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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    And there's the odd part. Some people have this issue, others don't.
    Common denominator: Gorilla Tape with Stans.
    With other sealers?
    No stan's here, I DIY with the moldbuilder+washerfluid+slime mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    No stan's here, I DIY with the moldbuilder+washerfluid+slime mix.
    Which slime do you use, the original fibered stuff or the new latex.

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    I've had multiple goes at the Gorilla tape method on a Black Floyd/Marge Lite setup. First time worked reasonably well. It held for four months - before sealant leaks between the rim cutouts and the rim strip became too much. Subsequent Gorilla tape setups on that wheel set have failed right away - leaking from seam between rim cutout and rim strip.

    I think I will try to the split tube method. The ones I have seen look awful - with the excess tube overlapping the outside of the rim. Does trimming off the excess tube hanging out of the rim affect the reliability of the split tube conversion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shacklyn View Post
    I've had multiple goes at the Gorilla tape method on a Black Floyd/Marge Lite setup. First time worked reasonably well. It held for four months - before sealant leaks between the rim cutouts and the rim strip became too much. Subsequent Gorilla tape setups on that wheel set have failed right away - leaking from seam between rim cutout and rim strip.

    I think I will try to the split tube method. The ones I have seen look awful - with the excess tube overlapping the outside of the rim. Does trimming off the excess tube hanging out of the rim affect the reliability of the split tube conversion?
    try using Clownshoes rimstrips. Mine have 8 months and 1500 miles, with a tire change as well. No issues and super easy to setup.
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    You can trim it very closely if you want - I have trimmed some in the past so closely that you could only see the tube if you looked really closely (face on the tire type close). You just pull the loose stuff back and trim with a razor blade or scissors. The tire bead will hold the tube in place as long as you don't pull the tube up too hard when you trim the tube, I'm saying that theoretically as I've never had this happen.

    The one negative of a close trim is that it will be difficult to reuse the tube if you have to pull the tire off, but even with that, I have trimmed very close and been able to get it to hold after changing a tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    try using Clownshoes rimstrips. Mine have 8 months and 1500 miles, with a tire change as well. No issues and super easy to setup.
    I had issues.

    Riding Fat and still just as fast as I never was.

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    Yep same here, I trim with a sharp utility knife pretty close to tire, works well. Managed to reseat bead once after flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestdummy View Post
    I had issues.

    Well you can't run 80psi on fat rims....

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    what did you do to make that happen and what is that white stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    what did you do to make that happen and what is that white stuff?
    I had my Bud and Lou set up with the split tube method and they worked great. They were in need of new Stan's, so I decided I would install my old BFL's and set them up with tape, because I had cut my split tube tight to the rims. My first mistake was using my old rim strips. The strips were no longer flat after being in the tires for 18 months. Because the strips weren't flat, the tape didn't totally adhere to all of the strip. Tires both inflated fine, no leaks after 2 days at 25 psi. My second mistake was putting a mostly black tire in the back of my truck while the hot sun was heating it up. Major blow-out.

    My rear tire is still holding air just fine with this set-up. And for what it's worth, I have had (2) 26 X 2.4-2.75 Q tubes (5 to 8 psi) blow out while in the back of my truck.
    Riding Fat and still just as fast as I never was.

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    Yes, pictures... This is what I've been getting from early on. This tire has been like this for weeks and weeks. I've probably got 300 miles on it while it has looked like this. The bulging rim tape is still doing its job, but it doesn't quite instill confidence.
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    that looks like a sht-ton of pressure! What PS are you running?
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    20psi. I use that wheelset for street and paved trail riding. That's the front tire in the pic. Before I changed it, one if the bulges on my rear tire was almost touching the spokes on either side of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1strongone1 View Post
    Use Tyvek tape for house wraps. It weighs nothing and works, been using for years. It is designed to be water and weather resistant. Gorilla tape is heavy and the adhesive is thick and gooey, which lets stans in. I have used gorilla tape in the past and it works, if you put enough layers on. I only run 1 layer of the Tyvek and it is money.

    http://www.dupont.com/products-and-s...seam-tape.html
    I just got a roll of tyvek for use on my mtb non-fat bike rims, just put a layer on and it's the easiest tape to apply that I've ever used. Do you know if one layer is enough for standard mtb tires (20-30 psi) or should I do two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 43st View Post
    Except it's a one shot deal and you have to toss the tube when you change tires. (Unless someone has come up with a method to reuse or tape a split-tube setup???)
    No you don't, buy the right size tube that leaves a minimum exposed tube, i have been using split tube for 2 years now, had no fails with it and swapped tyres and the split tube several times - re using the sealant in the tyre in the process
    The other advantage of split tube to rim tape is you can easy replace busted spoke nipples/spokes by simply deflating and rolling the tyre and tube to reveal the broke spoke nipple,

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