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    they actually exist? Haven't seen one w/Bluto yet. Sounds like we might see one soon tho. Still "processing"

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    i just got a call on the way home from work from a "the-house" rep...she was confirming my shipping address and told me that another shipment arrived and mine was one of them. awaiting my email with tracking info now....

    this is a red/black 16" 3.0 with rockshox i ordered on 10-28

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    Even me... Gonna kick that ball yet! Checking status...checking status (had to explain I was getting one 3 not three 3's)

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    My tracking number says tomorrow!!!
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    As packed

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    Only trouble I had was removing the front axle b/c I didnt notice the lock bolt on the bottom of the fork , no bent hanger(notice protective piece?) or fork. Next task is installing the Bluto..oh and weight is 33lbs (18") as pictured with pedals

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    Two words...Bad A$$. I love that bike, I'm buying a '14 Pug or that. Period.


    Nice

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    Looking good. Thanks for posting pics.

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    Awesome! Was there much assembly required? I assume you ordered the pedals as well since they weren't included.

    It looks like mine's at the local UPS depot already, won't deny the anticipation.
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    Good to see a lot of these bikes getting delivered. Congrats, everyone!
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    Put seat post on, front wheel, handlebar, tighten and align stem, pedals and minor cable tension adjustments. 20psi already in tires. Ride

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    Even mine has a shipping number now. They were going to ship 3 bikes instead of just a 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcracer2 View Post
    Put seat post on, front wheel, handlebar, tighten and align stem, pedals and minor cable tension adjustments. 20psi already in tires. Ride
    Like H Billies?

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    Only did a quick ride on the street, in 60mph wind gusts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcracer2 View Post
    Put seat post on, front wheel, handlebar, tighten and align stem, pedals and minor cable tension adjustments. 20psi already in tires. Ride
    Awesome, I was worried that they were just shipping as a pile of parts after the notice went up on the house website.

    Nice color choice too
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    I too was out last night in the Chicago suburban wind. Whole lotta fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcracer2 View Post

    As packed

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    Only trouble I had was removing the front axle b/c I didnt notice the lock bolt on the bottom of the fork , no bent hanger(notice protective piece?) or fork. Next task is installing the Bluto..oh and weight is 33lbs (18") as pictured with pedals
    Those are some pretty fat tires next to box. Going to try them?

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    Michelin Pilot Super Sports?

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    Directional? Different front & rear? Not sure if they'll fit. Maybe different sized carbon rims to lighten & change profile? Hah! Mine has been shipped. Snowstorm tomorrow night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcracer2 View Post
    Michelin Pilot Super Sports?
    Bike in box w/ either way to go on fork(s)? Could've chosen either one? What made you decide to go rigid?

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    Just pulled mine out. Rigid is pre installed
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    What is involved w/switching to Bluto, especially as hearset is concerned? Lower race need to be swapped? Been a while since I explored changng forks. Not as if I changed them on other bikes seasonally

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    Nice pics, rcracer. Are those Vee Rubber Speedsters on the new prototype HED carbon rims in the background in the top pic?

    Bike looks sick.
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    RE: chainstay clearance with Surly Lou.

    I just picked up my 3.0 last Friday at The House so I have a couple of rides on it - I love it so far. Last week we had more snow here in Minnesota so I put on a set of Bud and Lou tires. The chain stay clearance with the Lou in the back is very close. If I keep the rear tire pressure very low for snow riding (guessing 5 PSI) it doesnít rub the chainstays. However, last night I rode with more tire pressure (maybe 10 PSI) since a lot of the snow around here melted and the Lou rubbed the stays occasionally and the chain rubbed the tire when using the small chain ring coupled with lowest gear in back.

    I am kind of frustrated with this but I think if I only use the Lou for real snow riding at low PSI it will be OK. I am going to run this 1 X 10 so that should fix the chain rubbing the tire since I wonít use the granny ring anymore. Also, I have worked to make sure the rim is very true and that helped a bit. Worse-case scenario I will have to file down the side knobs a tiny bit. Hopefully the next generation of the 3.0ís have a slightly wider chainstays since a lot of people will want to run Bud and Louís for winter floatation.

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    Well this is disappointing. This was my chosen bike based on the ability to use the big tires. What is the point of a 190 rear if it can not do what a 170 rear already does? Lots of 170 options out there already and now I am waiting for a bike that can not do what it is claimed to do....

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    What size frame do you have?. Curious if it is on the small end.
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    I didn't break any Strava records on my commute this morning, but I did stop for a photo opportunity.

    I'm not impressed with the cable brakes, might have to get a shimano, at least for the front.

    Also keep in mind when assembling it, that the two front axle spacers are different sizes, and the smaller one goes on the brake side. That took me longer than it should have to figure out.
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    I have the 20Ē size frame. The pricepoint on the 3.0 compared to a Fatboy or a Moonlander is so good I think itís worth the workaround to make a Lou fit without rubbing the chain or stays. But if you want to run the stock 2 X 10 drivetrain and use a Lou, then look for something other than the 3.0. Other 4.8 tire options would probably be no problem but the Lou has some monster side treads.

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    Re: Framed Minnesota 3.0 with Bluto Fork & Rigid Fork

    Really enjoyed the first ride today. Very nimble. A steal at the price
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    You put Bluto on then? Seen a couple that just ran w/rigid. Comes rigid right (yeah... Still freakin waiting... ups knows nothing about parcel location?!). What was involved I installing Bluto? Kit come w/races that fit into headset?

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    It was easy. Races preinstalled. Just un bolt brake, stem, slide out, pull bearings, put bluto on and reverse instructions. Needed grease in there badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindsai View Post
    RE: chainstay clearance with Surly Lou.

    I just picked up my 3.0 last Friday at The House so I have a couple of rides on it - I love it so far. Last week we had more snow here in Minnesota so I put on a set of Bud and Lou tires. The chain stay clearance with the Lou in the back is very close. If I keep the rear tire pressure very low for snow riding (guessing 5 PSI) it doesnít rub the chainstays. However, last night I rode with more tire pressure (maybe 10 PSI) since a lot of the snow around here melted and the Lou rubbed the stays occasionally and the chain rubbed the tire when using the small chain ring coupled with lowest gear in back.

    I am kind of frustrated with this but I think if I only use the Lou for real snow riding at low PSI it will be OK. I am going to run this 1 X 10 so that should fix the chain rubbing the tire since I wonít use the granny ring anymore. Also, I have worked to make sure the rim is very true and that helped a bit. Worse-case scenario I will have to file down the side knobs a tiny bit. Hopefully the next generation of the 3.0ís have a slightly wider chainstays since a lot of people will want to run Bud and Louís for winter floatation.
    I thought folks were ruining Bud in Rear & Lou in front, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindsai View Post
    I have the 20Ē size frame. The pricepoint on the 3.0 compared to a Fatboy or a Moonlander is so good I think itís worth the workaround to make a Lou fit without rubbing the chain or stays. But if you want to run the stock 2 X 10 drivetrain and use a Lou, then look for something other than the 3.0. Other 4.8 tire options would probably be no problem but the Lou has some monster side treads.
    If this is true. How can they offer the 3.0XL and feel good about it? I'm still waiting for my bike to come in to upstate ny. I'm seriously thinking of going for the Fatboy instead, and even more now with what you've said. I did want to switch over to the Dillinger 5's as soon as I got the 3.0. Do you think they'll fit?

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    The 3.0XWT comes with 4.7 tires. The small difference between the stock 4.7 Bulldozer and a 4.8 Lou could be just enough that the 4.7 doesn't rub and the 4.8 has a slight rub.

    From left to right, comparing the Bud, Bulldozer, Lou and Snowshoe XL in this picture the Lou appears to be a tad taller which would probably make it a tighter fit at higher PSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawidan View Post
    The 3.0XWT comes with 4.7 tires. The small difference between the stock 4.7 Bulldozer and a 4.8 Lou could be just enough that the 4.7 doesn't rub and the 4.8 has a slight rub.

    From left to right, comparing the Bud, Bulldozer, Lou and Snowshoe XL in this picture the Lou appears to be a tad taller which would probably make it a tighter fit at higher PSI.

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    great answer. thanks

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    Hi, just ordered 3.0 and need to buy some brakes, yes already upgrading before I got the bike I think I will go with SLX as this will be my winter only bike. I have Ibis SLR for the rest of the year. Can someone please confirm that the rotors are 6 bolt and not centerlock? Also do I need post or I.S. adapters for the calipers? its hard to confirm from the pics I could find.

    Thanks!

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    ok, answering part of my own post, I found a pic of the woman's version and definitely looks like 6 bolt for the rotors.

    Still need to confirm the posts for the calipers

    thanks

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    The rotor is 6 bolt and I believe the caliper mount is a post mount which would make sense for the people who will be changing between the rigid and the Bluto.

    Here is a picture of the Rigid fork and it looks like a Post Mount

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    Framed Minnesota 3.0 with Bluto Fork & Rigid Fork-10393763_10205603022298827_3621273749491524649_n.jpgFramed Minnesota 3.0 with Bluto Fork & Rigid Fork-10429402_10205603022938843_2589951529491865292_n.jpgFramed Minnesota 3.0 with Bluto Fork & Rigid Fork-10521653_10205603023418855_191463790464460970_n.jpg

    today was the first ride on my 3.0 and my first real ride on a fat bike. i have to say i am hooked now! i'm coming from a Trek Marlin 29er and this bike just handles the nasty trails with way more composure...and i was running the rigid fork! i still have to install the bluto

    a few questions for the seasoned fat bikers:

    1. is it normal for these bikes to want to self steer? i was able to adapt pretty quick but it was the first thing i noticed.

    2. what tire pressure is normally run?

    thanks! love this thing!!!

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    I didn't notice too much self-steer at 12 PSI, but from what I have read it's fairly dependent on pressure.

    I haven't seen any real discussion of the H-Billie tire though, so I can't tell you any more than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjf6866 View Post
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    today was the first ride on my 3.0 and my first real ride on a fat bike. i have to say i am hooked now! i'm coming from a Trek Marlin 29er and this bike just handles the nasty trails with way more composure...and i was running the rigid fork! i still have to install the bluto

    a few questions for the seasoned fat bikers:

    1. is it normal for these bikes to want to self steer? i was able to adapt pretty quick but it was the first thing i noticed.

    2. what tire pressure is normally run?

    thanks! love this thing!!!
    1. Yes, Fatbikes do have some self steer. Some tires do it a lot more than others, especially at certain pressures.

    2. Depends on the terrain. For general summer use I run 8-10psi. For winter snow I run in the 4-6psi range.
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    H billies were great in the dirt. Grippy and cornered well. I need to go tubeless. Lots of momentum with stock tubes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawidan View Post
    The rotor is 6 bolt and I believe the caliper mount is a post mount which would make sense for the people who will be changing between the rigid and the Bluto.

    Here is a picture of the Rigid fork and it looks like a Post Mount

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    Thank you for the reply, your bike looks great, exact same color schema I ordered. Just got email that it will ship on Monday. Can't wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    Thank you for the reply, your bike looks great, exact same color schema I ordered. Just got email that it will ship on Monday. Can't wait
    where did you order your 3.0 from?

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    Has anybody weighed the innova 0.8mm lightweight tubes? I wonder how they compare to the standard Q-tube 2.4-2.7?
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    With some additional sanding and wheel truing I got rid of the chain stay wheel rub with the Lou. I am sure during certain circumstances it will still rub the stays when the wheel flexes laterally under load but I can live with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindsai View Post
    With some additional sanding and wheel truing I got rid of the chain stay wheel rub with the Lou. I am sure during certain circumstances it will still rub the stays when the wheel flexes laterally under load but I can live with that.
    your bike looks awesome. I'm waiting for mine in the same color. The 1X10 looks hot. What are running up there? Do you think the Dillinger 5's will fit based on your experience with the Lou?

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    It's disappointing to hear about the extra work required to fit Lou, The sanding especially. I was hoping a bike with 190mm rear , built to fit" 4.8" tires, would fit the tire that almost seems like it it set the standard for a winter snow tire when it cam eout.
    I got my bike Thursday and have only managed to get in a couple short rides around the neighborhood. we had 6" of fresh snow the evening I got my bike. The tires were really washing out. airing them down helped but added much rolling resistance. I really found myself wanting a more aggressive tire. But truth be told I don't expect to be riding in deep snow too often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADKMTNBIKER View Post
    your bike looks awesome. I'm waiting for mine in the same color. The 1X10 looks hot. What are running up there? Do you think the Dillinger 5's will fit based on your experience with the Lou?
    Thanks AKDMTNBIKER. I am running a Raceface narrow-wide 30 tooth chainring paired with an 11-36 SRAM cassette (stock cassette is 11-32). For peace of mind I installed a Paul derailleur-mount chain guide since the stock X7 rear derailleur doesnít have a clutch. The 760mm bar and 60mm stem feels right for this build.
    I would be very wary of running studded 4.8ís like the Dillinger 5ís with the limited chainstay clearance. They could ruin the frame. In fact, I have worn off the paint on each side of the inside of the chainstays from tire rub from before I sanded down the tires and made them fit better. I agree that Framed should have had designed these bikes more chainstay clearance like the Fatboy but otherwise the bike rocks. I still canít believe how fun this bike is to ride.

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    So what would you run in back to get similar grip, but no rub.
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    I didn't think the fatboy had wider stays. Thought they were 170 hubs? Ordered 3 for 190 hub thinking that would help make difference. Is fatboy rim 90 0r 100? Is that what allows Lou? 3's are 80's, no? Does that make a difference w/tire and clearance?

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