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    Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    I apologize for the delay in posting this and still don't have photos but I thought some may be interested in my experience with these amazing rims. I had Paul Whub front and Hope Pro Evo2 rear hubs drop shipped to Hed and they had it built with Sapim spokes and out the door the same day! I received the wheels in Western MA 3 days later; not bad. The wheels are crazy light. I set them up first with Dillingers following their directions of 1 layer of Gorilla tape to cover the spoke holes. The tires sealed and were seated without trouble but I kept having leakage out the spoke wholes. I took everything apart, cleaned the rims, re-applied tape, inserted tube and left inflated to 20psi overnight to really mash down the tape. Replaced tires and still had leakage from the spoke holes, but less, and after 12 hrs of re-inflating, they sealed up and never leaked again. In the future I might put a little rubber cement on the nipples to improve the seal. So my Aluminum Fatback (170mm) with O-Beast carbon fork, e13 cranks, XT drivetrain, and cheap aluminum bars/stem/post weighs 27 lbs. I didn't actually ride the bike with that set-up because my son wanted the Dillingers back on his bike(!) so I replaced them with my trusty Bud/Nate combo. Added 120 front and 80 rear grip studs and bike is now 28.5 lbs. Now the ride report: holy crap! I lost 4 lbs of rotational weight from my hundies and it's a whole different bike. I'm screaming up climbs that that used to feel like peddling through molasses, and I'm hopping onto rocks like I was on my carbon Tallboy. The steering also feels quicker/lighter. I could never run my previous wheels tubeless; now I have no fear of pinch-flatting and will consider making this my year-round bike. BTW, Paul at Hed was really helpful in getting the wheels sealed and even gave me his contact info over the weekend if I had any problems. Yes, the wheels were expensive (about $2000 total shipped) but when I see what people are paying for carbon frames to take 1lb of static weight off compared to aluminum, this was a bargain. So all we need now is a little snow!

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    Nice, thanks! Any one else willing and able to share their experience with these wheels?

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    I have had my HED's for over a month now. Built with Paul on the front and Industry Nine on the rear. There isn't a better or lighter hub than I-9! And while I am at it, I will say there isn't a better set of rims than the HED's. Used one strip of gorilla tape, and set them up tubeless with Husker Du's. Had no leakage at all. I have them on my Mukluk-Ti which I race with down in the southeast in Pisgah etc. all single track steep rocky and rooty. So, no snow, but the wheels handle like a dream. I have gotten the whole bike down to just over 22Lbs with those wheels. I can definitely feel an improved response when accelerating and more agility in turning.

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    Beargrease Carbon

    Quote Originally Posted by campykid View Post
    I apologize for the delay in posting this and still don't have photos but I thought some may be interested in my experience with these amazing rims. I had Paul Whub front and Hope Pro Evo2 rear hubs drop shipped to Hed and they had it built with Sapim spokes and out the door the same day! I received the wheels in Western MA 3 days later; not bad. The wheels are crazy light. I set them up first with Dillingers following their directions of 1 layer of Gorilla tape to cover the spoke holes. The tires sealed and were seated without trouble but I kept having leakage out the spoke wholes. I took everything apart, cleaned the rims, re-applied tape, inserted tube and left inflated to 20psi overnight to really mash down the tape. Replaced tires and still had leakage from the spoke holes, but less, and after 12 hrs of re-inflating, they sealed up and never leaked again. In the future I might put a little rubber cement on the nipples to improve the seal. So my Aluminum Fatback (170mm) with O-Beast carbon fork, e13 cranks, XT drivetrain, and cheap aluminum bars/stem/post weighs 27 lbs. I didn't actually ride the bike with that set-up because my son wanted the Dillingers back on his bike(!) so I replaced them with my trusty Bud/Nate combo. Added 120 front and 80 rear grip studs and bike is now 28.5 lbs. Now the ride report: holy crap! I lost 4 lbs of rotational weight from my hundies and it's a whole different bike. I'm screaming up climbs that that used to feel like peddling through molasses, and I'm hopping onto rocks like I was on my carbon Tallboy. The steering also feels quicker/lighter. I could never run my previous wheels tubeless; now I have no fear of pinch-flatting and will consider making this my year-round bike. BTW, Paul at Hed was really helpful in getting the wheels sealed and even gave me his contact info over the weekend if I had any problems. Yes, the wheels were expensive (about $2000 total shipped) but when I see what people are paying for carbon frames to take 1lb of static weight off compared to aluminum, this was a bargain. So all we need now is a little snow!
    I just built up the Beargrease Carbon with the Hed carbon rims and laced them to the new I9 Torch hubs. I should be in the saddle by next week. Can't wait. This New England snow is killing. Good to see all positive reviews. Cheers, Johnny

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    Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    I have about 5 rides on mine and I am impressed with the quality of the HED rims and the i9 hubs. The bike accelerates up hills like you have an engine strapped to it.

    I also agree spend the money shaving rotating weight as you will feel it the most


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    Beargrease Carbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    I have about 5 rides on mine and I am impressed with the quality of the HED rims and the i9 hubs. The bike accelerates up hills like you have an engine strapped to it.

    I also agree spend the money shaving rotating weight as you will feel it the most


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    Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    Everything here is snow covered. However ever chance I can I try to jump or toss the bike around.

    FYI - I am 165 + 20lbs of gear
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    Re: Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    I had mine built with a PD dynamo hub. Turnaround for my wheel was a full six weeks, including shipping from and to Alaska.

    I only got a front wheel, as I am a larger rider and need a clown shoe in the rear to minimize break-through on the soft stuff. I am happy with the rim and wheel build quality, although I did notice ice accumulating in the rim grooves on a multi-day excursion, but this shouldn't be an issue for most riders.

    Over-all, the wheel is well worth the money.

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    What was the price of the rim and build from HED? Did anyone purchase the complete wheel set from HED with the I9 hubs? If so, what was the price? Thanks.

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    A friend of mine at my LBS said he called HED and they told him it was $2200 for the complete set built with i9's and CX-Ray spokes. I was expecting more considering its a lot of carbon in the rim and those hubs and spokes aint cheap either.

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    I paid a total of $2000 for Paul/Hope pro evo2 hubs, Hed rims, Sapim spokes, wheelbuilding, and shipping.

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    Thanks.

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    I have heard a few people express a problem with the HED rim at low pressures. Anyone have any experience at less than 5 psi?

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    Been down to 3 psi; absolutely no problems. Had to take the tire off yesterday; it was sealed tight! After completely deflating it had to stand on the tire to break the seal. I have no concerns re: burping.

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    Well, this has put me over the edge. My Carbondales are paid for but I'm not wanting to be patient any longer. They seemed to be annoyed at Borealis that I am interested in regular updates concerning when the rims will be available. HED might not be any better at communicating but at least their rims are available so they don't have to talk with customers about how long they will need to wait.

    Monday can't come soon enough so I can get the ball rolling.

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    HED Carbon

    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    Well, this has put me over the edge. My Carbondales are paid for but I'm not wanting to be patient any longer. They seemed to be annoyed at Borealis that I am interested in regular updates concerning when the rims will be available. HED might not be any better at communicating but at least their rims are available so they don't have to talk with customers about how long they will need to wait.

    Monday can't come soon enough so I can get the ball rolling.
    I've gotten mine down to 4.5 psi with no seal problems. HED's carbon rims are amazing. Can't wait to ride them with no snow and take the Beargrease to Highland for some shuttle runs.

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    Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    Rumor is that the podium at Fat Birkie were rolling Heds.


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    I looked at someone's HED wheels before a race recently and noticed that her's were leaking sealant around the bead. She brushed it off as water, but it was clearly green sealant.

    Any others notice that their HED tubeless wheels leak?

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    Had trouble sealing spoke holes initially. Haven't lost a drop since (nate and bud, 300 miles) .

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    Rumor is that the podium at Fat Birkie were rolling Heds.


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    Are you talking about the Knonlly Podium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    I have heard a few people express a problem with the HED rim at low pressures. Anyone have any experience at less than 5 psi?
    I currently ride mine at 6 psi and hav gone as low as 3 psi in really deep snow. As for the leaking they were probably just mounted.

    Here is a tip if you buy them. First make sure you get the 3" wide Gorilla tape as the 2" doesn't really work that well for the nipple sealing.

    Mount the tire filled with Stan's and then dip a clean shop rag in the Stan's sealant and wipe/soak with rim bead and outside of the tire bead. This will help the tire mount (acts a lubricant) and it will also help seal the rim/tire bead much quicker. You will have to ride the bike at least once to help it get the Stan's everywhere it needs to seal but after the first or second ride it should completely seal it self up.

    ps I do check the tire prior to every ride and the most I have ever pumped in was 2 pumps.
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    I am very happy with mine. No problem with the tubeless setup per the directions supplied. Pretty quick turnaround. I haven't needed to go below 5psi yet so I can't answer that question but I can't imagine it would be an issue.

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    Has anyone dealt directly with HED to purchase their wheels?

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    Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    Quote Originally Posted by Monument247 View Post
    Has anyone dealt directly with HED to purchase their wheels?
    Kinda yes. I talked with them several times and then had my local bike shop get the RA # for the hubs


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    Thanks, Way2. Unfortunately, I have no LBS. The nearest is an 85 mile round trip. It'd be great if I could order a set of wheels with hubs from them. I'm not sure that I'm ready to drop that kind of money yet. When I decide, I'll call HED and see if I can buy a pair direct.

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    Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    I know fat bikes had built 9Zero7 hubs with HED carbon rims built up ready to go on there site.

    Also North Central Cycle in Dekalb, Il can order hubs & Rims and ship them direct to your residents or work with a signature required delivery.
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    I saw a set of HED's laced to i9's for sale at Cycle Haven https://www.facebook.com/pages/CYCLE...11338492337632

    Give them a call...

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    Where can I buy a built up set ready to go and how much now..? Can someone please post a link..Thanks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekmogul View Post
    Where can I buy a built up set ready to go and how much now..? Can someone please post a link..Thanks..
    If you just google "Hed Big Deal Rims" you will get lots of links, inckuding Hed which should give you all the information you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    If you just google "Hed Big Deal Rims" you will get lots of links, inckuding Hed which should give you all the information you need.
    Yes already have it figured out and HED will be sending them already built up..
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    I think I read somwhere that he'd only recommend that these rims only be used in sand and snow ( although I can't find anything on this on heds website )
    I'm looking at a set but they would be solely used on dirt/gravel trails
    Does anyone know if this is the case?
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    So you need Kuroshiro rims ! 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat2A View Post
    So you need Kuroshiro rims ! 😉
    Nice Kuroshiro ensō685 carbon fat bike rims — First look - BikeRadar
    Bit out of my price range , I'm already doubled my original budget !!!
    Buy once and buy right
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    I received mine. I posted pictures in the corresponding post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat2A View Post
    I received mine. I posted pictures in the corresponding post.
    Do you have a set
    Sorry where are the pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpo View Post
    Do you have a set
    Sorry where are the pics?
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    Sorry again
    I just seen the thread
    They look real nice with the white on the rim
    ,how many $$$$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekmogul View Post
    Where can I buy a built up set ready to go and how much now..? Can someone please post a link..Thanks..
    HED Big Deal Carbon Fat Bike Wheels

    Quote Originally Posted by ironpo View Post
    I think I read somwhere that he'd only recommend that these rims only be used in sand and snow ( although I can't find anything on this on heds website )
    Hed currently has no restrictions on terrain. Not sure where that rumor started (maybe Hed at one point) but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EPcycles View Post
    HED Big Deal Carbon Fat Bike Wheels



    Hed currently has no restrictions on terrain. Not sure where that rumor started (maybe Hed at one point) but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
    thanks
    yes I got an email back from hed saying much the same thing
    just a rumor
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    Dang it that's what I get for listening to rumors, I should have bought a set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpo View Post
    I think I read somwhere that he'd only recommend that these rims only be used in sand and snow ( although I can't find anything on this on heds website )
    I'm looking at a set but they would be solely used on dirt/gravel trails
    Does anyone know if this is the case?
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    I have beaten the crap out of mine on dirt single track with jumps, rocks and everything you can think of.

    Recently I upgraded to the Bluto and increased the tire pressure to 10lbs and so far no problems.
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    Just spoke with HED - No restriction on type of trail with there rims.

    ps - Just check out there facebook page and you will see plenty of pics of people abusing them.

    https://www.facebook.com/hedcycling
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    What is the ERD for these rims? Free spoke shows 564, which doesn't seem possibly correct.
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    Hed Big Deal Carbon Rims!

    Erd ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    What is the ERD for these rims? Free spoke shows 564, which doesn't seem possibly correct.
    Doesn't matter, since HED won't let you, or even your shop, build wheels from their rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    What is the ERD for these rims? Free spoke shows 564, which doesn't seem possibly correct.
    It isn't possible.
    I think It's around 540...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Doesn't matter, since HED won't let you, or even your shop, build wheels from their rims.
    I own a one. I have already broken two spokes. When the shop replaced them, I asked for the sizes, but they didn't remember. I'd like some spare spokes, but can't measure the ones on it accurately without removing a few spokes--which I'd rather not do. If I knew the ERD, I could calculate the likely spoke sizes and pick up a few spares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    I own a one. I have already broken two spokes. When the shop replaced them, I asked for the sizes, but they didn't remember. I'd like some spare spokes, but can't measure the ones on it accurately without removing a few spokes--which I'd rather not do. If I knew the ERD, I could calculate the likely spoke sizes and pick up a few spares.
    Sorry for the snarky comment. As a DIY guy, it's annoying to me that I can't build up my own wheels. Are you allowed to replace broken spokes without voiding their warranty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Sorry for the snarky comment. As a DIY guy, it's annoying to me that I can't build up my own wheels. Are you allowed to replace broken spokes without voiding their warranty?
    No worries. I don't know whether it would void the warranty, but I'll be using the wheel on the ITI, so I really don't have any choice but to replace on the way if one or more spokes break.
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    Why don't you just ask HED? I'm sure if you tell them the story they'd help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars_D View Post
    I own a one. I have already broken two spokes. When the shop replaced them, I asked for the sizes, but they didn't remember. I'd like some spare spokes, but can't measure the ones on it accurately without removing a few spokes--which I'd rather not do. If I knew the ERD, I could calculate the likely spoke sizes and pick up a few spares.
    You've broken two spokes already, on a front wheel? JRA, or were there sticks in the spokes involved?

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