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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    I couldn't get the complete bike, sold out immediately. So I got the frame and robbed all the parts off of my Mukluk. I must say the handling is greatly improved with the Trek frame. Stiffer and more solid feeling and I can toss it around like my Superfly Single Speed. The frame and fork are exactly 1lb lighter than the Mukluk. But I'm still at 28lb. I saw the other thread with a 24lb build geared and I'm running single speed, so I know I have lots of room for improvement. The biggest areas I see are wheels and crank.

    I've been reading post for a few days but I'm not coming up with a clear conclusion.

    Wheel suggestions? I'm willing to try the skinnier rims. No sand or snow in my regular riding area. I'm just using this as a trail bike.

    Crank? I've seen e13 and race face names tossed around...

    Thanks!
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    WTF with the pics? My originals were right side up till I downloaded them. Then I flipped my originals and tried again. Same thing!

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    Did you take them with your phone camera? Mine come up inverted if I upload from my "camera" folder. But if I use a crop & paste app, then save them unchanged to my "camera" folder on my iPad, they come up fine.
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    Ok. I think I followed you instructions...
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    I think a new Marge Lite wheelset with lighter hubs/spokes would be your best bet for loosing weight, it might save you 2-2.5 lbs but that's just a guess without pounding the numbers.

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    Guys you all screwed up an ample opportunity for an Australia joke.
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    MTBR sometimes flips pictures and doesn't let you rotate them. You submit them right-side-up and for some reason it thinks a different way is up. This was happening to me a few months back a lot.

    As far as where to save weight, the guy with the 24lb has a 130g Selle Italia SLR I think. You should have carbon bars around 160g most likely. No more than a 160mm rear brake and maybe look into some of the new carbon rotors out there. Stem is usually a crappy place to save weight, but since you don't have a lot of other places to go, that *might* be one.

    Much better bang for the buck:

    Carver Carbon fork.

    Eggbeaters.

    Tubeless.

    And of course it looks like the guy with that 24lb bike has skinny rims and the tires seem more like 3.8s...

    Point is, to get pretty light you make reasonable upgrades and spend a reasonable amount of money and time to do so. To get stupid light, you have to spend a stupid amount of money.
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    If your going to ride more trail than soft & loose, go w/ the Marge lite's or even some 50's. And consider a Ft. susp. fork. The Farley (reportedly) has a 190mm A to C, same as my custom built for the Maverick. Short chainstay's, little steeper HT, tighter clearance... possibly not best for snow & sand, but a ripper on trails, snowy trails, sandy trails, jeep trails... I think the Trek's gonna be a trail rippin' fat bike because of it's geo let alone optional weight savings.

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    [QUOTE=ward;10762121]If your going to ride more trail than soft & loose, go w/ the Marge lite's or even some 50's. And consider a Ft. susp. fork. The Farley (reportedly) has a 190mm A to C, same as my custom built for the Maverick. Short chainstay's, little steeper HT, tighter clearance... possibly not best for snow & sand, but a ripper on trails, snowy trails, sandy trails, jeep trails... I think the Trek's gonna be a trail rippin' fat bike because of it's geo let alone optional weight savings.


    I think from memory because the Farley is based on the Superfly which alone has awesome singletrail presence. Mine is being built as a single track weapon and also the ability for sand riding, I am no pro on the trails but I plan to use my Farley fattie to have some spirited fun and soak up some decent enduro rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Guys you all screwed up an ample opportunity for an Australia joke.
    I thought of it, but then I realised he's inflating his tyres with helium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    Guys you all screwed up an ample opportunity for an Australia joke.
    Alright down under, were getting them the right way up for once.
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    Ive always wanted to go to Australia! Hahaa. Thanks for the picture fix.

    Ive already got bontager xxx carbon bar, x light stem, super light road saddle and the seat post is pretty light. XT brakes. So I should be more specific with my question.

    What's the lightest wheel set i can build? Skinny rims are fine.

    What's the lightest crank that will fit?

    Thanks!

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    My 24# Farley has a RaceXLite post, WCS stem, Answer carbon bars, RaceFace turbine crank and a Selle San Marco Magma saddle - all of which some pretty lightweight stuff. Also the Northpaw rims are quite easy on the scale.

    Remember every 110grams you take off is a 1/4 pound.

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    I wouldn't go any smaller rim than a Marge Lite... otherwise you will limit your tire selection (I can get 4.8" tires on Marges). Mate those rims to lightweight hubs like 616 or Hope. If running tubes, move to Q-Tubes Super Light.

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    I doubt you're gonna get 4.8" tires in a Farley. Ditto on the Qtubes as a good place to save weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3speed View Post
    Remember every 110grams you take off is a 1/4 pound.
    I lost 110 grams in the toilet this morning. My moonlander should probably be faster after work. I dunno though... I have a big lunch planned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3speed View Post
    I doubt you're gonna get 4.8" tires in a Farley.
    I guess I should have read up on the Farley... I'm a bit surprised they didn't design it to fit both fat (4") & big fat (5"). Or at the very least, a big fat front.

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    Keeping it to 3.8" clearence allows for a little shorter chain stays. Guessing they're aiming at a faster, quicker, more trail oriented purpose with the Farley.

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    Ditto on the Marge Lites!
    I've been doing some wheel builds for a local shop and found the Marge Lites - built up with 130/190 Borealis Hubs / DT Swiss 2.0/1.8 Double Butted weigh in at about 2300g. I've also built some for a real weight weenie - used DT 2.0/1.5 triple butted and it shaved about 140 grams. I've actually ridden the Yampa with those wheels and the bike is narrow-bike fast!

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    I'm shooting for 23lbs by the end of the month. I will keep you posted.


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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    One suggestion that I will make is spend all of your money on a lightweight set of wheels. Rotating wait is much harder to get moving and keep moving.

    i9 hubs with Marge light rims with an uber light cassette. Convert to tubeless using Gorilla Clear Repair tape, 4 cups of Stan's and a set of light weight tires that match your riding conditions.

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    Lock-on grips weigh something like 90-120 g. I'd swap them to foam or silicon grips For example Lizard Skins DSP grips are quite light (mine weighed 25 g with end plugs) and feel quite comfortable:

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    ESI silicon grips and Rithchey's foam grips are also nice IMO, although they are not exactly lightweight (≈50 g).

    I would even say that in this case the lighter option, i.e. foam/silicon grips would be both more comfortable and secure than lock-on grips (as lock-on mechanism can break if the grip suddenly twists).

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    I agree with everything said above. I also think you should keep the Darryls and the Husker Du's. Feel like relacing them with DT Supercomps or Sapim Superspokes?
    Make a lighter rim strip and go ghetto tubeless.
    Carbon fork is awesome. My buddy just bought a Loaded stem that's silly light.
    I know I saw Ti spindles on Ebay for your Eggbeaters.
    Another thing I would take into consideration is how far out do you ride? I wouldn't want to make a fragile bike that's gonna leave you walking.
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    Can you confirm whether the Farley has a tapered fork steerer or straight. I know the frame has a tapered head tube but have heard rumors that the fork has a straight steerer. Wondering about the compatability of a Carver Carbon Fork on the Farley.

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Quote Originally Posted by DekerfTeamST View Post
    Can you confirm whether the Farley has a tapered fork steerer or straight. I know the frame has a tapered head tube but have heard rumors that the fork has a straight steerer. Wondering about the compatability of a Carver Carbon Fork on the Farley.
    Current Trek fork
    Straight steerer with 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" bottom race.
    1,172 grams
    490mm long
    46mm offset and stiff as all get out

    Carbon O'Beast - 465mm long

    Corvus Carbon Fork - 455mm long wont' work[/B]

    Borealis FF1 Fork - 468mm long

    Which leaves you the Salsa Beargrease Fork at 482mm long. It's the closest one that I have found.

    Salsa Makwa Beargrease Carbon Fiber Fork
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    51 mm offset and should give some compliance
    15 x 142 Axle - You will need to convert your existing hub.
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    The Trek fork does in fact have a straight 1 1/8" steerer. It's a steel steerer as well. The steerer is pressed into the aluminum crown of the fork. The crown is diameter matched to the bottom end of the Farley's tapered headtube ( which uses Campy style drop in bearings). An 1 1/8" to 1 1/2" step down crown race is installed on the fork.

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    I stand corrected. It in fact a straight steerer.

    But in the end you still need a 19" fork





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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Rockland. Can you confirm that the measurements I have for the axle to crown are correct. I found specs on the Beargrease fork and it states 468mm which would open up the options and I would buy the Borealis tomorrow as it would match my other bikes




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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    Rockland. Can you confirm that the measurements I have for the axle to crown are correct. I found specs on the Beargrease fork and it states 468mm which would open up the options and I would buy the Borealis tomorrow as it would match my other bikes




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    I'll try to measure one tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockland View Post
    The Trek fork does in fact have a straight 1 1/8" steerer. It's a steel steerer as well. The steerer is pressed into the aluminum crown of the fork. The crown is diameter matched to the bottom end of the Farley's tapered headtube ( which uses Campy style drop in bearings). An 1 1/8" to 1 1/2" step down crown race is installed on the fork.
    So if I'm understanding this right the lower bearing in the head tube would accept a tapered steerer. It's not reduced. It's the crown race that has a reduced I.D. to fit the straight steerer. I think I may have found an option but am doing further research.

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Please share as maybe we can help each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    Please share as maybe we can help each other
    Will do as soon as I get further information and can confirm a few things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DekerfTeamST View Post
    So if I'm understanding this right the lower bearing in the head tube would accept a tapered steerer. It's not reduced. It's the crown race that has a reduced I.D. to fit the straight steerer. I think I may have found an option but am doing further research.

    Yes the lower bearing in the headtube is a 1.5". A tapered fork can be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockland View Post
    Yes the lower bearing in the headtube is a 1.5". A tapered fork can be used.
    Perfect. Now to find the correct crown race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DekerfTeamST View Post
    Perfect. Now to find the correct crown race.
    You can alway's remove the one that came on your fork.

    I can also confirm that the fork length is 490mm which Trek also confirms and so can I as I removed the fork again last night to confirm that it is in fact 490mm. At this point I may just put a shock on the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    You can alway's remove the one that came on your fork.

    I can also confirm that the fork length is 490mm which Trek also confirms and so can I as I removed the fork again last night to confirm that it is in fact 490mm. At this point I may just put a shock on the bike.
    Thought the fork was 482mm from the previous post? A quick measurement, without removing the fork, I came up with right about 482 also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DekerfTeamST View Post
    Thought the fork was 482mm from the previous post? A quick measurement, without removing the fork, I came up with right about 482 also.
    I once again pulled my fork off after talking with Jake at Trek in Waterloo. He told me it was 490 spot on. So I pulled the fork off so I could measure it on the bench and in fact it is 490 just like he said. So with that being said we are only talking about 8mm or just a hare above a 1/4". That ain't do do so I am still going to keep my order going for the Salsa fork and use that fork when it comes in.

    On a side note I am working with the guys from Sandman Bikes to see if they have a compatible front suspension fork for the summer.

    ps - 8mm difference isn't a big deal as you can easily do that with tire pressure and if you think about that is only 10% of the travel of the suspension fork that was designed for this frame.
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    If your using a fork with a tapered steerer you will need a 1.5 crown race. Should cost you between $12.00 - $15.00. What fork did you order? The Beargrease is only 468 axel to crown.

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    You can alway's remove the one that came on your fork.

    I can also confirm that the fork length is 490mm which Trek also confirms and so can I as I removed the fork again last night to confirm that it is in fact 490mm. At this point I may just put a shock on the bike.
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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    The carbon fork on the beargrease is 19" or 482mm. I had one in my hand to confirm the measurement.

    Plus I talked with Ben at Salsa and he confirmed the length at 482mm for the new carbon fork

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    If I have time on Sunday I will go measure and take pics of the Beargrease carbon fork so everyone can see it
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    Cool, they call that fork the Makwa. The Beargrease fork is last years Aluminum fork as described in the diagram above. They also make a Aluminum Bearpaw fork with a 483mm axel to crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    The carbon fork on the beargrease is 19" or 482mm. I had one in my hand to confirm the measurement.

    Plus I talked with Ben at Salsa and he confirmed the length at 482mm for the new carbon fork

    Edit:

    If I have time on Sunday I will go measure and take pics of the Beargrease carbon fork so everyone can see it
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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    So what does the bearpaw fork weigh ?


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    Salsa claims a weight of 720 Grams.

    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    So what does the bearpaw fork weigh ?


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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    That's as light as light as the carbon fork ???


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    Awesome conversation on getting a carbon fork on the Farley. I am going to research the salsa fork. On a side not here is my build of a Farley that I just love. Weight could totally be lost in a few places but I have really enjoyed this for all trail conditions. My take on a Farley

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    They are listed as the same weight, some people prefer the ride of carbon and some like the durability of Aluminum. One thing to keep in my is you will need to space your brake rotor over or get a new front hub if you go with the Salsa fork. The new Salsa fork's use front disc spacing and the farley uses rear disc spacing.

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    That's as light as light as the carbon fork ???


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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    The salsa carbon is 15 x 142 is that what your saying ?
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    The Salsa Makwa is 15 x 142 the Salsa Bearpaw is 9mm, they both have the brake rotor closer to the leg of the fork, i.e. front disc spacing were the Farley and older Salsa fork's have the rotor further away from the fork leg i.e. rear disc spacing.

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    The salsa carbon is 15 x 142 is that what your saying ?
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    I received my Bearpaw fork and it is not even close to the claimed weight. It weighs 930 grams. A real bummer. I was told it was a replacement for the Beargrease fork with updated geometry, longer axel to crown and slightly more offset. I have a Beargrease fork on my bike now and it weighs 707 grams. It also has anything cage mounts, they contribute to the weight gain. Looks like it is the OE fork from the new Mukluk

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    I received my Bearpaw fork and it is not even close to the claimed weight. It weighs 930 grams. A real bummer. I was told it was a replacement for the Beargrease fork with updated geometry, longer axel to crown and slightly more offset. I have a Beargrease fork on my bike now and it weighs 707 grams. It also has anything cage mounts, they contribute to the weight gain. Looks like it is the OE fork from the new Mukluk

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    Here is one picture of the Beargrease on my bike Marty. I like the look of the fork, I do wish the Bearpaw was the same fork with updated geometry.


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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    The parts are stacking up





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    Looks like an awesome stack. Fun times ahead for sure.

    Are you doing the Next SL crank?

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    They are on my want list - However the Wheels have pretty much blown the budget out of the water. i9 Hubs with HED CF hoops

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    Looks like an awesome stack. Fun times ahead for sure.

    Are you doing the Next SL crank?
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    I can understand that. Easy enough to add later. Hey, did you weigh the Makwa?

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    I will weigh it tonight and post a picture.

    ps I also want the Next SL cranks on my Full Suspension bike for the summer and summer is only a couple months away.

    it also doesn't help that I am ordering new wheels for my Camaro

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    I can understand that. Easy enough to add later. Hey, did you weigh the Makwa?
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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Here ya go -- fork

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    And the wheels









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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Rode the bike today with the new wheels what a difference. Hopefully the correct lower race will show up on Monday and we can install the new fork.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    Rode the bike today with the new wheels what a difference. Hopefully the correct lower race will show up on Monday and we can install the new fork.




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    Cool

    Hey the chain that trek put on the bike was it Sram or Shimano?

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Mine has a SRAM
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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Looks like I didn't post pics of the fork. Still trying to figure out the lower bearing race. Hopefully we will figure it out on Monday



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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    Looks like I didn't post pics of the fork. Still trying to figure out the lower bearing race. Hopefully we will figure it out on Monday



    The lower headset takes a IS52/40/H1 cane creek number.
    Bottom Head Tube Inside Dia. 52.1mm
    Crown Race Seat Dia. 39.79mm
    Bottom Stack Height 1mm

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Thank you so much

    This is for the 1 1/2 salsa fork correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    Mine has a SRAM
    thanks

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    Is the Salsa fork tapered? if so yes. Have u tried the race off the original trek fork.

    U can look here if it not tapered and enter the measurements into the head set finder you need a micrometer to take the mes. there in mm.
    Headset Fit Finder | Cane Creek Cycling Components

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    The salsa fork is tapered 1 1/2" bottom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    The salsa fork is tapered 1 1/2" bottom
    Then u should be able to take the race off the trek fork that came off the bike unless the race is build onto the fork. Take a close up pic of the trek fork and post it.

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    The race on the bike is 1 1/4
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    Leave it to trek to build a tapered frame and not use a tapered fork. That crane creek part number for tapered but when the finder ask if u using the factory fork it gives u the tapered lower race size so not sure would call trek or crane creek and ask them.

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    we called Trek that was useless


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    The stock race is 1 1/8" all you need is a 1.5 crown race. The stock bearing is a low end bearing but it works. Most any bike shop should have a 1.5 crown race or a IS™ headset. With Cane Creek you can buy just the Lower bearing and race or just the race. I have a couple of races in my basement, if you cannot find one I can mail you one tomorrow.
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    I see your pics of the fork on the page back now. Yeah there tech dept sucks if its not factory trek stuff they get lost.
    Just the race would be like this on 12 bucks
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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    i didn't know cane creek and FSA shared the same race

    btw thank you for all of your help


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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    i didn't know cane creek and FSA shared the same race

    btw thank you for all of your help


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    Heck your helping us lol now we now whats on our bikes now.

    Were did u buy that beargrease fork from and how much was it?

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    ill keep you guys posted


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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    ill keep you guys posted


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    Hey were did u order your fork from cant find it on salsa website?

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    2bici in willow springs il.
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    You can call him and he will ship it to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    2bici in willow springs il.
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    You can call him and he will ship it to you
    What was the price on it shipped?

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    I'll talk to him tomorrow.

    Retail is 599 on the fork. Joe gave me a better deal because I bought the wheels and a few more parts.
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    It's on



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    So which race did u end up getting Cane Creek or FSA?
    Looks great on there with rims too

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    FSA worked perfectly
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    Is your bike a medium frame?

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    Small 15.5
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    Way2ManyBike, what size stem and what bar are you using?

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    Way2ManyBike, what size stem and what bar are you using?
    I swapped to. Race Face Turbine 70mm stem and a wide low rise race face bar


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    Hey Way2many bikes what Cassette did u go with? i see u got the on-one 42 tooth cog on there.

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    SRAM 1070 and it works flawless
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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    The one up set up dropped a full pound







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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    My Farely rocks and I'm trying to lighten it for summer trail riding as well.

    Couple questions.....

    Does the Makwa fork come with the through axle or do I need to purchase one? Pics always show without and the websites don't really say. I have a spare Maxle if it's the same.

    Also, I have scoured the web for conversions of the 135mm Salsa 3 15mm conversion caps and have found the Salsa 2 caps in a bunch of places. Will the Salsa 2 caps work on the Salsa 3 hubs?

    Once I convert the hubs will I need a spacer for the rotor or will thing align with the makwa?

    Thanks in advance for you guys guidance! My destination is 25 lbs on the Farely!


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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Joe at 2BICI in willow springs has the for and the correct lower race, and the correct salsa 3 adapters in stock for the Farley.

    And yes it comes with the axle which is 142mm x 15mm

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    Once I convert the hubs will I need a spacer for the rotor or will thing align with the makwa?

    Thanks in advance for you guys guidance! My destination is 25 lbs on the Farely!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
    No spacers were needed for the rotors. As for 25lbs I am finally there and it took a whole bunch of light stuff to get it there. My farley is 25.6lbs with pedals.

    Here is my build.

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    Race Face Carbon Seatpost (still need to cut it )
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    Parts Removed:
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    If I had any money left which I don't I could swap out the cranks for a set of Race Face Carbon Fibers ones and the buy the XX brakes which would take more weight off. But I really love the green color of the cranks and the brakes work just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Way2ManyBikes View Post
    No spacers were needed for the rotors. As for 25lbs I am finally there and it took a whole bunch of light stuff to get it there. My farley is 25.4lbs with pedals.

    Here is my build.

    HED Carbon Wheels / i9 Hubs
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    Race Face Carbon Seatpost (still need to cut it )
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    Race Face Narrow Wide Single Ring
    Sram 1070 Cassette
    w/One Up Components 42 tooth Big Ring Swap
    Xpedo Spry Pedals

    Parts Removed:
    Front Shifter & Front Derailleur ( 1lb )

    If I had any money left which I don't I could swap out the cranks for a set of Race Face Carbon Fibers ones and the buy the XX brakes which would take more weight off. But I really love the green color of the cranks and the brakes work just fine.
    So did you stick with 36 tooth up front or 34 tooth?

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    For the winter a 30 tooth and summer a 34 tooth

    The 30 works great in the deep snow when you need to gently pedal so you don't over torque the rear tire.


    2015 05-21 Update.

    I never went up on the front sprocket. I have kept the 30 tooth on the bike year round and it works perfectly for summer also.

    Currently I am running the 30 tooth up front and 11-36 Cassette in the rear and still considering putting the One Up 42 on the rear for harder climbs.
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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Got my Makwa fork and all the parts. Everything went perfectly except....

    I purchased the FSA crown race but it's too thin. The fork rubs the frame. It's pretty tight. Never had this issue before.

    Is the cane creek race and bearing a little thicker than the FSA. Probably need about a half millimeter. If so I'll replace the entire headset with a 110....

    Do they make a spacer for a crown race? A 4mm wide, 1mm thick washer with a 1.5" hole in it would fix the issue.

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    Got my Trek Farley built, now I need some weight loss suggestions.

    Well. Must be a tolerance stacking issue between fork, headset bearing, race, and frame.

    Nothing an old pickle jar lid, the drill press, and a fly cutter couldn't solve. Made myself a 0.003 thick spacer and put it under the race. Voila, problem solved.

    Can't believe that somebody doesn't make such a critter. At least the power of google couldn't locate one.

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