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    Fox 34 27.5+

    Saw this posted on FB yesterday
    65mm rim, Floater tire
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    WHA???

    Help me out here and forgive the stupid question. Is this a new fork? How wide is a "Floater" tire?

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    Thanks, hadn't seen the frontal pic Looks like 65mm rims with floaters? I believe this could be a good viable option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    WHA???

    Help me out here and forgive the stupid question. Is this a new fork? How wide is a "Floater" tire?
    27.5 plus fork new a few months ago with 110mm hub spacing and the Floater is a true 4" tire I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    WHA???

    Help me out here and forgive the stupid question. Is this a new fork? How wide is a "Floater" tire?
    It's a new fork for 27.5+ wheels and tires, boost spacing. Looks like it'll fit a 4.0 on a 65mm rim without trouble.

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    Thanks guys.

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    Looks like the 27.5+ is taking off nicely.

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    Details.


    That ^ link is no longer valid for this (now discontinued) fork.
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    That 15mm bolt on thru axle is pretty cool too.

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    Fox, just make a Fatty Fork already!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    This page has some more details: Explore 34 Bike Forks | FOX
    It states that max tire size is 3.25". Fox's marketing (and website) is confusing. I haven't been able to find what the difference is (if any) between what they were calling the Float 34 and the "Factory" forks.

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    Come on FOX just a few more cm's in the hips would bring all the boys to your yard!

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    Likin bikin is showing a fork, maybe it's this one, running whiskey 9 with vanhelgas

    140mm on travel

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    So close, yet so far.

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    This fork has the wheels turning in my head. What about setting up the front end of a fat bike like the Surly Wednesday with the Fox 34+ fork and 27.5 x 3 tire on a 45mm rim up front? Pair it with a 26 x 3.8 or 4.0 out back on a 65mm rim.

    With this combo you could get the majority of float from the back and more precise steering up front... It may even work better than 26x3.8 on packed snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    This fork has the wheels turning in my head. What about setting up the front end of a fat bike like the Surly Wednesday with the Fox 34+ fork and 27.5 x 3 tire on a 45mm rim up front? Pair it with a 26 x 3.8 or 4.0 out back on a 65mm rim.

    With this combo you could get the majority of float from the back and more precise steering up front... It may even work better than 26x3.8 on packed snow.

    nuff said!!

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    I wonder if the 2016 Rockshox Pike 27.5+ can pull that off?
    The Bluto is just too noodley! 2017 is a long time to wait for a Fat Pike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post

    nuff said!!
    I was thinking one of the larger 27.5+ tires like the Bridger...but yeah, nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    This fork has the wheels turning in my head. What about setting up the front end of a fat bike like the Surly Wednesday with the Fox 34+ fork and 27.5 x 3 tire on a 45mm rim up front? Pair it with a 26 x 3.8 or 4.0 out back on a 65mm rim.

    With this combo you could get the majority of float from the back and more precise steering up front... It may even work better than 26x3.8 on packed snow.
    This is why I put a 2015 Lefty on my Pugsley. It will be great as a "firm snow" bike. It is wide enough to run a B+ tire up front and whatever I want for the rear. Love the idea of a Wednesday and the Fox fork.
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    The fact it will fit a 4" tire on a 65mm rim is sweet - I'd pick one up if I could make my I9 135/142 front hub work with the new boost front standard. Just got it laced up to a LB carbon rim. Maybe someone out there could make some adapters. Without having done any measurements, I'm doubting that it would work without at least some re-dishing of the wheel. I also wonder if the Manitou + forks would have similar clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    This fork has the wheels turning in my head. What about setting up the front end of a fat bike like the Surly Wednesday with the Fox 34+ fork and 27.5 x 3 tire on a 45mm rim up front? Pair it with a 26 x 3.8 or 4.0 out back on a 65mm rim.

    With this combo you could get the majority of float from the back and more precise steering up front... It may even work better than 26x3.8 on packed snow.
    That's almost what I have with a Marzocchi Bomber, custom arch, 50mm rim and 3.8 Nates, front and rear (rear is on 65mm rim). And yes, it rocks!

    This new Fox fork would make it that much better, more travel, lighter wheel and tire and probably stiffer front end.

    I wonder if the same can be done with a Fox 34 29er fork. I know the 27.5+ conversion guys are doing it, just not sure of the max rim/tire width combo. Would also like to know the A-C differences of these 2 setups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgVT View Post
    I also wonder if the Manitou + forks would have similar clearance?
    Fox claims 3.25" tire clearance for 27.5+.
    Manitou claims 3.4" tire clearance for 27.5+.

    Both have 34mm stanchions. Manitou is a bit cheaper with potentially better clearance.

    I can't find any tire clearance claims for any Rockshox forks.

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    Does anyone have dimensions for all the plus forks, i.e axle to bridge and leg to leg width at the narrowest (at the seals).

    I need to fit a tandem and a bike that share wheels 26 x 4, 27.5+, 29+. It looks like the Float 34 plus would fit, still a little close, but a floater on a 65mm rim is what I have.

    What's the widest "theoretical" width for a fork running a boost hub spacing?

    I'm getting tired of waiting for a fat fork, I'm really tired of riding a Bluto, and I'm not willing (yet) to shell out the effort and cash to ride a DH boat anchor fork.

    I no longer believe we're going to get a burly fat fork. Simply put, plus forks appear to fit typical 4" tires, so a fat suspension fork is only necessary for 4"+ tires and those folks are not the ones clamoring for a suspension fork.

    As to the Wren, it's a relatively unknown fork (unless it's the same form as the fork of many names), it's questionable whether it'll be available with a significant travel (>120mm), and without having ridden one I am loath to throw $900 at one when I can buy a Float 34 27.5+ fork at the same price.

    So, is this the best we're gonna get for "crossover" segment?

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    A quote from the FB page about the fork on the Mutz "1.5T 51mm Rake AM (not kidding)"

    Is this good or bad?

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    The distance between the legs of this fork is 4.3" which allows the use of a 26/4" wheel/tire combination. I also suspect that for 27.5", the max tire width is a lot more than the 'recommended' 3.25"... 3.5" will definitely fit and I suspect 3.8" might too.

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    And here is the picture of my setup (80mm rim, Fox 27.5+, Bontrager Hodag 26/3.8"):


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    if only the 36 could do this...

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    Yeah, well, enjoy the 34+ while it lasts, because it's no longer listed on Fox's site and good luck finding it on large retail sites like Jenson. I suspect it's all going to be downhill from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezastel View Post
    Yeah, well, enjoy the 34+ while it lasts, because it's no longer listed on Fox's site and good luck finding it on large retail sites like Jenson. I suspect it's all going to be downhill from here.
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    Mastodon is heavier and burlier and doesn't allow on-the-fly travel adjust mode for those that need it. Fox 34+ 27.5 can be converted to Talas and works perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvette View Post
    Fox 34+ 27.5 can be converted to Talas and works perfectly.

    Agreed that that Fox was a great fork. Key word = was. No longer exists.

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    I would think the spoke angles on a narrow hub going to a rim with dual rows of spoke holes would make for a laterally flexy wheel as there is not much triangulation going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Agreed that that Fox was a great fork. Key word = was. No longer exists.
    Indeed. Luckily on Ebay with a bit of luck it's still possible to get a good working one.

    I wonder why Fox discontinued it? Personally I've got nothing but great experience with it, running 4.0 Vanhelga on 85 mm rims. It barely clears the fork on the sides, but it works without issues (except in mud).

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    I bought an extra one out of sheer greed before this fork disappears forever. There are going to be a few available online for a year or two more, but seems Fox has given up. Funnily enough, when I asked JensonUSA where I get a Fox Plus fork, they suggested a 29" fork, basically not caring in the least that a 29" will only house about 2.6" tire, if that.

    As to why it's being discontinued, Fox won't tell me. I'm guessing that the fork is rather unique in that it's stuck at 120mm travel (which in and of itself makes it more of a touring/fatbike-specific fork) and it's 110mm hub spacing so fatbike purists won't be able to use it anyway, but then again, they won't go for it simply because you cannot run a 4.8". So maybe it just hasn't met much demand.

    The best advice I can give regarding this fork for fatbike purposes is to avoid 80mm rims and use smaller rims either 65mm or 52mm, so your spokes aren't at 90 angle to the rim and don't scratch the brake caliper. Don't make my mistake. 65mm carbon rims are actually rather cheap nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezastel View Post
    in that it's stuck at 120mm travel

    Nope -- I stretched mine to 140, then 150, and could have gone to 160. Simple air shaft swap.

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    Mezastel: doesn't the new platform for 29 fit 27.5x2.8 (at least) ? and is more or less the same a-c, it just won't clear 3.25"? that will be why they signposted that fork I reckon.

    in fact I'm sure Walt had a 29+ in a 34 step cast? its just fat tyres that won't fit the new forks I think.

    its unlikely the 27.5+ fork being used to run 26x4" was a niche they were interested in serving going forward and seeing as 27.5x3 and 29x3 are covered they didn't need that extra .25" of clearance noted on the 16-18 27.5+ fork?

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    So if I wanted to pick one of these forks up, what exactly should I look for? All the different models make my head hurt!

    Oh yeah, anybody know if it would fit a 27.5 Hodag on a 65mm rim?

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    that's the thing: the only fork that fits hodag is the old 27.5 plus fork that is discontinued after 2018... I *think* Walt posted the part number for use somewhere - maybe on the plus forum....

    if you don't need hodag or 26x4 - the 29 forks will do grand for 2.8 and maybe 3.0.

    I think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Nope -- I stretched mine to 140, then 150, and could have gone to 160. Simple air shaft swap.
    Whoa, this is awesome, where can I read up on how to do this?

    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    Mezastel: doesn't the new platform for 29 fit 27.5x2.8 (at least) ? and is more or less the same a-c, it just won't clear 3.25"? that will be why they signposted that fork I reckon.

    in fact I'm sure Walt had a 29+ in a 34 step cast? its just fat tyres that won't fit the new forks I think.

    its unlikely the 27.5+ fork being used to run 26x4" was a niche they were interested in serving going forward and seeing as 27.5x3 and 29x3 are covered they didn't need that extra .25" of clearance noted on the 16-18 27.5+ fork?
    To be honest I don't know exactly what tire it clears because these evil manufacturers don't specify leg-to-leg distance, even on their technical documents. Whatever width their 29 forks have, it's not the same as that 27.5+ fork. Remember, the 27.5+ clears 3.25 *nominally* but in fact clears 3.8". So I don't know, maybe the difference is .25" or .5" or worse, but personally, like I said, I'd take Fox 34 over Bluto/Mastodon any time and 3.8" is good enough for me!

    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    that's the thing: the only fork that fits hodag is the old 27.5 plus fork that is discontinued after 2018... I *think* Walt posted the part number for use somewhere - maybe on the plus forum....

    if you don't need hodag or 26x4 - the 29 forks will do grand for 2.8 and maybe 3.0.

    I think!
    The code of the fork is 910-20-394. This fork will NOT clear 26x4 on a 80mm rim... on a 52mm maybe, but I wouldn't risk it. 3.8" tire on 65mm rim seems to be the sweet spot.

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    Fox 34 27.5+, Vanhelga 26x4.0" @ 10 PSI tubeless, Nextie Xiphias 85 mm.

    There IS clearance, but only a couple of milimeters on each fork leg.

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    So on the clarification front...

    A. This fork is best used with rims <80mm wide? (Would the Lithic Rhyolite be a good?)
    B. These forks might be of increased value as the market runs out? (asking for a friend)

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