
    DT Swiss with upgrade - 54 POE - ~$200
    BHS - 48 POE - ~$139
    Hope Fatsno - 44 POE - ~$200

    Is there anything any closer to the 108 POE of the I9? Or is this as good as it gets?
    Better engagement. Bigger price.
    https://onyxrp.com/store/fat-bike-hu...170-12mm-thru/

    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    If you want I9 engagement, you have to pay for it.
    yup

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    I would not pay I9 prices for a ratchet hub, but I gladly pay that price for an Onyx; I have three sets

    The upgraded DT Swiss is not bad, I ride one on my plus bike, but it's nothing like my Onyx.

    Onyx hubs are the kind of hub that you reuse over and over for different wheel builds.

    $350 DT Swiss Big Ride with high POE conversion
    $400 I9
    $450 Onyx

    Once you go Onyx, all other hubs are less than satisfying.

    Be careful, Onyx hubs are addictive!! Maybe we should call it Onyx "crack"

    Fat bike trials? Dude, you must get Onyx, it will blow your mind, the engagement is so fast that it's nearly a muni.

    [QUOTE=Harold;13284653]Better engagement. Bigger price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nurse ben View Post

    once you go onyx, all other hubs are less weight.
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    And that weight matters how? Seriously, show me someone who couldn't lose a pound in the derrier/gut and I'll agree with you.

    There are so many ways to balance an additional 100gms, such as running a lighter tire, or using carbon bling, but when you take into account that the average fat bike weighs more than 30#, 100gms is child's play.

    My take on Onyz is the gain in efficiency overcomes the addition of 100gms, and that's not taking into account how nice they ride.

    Of course I also run a Mastodon fork, an extra pound over the Bluto for superior performance, but I could run a Lauf or rigid, but then what kind of fun is that?!

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    Nearly every trials rider who isn't using a freewheel is using a king or hope hub.

    King doesn't make fat bike hubs, so that rules them out.

    The older Pro2 trails hub was 48EP (I think it was 48, maybe 44). Never had an issue with it. Never had an issue with a king either at 72EP.

    The Pro2 trails was also using only 2 pawls at a time, and I didn't see that many broken. As far as I know the standard pro4 hub is now 44EP and all 4 pawls engage at the same time. The new pro4 trails is 88EP, probably 2 pawls at a time again.

    I know nothing of Onyx hubs, and I haven't heard of too many people using them for trials.

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    LOL someone mentioned weight in this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightFattie View Post
    Do any of you know of any cheaper high POE 170mm rear hub options than the I9 or Paul Components (made by I9)? Their hubs are great but at $400 are just too spendy for this project.

    I'm building this wheel for fat bike trials, lots of ratcheting, so high POE is a must.

    Thanks!

    The DT hub with 54t ratchets is the least expensive hub that's going to last for what you want to do with it. Figure closer to $280 or maybe a bit more for that setup, including shipping.

    Onyx is without a doubt the best overall hub for fast engagement and long term durability. Figure at least $400.

    And then there's everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    The DT hub with 54t ratchets is the least expensive hub that's going to last for what you want to do with it......Onyx is without a doubt the best overall hub for fast engagement and long term durability. Figure at least $400.....
    Hi Mr. mikesee,

    Does Onyx make a hub for the 150mm axle that is on the Lunchbox I purchased from you? As you know I currently have a DT Swiss 350 hub w/the 54t ratchets and I would love the higher POE of the Onyx. Thanks, in advance, for sharing your expertise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelsnead View Post
    Hi Mr. mikesee,

    Does Onyx make a hub for the 150mm axle that is on the Lunchbox I purchased from you? As you know I currently have a DT Swiss 350 hub w/the 54t ratchets and I would love the higher POE of the Onyx. Thanks, in advance, for sharing your expertise!

    Take care,

    Michael

    It's a very rare hub that Onyx doesn't make. They definitely have that one covered, although if I'm not mistaken your hub is 157, not 150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    DT Swiss Big Ride with the 54T "Upgrade". Approx $200 for a rear hub.
    Where?!? all i can find is the hub for $220 and the upgrade for $100 more usd.

    From the canadian suppliers is $380 for a 18t 350 big ride......
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    It's a very rare hub that Onyx doesn't make. They definitely have that one covered, although if I'm not mistaken your hub is 157, not 150.
    Hi Mr. mikesee,

    Thanks for the education!

    Take care,

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    Where?!? all i can find is the hub for $220 and the upgrade for $100 more usd.

    From the canadian suppliers is $380 for a 18t 350 big ride......
    UNiversal has the 350 hub for $215 and I've seen the ratchet upgrade for $90...I forgot about the extra cost when I posted!!! Sorry!

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