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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    I couldn't get the complete bike, sold out immediately. So I got the frame and robbed all the parts off of my Mukluk. I must say the handling is greatly improved with the Trek frame. Stiffer and more solid feeling and I can toss it around like my Superfly Single Speed. The frame and fork are exactly 1lb lighter than the Mukluk. But I'm still at 28lb. I saw the other thread with a 24lb build geared and I'm running single speed, so I know I have lots of room for improvement. The biggest areas I see are wheels and crank.

    I've been reading post for a few days but I'm not coming up with a clear conclusion.

    Wheel suggestions? I'm willing to try the skinnier rims. No sand or snow in my regular riding area. I'm just using this as a trail bike.

    Crank? I've seen e13 and race face names tossed around...

    Thanks!
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    WTF with the pics? My originals were right side up till I downloaded them. Then I flipped my originals and tried again. Same thing!

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    Did you take them with your phone camera? Mine come up inverted if I upload from my "camera" folder. But if I use a crop & paste app, then save them unchanged to my "camera" folder on my iPad, they come up fine.
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    Ok. I think I followed you instructions...
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    I hate technology sometimes!

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    I think a new Marge Lite wheelset with lighter hubs/spokes would be your best bet for loosing weight, it might save you 2-2.5 lbs but that's just a guess without pounding the numbers.
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    Loose lips sink ships!
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    Guys you all screwed up an ample opportunity for an Australia joke.
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    MTBR sometimes flips pictures and doesn't let you rotate them. You submit them right-side-up and for some reason it thinks a different way is up. This was happening to me a few months back a lot.

    As far as where to save weight, the guy with the 24lb has a 130g Selle Italia SLR I think. You should have carbon bars around 160g most likely. No more than a 160mm rear brake and maybe look into some of the new carbon rotors out there. Stem is usually a crappy place to save weight, but since you don't have a lot of other places to go, that *might* be one.

    Much better bang for the buck:

    Carver Carbon fork.

    Eggbeaters.

    Tubeless.

    And of course it looks like the guy with that 24lb bike has skinny rims and the tires seem more like 3.8s...

    Point is, to get pretty light you make reasonable upgrades and spend a reasonable amount of money and time to do so. To get stupid light, you have to spend a stupid amount of money.
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    If your going to ride more trail than soft & loose, go w/ the Marge lite's or even some 50's. And consider a Ft. susp. fork. The Farley (reportedly) has a 190mm A to C, same as my custom built for the Maverick. Short chainstay's, little steeper HT, tighter clearance... possibly not best for snow & sand, but a ripper on trails, snowy trails, sandy trails, jeep trails... I think the Trek's gonna be a trail rippin' fat bike because of it's geo let alone optional weight savings.

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    [QUOTE=ward;10762121]If your going to ride more trail than soft & loose, go w/ the Marge lite's or even some 50's. And consider a Ft. susp. fork. The Farley (reportedly) has a 190mm A to C, same as my custom built for the Maverick. Short chainstay's, little steeper HT, tighter clearance... possibly not best for snow & sand, but a ripper on trails, snowy trails, sandy trails, jeep trails... I think the Trek's gonna be a trail rippin' fat bike because of it's geo let alone optional weight savings.


    I think from memory because the Farley is based on the Superfly which alone has awesome singletrail presence. Mine is being built as a single track weapon and also the ability for sand riding, I am no pro on the trails but I plan to use my Farley fattie to have some spirited fun and soak up some decent enduro rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Guys you all screwed up an ample opportunity for an Australia joke.
    I thought of it, but then I realised he's inflating his tyres with helium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Guys you all screwed up an ample opportunity for an Australia joke.
    Alright down under, were getting them the right way up for once.
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    Ive always wanted to go to Australia! Hahaa. Thanks for the picture fix.

    Ive already got bontager xxx carbon bar, x light stem, super light road saddle and the seat post is pretty light. XT brakes. So I should be more specific with my question.

    What's the lightest wheel set i can build? Skinny rims are fine.

    What's the lightest crank that will fit?

    Thanks!

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    My 24# Farley has a RaceXLite post, WCS stem, Answer carbon bars, RaceFace turbine crank and a Selle San Marco Magma saddle - all of which some pretty lightweight stuff. Also the Northpaw rims are quite easy on the scale.

    Remember every 110grams you take off is a 1/4 pound.

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    I wouldn't go any smaller rim than a Marge Lite... otherwise you will limit your tire selection (I can get 4.8" tires on Marges). Mate those rims to lightweight hubs like 616 or Hope. If running tubes, move to Q-Tubes Super Light.

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    I doubt you're gonna get 4.8" tires in a Farley. Ditto on the Qtubes as a good place to save weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3speed View Post
    Remember every 110grams you take off is a 1/4 pound.
    I lost 110 grams in the toilet this morning. My moonlander should probably be faster after work. I dunno though... I have a big lunch planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3speed View Post
    I doubt you're gonna get 4.8" tires in a Farley.
    I guess I should have read up on the Farley... I'm a bit surprised they didn't design it to fit both fat (4") & big fat (5"). Or at the very least, a big fat front.

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    Keeping it to 3.8" clearence allows for a little shorter chain stays. Guessing they're aiming at a faster, quicker, more trail oriented purpose with the Farley.

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    Ditto on the Marge Lites!
    I've been doing some wheel builds for a local shop and found the Marge Lites - built up with 130/190 Borealis Hubs / DT Swiss 2.0/1.8 Double Butted weigh in at about 2300g. I've also built some for a real weight weenie - used DT 2.0/1.5 triple butted and it shaved about 140 grams. I've actually ridden the Yampa with those wheels and the bike is narrow-bike fast!

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    I'm shooting for 23lbs by the end of the month. I will keep you posted.


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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    One suggestion that I will make is spend all of your money on a lightweight set of wheels. Rotating wait is much harder to get moving and keep moving.

    i9 hubs with Marge light rims with an uber light cassette. Convert to tubeless using Gorilla Clear Repair tape, 4 cups of Stan's and a set of light weight tires that match your riding conditions.

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    Lock-on grips weigh something like 90-120 g. I'd swap them to foam or silicon grips For example Lizard Skins DSP grips are quite light (mine weighed 25 g with end plugs) and feel quite comfortable:

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    ESI silicon grips and Rithchey's foam grips are also nice IMO, although they are not exactly lightweight (≈50 g).

    I would even say that in this case the lighter option, i.e. foam/silicon grips would be both more comfortable and secure than lock-on grips (as lock-on mechanism can break if the grip suddenly twists).

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