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    First post - Ritchey Commando build

    Hi all, first time poster here hoping for some advice. I've noticed a Ritchey Commando frameset on offer and am considering buying it to build up gradually into a fat bike.

    But, after spending a long time reading around the topic, I am really none-the-wiser about what to build it up with. I was thinking something like this:

    Ritchey Commando frameset
    Halo fat bike front hub
    Halo far bike cromo rear hub
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    Stan's No Tubes ZTR Hugo 52 x2
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    Panaracer Far B Nimble Folding MTB Plus tyres
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    Shimano XT 1x11 groupset

    Would that work, it not any suggestions for what would? Also any advice on what to fill the bits I haven't accounted for with?

    Many thanks.

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    I would probably go for either 65mm or 80mm wide rims if you want 4in tires. Given that 170/ 135 QR is the "old style" you may be able to find some good deals on used wheels. I might also look at the Fatback hubset with 9mm and 10mm thru axles for the hubs. Another option that gets suggested relatively often is bikestore hubs. Additionally, I don't think Shimano makes a fat bike crankset. Look at Race Face cranks (Turbines, Aeffect, etc.) for 170mm rear ends. Sram has a couple decent options too. Drivetrain can be pretty much whatever you want: 9,10,11, or 12 would work as long as you have the right rear hub and freehub. 10 or 11 will get you the best bang for buck st this point I think. I think it's a straight steerer fork, so a standard headset will do. Otherwise, nothing special about the rest of the parts.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    The Commando uses a special inset headset, just read their website to find the correct size.
    I have a Commando and love the way it rides. I have mine set up with SRAM 9 speed and a double crank. A lot more gearing range.

    I would go with 65mm rims and different tires. Those Panaracer's are flat prone and delicate. The SRAM GX 100mm crankset is reasonably priced and works well.

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    Hey, I have a few questions for you. Where will you be riding the bike? Do you have a in service bike now? If so, what is it. Is there a desired goal at the completion of build?
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    Thanks all. Appreciate the responses.

    Shoo - I don't currently have any sort of MTB. Just a pretty battered old Specialized Allez for some longer road rides and commuting, and a very old Dawes Horizon I bought to do the Eroica with.

    Couple of other questions - Mike you mentioned that the Commando takes an inset headset but I can't find anything on the Ritchey site about that. Any recommendations for which headset to go for? Any of these any good: Wiggle Cycle | MTB Headsets

    Also, what have you got set up in the way of brakes? Thanks.

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    these frames are on crazy clearout at Merlin Cycle in the UK

    https://www.merlincycles.com/ritchey...17-110841.html
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    I have the Stans Hugo's with 4.0 Jumbo Jims and would agree with everyone here that 65-80mm wide rims are better overall. The Hugo's are lighter, make the bike steer a little lighter, and make tubeless easier to deal with but not worth the reduced traction/control and seem bouncier. I don't ride snow so impressions are from trail riding only but would think the advantages of wider rims would be even more important in snow.
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    Swerny, yeah that's the one I'm looking at. At that price I might just buy it and think about components later.

    I live in the UK, so am unlikely to do much snow riding. Trails and general off road I'm thinking.

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    Have a look at this , it may help :-

    https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/302438/

    Quite a lot of chat about this bike here :-

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/260838637377100/

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    Very handy. Thanks!

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    the correct headset is the 41.8 drop in headset
    Wiggle | Ritchey Comp Drop-In 1-1/8 Inch Headset | Headsets

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    Quote Originally Posted by senor_mikey View Post
    the correct headset is the 41.8 drop in headset
    Wiggle | Ritchey Comp Drop-In 1-1/8 Inch Headset | Headsets

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    any other headsets that will work with this frame? that one's out of stock and I'm having trouble finding that exact same one elsewhere.

    EDIT: After measuring the frame, it seems like this should work- can anyone confirm?

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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    This one seems like it should work, and it's actually available sooner (prime shipping) https://www.amazon.com/Token-Product...CAVXNB6PKA5WGR

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    Could look at Lithic rims, I had Wayne at speedgear build up a set for a fatboy frame I got a crazy good deal on and have been really happy with them.
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    Very good deal from Merlin indeed. Had to jump in and ordered size M. Thanks for the tip. Touring/gravel grinder with 29+ wheels and racks might be the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    Touring/gravel grinder with 29+ wheels and racks might be the goal.
    That's what I would do... build it, pic it and post it.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    I'd build that bike like this: Bike Hub Store hubs, 70mm Lithic Ryolite rims, Paul Components skewers. Raceface Aeffect crankset with Wolftooth 28 or 30 tooth ring, Shimano XT 11 speed cassette and whatever shifters, derailleur and brakes you like.

    Nice lookin' frameset.

    And if you want 29+ wheels, just swap the Lithics for Race Face Arcs in 40mm width.
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    Commando takes 135 mm qr front hub, but does anybody know if the disk brake is "front disk spacing" or "rear disk spacing"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    Commando takes 135 mm qr front hub, but does anybody know if the disk brake is "front disk spacing" or "rear disk spacing"?
    Front disk spacing. I used Hadley hubs from a Fatback on mine.
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    That is a great price!

    What is the geo and bb shell width? Prob 100mm, i'd guess.
    *edit* Yep, 100mm shell

    29+ would be sweet but not sure it would clear

    *edit* Found the geo:

    Frame Size
    S (15")
    M (17")
    L (19")
    XL (21")
    Top tube (effective)
    570
    586
    604
    Seat tube (c-t)
    400
    445
    490
    Seat tube angle
    73.5o
    73.0o
    72.5o
    Head tube length
    100
    115
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    Head tube angle
    69.5o
    70.0o
    70.5o
    BB drop
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    55
    55
    Chainstay
    463
    463
    463
    Wheelbase
    1099
    1106
    1114
    Standover height
    713
    749
    784ç
    Stack
    557
    574
    590
    Reach
    404
    410
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    Axle to crown
    447
    Fork rake
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    Post diameter 27.2
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    I found this picture from German site that made me do quick purchase.

    https://fstatic1.mtb-news.de/v3/22/2...1-original.jpg

    And link to his full album with multiple tire setups. https://fotos.mtb-news.de/s/83502?limit=40

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    Cool! They fit!

    It's a handsome frame w the thin seat stays and curved tubes. I like steel frames.
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    Just some photos of mine before I sold it.

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    And my bud who bought it rides the snot out of it.

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    I just bought one of these frames and was wondering what those of you who ride in the snow think of them? Is a 4” max tire enough for snow ridding or is wider better? I bought this frame and fork with the intentions of building up a snow bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamaha267 View Post
    I just bought one of these frames and was wondering what those of you who ride in the snow think of them? Is a 4” max tire enough for snow ridding or is wider better? I bought this frame and fork with the intentions of building up a snow bike....
    5" might be better or it might not depends on the snow. But you have a 4" bike so build it and ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamaha267 View Post
    I just bought one of these frames and was wondering what those of you who ride in the snow think of them? Is a 4” max tire enough for snow ridding or is wider better? I bought this frame and fork with the intentions of building up a snow bike....
    I think it will take wider than just 4" tires judging from those few pictures I found. Riding on the snow, wider is usually better but it depends a lot what kind of snow you have. If Dillinger 5 will fit in Commando, its good enough for me. Most probably I won't build fat wheels for it unless I find really cheap used wheels.

    I have 907 Whiteout too and most of the time I have been running Surly Buds on both ends. Lou was used rear only in worst soft snow conditions. Last purchase was Surly Knard 4.8 as rear tire and it was good too. Any of those won't fit Commando I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    I think it will take wider than just 4" tires judging from those few pictures I found. Riding on the snow, wider is usually better but it depends a lot what kind of snow you have. If Dillinger 5 will fit in Commando, its good enough for me. Most probably I won't build fat wheels for it unless I find really cheap used wheels.

    I have 907 Whiteout too and most of the time I have been running Surly Buds on both ends. Lou was used rear only in worst soft snow conditions. Last purchase was Surly Knard 4.8 as rear tire and it was good too. Any of those won't fit Commando I believe.
    I have 4" Specialized Ground Controls on mine with Mulfut 80mm rims and there is 12-13mm of clearance at the chainstays and fork. (Measures 103.5mm wide at knobs) Wider tires would fit depending how much clearance you are comfortable with.

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    Here are a few photos of mineFirst post - Ritchey Commando build-desertfatty.jpgFirst post - Ritchey Commando build-fattygoatcreek.jpg

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    Has anyone weighted the frameset?

    I have been considering to buy a frameset in order to build a fatbike to my gf (because, well, I have a fatbike and she only has an ss mtb w/27.5"x2,25" tyres) and I was wondering whether I could build a *relatively* light and *relatively* cheap bike w/47 mm trialtech rims and 4" tyres. Or at least the wheelset would be light, perhaps sub 5 kg w/o cassette and qr:s.

    Yes I know 47 mm rims are quite narrow but I have used 4.8" front tyre with 65 mm rim and IMO it steered and behaved better than same tyre on a 80 mm mm rim. And before that I used 4" tyres with both 65 mm and 82 mm rims and narrower rims felt always better, even at winter (I'm a beanpole though).
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    I think I saw somewhere pictures of frameset on a scale. It was a little bit under 2,5kg for frame and over 1,1kg for a fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiklu View Post
    I think I saw somewhere pictures of frameset on a scale. It was a little bit under 2,5kg for frame and over 1,1kg for a fork.
    Hmm, ≈3,6 kg for a steel frameset is not too bad, in par with Surly Pugsley. For comparison, from this site I found that a 2016 Mukluk aluminum frame (L) weighs in at 2285 g (and the carbon fork is probably >800 g).

    A <14 kg build should be, well, relatively easy.
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    I don't remember what was the size of weighted Commando frame but it is quite light when compared to Cube Nutrail frame weighting 2130g (size M/17").

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    Oh, and sorry for threadjack. Got carried away :-o

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyttyra View Post
    Hmm, ≈3,6 kg for a steel frameset is not too bad, in par with Surly Pugsley. For comparison, from this site I found that a 2016 Mukluk aluminum frame (L) weighs in at 2285 g (and the carbon fork is probably >800 g).

    A <14 kg build should be, well, relatively easy.
    Not sure how much the Commando frame/fork weighs but I'm sure it's lighter than a Pugsly as it uses heat treated tubing that is smaller in diameter. With heat treated tubing you can use thinner wall tubing and have the same dent resistance as untreated tubing typically used by Surly.

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    I didn't bother weight mine. Just installed first parts from recycling bin. More parts are coming in in a week I hope.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/gSeVk9DZIWBLmnN13

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    FYI:



    Pictured is a 4.4" Jumbo Jim tire on a Mulefut rim. Set up tubeless, its width is appr. 106 mm from knob to knob. 5 mm space on both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyttyra View Post
    FYI:



    Pictured is a 4.4" Jumbo Jim tire on a Mulefut rim. Set up tubeless, its width is appr. 106 mm from knob to knob. 5 mm space on both sides.
    great info! Was considering those tires. Are you on a 2x or 1x drivetrain, and is there any issue with chain rub?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpranal View Post
    great info! Was considering those tires. Are you on a 2x or 1x drivetrain, and is there any issue with chain rub?
    Unfortunately I can't say anything about that: the bike has not built yet (I was just testing the frame's clearance with the rear wheel of my Mukluk)

    Fortunately it seems that there will be a Murder of Commandos (the plural for Commando *must* be murder) quite soon, and questions about possible chain rub issues will surely be answered

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyttyra View Post
    Unfortunately I can't say anything about that: the bike has not built yet (I was just testing the frame's clearance with the rear wheel of my Mukluk)

    Fortunately it seems that there will be a Murder of Commandos (the plural for Commando *must* be murder) quite soon, and questions about possible chain rub issues will surely be answered
    I'm running a 34x22 double with Specialized 4" Ground Controls on 80mm rims and I have a good 3-4 mm of chain clearance on the lowest gear combo.

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    First proper test ride next.

    Full album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/raTn8FKwEHcyp2QN2
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
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    what size tires are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostFab View Post
    what size tires are those?
    WTB Ranger 3.0". Measured 72 mm wide on 29"/i35 mm rim, fresh tubeless install.

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    That bike looks great.
    I like turtles

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    I made a short film during the first ride. Excellent riding quality and comfortable smooth feel to the ground.

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    Anybody with a 1X setup here yet? Wondering how many spacers ill need on the bottom bracket...if any

    Also, are the calipers post mount?

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    After seeing jjokila's Commando with 29+ wheels I just coudn't resist that deal on Merlin. I just ordered a Medium before they run out! I'm probably going for a similar 29+ setup but this will be a slow build for me so this thread might be dead by the time I get to post a complete bike. FYI, this will be my second Ritchey. My P-29 hardtail is my daily trail bike, and I love it, but i've been really wanting to try out some plus tires.

    For those who have received frames from Merlin, are they set up with the rear brake line running along the chainstay? That's not how it is in the photos on Merlin's or Ritchey's sites, there it runs up the seatstay like on my P29. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the chainstay routing. I have a set of lower end (but perfectly fine) Shimano brakes laying around that wouldn't work on my P-29 because they don't have a banjo bolt to allow changing the direction of the line, just a straight fitting out the "top". I'd love not to have to buy a new rear brake since this is a budget build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by always_last View Post
    After seeing jjokila's Commando with 29+ wheels I just coudn't resist that deal on Merlin. I just ordered a Medium before they run out! I'm probably going for a similar 29+ setup but this will be a slow build for me so this thread might be dead by the time I get to post a complete bike. FYI, this will be my second Ritchey. My P-29 hardtail is my daily trail bike, and I love it, but i've been really wanting to try out some plus tires.

    For those who have received frames from Merlin, are they set up with the rear brake line running along the chainstay? That's not how it is in the photos on Merlin's or Ritchey's sites, there it runs up the seatstay like on my P29. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the chainstay routing. I have a set of lower end (but perfectly fine) Shimano brakes laying around that wouldn't work on my P-29 because they don't have a banjo bolt to allow changing the direction of the line, just a straight fitting out the "top". I'd love not to have to buy a new rear brake since this is a budget build.
    What headset do you plan on using? The Ritchey 41.8 drop in is sold out everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by always_last View Post
    are they set up with the rear brake line running along the chainstay?
    Yes, chainstay routing. Zoom in brake side photo of mine for details: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HesciuueOLfBztRo2

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    Yes, chainstay routing. Zoom in brake side photo of mine for details: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HesciuueOLfBztRo2
    I saw that on yours, it's what pushed me over the fence on buying the frame. Just knowing I had one less thing to buy made it that much more affordable, but then I got worried there were two versions of the frame.

    Hmm, I guess the headset is the next bit to tackle. I hadn't expected this was really an issue, I thought there would be a cane creek combo that would work like on my P-29. I have patience and time, I'm sure something will pop up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlabar1288 View Post
    What headset do you plan on using? The Ritchey 41.8 drop in is sold out everywhere
    Someone posted a link to a Token headset on Amazon that appears to fit. $25 and in stock. That should get the bike rolling. I'm not picky about headsets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by always_last View Post
    I saw that on yours, it's what pushed me over the fence on buying the frame. Just knowing I had one less thing to buy made it that much more affordable, but then I got worried there were two versions of the frame.

    Hmm, I guess the headset is the next bit to tackle. I hadn't expected this was really an issue, I thought there would be a cane creek combo that would work like on my P-29. I have patience and time, I'm sure something will pop up.
    Search IS42 / italian / Campagnolo style integrated headset. There is plenty of options, also expensive Cane Creeks. I went with cheapest Ritchey from here: https://www.bike24.de/1.php?content=...D%5B13500%5D=1

    Edit:
    Well, exactly this product: https://www.bike24.com/p26303.html

    Top cover was more flat than pictured.

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    jjokila, nice build!

    senor_mikey, what frame bag do you have (and size)? What size frame?

    I have a lot of extra parts sitting around (well, enough to build another 135/170 frame), so when I found out about the Commando deal at Merlin, I jumped on it. My plan is to use it as a bikepacking, gravel grinding, townie, grocery-getting utility vehicle. I couldn't tell if the frames that Merlin are selling had braze-ons, so I was pleasantly surprised to see that they do after looking at jjokila's pics.

    The one thing I did have to buy was the headset. I ended up getting this, but somebody let me know if I flubbed and got the wrong style:
    https://www.merlincycles.com/cane-cr...1-8-58441.html

    I keep running through my head how I'm going to build this with the stuff I have:
    • Jones Loop or straight(ish) bars
    • 26 x 4, 27.5 x 3, or 27.5 x 3.8 wheels

    Who am I kidding, I'll be tinkering around with it and probably be trying all the things

    Anybody bother to spray Weigle Frame Saver in theirs? I probably will since I have a 12+ year old can sitting around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil View Post
    jjokila, nice build!

    The one thing I did have to buy was the headset. I ended up getting this, but somebody let me know if I flubbed and got the wrong style:
    https://www.merlincycles.com/cane-cr...1-8-58441.html
    I am afraid outer diameter is 1 mm too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil View Post
    jjokila, nice build!

    senor_mikey, what frame bag do you have (and size)? What size frame?

    I keep running through my head how I'm going to build this with the stuff I have:
    • Jones Loop or straight(ish) bars
    • 26 x 4, 27.5 x 3, or 27.5 x 3.8 wheels

    Who am I kidding, I'll be tinkering around with it and probably be trying all the things

    Anybody bother to spray Weigle Frame Saver in theirs? I probably will since I have a 12+ year old can sitting around
    My frame size is a large. The framebag was custom made to that frame by Oveja Negra. I'd be willing to part with it for $90 including shipping in the US.

    I am thinking about trying 27.5 x 3.8 on mine too. Can't decide what rim to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    I am afraid outer diameter is 1 mm too small.
    Well, this is a huge bummer. Guess I'll be looking for a replacement that will work. Thanks for the tip.
    Quote Originally Posted by senor_mikey View Post
    My frame size is a large. The framebag was custom made to that frame by Oveja Negra. I'd be willing to part with it for $90 including shipping in the US.

    I am thinking about trying 27.5 x 3.8 on mine too. Can't decide what rim to use?

    mike
    Thanks for the offer mike, but I have a medium Revelate Ranger on another bike that I'll try on my (incoming) medium Commando. If that doesn't work, welp, I've always wanted to try making my own and this might be the opportunity.

    Crud. I just remembered that I rebuilt the 27.5" 50mm-wide Carbonspeed rims for a Fox boost fork, so I can't use that front wheel. Guess I'm using the 26x4 wheelset! BTW, the Carbonspeed carbon rims are almost 3 years old and have held up well. I just went to check their site, but it's down, so maybe the company hasn't held up as well as their rims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    First proper test ride next.

    Full album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/raTn8FKwEHcyp2QN2

    What wheeset ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    First proper test ride next.

    Full album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/raTn8FKwEHcyp2QN2
    Jjokila, could I ask what rear rack that is you have there please?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlabar1288 View Post
    What wheeset ?
    I built those my self using Race Face ARC 35 rims, SAPIM d-light spokes, alu polyax-nipels and Hope Fatsno hubs.

    Regarding Hope, my rear hub developed bearing damage after 6 hours of riding. Huge disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciano125 View Post
    Jjokila, could I ask what rear rack that is you have there please?

    Thanks
    It's Tubus FAT rack, but it is too wide and meant to be installed on 5" tire frames that have 190 or 197 mm wide rear. Commando has tiny brace ons for the rear rack, so it needs something else than stack of washers to space it out minimum of 10 mm both sides. Rack tubes are equally thick steel tubing as chain and setastays are, so it can't be just forced narrower. Stays will bend out and it makes installing and removing the wheel very difficult. Toppeak, Blackburn and Salsa has FAT specific racks too.
    Last edited by jjokila; 05-01-2018 at 12:43 PM. Reason: Bolt size

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    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil View Post
    Well, this is a huge bummer. Guess I'll be looking for a replacement that will work. Thanks for the tip.
    )
    Here's one that will fit. I actually ordered this after I got my frame and saw there was no headset. Ended up returning it because Ritchey CS actually sent me one free of charge, but everything test-fit just fine:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpranal View Post
    Here's one that will fit. I actually ordered this after I got my frame and saw there was no headset. Ended up returning it because Ritchey CS actually sent me one free of charge, but everything test-fit just fine:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Because of lpranal's response, I called Ritchey and spoke to customer service and explained how I bought the frame from Merlin Cycles, and that it doesn't have a headset. He said that they were supposed to have them, but for some reason or another, a lot of them are missing. They're also sending me one for free, and covering the shipping to Maryland as well.

    For those that bought the frameset from Merlin Cycles and didn't get a headset, I'd recommend calling them and asking if one is still available for you. They'll need your Merlin order number, name, and shipping address. Worst case they say no, best case you'll get a headset that should have been included AND that you know will work
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    First post - Ritchey Commando build-dsc08620_smal.jpg
    One more picture with full rack set up. Small extra spacers where needed both ends. Close up pictures here: rear and front.

    Hi res side view of the bike: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cMEHxO6YugsCNjGM2

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
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    One more picture with full rack set up. Small extra spacers where needed both ends. Close up pictures here: rear and front.

    Hi res side view of the bike: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cMEHxO6YugsCNjGM2

    Looks great! What’re those ‘ears’ near your grips ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlabar1288 View Post
    Looks great! What’re those ‘ears’ near your grips ?
    SQ Labs Innerbarends https://www.sq-lab.com/shop/en/Innerbarends/
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlabar1288 View Post
    Looks great! What’re those ‘ears’ near your grips ?
    Innerbarends. Hand position feels quite similar as road bike's hoods. First impression is they are good for road allowing another secure and very comfortable position for hands and doesn't disturb technical riding.

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    Really neat builds here. I missed out on the sale. Anyone with a large having second thoughts and wanting to pass it along?

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    I got mine a few days ago, then remembered soon enough that the (alternative for another bike) wheelset I was going to use with this frame had a through axle rear, so I had to buy new endcaps. $48* for frikkin' endcaps!!!!


    Frame Saver-ing by ricky d, on Flickr

    *-total cost with the cheapest shipping
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    What kind of hubs have 48 dollar end caps??
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    What kind of hubs have 48 dollar end caps??
    I linked to it in my post, but it's Industry Nine. $40 for the end caps, then $8 for the cheapest shipping to Maryland.
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    I have a spare brand new Ritchey headset if anyone wants it that didn’t come with their frameset

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    Short update: I did install those sturdy racks with high hopes of getting nice multi purpose bike. I packed light load in my top of the line Ortlieb front and rear panniers for one night trip and found out that the frame of the Commando is rather flexible. My load was maybe little over 15 kg, well packed, balanced and had low centre of gravity. Still needed extra care to prevent wobbling of the front end during high speed descents on the road. Gravel roads and easy trails where more manageable and the ride was soft and comfortable. Real rocky single track with panniers was bad idea, but slow crawling is doable. I will probably test bigger loads but clearly this bike frame is not meant for heavy duty touring.

    Pictures, courtesy of Toni Lund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    Short update: I did install those sturdy racks with high hopes of getting nice multi purpose bike. I packed light load in my top of the line Ortlieb front and rear panniers for one night trip and found out that the frame of the Commando is rather flexible. My load was maybe little over 15 kg, well packed, balanced and had low centre of gravity. Still needed extra care to prevent wobbling of the front end during high speed descents on the road. Gravel roads and easy trails where more manageable and the ride was soft and comfortable. Real rocky single track with panniers was bad idea, but slow crawling is doable. I will probably test bigger loads but clearly this bike frame is not meant for heavy duty touring.

    Pictures, courtesy of Toni Lund.
    Hmmm... well maybe the ride wasn't that stable at speed because you raised the bottom bracket height by using 29+ wheels instead of the 26 Fat wheels it was designed for? Maybe with the front panniers and larger diameter wheels contributed to the wobble.

    The tubing diameters seem fairly small, and they are butted and heat treated steel. But most people prefer that.
    I've ridden mine with bikepacking bags on 3-4 trips and round it to track well with no front end wobble at all. I'm on 26 x 4" tires.

    I am thinking about getting some 27.5 fat wheels built for mine to use with 3.8" tires which won't raise the BB nearly as much. Hopefully that won't cause the same issue.

    mike

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    I finally finished building mine up yesterday and took it for a 20 mile ride on the C&O Towpath.


    Commando on the C&amp;O by ricky d, on Flickr

    Here's a profile shot from this morning, but I changed to less gnarly tires before I went on my ride later on:

    Ritchey Commando Fat Bike by ricky d, on Flickr

    I left the steerer tube, brake cables, and shifter cable long for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil View Post
    I finally finished building mine up yesterday and took it for a 20 mile ride on the C&O Towpath.
    Looks very nice. And Bud seems to fit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    Looks very nice. And Bud seems to fit!
    Yup! Here's a pic of the Surly Bud mounted onto Nextie 65mm rims:


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    I recently built one of these up, been great fun, took it over Dartmoor last week camping. Received some Fatback hubs this morning for some 26" wheels, just to find some (cheap) wide rims and tyres

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    BLIZZERK 70 | Alexrims

    If you plan on going tubeless, don't go as cheap as possible. Lots of cheaper fat rims don't do tubeless well. The Alex rims I posted supposedly work ok. I haven't tried em yet.
    Surly My Other Brother Darryls work great but they're 150 bucks apiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarBai View Post
    I recently built one of these up, been great fun, took it over Dartmoor last week camping. Received some Fatback hubs this morning for some 26" wheels, just to find some (cheap) wide rims and tyres
    Schwalbe Big One tires? Nice looking bike this one too. How big front chain ring? Looks oval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjokila View Post
    Schwalbe Big One tires? Nice looking bike this one too. How big front chain ring? Looks oval.
    Thanks, yep, Big One tyres for now, wanted something quick on the road, front is an oval AbsoluteBlack 36t, 11-50 on the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarBai View Post
    Thanks, yep, Big One tyres for now, wanted something quick on the road, front is an oval AbsoluteBlack 36t, 11-50 on the back.
    Can you compare Big Ones and proper road bike racing tires, please? Or is the rolling resistance closer to average mountain bike tire.

    My 3" WTB Rangers feel lightning fast after rolling out of forest paths onto roads, but after riding my road bike few hours and returning to 3" feels like walking in a bog.

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    I normally ride road, usually on 28mm, the Big Ones I guess are a good compromise, theyre not lightening fast but I can quite happily roll along at around 15-17mph on the flat. Sat behind two roadies at 21mph for the 4 miles back from the train station the other day, with the luggage on. Thats at about 45psi.

    Off road, they are limited, great cushioning but the very light tread isn't going to see you through anything too technical confidently. I worry about the side wall robustness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarBai View Post
    I normally ride road, usually on 28mm, the Big Ones I guess are a good compromise, theyre not lightening fast but I can quite happily roll along at around 15-17mph on the flat. Sat behind two roadies at 21mph for the 4 miles back from the train station the other day, with the luggage on. Thats at about 45psi.
    Sounds pretty good speed. Thanks.

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    I have a spare brand new Ritchey headset if anyone wants it that didn’t come with their frameset
    Hi,

    I never received one with my order, do you still have it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil View Post
    Here's a profile shot from this morning, but I changed to less gnarly tires before I went on my ride later on:
    I'm trying different bars (Moonmen riser), cranks (Middleburn fat), and seatpost (Moots ti). I'll see if I like this setup better after some riding:


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    Built this to my girlfriend. The bike still needs some tweaking, but it rides well and the owner is quite happy with it

    Last edited by kyttyra; 2 Days Ago at 02:10 AM.

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    Very nice.
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    These Commandos built up looking awesome for you all. Almost pulled trigger on frameset but instead found a used frameset that I couldn't pass up (Fatboy and not a specialized fan). Now seeing tire size you got in almost wish I would have went with the Ritchey.
    XC, Road, XXC, Endurance, Mtn, All-Mtn, Cross, Gravel, just go have fun on 2 wheels!

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    ^^& ^thanks for compliments, although it seems that Commandos build up looking awesome by default

    Notes from yesterday's Midsummer ride: it seems that a low-fat (47 mm Trialtech rims and 4" Jumbo Jims) Commando flies on asphalt and gravel when compared to my Mukluk that has Bud/4.4" JJ on 80 mm rims. On wet singletrack it was other way around, but then again, I'm much more experienced rider than my GF.

    Of course I test-rode the Commando too and it felt positively fast & nimble - probably due to the fact that its rotating masses are appr. 1,2 kg less than my Mukluk's. The greatest downside was that I could not make proper wheelies with the Commando

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    Dirt Drop Command :)

    Here's Mine.

    I went for 29er plus with dirt drops.

    Fast and FUN !
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